Playing away domestically after a Champions League away game is statistically the time you are most likely to drop points, so Manchester City’s defeat at Tottenham was unsurprising. The manner of Barcelona’s defeat at Celta de Vigo, 4-3 after being 3-0 down at halftime, was distinctly out of character, but showed signs of their exertions in Germany on Wednesday.
Borussia Monchengladback’s 4-0 defeat at Schalke, who were bottom of the Bundesliga having lost all previous five games, was the shock of German football this week. Gladback have one game before coming to Celtic Park, home to Hamburg, who took over Schalke’s mantle at the bottom of the table, with one point from six games this season.
Borussia are the only team from Celtic’s Champions League group who will be rattled by their weekend reversal; Barcelona and Manchester City will take the defeat in their stride. It’s unlikely they will drop points to Hamburg on 15th October. Their defeat to Barcelona was the first competitive game at home they’ve failed to win since January, while it’s been straight away defeats this season for Hamburg, but as we know, playing bottom of the league is a no-win scenario for a Champions League team.
There will be a hangover from that 4-0 defeat, one which will be allowed to fester for a fortnight. Think what you will of Celtic, but the prospect of travelling to Glasgow in two weeks will not be relished in North Rhine-Westphalia.
Before heading off for the Great Scottish Run yesterday I read through the donations to the Celtic Foundation. There’s nothing more effective than putting the wind at your back than knowing a lot of people put whatever they could afford into supporting the Foundation’s cause.
It was a brilliant day. The green competitors’ t-shirts with the Foundation’s Health, Equality, Learning and Poverty written across the back were storming through the streets of Glasgow in force. Well done to all.
Thanks to everyone who supported all of us. The MyDonation’s page hasn’t closed, yet, but this will be the last call, honestly!
Thanks also the lady who while out pushing a go-chair with her child in town yesterday, took off my shoe and bent back my toe. Over and above the call of duty – but it was that kind of day.
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My Sons have Sons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d30rpdvtiA&index=14&list=PL06A43667231E4AA2
Mags
It prob will, they had pics of the GB display on stage when they were in concert, the world is finding out about the Celtic support.
HH
Fan a tic
So, I’ll take that as a maybe. :)
Sleep well Timland
HH and KTF
I never died says he.
Joe Hill
If you don’t know him, a wee google will do you good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8Kxq9uFDes
An another bit of Paul Robeson, Kevin Barry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3Q1SPPimAE
A man with a social awareness.
Pink Floyd goes green & white
https://twitter.com/rogerwaters/status/782986034912952320
Sorry if already posted. Fantastic piece
Hail Hail
Mike
Paul Robeson.
My Father was a Slave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTFYnXJSCm8
You may have guessed, Paul Robeson is a bit of a hero to me.
He stood tall.
Maggie McGill
“If OBFA is repealed what examples of strict liability are there that arent covered under existing laws?
Im confused about what kind of crimes OBFA “covered” that we are talking about?
or are you saying that precisely because of strict liability it wont be repealed?”
Maggie, I think the strict liability ruling is being used as a threat. The message is that the Police and the creators of this legislation want to either bring football under their rule or persuade the football authorities to do their dirty work voluntarily. A club threatened with strict liability laws being proposed might be wiling to settle for supporting the existing OBaF legislation or , at least, reduce the level of their opposition if they know that what lies around the corner is gonna be worse still.
However UEFA are not fond of politicians interfering with football regulations so they would be opposed to Holyrood led sanctions on section or ground closure, or docking of points for misdemeanours. But SNP Government might like to see the SFA or SPFL adopt these proposed measures and UEFA don’t mind national associations taking draconian measures (however bigoted or biased the national association may be).
I suspect that we might win the battle to repeal the OBaF Act but the signs are that the SNP government is not going to back off this defeat quietly and is going to bring forward strict liability measures or persuade the SFA/SPFL to adopt Strict Liability as the price to be paid.
I know that I will be considered to have a bias in these views but I think such determination to not lose face or power is one of the classic signs of an insecure view of ourselves. Not being able to admit mistakes is one of the Scottish Cringe signs, because mistakes are the kind of thing that Westminster, and Westminster only, does.
Still, one fight at a time- Let’s win the OBaF Act repeal first because it is not yet a done deal.
Robeson was an all american athlete at Rutgers who later played in the NFL while earning a law degree at Columbia. He had a near world class bass voice and was a hero to the American left. Still is. Robeson was the man.
