Tierney our best in decades, but not on strategy

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My suspicion is that paper talk about Kieran Tierney returning to Celtic is a consequence of a story from The Athletic that Arsenal have declined to extend his contract beyond summer 2025.

The player, who has made 20 league starts for Arsenal and Real Sociedad since picking up an injury in March 2022, will be 28 in the summer and will know he will not be offered a contract on his current terms anywhere.

Kieran is the best left back we have had in decades but he not a fit for our development model.  You know the rules, if you want to maximise success on the football field, you need to wholly commit to a sustainable development strategy.

A place in the squad, budget and a regular starting slot are all scarce resources we have to devote to build the football club.  A player in the Celtic squad should be someone we can improve and who can increase in value while here.

Exceptions are allowed: short-term stop gaps, or a truly exceptional talent who can make a disproportionate impact, but Kieran is neither of these.  His talent and injury record suggests he will be offered a decent contract in the EPL as a squad player, there to cover another left back.

A great talent, though he is, if Celtic dedicate a slot in the squad and a first team wage to Kieran, it will be a sign that the sun has set on our period of improvement.  Our opponents have no control over when our Generations of Domination will end, all they can do is wait for Celtic getting soft and making mistakes.

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  1. ‘VAR failed to come to correct conclusion’

     

    And Collum added: “The referee’s awarded the free-kick on field, he sees the pulling, he’s correctly judged the incident in terms of the foul play.

     

     

    “But then the VAR team need to go into a check and they need to decide whether this incident is inside or outside and ultimately, they failed to come to the correct conclusion, which is this should’ve been a factual overturn.

     

     

    “No need for the referee to go to the monitor – a factual overturn for a penalty kick to be awarded.”

     

     

    More to follow.

     

     

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    hahahahahaa

     

     

    the sweetest thing.

  2. bournesouprecipe on

    Well done the family of ‘setting free the bears’ celebrating a life well lived, what gift’s he has left behind.

     

     

    R.I.P Tony Gillespie true Celt 🇮🇪

  3. ‘VAR failed to come to correct conclusion’

     

     

     

     

    And Collum added: “The referee’s awarded the thrown in , he correctly awards the shy to Rangers, but Aitken the Celtic player, takes it quickly, and the referee plays on

     

     

    this leads to the celtic goal, unfairly.

     

     

     

     

     

    More to follow.

  4. ‘VAR failed to come to correct conclusion’

     

     

     

     

    And Collum added: “The referee’s awarded the penalty on field, but the ball hits johnstones knee, and then his hands, both hands is irrelevant, there was no where to place them so ball hits hands,

     

     

     

    “No need for the referee to go to the monitor – a factual overturn for a penalty kick to be awarded.”

     

     

    and game restrated with a free kick to rangers.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    More to follow.

  5. I’m with you on this one Paulo.

     

    I think it’s easy to get inebriated (no slur BRRB) on the romance of KT (one of us) returning homewards.

     

    But at any likely wage level for him, we need an ever-present and not a Xmas present.

     

     

    I still like the lad Corrie Ndaba at Killie and wur ain youngblud – Matthew Anderson – on loan at Admira Wacker.

  6. I think we have space for one or two players of his profile, but at the right price for what they are likely to add, with the impact it has on the wage bill being so important. And after the Summer we need to concentrate on the sort of players Paul67 talks about.

     

     

    We have pretty good idea how this will likely play out though: Brendan wants him, but a deal cant be done that suits KT and Celtic, and the saga it turns into gets added to the list of failures by our incompetent board. If BR doesnt leverage the hell out of his position I’d be amazed.

  7. March 2022, will be 28 in the summer and will know he will not be offered a contract on his current terms anywhere.

     

     

    villa, newcastle, united, even spurs.

     

     

    i would suggest all could pay those levels for an international player

  8. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Kasper didn’t fit the model either, remember?

     

    Surely a player has value beyond what he is sold for? Surely there is value in what he provides while he is here? Contributing to winning trophies, CL qualification and (hopefully!) progression. All of that brings in money.

  9. Maybe Celtic like Everton should look for big investors to take over our club and stop all this nonsense ex players and Managers coming back

  10. On Gollum’s comments.. still none of them have acknowledged that had rangers played half the match with ten men (as they should have done after the 44th minute assault on Kuhn), it probably wouldn’t have gone to extra time, rendering the Scales challenge irrelevant, as it would not have happened in that scenario. And if the whole ball has to be across the whole of the line to be in the goal, then surely the whole of the player has to be across the whole of the line to be in the penalty area?!

  11. SAINT STIVS on 19TH DECEMBER 2024 12:22 PM

     

    did anyone watch kieran last night ?

     

     

    I did. He looked comfortable and one of the better players on the pitch but Arteta was losing his stuff with him about not playing higher up the pitch, he did seem to want to stay back more than the other full back who was ahead of the winger for a lot of the game.

  12. Always loved Tierney, he totally gets what it is to be a Celt.

     

    When he signed for the Gunners I spoke with one of their fans. Told him that they were getting a top class player, however you will not get a full sesaon out of him. The truth has always been that the lad has a weak groin, always prone to injury.

     

    The way Kieran plays, bombing down the wing and then sprinting bsck, leaves him wide open to the type of recurring injury that has plagued him for most of his career.

     

    Re the “penalty”, could someone tell me, if the pull starts outside the box and continues onto the line or into the box, is it a penalty or a free from where the drag started ?

