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There was a fascinating and completely unfounded angle to the Daily Record’s story today about Celtic’s forthcoming AGM, “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly”.

Oh no they don’t.  This is an incredible dose of poison to inject into the Celtic family.

The matter in question is a resolution before the AGM urging Celtic to write to the SFA and Uefa regarding club licencing for season 2011/12.  As a result of this resolution Celtic’s written response to the AGM confirms that they questioned the SFA’s licensing at the time directly with the Association, a fact which had not previously been revealed.  The matter was also raised with Uefa.  Both bodies backed the SFA actions.

I knew how this played out at the time and I was keen for the matter to reach the AGM, where questions could be asked and responses given, but lines like “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers were dealt with fairly” are put out just to mess with you.

The Record addresses another point in the same article, “the Scottish champions are also acutely aware of how official action would heighten tensions between fans of the two clubs”.  If you think Charles Green was the only one on the receiving end of threats and intimidation last year, when these matters came to light, you’re wrong.

Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly.  The SFA are not interested and Uefa are not interested.  As a result of this resolution, this issue can be properly examined in front of the supporters.

The club’s public comments, or often, the lack of public comments, put the safety of their employees and supporters, which was already acutely in focus, first.  Not so long ago office staff at Celtic had to go through training on how to open the mail following specific attacks.

Despite popular mythology, Celtic don’t control the SFA, re-orientating that organisation will take a while.  The issue of licensing in 2011 was pursued as far as the club were allowed to do so.  Get along to the AGM, look the board in the eye and ask your questions on this.  Celtic also have a responsibility – and a lot of formal security advice – to staff, each other and all of us when it comes to public comment.  This is the world Celtic has to operate in.  The sooner we are out of here the better.

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    canamalar

     

     

    They dont need to do underhand stuff to block any resolution some technical error me thinks

     

     

    HH

  2. smoke and mirrors on

    canamalar prays Oscar can do it again

     

     

    Thanks, maybe I will contact the new hero of sevco Kenny Mcnuckle dragger who will surely read out my tweet to cause “US” maximum pain.

  3. From today’s Hootsan

     

     

     

    ‘Far from being the first Rangers or Celtic player to bring a lack of tact to the incendiary derby, Boruc’s insistence on crossing himself when the Glasgow rivals locked horns hinted at an armour-like thickness of skin, but it could also have been interpreted as something close to wilful self-destructiveness.’

     

     

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/latest/artur-boruc-stature-grows-as-he-faces-england-test-1-3141649

     

     

    And some people want to return to that.

  4. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Awe_naw..,

     

    I wouldnt be too sure about that, I think there was a message about it being closed, che is getting in contact and will update us with the response, meanwhile I’m checking out the legalities.

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    canamalar

     

     

    Are you not sure about a technical hitch or that they can block any resolution ?

     

     

    The answer to both has to be yes to have any consternation unless you just want it recorded for posterity sakes.

     

     

    HH

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    Proxy voting is an important part of corporate governance,and the board should actively be encouraging it.

     

     

    One of the main principles of corporate governance is laid out here:-

     

     

    Rights and equitable treatment of shareholders: Organizations should respect the rights of shareholders and help shareholders to exercise those rights. They can help shareholders exercise their rights by openly and effectively communicating information and by encouraging shareholders to participate in general meetings.

  7. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    It would also be easier to dismiss it if there is no popular support, we know it will be voted down by the corporate and block vote but if it gained popular support from the small shareholders a real message would have been sent, one they could neither dismiss or ignore. Ha who am I kidding

  8. scotlands shame on

    Canamalar i think u may have taken offence at my ramblings last nite. I was tryin in round bout way to say i admire those like u who are tryin to seek truth an justice an get answers for the cheating that has went on for years. Just said in my mind now they are dead an nobody can tell me otherwise an i get their reincarnation is a poison but they Will never be the same to me. I had a lot of hate for old mob an wasted a lot of my time fixated with them an had a lot of stress bout their cheating. As far as Im concerned they’re dead the air is clearer an my life better because of it. Not bothered if that makes u think Im one of the stupids. Im not buying a lot of what is said i just don’t care anymore. U seem to equate some fans lack of action on this as down to the fact they are intellectually inadequate compared to u an they are fed all this pr an just lap it up, not always the case. Again ifinish by sayin i admire u an others lookin for answers, i hope u get chance to get this discussed in public but don’t want civil war, the version of the hun is the bad guy an Celtic the good guy, for all their faults! Take care an hail hail

  9. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    BMCUWP

     

     

    Its either a technical hitch or yet another indication how Celtic FC is ran. For its majority shareholder only.