Yeah,finally got logged back in after months being refused access and I am not even a frequent poster.
MIKE IN TORONTO on 3RD OCTOBER 2016 9:53 PM
You`re obviously a fair man who is uncomfortable with the kind of gossip that often surrounds the departure of a personality .Particularly one who seemed as likeable as Ronny.
I`m afraid sentiment was a secondary consideration for me , but let`s not rake over the coals except that lessons must be learned .
You may well be right about Broony , however , as captain , he has the right to have an opinion and express it.
It would probably have been kinder not to.
Nevertheless , Broony spoke for me when he describes his frustration about the last two seasons.
I couldn`t help thinking of the old cliche.
Nice guys come last.
SFTB
So basically with or without OBFA everything associated with Celtic is guilty until proven innocent, if anyone in the police, media, govt, anything says so. Nice.
OF R Us eh?
Winnibg Captains 5.29
Where do you start?
Am wi hot smoked- why post?
Further than that
Why not ask our club
why willie vaas can get accreditation for our ground yet CQN cannae get their guy in??
Where do you start?
– a post not based iin truth
-a post basting turd to a shat out
identity
An identuty shat out then
An identity that going by your repuking if is contiuung to be sphincterless.and spewing irts crap
And going by statements of late will forever be vomiting its kack
IT CHEATED THEN
ITS CHEATING NOW
AND IT WILL CHEAT FOREVER
ITS THEIR WAY
You watck yourself in these wee meejah wars the cheating hun sees it all bout them. And by your answer you want to engage Iin miring and givin them oxygen
I would rather not read about their demoted/put doon shite on cqn. I just smile.
HH
Fanatic says:
Watched Spurs beat City yesterday and couldn’t help thinking we would have won easily on Wednesday if Wanyama had played in Nirs Position.
Really. Why don’t we sign Wanyama, oh yes he would cost 30M and he wanted to leave.
I also recall us conceding many a goal from central positions when Wanyama was playing, Huns at Ibrox, 3 against ST Mirren at Hampden. You are showing your naivety with the above statement.
Funny that none of the goals we conceded on Wednesday was from Nirs position or any fault of Nirs.
Don’t let that get in the way of some good old fashioned Bitton bashing.
Also the position Brendan thought most needed strengthening was attacking midfielder, again we ignore that, doesn’t fit.
Sorry Fanatic just thought I’d bring a bit of balance to your Bitton bashing.
Doc
Love The ballad of Joe Hill. I’m off to see Billy Bragg tomorrow. He has played it a few times I have seen him. Hopefully he will play it tomorrow
Mac jay
I have no problem holding people accountable. And I realize it is easier to fire one underperforming coach than eleven underperforming players. But, last season, our captain was as bad a player, as RD was a coach… Glass houses. I expect better from a Celtic captain
MIKE IN TORONTO on 4TH OCTOBER 2016 3:50 AM
But, last season, our captain was as bad a player, as RD was a coach… Glass houses. I expect better from a Celtic captain
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We`ll have to disagree , mate.
A lot of players underperformed under Deila .
He`s the common denominator.
In the opinion of many on C.Q.N. , these players have improved under Brendan.
Not to mention the results.
Anyway , nice chatting.
Good morning from a dry, half cloudy and gently breezy East Kilbride.
Word of The Day
homologate /hɒˈmɒləˌɡeɪt/
verb (transitive)
1. (mainly Scots law) to approve or ratify (a deed or contract, esp one that is defective)
2. (law) to confirm (a proceeding, etc)
3. to recognize (a particular type of car or car component) as a production model or component rather than a prototype, as in making it eligible for a motor race
Derived Forms
homologation, noun
Word Origin
C17: from Medieval Latin homolog ā re to agree, from Greek homologein to approve, from homologos agreeing, from homo- + legein to speak
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KTF
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SID on 4th October 2016 3:16 am
Sid, I’m with you on this one. None of the goals can be attributed to Bitton’s defensive lapses; over and above that, he played the telling passes to Rogic and Tierney to set up the 2nd and 3rd goals.
Nir is the new Efe for a lot of Celtic fans; he follows in the footsteps of the likes of Neil Lennon and Peter Grant for the boo boys, especially in European games.
The type of player you miss more when he isn’t there! IMHO, he won’t be replaced in January. The attacking mid/playmaker role is one I feel he will concentrate on.
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KTF
How did young Dembele play last night. Saw he only got 9 mins. Not much you can do in that time I imagine.
