The report on Rangers on tonight’s Channel 4 News by Alex Thomson put meat on the bones of what has been going on at Rangers over the last decade or more. Former chief executive, Martin Bain, was revealed to have written to then-chairman, John McClelland, in late 2003 asking that his pay rise is paid through the club’s Employee Benefit Trust, which is not subject to Income Tax or National Insurance.
Bain goes on to make a sinister note to McClelland, “at the end of the meeting I gave her back the letter addressed to me from you that stated my contractual increase for her to shred.”
Shredding documents? Oh dear.
Bain declined to answer questions from Channel 4 but yesterday offered to drop his contractual claim against the club, suggesting his issue was with Rangers new owner, Craig Whyte. It was the most self-serving drivel I have read in a while.
If this was how he behaved as Rangers chief executive Whyte was right to suspend him last year. How Bain had the front to pursue Rangers for over £1m knowing the consequences of his letters to John McClelland beggars belief.
I wonder how HMRC view instructions to shred documents that could inform a view on a tax claim? These documents prove Rangers directors knew how EBTs worked, understood what they were doing and the consequences.
Paul Baxendale-Walker walked straight out of a Carry On movie to give a great cameo performance. In a couple of years some poor casting director is going to have to try to find actors to play Baxendale-Walker, Whyte, Bain, Paul Murray and Zsa Zsa himself. Could any actors do justice to these bizarre individuals?
I’d be interested in your suggestions. Zsa Zsa for Sir David is a given.
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I can see Alan Carr in the Baxendale-Walker role.
Naw, its got David Walliams name all over it, (Or a young Dick Emery)
Paul67
If we can’t get Zsa Zsa I think plan b is Dame Barbara from Little Britain.
Perhaps we could have scene with the Feds breaking down the doors with axes accompanied with the sound of overworked shredders.
As is said in these parts:
Chwarae teg i ti Philvis.
Am defo off to my gwely now.
Peace…
Martin Bain – Don Cheadle
Baxendale Walker – Luis Guzman
God Bless Stan Petrov
Styllian Petrov was out of the top drawer when he played for us. I always felt that you could tell the class of our players when they played against the top European teams. In my book there were two who could match their skills against them at any time and didn’t feel out of place- they were the great Henrik and Styllian.There were some times when Martin allowed Lubo to strut his stuff and who can ever forget when he nut-megged Del Piero in the match against Juventus. But Styllian we will not forget you. You are in our hearts and in our prayers. God Bless You!
Bankiebhoy1 at 23.20,
beer over laptop moment,cheers
Timothy Spall as Ally McCoist
!!!! CLASSIC !!!! :))))))
Rico
Terrymac
If you are still abt. Can you find out if that “Irish” folk singer in Highland Paddys has learned Rockall yet? Another one he didnt know and never heard of.
gorbalstam – That’s very kind of you, but would it be expecting too much for me to hope that maybe, just maybe, you might re-evaluate your belief that somehow I have “no human compassion” just because you and I apparently don’t entirely share the same political opinions?
I know it may sound crazy, but all the Tories I know share the same basic concerns and human compassion of you Lefties. We all want to live in a prosperous, peaceful society. We all want our fellow citizens to be well-educated, well-off, and just plain well. Where we differ is in our analysis of how we get there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8 (thumbsup)
Father Ted as Hugh Adam.
Al Capone was eventually brought to justice for tax evasion.
Wonder what will come out in the wash when all of this lot get to court?
dirtymac \o/ – My thinking exactly. CW owns the club and the security on much of the assets has beeb transferred out. He can’t be forced to sell to anyone if he doesn’t want to – All that can happen is a CVA (which is looking as unlikely as snow on the surface of Mercury), or a liquidation initiated by him or a winding up order from the court as requested most likely by HMRC. Then there would be a fire sale of whatever assets CW hadn’t transferred to other entities separate from the RFCiA companies to return some funds to the creditors. Am I right? At this point there is nothing to sell that constitutes a football club, so they are gone. Anyone then wanting to start up another club (RFC2012 for example) starts from absolute scratch.
Anyone else seen the Dortmund game. German football is very good.
In other news it seems we’ve been celebrating every 5 November since 1605 the plot to assault the Houses of Parliament.