     

     

    Bhreith lá shona dhuit, Big Jimmy.

     

    May all your horses have wings today.

  13. I think KT would play for us for free to ne honest.

     

     

    To everyone who responded re my ” wee Primcess ” my grand daughter, very many thanks , really appreciated

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  14. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    Re fire sale at O*d F**m FC ….

     

     

    …. saw a headline about an in demand R2ngers star and (genuinely) couldn’t figure out who this could be.

     

     

    It’s Igamane then?

     

     

    Oh well.

     

     

    Let me guess …

     

     

    “R2ngers have told suitors that it will take a huge offer to prise their star striker away from the club”

     

     

    So, he’ll be at Auchenhowie for training on 04 February then (unless he’s injured of course)

  15. and onto to Collum.

     

     

    I like the idea of transparency, and more insight to how decisions are arrived at, and I have watched all the VAR reviews and they are interesting, however, the bold willie comes across to me as one of those bosses who cannot be pleased, but also changes the narrative to suit whatever that months hottest topic is.

     

     

    I am persuaded that the Rangers stream of penalties awarded for (15 last season) and none against has dried up because the VAR decision making has been enforced to call them correctly, and ambiguity taken out.

     

     

    Now having said that Willie in November said this – about a penalty awarded –

     

     

    “first of all decision making takes far too long, it has to be quicker, what is obvious first, on this occasion VAR takes too long and analysdis to to detailed and still comes to the wrong decision”

     

     

    “the stakeholders have told us, they do not want analysis of holding in the box as it is only relevant on the player impacted by direction f the ball”.

     

     

    this month –

     

     

    “VAR makes the decision on the rangers non-penalty to fast with not enough analysis”

     

     

    “the offense is a holding offense started outside the box, continues into the box and ARGUABLY is over the line and in the box”

     

     

    “but the referee spotted a fould and correctly awarded one”

     

     

    so what was the clear and obvious error to be overturned by VAR ?

     

     

    and as everyone says – what about the other missed VAR calls during the game, the fould that should have been a sending off ? the 2nd yelllow cards not given, celtic players getting held at corners.

     

     

    what a crock of shit.

     

     

    i am having to drive past the badgers hovel this afternnon, the worlds must succesful club, fals advertising but it has always been thus.

  16. So, if Willie explains why it’s a penalty, that’s all good by me. Greater transparency along with correct and unbiased decision making will, in the long run, benefit every other club more than Sevco. I look forward to Brendan highlighting, in particular, why Balogun stayed on the park in his next press conference to show how one decision has been hijacked by Sevco and the press to paint a one sided picture of how the match was officiated. More worrying for me is how the standside linesman has escaped scrutiny in all of this. His performance from the first minute clearly favoured one team and it was not us.

  17. GlassTwoThirdsFull on 19th December 2024 12:22 pm

     

    Kasper didn’t fit the model either, remember?

     

     

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    I agree we should employ a mix of bright young things and robust seasoned pros.

     

    But shirley any deal for those with a decidedly blighted injury record (which Kacper never had) would need to be at a very flexible hiring rate (ie pro-rata) – and that may not suit a player like KT still attarctive to a host aof cashed-up clubs in the EPL or west and east asian leagues.

     

    I would take Andy Robertson back quicker than KT; just as good a player imo, and more available and durable.

  18. a pure random question for our friends in the north.

     

     

    I see Harlaand and Wolfe being rescued by a Spanish firm.

     

     

    How is that going down with the East Belfast communities ? saved by the armada, only taken 400 odd years.

     

     

    and, in a similar vein, in modern belfast are any catholics employed at H&W ?

  19. I’d take KT back and use the sales of Kwon, Yang, Palma, Holm and Nawrocki to make it happen. An injury prone KT would still make a more telling contribution than all the intake just listed.

  20. Saint Stivs, and what about rangers getting EIGHT yellow cards?

     

     

    Didn’t teams used to get fined for failing to control their players if they got more than 5 yellow cards?

     

     

    That said, clearly their tactic was to intimidate Celtic’s players by persistently fouling them. And they were obviously fully in control of their players, as they ensured that no one player committed two nasty fouls, thereby drawing a second yellow card and being sent off.

     

     

    But the poor Huns were the victims in all this. And Celtic still won the trophy! 🤣

  21. Kelvinbhoy on 19th December 2024 1:08 pm

     

     

    the standside linesman,

     

     

    how long did the rangers players take at each throw in, and how many were taken where the ball was put of of play,

  22. celtic40me- thanks for reply, I don’t think his agent would have any say in KT retiring from International football, imo his long term injuries, pelvis, groin, are a result of being overplayed at Celtic

  23. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Quadrophenian 1:09

     

    I wasn’t necessarily saying we should go for Tierney (I can see both sides of the argument). It was more a general point about the types of players we should be considering. Definitely should have a balanced approach.

  24. I’ll add Liegerbielke to my list too. £13 million of non contributors under the sacred strategy…

  25. Saint Stivs on 19th December 2024 1:16 pm

     

     

    Exactly, all these things completely ignored in the rush to focus on ‘penalty’. We could also add in the kicking away of the ball after almost every foul they conceded. Let’s get them to run through the whole game and we’ll see who was unfairly reffed and has the greater gripe with the officials.

  26. P67- really don’t agree that we would start going backwards if we signed KT.FWIW I would take him on loan in January and see if he goes injury free till end of the season, and take if from there.

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