Still. Good to see him get some time.
The syndicalism me thinks he won’t be around our club long enough to make an impact an will be enticed away by the perceived rewards of Bitcoin over guidance and prosperity of natural skill.
Hope I am wrong but only time will tell.
MWD
MOONBEAMSWD
Re our wunderkind,I’m hopeful that we will finally benefit from losing Feruz.
All he has to do is look at how IF career has developed since leaving Celtic,and compare it to how KT has developed by staying with us.
I’m hopeful that his family will not push him away from Celtic. Time will tell.
Surely its gladbach
Prediction…….
All this p#sh about – the ACT ????
Yeez can go to as many meetings, peddle as many petitions as yeez like.
Bottom line is – If yeez urny being harassed by the ACT then, yeez will be harassed by another ACT and, Celtic PLC-Hierarchy will lend they’re support of the ACT – on your behalf – so that ‘they’ will be seen to be on the ‘right’ side of the law and, all of you will be on the wrong side of the law – maybe there are some elements to, justify your being on the wrong side of the law ????
For instance….
Yeez break the laws of – naivety…..imho.
Ah mean,…..
WTF has ballads / songs the likes of, the Roll Of Honor, Bobby Sands, Grace etc….have to do with the team on the pitch ???? – Thee most important area of the club….imho.
Do these songs make the team play better ?
The songs are brilliant in my book.
But, do we need to sing 4, 5, 6 long-winded verses ‘all’ the time ???
Ah mean, where’s the cuteness ???
The Celtic-Cuteness ????
Ah mean, Mr Stein was well aware like, King Kojo was that, the ‘only’ way that Celtic will strike a blow to the establishment will be when the Celtic team on the pitch, cuffs the huns team on the pitch.
Ah mean, what else matters ????
Ah mean, yeez will never win in City Hall when, yeez have a Celtic PLC-Hierarchy in control of your club who will jump into bed with the establishment so that, ‘they’ will get an easy ride off the law enforcers whilst, the very folk who have financed the PLC-Hierarchies gravy train will be lifted at 6 am having the threat of they’re futures wrecked by the PLC-Hierarchies, establishment pals as they level the arrest count.
Ah mean, the PLC-Hierarchy lead a charmed existence.
They’ve been financed by a Celtic support who’ve been gulled by a squirrel called Brendan who’ll, probably win a shooting-fish-in-a-barrel-treble, he might land a couple of punches on some chins in Europe but, he’ll be offski as soon an EPL team flashes they’re nickers at him and, the PLC-Hierchy will revert to type and, hit yeez with another managerial-puppet like Ronny.
So, it’s simple….yeez will ‘never’ win in City Hall until, Celtic FC is controlled by a rebellious board of Celtic supporters who don’t / won’t jump into bed with the establishment,
Until then,….yeez can FACen dream on.
And on and on and on and on……..
…off-oot….
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I managed to read the words attributed to Scott Brown re Ronny and I cannot see what the fuss is about.
At this time last year both Scott and Leigh were giving ringing endorsements to the press about life under Ronny, including praise of the training. Sure, just over a year ago, the bold and forthright Chris Sutton was changing his tune to one of admiration, before swinging with the pack once more when the dressing room unrest became evident again.
Why should I not believe that Scott is only making the same noises he made towards Ronny as a positive talking club captain? The real test of his (and the squad’s) feelings will come when we hit a period of adversity. Will Leigh react like Kris did if he does not replace Moussa regularly? Will Liam H and Ryan C complain about a lack of opportunities? Will Paddy Roberts complain about being replaced by a cowardly, non-back-tracking waste of a jersey with no end product? Not, while we are winning, they won’t.
Mussolini’s nephew made the quote about “Victory has 100 fathers. No-one wants to recognise failure.” (based on a much older Roman quote)
Well, pro football is like that. Everything is rosy while you are being picked and the team is winning. Lose the first factor and you get a few grumbles that can be dismissed as sour grapes. Lose the 2nd factor, however, and the complaints sound legitimate to fans ears because they chime with their own views.
It is slowly becoming a Celtic myth (just like the Willo window myth) that we were terrible under Ronny; we were not. We had a pretty good turn around in season 1 while we had VVD and Jason- robbed of a treble and in Europe after Xmas- success by any Celtic standards- especially for a first season manager. We DID had a dreadful 2nd year without them but it was not 2 years of constant failure.
