There was a fascinating and completely unfounded angle to the Daily Record’s story today about Celtic’s forthcoming AGM, “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly”.
Oh no they don’t. This is an incredible dose of poison to inject into the Celtic family.
The matter in question is a resolution before the AGM urging Celtic to write to the SFA and Uefa regarding club licencing for season 2011/12. As a result of this resolution Celtic’s written response to the AGM confirms that they questioned the SFA’s licensing at the time directly with the Association, a fact which had not previously been revealed. The matter was also raised with Uefa. Both bodies backed the SFA actions.
I knew how this played out at the time and I was keen for the matter to reach the AGM, where questions could be asked and responses given, but lines like “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers were dealt with fairly” are put out just to mess with you.
The Record addresses another point in the same article, “the Scottish champions are also acutely aware of how official action would heighten tensions between fans of the two clubs”. If you think Charles Green was the only one on the receiving end of threats and intimidation last year, when these matters came to light, you’re wrong.
Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly. The SFA are not interested and Uefa are not interested. As a result of this resolution, this issue can be properly examined in front of the supporters.
The club’s public comments, or often, the lack of public comments, put the safety of their employees and supporters, which was already acutely in focus, first. Not so long ago office staff at Celtic had to go through training on how to open the mail following specific attacks.
Despite popular mythology, Celtic don’t control the SFA, re-orientating that organisation will take a while. The issue of licensing in 2011 was pursued as far as the club were allowed to do so. Get along to the AGM, look the board in the eye and ask your questions on this. Celtic also have a responsibility – and a lot of formal security advice – to staff, each other and all of us when it comes to public comment. This is the world Celtic has to operate in. The sooner we are out of here the better.
Sean Fallon: Celtic’s Iron Man, drink in the legend:
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Oh dear
Im beginning to think there are trolls looking to distract from a very good discussion
john, that made me laugh. maybe it shouldn’t given the subject but it did
It’s wee Maddie I feel sorry for.
I hope to God she is ok.
I couldn’t give a monkey’s for her parents
Ogilvie supposedly has to stand aside whenever anything arises regarding the huns that might amount to a conflict of interest.
For that reason alone he shouldn’t be in post.
John O’Neil
That is two things you have told me that I didn’t know, as ever this blog is an education.
I must try the Georgian vino at some point.
Stalin’s grandwean a Tim, well I never, but why not.
HH
I think it looks like Celtic board behind scenes asked the questions we wud want them too. However many of us are very angry an our board, despite not doin anytime wrong gettin brunt. Personally think that for years we called out the hun for their cheating, the staggering injustices we faced while they cheated their way to titles. We were told we were paranoid, were we really serious that from deep within sfa concerted effort was made to favour one team, we were openly mocked an derided for this. Again an again. It hurt it was annoying. But we were proven right. In fact the collusion was greater than we ever imagined.that target we had all these yrs is now insignificant an we have trained our sights elsewhere, we have turned on ourselves an lookin for other targets. Something in our psychy doesn’t like us bein on top an we get unsettled. Things goin to well for us but we can’t get over those acts of the past an still feel the injustice of it an lookin for payback. We won’t ever get closure, i commend those fighting the good fights an hope they get the chance to air their grievances but for me, Im past it, the tribute act are an relevance to me. If they ever get bac to top i personally know they aren’t the same team, Will never treat them same or have the same feelings. A lot of hate in me died when they died an for that Im thankful.
ernie lynch
22:36 on
14 October, 2013
As far as I can see, anybody that has held high office at a Scottish football club should be excluded from the position.
Should read irrelevance to me
ernie lynch 22 36
Well that should be interesting
lilys
If you look back at earlier posts today, it would appear that just about every senior employee at the SPFL is a hun and a mason.
If the shameless CO leaves, who would step into his shoes?
A Tim or another hun loving mason?
Naw, ah don’t know either.
John O’Neil
22:31 on 14 October, 2013
Baldrick, your buffoonery works better on Blackadder
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Do you honestly think a single mother who left her children alone to go drinking would have received the same level of sympathy and help?
hun skelper
22:33 on 14 October, 2013
canamalar prays oscar can do it again
22:23 on 14 October, 2013
Not at all I said in my first comment you’ve got to feel for them no one should have to go through what there going through, not sure where your going with your comment mate but your wide of the mark
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Wee Madeleine asked them where they were, when she woke up crying the night before…
Och anything we say on here won’t change a thing, it’s all been said before.
God willing this investigation might turn up something, positive or negative.
HH
lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar
22:16 on
14 October, 2013
Your attention to your family is indeed commendable,and long may you do so,consider however that others may not have been blessed with your single minded approach and as such are prone to error.
Of course the McCanns made an error,they know it,they are living with it,and what we,the accusers and the sympathisers alike should do,is offer a prayer each night for them and to hope none of us ever are placed in this void of despair.
Every night.
greendreamz 18:34 on
We all know we live in a grubby little sectarian and bigoted backwater of a country and make up between 16-18% of the population
Just catching up but I thought the %age of ‘tic supporters in Scotland would be much higher than this.
Also I believe we are guests in Paul’s place and for 10 years i have enjoyed visiting this place but my God I think some other guests lack basic manners.
Philbhoy
Yes you do >}
HH
scotlands shame…..
they cannot get back anywhere ,unless the Old 3rd division ….they are on the slab ,Liquidation is there…it is happening ….they are dead ….end of ….and that is braw…
Baldrick
She would have been called a slut and good time girl and ripped a new one by all and sundry.
