This is the world Celtic has to operate in


There was a fascinating and completely unfounded angle to the Daily Record’s story today about Celtic’s forthcoming AGM, “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly”.

Oh no they don’t.  This is an incredible dose of poison to inject into the Celtic family.

The matter in question is a resolution before the AGM urging Celtic to write to the SFA and Uefa regarding club licencing for season 2011/12.  As a result of this resolution Celtic’s written response to the AGM confirms that they questioned the SFA’s licensing at the time directly with the Association, a fact which had not previously been revealed.  The matter was also raised with Uefa.  Both bodies backed the SFA actions.

I knew how this played out at the time and I was keen for the matter to reach the AGM, where questions could be asked and responses given, but lines like “Celtic’s directors insist Rangers were dealt with fairly” are put out just to mess with you.

The Record addresses another point in the same article, “the Scottish champions are also acutely aware of how official action would heighten tensions between fans of the two clubs”.  If you think Charles Green was the only one on the receiving end of threats and intimidation last year, when these matters came to light, you’re wrong.

Celtic pursued the licencing question as far as they were permitted to do, this is quite different than insisting Rangers (sic) were dealt with fairly.  The SFA are not interested and Uefa are not interested.  As a result of this resolution, this issue can be properly examined in front of the supporters.

The club’s public comments, or often, the lack of public comments, put the safety of their employees and supporters, which was already acutely in focus, first.  Not so long ago office staff at Celtic had to go through training on how to open the mail following specific attacks.

Despite popular mythology, Celtic don’t control the SFA, re-orientating that organisation will take a while.  The issue of licensing in 2011 was pursued as far as the club were allowed to do so.  Get along to the AGM, look the board in the eye and ask your questions on this.  Celtic also have a responsibility – and a lot of formal security advice – to staff, each other and all of us when it comes to public comment.  This is the world Celtic has to operate in.  The sooner we are out of here the better.

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    Scotland has the fifth highest average attendance as percentage of population in Europe


    Not a catchy ditty to sing from the terrace but some top analysis from @RossFootball.

  2. Auldheid:



    trust me mate, it doesn’t matter where you wander, if your passion, your hopes, your faiths, if they are sincere and dearly held, then distance from distress will not lessen or solace your concerns, if the truth be known, it may just aggravate them ever so much more.

  3. cliftonville celt from belfast praying for Oscar the wee legend on

    Why the reaction to the McCann case discussion last night ?



    Feel it is a bit much to call people huns and scumbags for expressing their views – given that a child was stolen it is a very emotive subject as a lot of people have children/grandchildren of simlar ages.



    Bringing the blog to a new low I don’t think so – this is a forum for debate if you don’t agree with peoples view’s please don’t resort to name calling.

  4. As a wee change of pace, I think I’ll be watching the Engerland/Polska game tonight. Might get a wee turnover of EPL boys. Am surprised Poland are not in the hunt to qualify. They have some excellent players; especially the Dortmund boys. Maybe the Holy Goalie


    will put it to them :-)))

  5. scullybhoy:



    back in days of yore, when the liquidated (almost) huns were in the SPL, pro-rata, the SPL had the highest attendance figures for any football code in any country.

  6. bournesouprecipe


    10:58 on


    15 October, 2013


    John O’Neil



    I believe that in the first half either Mochan or Tully hit the post.

  7. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on



    To be honest, because of what richie and a few others have said ie humanity and interpretation I dont think it could work any other way, politicians and rulers need to be kept uncertain to make them work properly for the electorate/people. There is only one ideology that puts the community first if that is done properly and under proper scrutiny by an educated electorate then many other economic ideas can be accommodated

  8. gallowgate mad squad on

    canamalar prays Oscar can do it again


    10:58 on


    15 October, 2013


    Mr Z…,


    The correct meaning of the word bigot is someone who refuses to acknowledge/accept there is a counter argument, dont get lost in the common mistake that its a religious expression, there are religious bigots, sectarian bigots and political bigots, political bigots who dont accept counter arguments by definition are totalitarian.