Don’t let them grind ye down Neil
Ian Durrant is……… ‘Clyde’ (oot the Anthill mob)
Youtube – Comic Strip Presents: The Strike and you have a sneak peak at the blueprint for the movie. :)))
Rico
the quote about shredding documents means nothing really, there’s no context and there’s no proof that he was suggesting covering anything up.
and you cant believe anything that comes out of the mouth of the tax advisor-cum-porn-monger
but there’s plenty else that suggests wilful non-payment of tax and a general culture of being above the rules. nothing there that would stand up in a criminal case but they do look bang to rights in the ftt.
they need someone to pick up the pieces, and offer real leadership to steer them out of this mess, looks like only vultures left to pick off the carcass now
Gorbalstam
Fantastic game.
Enjoyed all our european trips to Germany.
goldstar
Any chance of a link to Browns press meet?
gorbalstam on 30 March, 2012 at 23:34 said:
Yes. Great game! :)
Love Dortmund, but worked for a short bit with a German guy who was a Stuttgart fan, so a wee bit of a liking for them too – but not as much. :)))
Rico
philvisreturns on 30 March, 2012 at 23:28 said:
Sorry philvis. I could be completely misguided buty your cyber persona does not portray a particulary compassinite person. Capital before social says it all for me. GBNL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCnc9Ql_o5U
philvisreturns on 30 March, 2012 at 23:28 said:
gorbalstam – That’s very kind of you, but would it be expecting too much for me to hope that maybe, just maybe, you might re-evaluate your belief that somehow I have “no human compassion” just because you and I apparently don’t entirely share the same political opinions?
I know it may sound crazy, but all the Tories I know share the same basic concerns and human compassion of you Lefties. We all want to live in a prosperous, peaceful society. We all want our fellow citizens to be well-educated, well-off, and just plain well. Where we differ is in our analysis of how we get there.
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Rarely do I scroll past your posts, I find them educational, enlightening and frustrating in equal measure :-)
For the last couple of years whenever CQN has delved into the ubiquitous world of religion and faith I’ve found myself sitting back, itching and praying to type, but deep down hoping that either you or Celtic_First come to the rescue and produce a piece that commands respect whilst at the same time displaying a genuine knowledge of our faith and the virtues of compassion for others. often the two of you have been my personal saviour and I’m genuinely grateful for that.
I know it’s late but usually you’re on when I and the rest of the world are keeping the economy turning over :-). However, as gorbalstam suggests I have great difficulty understanding how you can equate the Conservative Party, and a generation of policies, with compassion, equality and real understanding whilst clearly being a man deep personal faith.
Apologies if this has been posted before….. :-)
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Saw Kenny Clark once do an after dinner speech, it was dreadful,in contrast to his refereeing career which was hilarious
Celtic – Winners
The amount of Silver leaving the southside will be massive.
Obviously it would have been much better to be able to celebrate those trophies at the time but the retrospective actions will be very sweet when they happen. I must admit I will be probably be more excited about other Scottish teams earning the Silverware because the chance to celebrate it has gone and those teams have waited decades for any success usually.
The main thing is Rangers FC are humiliated and have every bit of Silver stripped from them, hopefully, from not long after Murray joined them. There are trails all ready for the exploring by the Big Journalists out there. ;)
jude2005- Saw it on CelticTV, sorry I don’t have a link, but honestly, it was a complete waste of everybody’s time- which was why it was so good ;-)
Somebody else may be capable of posting a link.
HH
Brilliant Paul
The usual suspects
http://i.imgur.com/tc0Go.jpg
Go Alex – follow the money
http://i.imgur.com/pprgr.jpg
Dortmund Stuggart
Fantastic game.
We had a great time and were looked after well
when we played in both cities.
Respect to them both.
Spearman on 30 March, 2012 at 23:45 said:
:)))))))))
On yerself Neil!
Rico
All my very best wishes to Stan and his family.Heatbreaking news,may they find the strength to get through this difficult time and get to share many years together.
All the best Stan.
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Sir Minty – Kathy Burke
Vague Shyte – Jean Claude Van Damme
William Shatner – William Shatner
The Myth – George Burns
Martin Bain – Naomi Campbell
Graham Spiers – Shirley Temple
Jabba – Mandy Dingle
Hugh ‘Shug’ Keevins – Pee Wee Herman
Duff & Phelps – Jim Carrey & Jeff Daniels
Ian ‘Durranty’ Durrant – The Predator
Vile Lafferty – Hen Broon
Mo Ross? – Javier Bardem
Picture the following scene, if you will.