Next question
Exiled, this is no joke: I have friends who are Communist Orthodox Christians. They are also wine fanatics. They adore Georgian wine. It sounds bizarre perhaps but apparently it is that good. Moreover, some family brought up throughout the Soviet Union also testify to its taste. Georgian polyphonic singing is also incredible. Should you watch Russia Today then you may know that Sophie is Georgian.
Green furry, I was an idiot to you some time ago. Apologies. You won’t remember.
TET
I know you are right!
Heart goes out to the McCanns and I
Pray for them and little Madeline on a regular basis – I have a daughter strikingly similar and same age
But tonight they said Madeline had told them she cried the night before when she woke up and they weren’t there – if your kid told u that would u leave them again ?
Also it was the first I’d heard tonight about the onsite crèche were 11 other kids were being minded why did they not use it ?
My kids go to the resturant or bar with me same as everyone else I know – if they don’t go I don’t go it’s one of the downsides of being on holiday with kids – why did they think they could leave their kids ?
Think about it would you leave a bag of cash in an unlocked apartment on holiday ?
THE EXILED TIM
22:36 on 14 October, 2013
John O’Neil
That is two things you have told me that I didn’t know, as ever this blog is an education.
I must try the Georgian vino at some point.
http://georgianwinesociety.co.uk/
This is a great site for Georgian wine, I came across it by accident a while ago.
Scotlands Shame,
I’d say we wanted action, there was recourse for action through the CFCB, might have asked questions is a far cry from taking action, for years we’ve been told things are going on behind the scenes and to date we have seen no evidence of any behind the scenes results they are dead by their own hand, their support structure/enablers have grown stronger so maybe you can tell us exactly what has gone on behind the scenes. Since I first started reading this blog i’ve read the same lies, they are working behind the scenes and we will soon be out of Scotland. The same bull is still being used, and the stupids are still buying it.
Good night and God bless.
St John Doyle RIP
God help his family and friends to cope with their loss.
john i believe i wasn’t blameless myself. i enjoy your musings
no apology neede
hail hail
Baldrick, were the parents of Ian Brady’s victims culpable? Were all those parents in the 60s who let their children roam culpable had something wicked occurred?
I said at the start of this our board had the choice through their choices,words &actions in overseeing the liquidation of the huns situation, of being up there with the greats in our clubs history Maley Mcgrory Stein McNeil or lumped in with the likes of Farry Peat Ogilve and other enemies of our club who did not put us the fans first.
This has still to play out but my I have a terrible feeling deep in the pit of my stomach that money is the major motivator in our choices so far ,I pray I am so so wrong.
Good night all
even typing things like that dont make me feel right .
philbhoy – bring it on!!!!
22:49 on 14 October, 2013
Good night and God bless.St John Doyle RIPGod help his family and friends to cope with their loss.
Ditto..
That was four newco directors at Cameron House, one with glasses don’t know his name, but in photographs with Mather.
I’ll no be back… am tellin ye
HH
John O’Neil
When I want to watch a news prog, I tend to turn RT or Al Jazera on, the docs on RT are superb, as is Max Kaiser.
I will certainly have a look see for the vino, it sounds interesting, thanks.
HH
The amount of money Celtic make in our “old firm” association is a drop in the ocean compared to the level of revenue we could make in the right environment without them.
Make no mistake, the board are watching this situation carefully and know what to do to give the system enough rope to hang themselves and make good our escape.
Anyone who thinks the board are inactive are naïve in my opinion, and going public on their machinations may have a detrimental effect on their aims.
We need to chill out and let them do their thing.
excathedra44, 22.44
I agree exactly with all thoe sentiments, God just ti let you know Lily is the light of my life, shes only turned 2, the pain they go through is without doubt unbearable, at least to me, its just such a horrible case, and as someone else mentioned, what happened with young Ben Needham, his mum was a single mother !
lilys
John O’Neil – hope you are well?
As for the premise of Celtic’s action or inaction on these matters – so basically it all boils down to the climate of fear and intimidation.
How shameful is that!
TET …….your a class act ……………braw
Night all
RIP St John Doyle
All say a prayer to St Anthony that wee Madeline is found
It’s interesting to consider how news is managed and a dominant narrative established through the use of PR companies and threats of legal action.
You sometimes wonder if we’ll ever find out the truth about things.
Eddie
Thanks for that, as I said an education is this site.
I never knew that Georgia has more species of grape and a longer wine heritage than any other country in the world, even more interesting.
Quite an eye opener that is.
HH
Ernie,
Whether they said they’ve done nothing wrong or not isn’t the point – but Kate McCann, on at least one occasion has stated that it’s something that’s she goes over again and again. If they had that time again, they wouldn’t.
Gold stars to those boys who’ve never sinned. Me, I remember being over with the family – Uncles, Aunties, and Grandparents – in Bunbeg, at Kitty’s, and putttin the kids to bed in the hotel room, thinkin they’ll be safe enough while we’re in the bar and somebody is poppin up every ten / fifteen minutes to check on them. They were, we were lucky.
Shite, were yous people never in trouble and needin a bit of help
Neganon, yes I am ok thanks. I admire Camalar and others for their determination. Celtic board members must be careful with their words at the AGM. What do you think about it all?