     

     

    HH

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    Of course,that is not to say that the board are against ALL proxy voting.

     

     

    Heaven forfend.

     

     

    That would mean Dermot would have to turn up,or be disenfranchised like all the rest.

  11. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Awe_naw…,

     

    I was on about the tech hitch, I was sure I read it was simply closed but we’ll see soon enough when che gets back to us.

     

    So far they have not blocked it, its there in black and white in the prospectus, so you’ve got to give some kudos for that, its now up to shareholders.

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    AWE NAW

     

     

    Well,call me paranoid,but I doubt it was accidental.

  13. The CFCB will be chaired by José Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues. A former general prosecutor of the Portuguese Republic, Mr Cunha Rodrigues has been a judge at the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) since 2000. He will take office as of 8 October 2012, when he leaves the CJEU.

     

     

    Adjudicatory Chamber

     

    José Narciso da Cunha Rodrigues (POR), Chairman of the CFCB

     

    Christiaan Timmermans (NED), Vice-chairman of the CFCB

     

    Louis Peila (SUI), Vice-chairman of the CFCB

     

    Charles Flint (ENG), Member

     

    Adam Giersz (POL), Member

     

     

    Investigatory Chamber

     

    Jean-Luc Dehaene (BEL), Chief Investigator and Chairman of the Investigatory Chamber

     

    Jacobo Beltrán (ESP), Member

     

    Egon Franck (GER), Member

     

    Umberto Lago (ITA), Member

     

    Petros Mavroidis (GRE), Member

     

    Brian Quinn (SCO), Member

     

    Konstantin Sonin (RUS), Member

     

    Yves Wehrli (FRA), Member

     

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    Inside mole should be able to provide answers to how far the Board have taken it with UEFA CFCB.

     

     

    Paddy T

  14. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    scotlands shame

     

     

    09:10 on 15 October, 2013

     

     

    and all the others who dont get it.

     

     

    THE SFA IS THE EXACT SAME

     

     

    In fact it might even be emboldened by the fact that they can let their favoured team get away with debts that is measured in billions of pounds and this in the arena of Scottish football.

     

     

    AND AMAZINGLY that they can all remain in position with Celtic only expressing mild “surprise” .. except for Longmuir ..who did get a 400K handshake for his troubles. Is that more than what the combined clubs received from the SFL ?

  15. tommysbhoy

     

     

    08:54 on 15 October, 2013

     

     

    Morning all good to see jack n victor have made up and are on there way back..for any trolls lurking,this isnt code for green n whyte lol

     

    hh

     

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    Jack & Victor come-back sure makes my day brighter and brings hope that with their return we can go back to other pleasant things like white dog poo instead of the new brown stuff.

     

     

    Now that would be progress if we could get the dry white stuff back. Them was the days when stepping on dog poo was like stepping on sticks of white chalk!

  16. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    Scotlands Shame,

     

    I did not take offense, sorry if it came across like that, I was simply saying we wanted action not questions.

     

    Then I went into a frustrated rant about the bull we have been fed and the fact that many still beleve after all the evidence to the contrary, I know many intellegent people carry the hope but ignoring the past and current situation for jam tomorrow is stupid IMO

  17. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    BMCUWP,

     

    Could it be that the online voting was closed after DD voted

  18. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    CANAMALAR

     

     

    I certainly doubt it was closed before that.

     

     

    But,as I said,I might just be paranoid,who knows.

