The trouble football people have with contracts

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You have to wonder about football people sometimes when they appear to not know the difference between a contract and something which is not a contract.  A contract is a signed document committing one or more parties to do something.  For example, Lassad Noiuoiu and Celtic signed a contract committing the player to perform the duties of a footballer and committing Celtic to provide pay and conditions.

Employers can also contractually agree to pay employees money for fulfilling their job, over and above their Contract of Employment, by simply writing the terms down, signing the document and handing it over to the employee.  For a football player, this type of additional contract would need to be registered with the relevant Football Association and tax would be due on it, or else the Karma Police will come round and leave you in tears.

Speaking about his attempts to sign Noiuoiu, Levante’s president said, “During 30 hours of negotiations we closed the transfer with faxes and documents between the two parties”.

“Two parties”, “faxes and documents”?  Let’s be specific, the two parties would need to be Levante and Lassad Noiuoiu and the documents would need to be a Contract of Employment, otherwise it appears that Levante have been the victim of an agent trying to make a deal happen when he was not in control of events.

It will be a bitter pill to swallow for Levante, who appear to have acted with good faith throughout, but as Celtic fans have long known, a new signing is not a new signing until he is running around a football field.

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  1. pauloantony

     

    13:55 on

     

    6 September, 2012

     

    Unless Nouioui actually signed to dotted line with his own signature then levante don’t have a leg to stand on .

     

    I remember judas Johnston holding a Scarf aloft claiming to have resigned for the only club he had ever loved ….

     

    But signed his soul to Satan

     

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    apparently because they could sort out some income tax problems he had comming back into the country ………

  2. Speaking of calling Saul…

     

     

    Has anyone on the blog watched the mid-season finale in season 5 of BB yet??

     

    If so…WOW! What an absolutely amazing episode!!

     

     

    If not…hurry up!

     

     

    HH

  3. Hee hee

     

     

    To the lurking hun who obviously has seen my email on the Oscar Quiz Night post…..

     

     

    You missed out the word unrepentant in your diatribe. Now away back to your romper suit and mummy :-)

  4. SoG,

     

     

    Me and the Mrs caught it the other night.

     

    Fantastic, and Old Walt knows what he wants alright :-)

     

     

    Love the whole programme, and it might leave a gap in the TV schedule for me. A 24 re-run might be on the cards unless I can come up with a new one.

     

     

    Mucker

  5. Son of Gabriel – You just knew it was coming. Walter White was never going to have a happy ending.

     

     

    Noticed the ricin cigarette is still around too. (thumbsup)

  6. ‘Mid-season finale’

     

    Dontcha hate them?

     

    Incredible episode to go with an incredible series so far.

     

     

    Paul67

     

    When will the ‘download’ option be available for the mag? It’s an invaluable tool to read on the phone.

  7. Son of Gabriel @ 14:41.

     

     

    I’m watching series 2 episode 12 as we type, so don’t spoil it for me pleeeeeeease.

     

     

    Gonny naw!

  8. reading yesterday’s blog about the plethora of injuries picked up by our players at such an early stage of the season, most of these occurred in the European games and not in the SPL as some CQNrs have stated.

     

    Thomas Rogne, a fine young player, was injured in Finland while Kayal and Joe Ledley sustained heavy knocks in Sweden. Charlie Mulgrew was downed after the game against the Swedes at Celtic Park. No doubt Celtic put in a huge shift in the away game against the Swedes to get the club into the group stages of the Champions Lge and have clocked up about a dozen games including pre season fixtures, tough going on players who are just starting the season.

  9. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside

     

     

    How Celtic shareholders will respond to what emerges from the FTT etc might be the lever to get a cultural change at the SFA.

     

     

    Celtic PLC will have decided its policy, but the upcoming AGM Oct/Nov? whilst too late to get a resolution on the official agenda, will no doubt see the issue being aired. A lot will depend on the timing of the FTT. If it pronounces beforehand Celtic will be in a position to speak (if they choose) and in speaking will reveal their policy and reasons for it.

     

     

    If the AGM is before the FTT I imagine Celtic will stick to the existing policy and say nothing.