    I myself am a bigot on a few subjects one being child abuse, I could never listen to any argument promoting that.








    Don’t worry, I don’t think you’ll encounter many pedophile lobby groups!!!!

  9. Richie #TeamOscar on

    gallowgate mad squad



    You’re quite right…but I know of one mob who are obsessed with the subject.

  10. From the Daily Record of the day:




    Scottish League Cup final: Celtic 7 Rangers 1, Saturday, October 19, 1957


    11 Feb 2009 13:40



    WHAT A CELTIC JOY DAY. And but for the acrobatic Niven – and the wood round the Rangers door – it might have been double figures.







    And but for the acrobatic Niven – and the wood round the Rangers door – it might have been double figures.



    Don’t blame Celtic for piling it on. They couldn’t help themselves – so they had to help themselves, if you see what I mean.



    This was a Rangers team with hardly one redeeming feature.






    McColl and Davis played with the very fear of death in their boots. I don’t blame them.



    Up front, the heavy-footed Simpson and Baird took too long to do too little.



    Murray was imply brushed aside by Evans – and the wingers, from whom so much was expected, seemed content to appear more or less as mourners.



    I don’t know when I have seen a more disgraceful exhibition from any Rangers team – especially one parading as League Champions and carrying Scottish hopes in the European Cup.






    The fact that must stick in Rangers throats is that they were flattened by the very thing they themselves so badly lack – PURE UNADULTERATED FOOTBALL.



    Mark that word “unadulterated”. Celtic kept playing the BALL all the time. That stemmed from confidence in themselves.



    At the first smell of defeat, some Ibrox men adulterated any skill they had with the physical – a desperation that signposts defeat.



    There are limits to what the bulldozing attack can accomplish, apart from a natural distaste in the mind of the spectator.






    From the very start, it was obvious that Celtic had nothing in their mind but to play that ball – and, if possible, to be first to it.



    In the 13th minute Bobby Collins hit a 26 yards ‘free’ which came cracking off the crossbar with Niven, seeing it all the way, apparently hypnotised.



    Then Tully dribbled round Valentine and Cladow near the bye-line and crashed the ball against the near post off which it flew right across goal and past the other post.



    Right now, some Rangers defenders shook like they were operating pneumatic drills.



    At the other end, Scott and Hubbard raised the Ibrox hopes with an odd flying scurry – only to prove that Celtic were as tight in defence as they were free and open in attack.



    Then Mochan forced a corner off Shearer. When it came over it was weakly headed out. Wilson wheeled round and hooked it fiercely into the net.



    Rangers long passing thrusts didn’t bother Evans and Co. much. And in any case it was sticking out a mile that young Beattie was nly likely to be beaten by a shot of the unsaveable kind.



    Right on the interval, Celtic nailed their victory down with a corker of a score.



    An old-fashioned solo-burst from Neilly Mochan took the ball down wing. He cut along the bye-line beating two defenders cleverly on the way, then slammed the ball into the net from an ‘impossible’ angle.



    That was the striking thing about Celts. When one type of attack failed to register, they had the men to try another.



    Rangers didn’t have one forward who looked like he could emulate Mochan. Cartainly neither winger ever threatened to do it.




    This was the most valuable goal of the lot – coming just on the break. And before the taste of the half time lemon had left their palate, Rangers were three down.



    Collins hoisted a long, high ball into the goalmouth. No apparent danger. Till McPhail rose above Valentine, Niven, the lot – and nodded almost apologetically into the net.



    Celts were now looking a bit taken aback with the ease of their scores.



    Rangers now had Murray limping on the left wing with Simpson at centre and Hubbard partnering Scott.



    And the only thing that this proved was that Simpson was certainly more dangerous in the middle than anywhere else. For he threw himself into the air to bullet a great header past Beattie from a McColl cross.



    Rangers wing-halves moved up to the attack. McColl hit the cross bar with a ‘free’. Then Baird was cautioned.



    The Light Blues kept Celts penned in for a time, while they weaved this way and that without finding another loophole – then Mochan raced away and forced another corner.



