This is the world Celtic has to operate in


There was a fascinating and completely unfounded angle to the Daily Record’s story today about Celtic’s forthcoming AGM, “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly”.

Oh no they don’t.  This is an incredible dose of poison to inject into the Celtic family.

The matter in question is a resolution before the AGM urging Celtic to write to the SFA and Uefa regarding club licencing for season 2011/12.  As a result of this resolution Celtic’s written response to the AGM confirms that they questioned the SFA’s licensing at the time directly with the Association, a fact which had not previously been revealed.  The matter was also raised with Uefa.  Both bodies backed the SFA actions.

I knew how this played out at the time and I was keen for the matter to reach the AGM, where questions could be asked and responses given, but lines like “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers were dealt with fairly” are put out just to mess with you.

The Record addresses another point in the same article, “the Scottish champions are also acutely aware of how official action would heighten tensions between fans of the two clubs”.  If you think Charles Green was the only one on the receiving end of threats and intimidation last year, when these matters came to light, you’re wrong.

Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly.  The SFA are not interested and Uefa are not interested.  As a result of this resolution, this issue can be properly examined in front of the supporters.

The club’s public comments, or often, the lack of public comments, put the safety of their employees and supporters, which was already acutely in focus, first.  Not so long ago office staff at Celtic had to go through training on how to open the mail following specific attacks.

Despite popular mythology, Celtic don’t control the SFA, re-orientating that organisation will take a while.  The issue of licensing in 2011 was pursued as far as the club were allowed to do so.  Get along to the AGM, look the board in the eye and ask your questions on this.  Celtic also have a responsibility – and a lot of formal security advice – to staff, each other and all of us when it comes to public comment.  This is the world Celtic has to operate in.  The sooner we are out of here the better.

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  1. barcabhoy


    22:00 on 14 October, 2013





    The possibility of Celtic playing our weekly football elsewhere is non existent.


    This is a smoke screen. It will never happen.


    When we recognise this we can focus on holding the SFA responsible for enforcing the rule book. Until then we will deflect and prevaricate.

  2. corkcelt



    23:35 on 14 October, 2013



    ‘Of course they were wrong and they don’t need anyone to tell them that.’






    They deny they did anything wrong. They maintain their behaviour was ‘within the boundaries of responsible parenting.’

  3. Zbyszek, I might just do that! Hail hail to the Poles.


    Neganon, how about the Ajax games? Are you confident?

  4. TET, I’m not one bit afraid of “their return”. First of all they can’t return, however I accept a tribute act will eventually return, but I’m not afraid of that either. They had the upperhand when they were really living beyond their means, I can’t see them doing that again. I am quietly confident that we can dominate them for years. I have no doubt all good things come to an end and eventually they will win a Title. When they do, they do. Yep it will be gut wrenching for a while but that is the downside of a sporting obsession. If you want the highs, you’ve just got to live with the lows. There is no other way.

  5. thomthethim for Oscar OK on




    Of course it is Fear that is driving the anti Board frenzy.



    It goes with the environment we operate in.



    It is also a skewed class thing, as I referred to in my post.



    It should be a matter of pride that so many of our diaspora’s children have, by means of their parents love and sacrifice, through education, have reached high levels of success in their careers.



    The tasteless comments re the Mc.Canns are another manifestation of mean spirited jealousy against that same diaspora.



    This was not a nice place today and is increasingly becoming a soulless abode.




  6. Jimmy I feel those movements had some valid and noble aims. However they also contained many useful idiots who supported Communism.

  7. Ernie, I heard the McCanns interviewed on a number of occasions and they expressed their deep regrets for leaving the Children unattended. Anyways I have to bid ye all goodnight as I have a 7.30am start in the morning. HH

  8. John O’Neil



    23:47 on 14 October, 2013



    That’s true. It was in the Daily Mail, so it must be true.

  9. Was listening to SSB earlier tonight,( I know I know!), and Super Dave was the main subject of debate, surprise surprise. I dont know if I missed it, but, when talk of his “return” to “thems” was mentioned, indeed, hailed, I didn’t hear any mention of him being barred as a possible director for 5 years. As far as the token hun on the panel was concerned, him and Murray were a shoo-in to pass any “fit and proper person” test. Their arrogance still astounds me!



    There are still loads of them who think King got off with the SA tax case!!



    ..and, Frank McAvennie I’m afraid, is like a fish out of water doing these phone-ins. He should start reading this esteemed blog, and others such as KDS, and TSFM to get himself a bit of knowledge and understanding of what’s really going on. He’s being made to sound like a Timmy version of Dee Ell!



    Come on Frankie, wisen up son!