We will only be able to see how poor RD is as a coach/manager when he has had time to work beyond Celtic for a few years. We will only know how good Brendan is going to be when he has had similar time to put his FULL mark on this club.
The early signs are very very promising but we should be a wee bit more careful in rushing to judgement.
Look at previous Celtic write-offs- Scott Brown, Fraser Forster, James Forrest, Jozo Simunovic and Tom Rogic. They were the favoured scapegoats of several CQN rs but they have not been subject to much criticism these last two months.
Will that last if there are 2 or 3 adverse European results or if we fail to secure a win at Hampden vs the Zombies? That’s all it takes for fans and players to start feeling there’s something wrong after all.
MoonbeamsWD ‘Stand up on 15 for the GB’ on 4th October 2016 7:51 am
My mate went down to Cappielow to watch the U-2-‘s. He said that the wee mhan didnae look out of place and had some nice touches.
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KTF
P67 Tweeting last night,hinting about young Dembele not being here for long……..
SFTB….
Nailed sir! 100% nailed!
HH
About a month ago, Celtic announced that the club had been served with a charge from UEFA for the supporters’ display of an “illicit flag” during the game v Hapoel Be’er Sheva at Celtic Park.
The statement went on to say that the club would be making no further comment “at this time” and restricted the statement to a confirmation of the charge. I commented then that it was unusual for the club not to attempt to mitigate the offence by publicly condemning the offenders in advance of the UEFA hearing.
Now, here we are a month later, and a week after the punishment was handed down, and Celtic have yet to utter a single word against the Celtic Park Palestine protest.
Tacit approval?
If so, the board deserve great credit on this one.
SFTB
” I know that I will be considered to have a bias in these views but I think such determination to not lose face or power is one of the classic signs of an insecure view of ourselves.”
Why would you be considered to have a bias in those views?
JJ
setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on 4th October 2016 9:06 am
Will Paddy Roberts complain about being replaced by a cowardly, non-back-tracking waste of a jersey with no end product?
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That’s a bit harsh considering James Forrest’s recent displays. Or are you paraphrasing others views?
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KTF
Good Morning Bhoys from a dry bright Central Scotland well I see the MSM are linking us with Stevie Gerrard again it must be a slow news day. Scott Brown has more faces than the town hall clock and should learn to show a bit of loyalty bad mouthing Ronny Delia who he was praising this time last year is poor from the Captain of Glasgow Celtic and in my opinion makes him the lesser man. H.H.
sftb
good post, cautionary tale indeed
The signs are very good under BR and Scott Brown’s comments merely underline that there probably was dressing room unrest under RD, who stayed way too faithful to Scott playing him whilst injured.
Motivational or coaching skills whatever it is, just about everyone could be said to be playing better than they where this time last year, and the three main BR signings have all hit the ground running.
Stuart Armstrong and James Forrest no longer fill the problem position because Scott Sinclair plays the role with the proper attritbutes, and Christie, MacGregor and Henderson are all champing at the bit for a game.
Both full backs Mikel and KT are playing out of their skin, Sviatchenko is a rock, and Simunovic looks ready to to rotate with Toure? One lone gunman up front, and yet who could pick between Dembele and Griffiths?
I watched the excellent Jimmy Johnstone BBC Alba documentary and even the greatest ever Celt says he needed motivated and mentioned how Jock Stein ‘knew what to say’ – maybe Brendan knows too.
HH
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 4TH OCTOBER 2016 9:06 AM
My dear fellow.
I have always had respect for supporters of lost causes .
A kind of admiration for their staunch support in spite of blindingly obvious evidence to the contrary which shows that they are punting a lost cause.
Accordingly I present to you for your further delectation SFTB`s proven losers.
Deila and Corbyn.
One`s gone.
The other , hopefully , will go soon , because a viable political opposition in U.K. right now is absolutely vital.
Setting free the bears
Agree with a lot of your view
And remember
we had our oh so hurting media in all its forms,, daily in print, hourly and half hourly by radio, on telly,and lie upon instantaneous lie over new media that the administration and liquidation of
R (ight) F (ookin) C(heats)
Didnae happen!!
it did
Mythbuilding eh!!
£10,000 fine – what happened to the Stand getting closed?
Taken out of proportion by SMSM, in much the same way as any other number of Celtic ‘misdemeanours’
Brown is only dotting the “i’s” and crossing the “t’s”.
We all knew Ronny was a dud for us.
We said a lot worse on here about him.
Still, I suppose he was a nice man.
C’MON THE BRENDAN AND THE BROONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!