    The unmarked Wilson headed it low for goal. NIven fell on it and palmed it out to McPhail’s feet for an easy fourth.



    You felt Rangers could thrash themselves to fury all round that Celtic goal area and bring out nothing but sweat – while Celtic could fly away, winkle out the obvious short cuts at the other end and do the needful.



    The truth was, of course, they had a better defence than Rangers and a much better attack. Just as simple as that.



    Eventually it got monotonous. Wilson, after some tricky, smooth football on the right side swept the ball away towards Mochan on the corner of the area. He smacked it and it bounded into the net.






    Instance: the sixth. Beattie clears from hand to midfield where only McPhail and Valentine are located.




    Billy wins in the air, hits ground, races away half the length of the field and pokes the ball past a bewildered Niven. The rout was almost complete.



    In the dying moments, Fernie slotted a penalty kick home for a tackled by Shearer on McPhail after the centre had again licked Valentine and was on a cert.



    It’s as difficult to pick out a star Celt as to pick out a star Ranger. Celts had eleven. Rangers none.



    Only men I felt sorry for in the Ibrox side were the wing halves, who had so much of the commonplace around them.



    Every Celtic player did well, none more so than young Donnelly and Sean Fallon.



    Willie Fernie was the most distinguished ball-worker afield, some of his fantastic dribbling runs at speed tearing the very heart out of the Gers.



    Evans was terrific too and, with Peacock, completed the gerat hinge upon which the game flowed Celtic’s way.



    I must pick out the graceful Billy McPhail for a display of centre forward play, the ease of which was as misleadng as it was deadly.



    Celtic: Beattie, Donnelly, Fallon, Fernie, Evans, Peacock, Tully, Collins, McPhail, Wilson, Mochan.



    Rangers: Niven, Shearer, Caldow, McColl, Valentine, Davis, Scott, Simpson, Murray, Baird, Hubbard.



    Referee: Mowat.

  11. canamalar prays Oscar can do it again on



    A recent US crime police show did an episode and the crime was child abuse, towards the end of the show the pedophile appeared to be given a sympathetic hearing on that show, to me this is the beginning of the normalisation process. Very sinister.

  12. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on




    they should take those discussions to a place where it belongs. This is Celtic quick news. It has nothing to do with football or Celtic and all it did was stifle a good debate. It was the perfect example of the uneducated mornoic fraternity. If they thought this was the place to dicuss debate that particular subject then the label still holds.



    No apologies forthcoming from me … take your emotive stuff where it belongs. Its called being civilised.




  13. cliftonville celt from belfast praying for oscar the wee legend



    11:11 on 15 October, 2013



    If the discussion on the McCann’s has taught me anything it’s people’s view on child care differ greatly from my own, if that makes me hunnish what ever that is then so be it. Time to give this place a miss for a while HH

  14. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on





    Just catching up.Ive been round the block a bit, and been called a few things in the past, never have I been called a hun in my life.




  15. The current debate about the Board and Canalamar’s resolution seves to highlight a problem that will haunt Celtic for years to come.


    That is that the Board and those holding the majority of shares are singing from a different hymn sheet from that of many of the fans and the majority of shareholders.


    No matter how they dress it up, the Board is happy to go along with the Old Firm tag and cannot wait for THEM to get into the top flight. And inn order to achieve this, it will do absolutely nothing to rock the boat.


    On the other hand a large number of fans would be happy to see THEM in whatever shape or form consigned to oblivion. The sooner the better.

  16. bournesouprecipe:



    How could they possibly ever recover from that day. We beat more than Rangers on that occasion.

  17. Camalar, that process started years ago. Some Marxists/loony lefties wanted to help such fiends. It was one reason why Garry Bushell became a fervent right winger.

  18. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on

    John O Neil



    John, I know what you mean.Comming from some of my favourite posters too, maybe see them in a different light, but at the end of the day, I just dont understand where their angst is comming from.




  19. gallowgate mad squad on

    Richie #TeamOscar


    11:20 on


    15 October, 2013


    gallowgate mad squad



    You’re quite right…but I know of one mob who are obsessed with the subject.