Members of Cairde na hEireann construct packages, bombs, and send them to the manager of Rangers, a top QC and a Member of the Scottish Parliament. Never mind that they were never sent from the offices of the Cairde na hEireann organisation; the people who sent them were members of that organisation, and thereby the line is drawn.
The day on which that was established as fact, the doors of Cairde na hEireann would have been launched in during a full police raid. The offices would have been shut permanently, every member would have been arrested, those responsible would have been prosecuted under the Terrorism Act, people who might have been peripherally involved would have been charged with conspiracy and all the principles would have done so much time that when they left prison they would have been picked up from the jail in hover taxis.
No-one would have been charged with “conspiracy to assault.” This would have been called an act of terrorism and the courts would have acted accordingly. The papers would have run, for day, weeks, all the way through the trial, with stories about how Irish extremists had taken their cause to the cities of Scotland, and about how new legislation was needed to curb their activities, monitor their supporters and, oh, I don’t know, maybe arrest everyone who wore a Celtic strip on a day other than a match day …. You know what I mean.
But Cairde na hEireann were not the builders of bombs but the targets. The other targets were not Ally McCoist, Donald Findlay and David McLetchie. And I cannot help thinking that because of who those targets were this has not been treated as it should have been.
They call us paranoid. They call us conspiracy theorists. Well this time the theory is that there WAS no serious conspiracy. Targeting high profile Scot’s of an Irish-Catholic background with bombs is now a lesser offence than getting in a bar fight and hitting someone with a bottle.
There is something wrong in Scotland. That this country is even being asked to consider independence is frightening. This is a nation wholly incapable of coming to terms with the darkness, utterly unable to accept what it is. This country is sick in the head. Its judiciary, its legal system, its football authorities, its entire culture and ethos.
Today is another black day for this nation. It is a blacker day for Neil Lennon. I don’t know how this guy gets up in the morning, far less pulls on his training kit and goes out to do his job.
If I were him I would be torn between wanting to chuck it and wanting to stick it to the people who hate me. It is not a nice way to live, or to expect any other man to live.
This was an act of domestic terrorism, targeting the Irish, targeting high profile Irish Catholics, targeting Celtic Football Club. That “background reports” are being sought, that these people might be painted in some kind of positive light, that they were not subjected to the full extent, is horrendous and disgusting.
In the meantime, Charlie Nicholas joins the chorus of hate against our manager. I have never liked that man, have never believed he was anything other than a self-promoting numpty, but now he has morphed into becoming a shrill voice in a lynch mob. That will be remembered long after it was forgotten that he was a one-time playboy footballer who gave us one good season.
I’m changing my name again, to reflect current events.
Evening all. Have been busy with family & friends drama all week so I’ve kinda missed the main stories.
What happened with CH4 tonight? (was it worth the wait and can i view it?)
Thanks in advance,
AoW
William Shatner – William Shatner
Hugh ‘Shug’ Keevins – Pee Wee Herman
:)))))))) Brilliant!!!
in theory what philvis says is perfectly viable.
the problem is the majority of tories are a bunch of winks.
gorbalstam – Thank you for your reply, but I don’t think I’ve ever indicated that I believe capital is more important than society. I have written along the lines of indicating that capitalism is important so we can have a wealthy society. Wealth is important because, without it, we’d be like the Good Samaritan but without the means to do anything to help others. Good intentions alone won’t feed or clothe or educate anybody, you need to generate surplus wealth for that to be possible. We humans know of only one way to create wealth and enrich generation after generation, and that is through the free market. (thumbsup)
hamiltontim – You do me far too much credit.
Re: The Conservative Party. I’ve tended to support them as the least worst option of all our major parties, for the reasons I mention above. We need secure property rights and wealth creation in order to do good.
I’m absolutely astounded of forehead at the direction my MP, David Cameron, has taken since becoming Prime Minister. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for as long as I could, but the man is a disaster on every level. He’s worse than Ted Heath, and that’s saying something.
All the major parties in this country behave like con-men operating a Boiler Room scam on the UK public. I don’t intend to vote for any of them till I see some semblance of honesty return to our politics, if that ever happens. (thumbsup)