  10. Ernie, even you would not be so daft as to suggest that there were no links. You aren’t daft are you?

  11. JimmyQuinnsBits on




    what was attractive about communism, why did it become a force, what context made it better than the alternatives?



    I had members of my family who were avid communists, and I respected the hell out of them. They had to endure more than you (I’m guessing) or I will know, and it was the solution to them workin in the pit for others profit, or demeaning themselves to serve at “the big hoose” to chinless gommerels, whose only endeavour was to devour the profits their thieving antecedents had vultured ( a new verb I’ve just made up).



    Still, mustn’t upset the apple-cart, better to tug the old forelock than agitate against class systems, cause everybody ends up in gulags.

  12. wonder if Trigger has ever left a foal alone …we will never know ….his soul will never be recovered ….sad sad wee man …

  13. John O’Neil



    23:55 on 14 October, 2013



    Links between what?



    Capitalist societies are divided by class.



    Different classes have competing interests.



    Class conflict is inevitable.

  14. Hi guys



    Been off all night, been busy on the ole farm. Done ma back in, don’t know how, but in agony. Talk to you tomorrow, hopefully. Night Night Timland.



    Weefra HH supporting Wee Oscar.

  15. corkcelt



    I do fear their return, the under 18s game was a prelude to the bigger picture, and I want no part of that.



    Their hate will have had a few more years to mature, and it’s festering by the day.



    The cheating will continue with no objection, and our club will wither and die.



    I honestly believe that, the support will walk away unless their is a fight to stop them.



    Canamlar is doing his bit, he is asking for answers.









    I agree, the whole of the club. including here is losing it’s sole.



    It’s getting to time up for me, me thinks.



    I also agree it’s BC or DC.



    As for the Mc Canns, I feel for them, no right minded person wouldn’t.






    Sleep well Timland.



    Take care and god bless.

  16. lilys grandpa-me and lily backing oscar



    23:41 on 14 October, 2013



    I’m a bit shocked mate some on here seem to think leaving kids alone is the norm, my way of parenting and looking after my kid is very different you learn something every day I suppose.


    Good night all and hopefully the McCanns get maddie back safe and sound and the perpetrator gets his neck rung

  17. I took an interest in the McCann case.


    I have my doubts about many things.


    Unlike Ernie, I have grown weary of trying to explain why I have my doubts.



    Ernie, I salute your indefatigability.

  18. John O’Neil



    00:03 on 15 October, 2013



    I think most people of whatever hue agree that there are different classes and that their interests conflict.



    It’s hardly controversial.

  19. Jimmy, conditions were terrible of course. However some Union men continued to support Communism even after the horrors were exposed. They showed scant regard for the working class suckers in Soviet Russia.

  20. John O’Neil



    00:07 on 15 October, 2013



    ‘working class’






    You accept that classes exist?

  21. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on

    John O Neil



    Sorry I wasnt clearerm what did you mean about bringing class inito yhe “Madie” case

  22. Yes Ernie. However the fluidity of people’s situations makes it difficult to adhere to the old stereotypes about classes. For example Alex Ferguson is no longer working class.

  23. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on

    Hun skelper,



    Im with you , weans make a holiday!





  24. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    “The working class can kiss my ass,



    I’ve got the gaffers job at last.” ( to the tune of The Internationale).



    Popular shop floor ditty of the 50s / 60s.



    G’night and God Bless all here.

  25. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on

    John, O’ Neil



    Do you know whay age I am? ,I understand now, you remember a young boy, went missing in Kos?




  26. JimmyQuinnsBits on




    I know you don’t mean it like this, but that reads like a sanctimonious pat on the head.



    The change in the paradigm from pre-communist to post-communist Russia was so monumental, I’d suggest nothing like it has happened in the history of humanity, and it revealed the worst of us – but not because of the ideals; have you read Marx?



    In that tumult, the bestiality of man came to the fore, in the same way it happened in Germany, and in Spain. The parallels, although different in scale, aren’t hard to find.



    In Russia, an intellectual elite, warring amongst themselves, and in mortal fear of a counter-revolution, used uneducated peasants and turned them into an army of thugs. The revolution was lost from that point.

  27. John O’Neil



    00:11 on 15 October, 2013



    I get the impression you have a very superficial grasp of the issue.

  28. Nobody in the PLC is working to undermine Celtic.



    Nobody took Maddy McCann.



    In both cases there is plenty evidence out there. Sad tho ‘ it may be to the beliefs and arguments of some.



    I hate international breaks.

  29. John O’Neil



    00:13 on 15 October, 2013



    I don’t consider any country to be socialist.



    You haven’t read anything Marx wrote have you?