     

     

     

    Either way the subject is likely to be raised at the AGM, if no FTT decsion then not in a way that makes any commtiitment to a particular course of action. If the FTT speaks then Celtic too will be free to speak (or not) but FTT pronouncement or not it will present an opportunity for shareholders feelings to be expressed from the floor.

     

     

    The SFA should not imagine that they are in control and can move on with no consequences. The true scale of this scandal has still to dawn on some people and kidding on its no big deal that can be easily hurdled would be as big a misjudgement as the SPL1 or SFL1 parachute ideas.

  10. sftb , can you email me please ?

     

     

     

    HT , provisional team for The Kano Foundation at the quiz please.

     

     

    TTT , the good can , the rest moan

     

     

    Sanna

  11. American tv tends to have programmes end with the high moral tone being taken…..wee bits of brainwashing…..but never mind.

     

    Breaking Bad is awesome but I’m waiting for Season 4 and now,accidentally, I know more about Season 5.

     

    Cruelty.

     

    Anyone want to know the ENTIRE plot for ‘A Song of Ice and Fire?’

     

    Who shot JR? Oh yeah, everyone knows that. It was Sue Ellen,or was it Bobby.? Did I dream the last 25 years? I’ll never know.

  12. I have episode 8 of Breaking Bad to watch tonight as well.

     

     

    Great series but for me the Wire rules supreme! Series 1 to 4 is the best television I have ever seen!

  13. "THERE IS ONLY ONE TEAM IN GLASGOW" aka "@67MOULDY67" on

    OSCAR KNOX APPEAL 

     

     

     

     

    Hello , just to let you know that I am planning to take part in a 50 mile cycle from Glasgow to Edinburgh, 09/09/2012

     

     

    With just three days to  go, I will continue to train very hard in order to be able to take part in this cycle where I would hope to be able raise some funds for “Wee Oscar Knox” who is 3 year old kid and is not keeping very well just now.

     

     

    You can read Oscar’s story on web link below….

     

     

    http://www.justgiving.com/Team-Oscar-Knox-Appeal-Cycle-09092012-Paul-Muldoon

     

     

    all donations are welcome and appreciated 

     

     

    please pass on oscars story

  14. HT , I’ll spell this out since it obviously went over your head last time . When I say a team , i mean a team by your definition , ie 4/5 members. If i was talking about just myself , then i would have said so.

     

     

    Anyway , what’s wrong with playing with yourself ?

     

     

    Sanna

  15. One for Voguepunter…

     

     

    FANS of Clyde FC could soon be watching the team play in their spiritual home of Rutherglen for the first time since 1986.

     

     

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    By STEF LACH

     

    The nomadic club, known as The Bully Wee, played at Rutherglen’s Shawfield Stadium from 1898 through to 1986 before moving to Broadwood Stadium in Cumbernauld – with short spells at Hampden and Hamilton sandwiched in between.

     

     

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    Sport

     

     

    The Scottish Football League Third Division outfit have made it known they want to leave North Lanarkshire and move back to their heartland.

     

     

    However, Clyde are now juggling two possible deals with junior clubs. A match-up with Rutherglen Glencairn would see Clyde renovate the club’s Clyde Gateway Stadium and move “home” – something Clyde’s loyal fans have been desperate for ever since they were exiled to Cumbernauld in 1994.

     

     

    But Clyde have also been in year-long talks with East Kilbride Thistle with a similar deal to upgrade their Showpark to SFL standards by building a 4G artificial pitch, which would serve the community and provide an income away from match days.

     

     

    In a statement, Clyde FC said talks were continuing with Thistle as well as Glencairn: “Clyde is continuing its search to establish a future location in which it can be in charge of its own destiny for the first time in over 70 years.”

     

     

    Clyde never captured the imagination of residents of Cumbernauld and still draw the majority of their support from the South Side of Glasgow.

     

     

    Eric Steel, 71, has been watching the team for 64 seasons and is a member of the Castlemilk branch of Bully Wee supporters. He said: “Moving to Rutherglen would see us back where we belong.

     

     

    “It would be a great thing for both clubs and would hopefully see some of the old fans come back to watch Clyde who maybe haven’t been around since we moved to Cumbernauld.

