There was a fascinating and completely unfounded angle to the Daily Record’s story today about Celtic’s forthcoming AGM, “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly”.
Oh no they don’t. This is an incredible dose of poison to inject into the Celtic family.
The matter in question is a resolution before the AGM urging Celtic to write to the SFA and Uefa regarding club licencing for season 2011/12. As a result of this resolution Celtic’s written response to the AGM confirms that they questioned the SFA’s licensing at the time directly with the Association, a fact which had not previously been revealed. The matter was also raised with Uefa. Both bodies backed the SFA actions.
I knew how this played out at the time and I was keen for the matter to reach the AGM, where questions could be asked and responses given, but lines like “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers were dealt with fairly” are put out just to mess with you.
The Record addresses another point in the same article, “the Scottish champions are also acutely aware of how official action would heighten tensions between fans of the two clubs”. If you think Charles Green was the only one on the receiving end of threats and intimidation last year, when these matters came to light, you’re wrong.
Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly. The SFA are not interested and Uefa are not interested. As a result of this resolution, this issue can be properly examined in front of the supporters.
The club’s public comments, or often, the lack of public comments, put the safety of their employees and supporters, which was already acutely in focus, first. Not so long ago office staff at Celtic had to go through training on how to open the mail following specific attacks.
Despite popular mythology, Celtic don’t control the SFA, re-orientating that organisation will take a while. The issue of licensing in 2011 was pursued as far as the club were allowed to do so. Get along to the AGM, look the board in the eye and ask your questions on this. Celtic also have a responsibility – and a lot of formal security advice – to staff, each other and all of us when it comes to public comment. This is the world Celtic has to operate in. The sooner we are out of here the better.
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Hunskelper,
Are you telling us you’ve never let your children out of your sight ?
Never been anywhere you considered safe ?
No one knows when or if something like that could or would happen but casting such aspersions is only acts as a distraction to the investigation.
lily 21.25
No question about that.
Their only ray of sunshine right now is the criticism by Celtic supporters of the Celtic Board.
The hun must be laughing it`s collective cojones off right now at the psychological lifebelt being thrown to it by some Celtic supporters.
Best X1 I have seen: Simpson, McGrain, McNeill, Connelly and Gemmell; Murdoch, Auld and Dalglish; Johnstone, McBride and Larsson.
2nd X1: Boruc, Hay, Evans, Elliot and Clark; Gallagher, Crerand and Moravick; Lennox, Wallace and McGeady.
Lilys..,
Dont think theres much else to say, you quite obviously want Celtic to be the eternal victim, I dont.
After a stressless and comfortable drive into work this morning, it eventually dawned on me that there was no “bliddy wummin drivers” on the road…….the school holidays……nae school run……total bliss. Which got me thinkin…….if we really want tae get the economy back on its feet…….ban “wummin drivers” fae the roads between the hours of 7.30 am and 9.30 am. People going to work will get there quicker…resulting inmore production….weans will have to walk or cycle to school….resulting in less obesity….and fitter kids…..and if we extend it tae the return journey….ie….nae “wummin drivers” between 3 and 4 pm…..we’ll all get a better tea……a win win situation methinks
Kayal33, Fergus would have had their guts for garters.
Cala
What Im trying to say is, If UEFA has given them the ok, and SFA has given them the ok, are we not going to look , and be portryed as looking so f……. stupid?
lilys
Kayal33 21:40 on 14 October, 2013
“Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly. ”
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What does this mean and have you seen documentation or a statement to back this up?
I have never seen anything from Celtic that stated that they asked the SFA or UEFA to investigate Rangers license.
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
21:41 on 14 October, 2013
If they never left them it wouldn’t of happened and no I have never and would never leave my girl in a flat alone on holiday or at home it wouldn’t even cross my mind
tigertim
21:45 on 14 October, 2013
see P67s piece at top of page
Aye back of the bus right enough.
Know your place Timmy.
Macjay..,
I expect they have more to worry about than us not imitating their stupidity, had they done what we are doing now they’d still exist.
Macjay,
100%
lilys
ps, Canamaler, anytime I was on holiday, the weans were ALWAYS out with us ,
hun skelper
21:45 on 14 October, 2013
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
21:41 on 14 October, 2013
If they never left them it wouldn’t of happened and no I have never and would never leave my girl in a flat alone on holiday or at home it wouldn’t even cross my mind
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Got to agree and everyone I know says the same, why on earth would you…
HH
Blaming the McCanns rather deflects from the responsibility of the culprit/s who took her.
lilys..,
How do you know UEFA have given them the ok ?
And who cares about the corrupt SFA, a public challenge would have made UEFA respond then we would have known, the meaning and power of transparency seems to escape many on here.
lennybhoy…supporting neil lennon, wee oscar knox and cfc until i die
19:51 on 14 October, 2013
………..
Thanks Lennybhoy
Cqn’ers if you haven’t already paid your respects then please do it, we have lost a great Celtic man and it should be remembered.
Vinny
Radio Four’s ‘Moral maze’ is essential listening this week. Listen to supporters of abortion fail to condemn infanticide. It is chilling. Somebody called Claire Fox was involved.
I have to agree with the posters about leaving your kids, grandkids these days, not something that would have crossed my mind.