  19. Morning all from gay Paree, where weather is dry and bright.

     

     

    Another day, et encore une journée que Ally and his pals will shed some pounds.

     

     

    40 000 of them.

     

     

    A pittance, I hear you say BUT that’s circa £600 000 this month already, and there’s…

     

     

    No money coming in

     

    The rent collectors knocking, trying to get in

     

    On dead end street (yeah).

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS forza Oscar and Mackenzie on

    CANAMALAR

     

     

    Haha,I was paranoid long before it became trendy!

     

     

    Like a lot of us,tbh….

  21. Kitalba

     

     

    Justice demands a lot more than I suggested but we are not going to get that in my opinion.

     

     

    So next best thing is to tackle areas where injustice takes root.

     

     

    The stupidity of football never fails to amaze me. Any organisation of sense would at the very least conduct a lessons learned exercise to review its role in the unfolding of our game.

     

     

    The demand for it should come from the top down, not bottom up.

     

     

    In non footballing business it would be a no brainer.

  22. long haired yins man on

    Anybody noticed the guy with the hoops on showing on the front page of bbc.co.uk page..?

  23. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on

    “Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is humanity’s original virtue. It is through disobedience that progress has been made, through disobedience and through rebellion.” – Oscar Wilde, 1854-1900, from the Irish writer-poet’s 1891 essay, “The Soul of Man Under Socialism

  24. Auldheid

     

     

    09:40 on 15 October, 2013

     

     

    Kitalba

     

     

    Justice demands a lot more than I suggested but we are not going to get that in my opinion.

     

     

    So next best thing is to tackle areas where injustice takes root.

     

     

    The stupidity of football never fails to amaze me. Any organisation of sense would at the very least conduct a lessons learned exercise to review its role in the unfolding of our game.

     

     

    The demand for it should come from the top down, not bottom up.

     

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    Hubris born out of getting away with murder for years.

     

     

    They don’t have to change as they see it. Why should they everybody is happy with things the way they are!

  25. scotlands shame on

    Awe naw i get it don’t arrogantly presume ur only one to get it. Read my posts the cheating has went on for yrs. All the diddy teams told us we were paranoid an all they teams now stand bac an let Celtic get hands dirty. We Will always be accused of having ulterior motive, until the rest of Scottish clubs get involved nothin Will be done. Do u get that?

  26. Zbyszek mówi, trzymaj się Oscar on

    canamalar 08:52

     

     

    Yes , Kerala voting is strong argument that Communism is good. Good laugh.

     

    Similar to that question from Communism defenders – have you ever read Marx?

     

     

    Have you ever read “Mein Kampf”?

     

    Must be something good in it. Why not if many artists, cream of cream of Germany voted for Fascism. No?

     

    Nobody questions the fascism was disaster.Communism was no better.

     

    One shot man – Communism was good, that’s people who failed.

     

    Millions in Gulags – Communism was good, that’s people who failed.

     

    tens of millions killed, died becouse of starvation, other disasters – Communism was good, that’s people who failed.

     

     

    Again, same question to all who think the Communism was good. Why don’t you move to North Korea?

     

    Not going to continue this boring discussion.

  27. Artur Borac.

     

    Probably the best save I have ever seen was against wee Deek Riordan.

     

    Sorry I cant get the youtube link up as in bad reception area.

     

    If you cant remember it you should search it out

  28. scotlands shame on

    Im happy for guy like canamalar to do what he is doin as doin for right reasons. However there are some who want to bash board at ever turn an using this as an excuse. The board years ago decided to take a prudent route that short term may cost titles but long term had us prosper. The Huns went opposite got a couple of titles they wanted but look what it cost them, all the while the permanently raging on here blame lawell. They are flame to those titles look what it cost them. Yet as they are burning some here goin mental wanting Celtic to spend crazy an the whole speculate to accumulate. One of main reasons i don’t want a fan representative on board. U can’t get a whole supporters bus to agree on something so what wud be pt of board representative as they couldn’t possibly represent the fans as we are so diff, some wanted lawell throwing money bout like a pimp while many happy withthe financial approach bein taken.