     

     

    “East Kilbride would be better than Cumbernauld, but Rutherglen is where everyone wants Clyde to be based.”

     

     

    The Evening Times’ junior football expert Jim O’Donnell believes Glencairn are in pole position to lure Clyde to their ground. Jim said: “The groundsharing scheme has already been discussed in depth by Glencairn officials and it’s believed another meeting is scheduled for mid-September to facilitate a vote on the issue. I’m led to believe the issue will receive unanimous backing from members.

     

     

    “All things considered, it’s hard not to believe Glencairn have stolen a march on Thistle given Clyde chairman John Alexander and leading director John Taylor have promised to be at the meeting with the aim of smoothing the way by answering any contentious questions.”

  16. greenjedi wrote

     

    14:15 on

     

    6 September, 2012

     

    pauloantony

     

    13:55 on

     

    6 September, 2012

     

    Unless Nouioui actually signed to dotted line with his own signature then levante don’t have a leg to stand on .

     

    I remember judas Johnston holding a Scarf aloft claiming to have resigned for the only club he had ever loved ….

     

    But signed his soul to Satan

     

     

    …………..

     

     

    Judas, did sign a contract with Celtic, and UEFA confirmed that he had in a fax to Celtic Park (well the Celtic Pools office actually as there wasn’t a fax in the stadium itself). I can say this is 100% fact as I was there when the fax came in and read it (along with several others) before it was taken across the road. The clubthen decided to tell Judas to go forth and multiple, even though they could have held him to the contract and have frozen him out of football if they so wished.

     

     

    BTW, the fax was sent on Saturday 24th June 1989, a few hours before the Under 16 World Cup Final at Hampden!

     

     

    Yeah Greenjedi that was around the time that those mysterious EBT’s appeared

     

    and under the table with back handers on other words shady dealings going down

     

    and Moombeams says everything was above aboard aye who are you trying to

     

    fool, yourself although asking one to admit to ones guilt in this case is like asking

     

    turkeys to vote for thanks giving and christmas day

  17. saltires en sevilla

     

     

    It is another “we’ll see ” case but big clubs need wee clubs to play against and the number of big clubs who depend on sugar daddy money are falling along with the number of sugar daddies.

     

     

    Malaga and Rangers being cases in point.

     

     

    The sugar daddy model is already a failed one and less and less of them want to put their money into the pockets of young men who can trap a ball, so I think it will have some downward pressure effect.

     

     

    As far as we are concerned it does not help to be the neighbour of a league that gets huge sums of TV money and if we are to compete up to say CL qrt and semi level we along with other European clubs with that ambition.need to find a way to get at those levels of TV dosh.

     

     

    It was encouraging to read UEFA are looking at changing the “border” rule because some leagues are now too small to be competitive but change in that direction is coming and Celtic will be invited when it happens.

     

     

    Based on population how does this league grab ya.

     

     

    Netherlands 16.6m

     

    Belgium 10.8m

     

    Sweden 9.3m

     

    Denmark 5.5m

     

    Scotland 5.2m

     

    Norway 4.8m

     

     

    A lotta customers with the Norwegians as fitbaw daft as us.

     

    so pick yer clubs :)

  18. Why does this evoke some very bitter memories of Le Petite Merde.

     

     

    He is the only footballer that I would have laughed had someone assaulted him .

     

     

    Judas.

     

    Judas .

     

    Judas.

     

    A67

  19. Gents, looking for a little help here.

     

     

    I have a “poker night” in Larkhall area on saturday night and was hoping that someone on here may be able to direct me to a pub where we can catch a few beers without being subject to any acts of hunnery!

     

     

    I dont think there will be a “Celtic Friendly” bar but is there anywhere a little less hunnish that could be recommended?

     

     

    Hail Hail

     

    Gogo

  20. ASonOfDan

     

     

    I know a few of the Clyde fans ,they used to leave from vogue for games.

     

    All good guys ,I would be glad if they moved back to Rutherglen……….

     

    but not if they are playing in the same league as the stinking huns.

  21. ASonOfDan – 15:21 on 6 September, 2012

     

     

    All we Ruglen folks ask is that they wait until the forces of evil have moved beyond the 4th teir of Scottish football.

     

     

    S

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