Many years ago, when the young fella was 3 or 4, was at a car boot sale, we though he was in the car, we were a matter of feet away, discovered he wasn’t, total panic, and fair play to the Edinburgh polis, they had the square locked down within mins of us reporting him missing, he was sleeping in another car, the joy and relief, the fear, all within a small matter of time.
HH
Parkheadcumsalford
At their best who was the best?
As ever its been an interesting evening on CQN gentlemen (perhaps a few ladies lurking too?)
The level of intelligence and articulation on display across a multitude of topics is always impressive.
Truly more than a football club!
Hun skelper,
Thats not what I asked, I asked have you ever let your children out of sight, you know you have, everyone has usually its no a big deal until some poor family suffers a loss, then the holy willies blame the parents rather than the criminals.
Out of order.
Here’s the real world. Try and place yourself inside the Celtic boardroom and ask yourself what you would do .
You have competed for years against an opponent who ignore the rules. Worse than that they actively conceal their rule breaking. They lie to anyone , Tax authorities or Football authorities, who asks if the entire player contract has been lodged with the SFA /SPL.
The outcome of this rule breaking, tax evasion, and deception resulted in strong criticism of individuals at Celtic. Criticism occasionally was warranted, mistakes were sometimes made. However overall, you were being asked to run in a 100 metres race where another runner was wearing illegal kit, had taken performance enhancing drugs and was allowed to start 20 metres down the track
Now when eventually your crooked opponent crashes and burns, you are asked to vote on effectively allowing them a free pass.
How can anyone, who doesn’t have a default position of kick the board, think for a second that the board would vote for this. After being cheated , personally and professionally , for over a decade.
Yet that is what we were being told in the Summer of 2012. Conspiracy theorists were screaming Celtic would vote for Rangers to stay in the SPL. It wasn’t true, it was never true, but it suited some agenda’s and played directly to those who get wound up without considering the logic of a claim.
And now,
We are being asked to believe it all over again. The logic of this is staggeringly inept. Ethically and emotionally a Vote for Rangers in the SPL was impossible . Financially Celtic were always going to vote against Rangers being invited into the SPL. A 3 year free run at the title, and CL monies, was a no brainer to say no.
What possible benefit is there to Celtic to state Rangers were dealt with fairly. They weren’t . You and I know that, Celtic know that, and were every bit as angry as we were over Nimmo Smith’s outcome.
Celtic though have to live in the real world. They asked the SFA and Uefa to investigate the issue of a Euro Licence. The SFA have zero incentive to out themselves as incompetent/ biased/ corrupt/ complicit. Therefore no joy there.
Uefa are a collection of national associations. They support their own , they will not take the side of ANY individual club over ANY national association. To do so undermines their own status and authority
That’s the real world. Celtic have to walk a delicate line, not least because they do not want an SFA veto on any potential future change in where Celtic play their competitive football .
Exiled Tim, nobody would dispute that they made a mistake. However some of the vitriol directed to them from the odious Daily Express and Starwas shocking.
greendreamz
21:59 on
14 October, 2013
It’s a full moon too so the nightshift howlers should be good :)
if you dont apportion any blame on the mccanns do we absolve them?
with parenthood comes a responsibility that should never be shirked, not even for half an hour
OldFirmco ?
New OldFirm Co ?
Meet the New Firm same as the Old Firm .
Cala,
Has Celtic not stated that they already took the matter up with UEFA?
lilys
Greendreamz, you mentioned some parcel of rogues this evening. How many people’s deaths were Lenin et al responsible for. Lenin was a sadist. Some of his first targets were priests and nuns.
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
21:59 on 14 October, 2013
Letting your kids our your sight for a second and leaving them intensionaly are worlds apart, am not a holy willie but I know right from wrong and in my humble opinion they where wrong
John O Neil,
God only knows how much they are hurting, and will for the rest of there lives, but, they left those children alone and un attended, God almighty.
lilys
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
21:59 on 14 October, 2013
Hun skelper,Thats not what I asked, I asked have you ever let your children out of sight, you know you have, everyone has usually its no a big deal until some poor family suffers a loss, then the holy willies blame the parents rather than the criminals.Out of order.
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Ok…who was to blame for the death of James Bulger…?
HH
Hunskelper, not as wrong as the person/s who took her. You aren’t referencing him/them much
Lads.
Please.
Look at the tortured face of Mrs.McCann in the most recent interview.
Barcacelt,
Nobody said it was easy but again, why would we ask the SFA anything ?
The CFCB is set up to investigate national association irregularities eventually they will have do their job, else why have them ?
Agreed there will be some pain but can you put hand on heart and say in the long run it would achieve nothing how will we know if we dont try ?
Barcabhoy
As ever you put your point over very well, and I agree with nigh on all of it.
Answer me this……
Why did Celtic, when they did all they could, allegedly, support the re election of RCO ?
HH
Barcabhoy 22:00 on 14 October, 2013
“Celtic though have to live in the real world. They asked the SFA and Uefa to investigate the issue of a Euro Licence.”
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I have never seen a statement from Celtic, the SFA or UEFA pertaining to any license investigation of Rangers.
Just in case I missed it I have tonight attempted many Google searches for this but can find nothing. Unless of course Jack Irvine has removed all history regarding this.
Lily’s, good evening. Like I said previously, why not mention the real culprits?