    Yes, I was banned from follow follow for daring to refer to celtic as anything other than bheasts. The dehumanising of celtic supporters on that site is incredible. It can’t be healthy for them, or us.

  20. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Yeah all those that wish to discuss the Mc Canns should bigger off to the Daily Star website for a long while preferably




  21. Richie #TeamOscar on

    Title of a thread over on ole fallow fallow:



    “The latest from simple Paul Brennan, whom we all know is the fetid conduit used by Lawwell to spout the vitriol he’s too scared to put his own name to”




    What follows is a transcript of the current article follow followed by a mix of vulgar hunnery, paranoia, and comedy gold!



    …fetid conduit….bet you’re feeling humbled Paul




  22. Richie #TeamOscar on

    Emotions run high on emotive subjects.



    Time for an Independence debate! (or is that independance?)




  23. A wee thought for those quick to condemn the McCanns.


    How many people in our drink and substance orientated culture can heart on hand claim that they have never tucked the kids up in bed, then cracked open a bottle, lit a joint, jagged up or had a sniff and were soon rendered incapable of doing anything for their kids.



    The McCanns and their other two kids will live for long many a day with consequences of their actions and subsequent guilt.


    Indeed, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.

  24. thomthethim for Oscar OK on




    Whilst we were handing out a leathering at Hampden, my Boys Guild team were on the receiving end of a 13 – 0 hammering from DT. Catherine’ Labore at Cowlairs.



    We were only two down at half time, but in the second half, the Hampden game came on the radio. The guy with the tranny was standing beside me, at the left back position.



    We ended up with about nine left backs that day, as most of our team drifted over to my side of the pitch to listen in.






    I only, under duress, took the pictures off my bedroom wall when I got married thirteen years later.

  25. cliftonville celt from belfast praying for Oscar the wee legend on

    Awe naw



    What has Communisim got to do with Celtic ?


    Scotlands Independence ?


    How to make cheese on toast ?


    Breaking Bad ?



    This is a blog for discussion among supposedly like minded people the centre of the discussion is Celtic and it will always return to that but many other things are also discussed and that is why the blog is so unique



    Your post at 11.35 is disgusting and that is all I’ll say on the matter please do not reply

  26. kitalba, a long departed friend of mine by the name of John Murphy (aka Paddy Reilly) came from the small mining village of Blairhall in Fife and of course knew George Niven who would have been about the same age as “Reilly”.



    Reilly was, like of Celtic sympathies, and was a pawky character who introduced me to George Niven on about 6 ocassions.



    He did this when Geordie ventured into the Bruce Tavern in Dunfermline where Reilly held court at the time and was my local.



    Reilly was always very polite when introducing me, and started by saying “George I would like you to meet a young friend of mine; then Tam I don’t think you have met George Niven, he used to play in goals for your teams main rivals, the Rangers”.



    The rest of that sentance was left unsaid, hanging in the air while Reilly would go on to praise his village neighbour’s goalkeeping ability in glowing terms.



    The whince on George Niven’s face told me that he was waiting for me, or Reilly, to make reference to the 7-1, which of course we wouldn’t have done.



    It would have been crass and anyway all three knew that we had done this “first” introduction before, as well as we knew the sub script that was left unspoken.



    Such was the fame of that 7-1 triumph we all knew the score and the keeper’s name.

  27. lilys grandpa-Me and Lily backing Oscar on

    FTAO, Jimmy Qiunns Biits



    Thanks for posting that version of Raglan Rd last night. Youll be delighted to know I never got to bed till about 4, just sat and repeated!! haha



    You atheists are all the same;), Thanks again mate.




  28. quonno



    11:43 on 15 October, 2013



    ‘A wee thought for those quick to condemn the McCanns.


    How many people in our drink and substance orientated culture can heart on hand claim that they have never tucked the kids up in bed, then cracked open a bottle, lit a joint, jagged up or had a sniff and were soon rendered incapable of doing anything for their kids.’







    I’d like to think most posters on here could answer that in the affirmative.