In his Q&A session with the Daily Record yesterday, outgoing SPFL chairman, Ralph Topping touched on the subject of who knew what when, regarding Rangers slide into liquidation saying:
“There wasn’t one single person ever who envisaged this case happening. You tell me who pointed out that this was going to happen – did you?
“The biggest assumption about the set-up in the SPL would be that you would have Rangers and Celtic playing in it in perpetuity – nobody thought that those two bastions of football would ever be involved in anything like this and nobody flagged it up.”
Well, in October 2011 I knew. This CQN article from 27 October 2011 notes in very specific detail Rangers were going to liquidate, a phoenix would be created which wanted direct access to the SPL (the top flight at that time). I got the timing wrong, predicting the phoenix would take place during the season, but to be fair, it later became clear this was Craig Whyte’s plan at the time.
Ralph Topping’s SPL knew too. Rangers alerted them to the situation that very month. The SPL spend November, December and January preparing the ground for Rangers administration and liquidation, a period during which a new TV deal was signed.
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NEIL DONCASTER AND THE BIRTH OF MONSTER MYTHS..
.http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/?p=38135
John James seems to be confirming what we knew all along, that LNS was a sham. The football authorities had apparently already decided to strip Rangers of the trophies during the EBT years. It was an open and shut case. Rules were broken, end of.
Why is CQN continuing to publish articles around the corruption while simultaneously colluding with lawwell behind all our backs?
Answers anyone?
Cognitive dissonance?
Squirrels?
Or just part of the efforts to hide the corruption?
Rangers’ players out of control, snide whispers and angry finger-jabbing in the technical area =Scottish Government summit.
Biggest Scandal in history of British Sport = no comment, no nothing.
To be fair every big Club in world football will have targeted wee Karamoko. That boy is going all the way.
The article referred to in the CQN magazine link
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/the-curious-case-of-the-cancelled-kelty-hearts-testimonial-and-why-it-blows-open-the-rangers-continuity-myth/
rosenborg will be keen to keep our favourite’s tag – they must believe, and their fans must, that they can score a couple against us – this will help us as will them playing up the park . Without paddy, lg, moussa we couldn’t do much when they had their 11 players in their own half.
Damn these ‘HHaters’, hiding behind their tissue of truth.
PARKHEADCUMSALFORD on 30TH JULY 2017 9:34 AM
Tried to watch the game on Celtic TV. In the first half in particular, the stream was constantly buffering. The alternative stream offered worked well except that it was always blur. Is this normal for live broadcast matches?
It’s normal in my experience. Very poor.
Ernie,
Or one might say that when the mighty Rangers ripped off Newcastle and ripped off Her Majesty they took their larceny across the border…
and,
‘But Boumsong smelled a rat back then. And it’s rankled with him ever since.
In an interview with Record Sport here at Euro 2012 he said: “My salary was normally paid but there was a trust. I was not comfortable with that to be honest. I didn’t know anything about it until the day I was going to sign.
“When I discovered it I first refused to sign the contract and said, ‘What is this?’
“I didn’t want to sign because it seemed strange, we don’t have that kind of payment in France and I didn’t know anything about it. When I left Rangers, for example, to sign for Newcastle, it was for a normal contract with normal payment.”
Daily Ranger, Mr Keith Jackson 18th June 2012
‘My salary’ Mr Jackson? Doesn’t that contradict what we were told this week?
Till Later
GLENDALYSTONSILS.
Pretty poor show. You would think they would have sorted that kind of thing out long ago.
Werz the government?
A fair question
Wee Nikla an their wee cabal were out the loop when Dos n ebts were devised by Tory donor murray.
But Gordon Broon and his 2tone heid apprentice were steering city policy during this time.
Anyway they are truly corrupt -govts I mean.say nothin bout bankers bail out but charge us and call it austerity.
HH
Chairbhoy
Sound posting today.thanks
The(5WA) 2 rangers agreement needs broke.
Also the dissolution of SPL .
Find it unsettling big Rod seems to be obfuscating a bit
For one who started hunting down corruption he seems well on MesYsaTge
HH
Big Kouassi was impressive yesterday, strong, quick passer and a bit of presence about him.The Dark Destroyer.
CQN MAGAZINE @ 11:04 AM,
That’s a great piece and shows the ridiculous nature of the owner and operator distinction.
When you look at LNS interpretation of the “Club” when it was decided for whom to Sanction for the breach in disclosure it is interesting…
“Taking into account these considerations, we have decided to impose a fine of £250,000 on Oldco. It is the board of directors of Oldco as a company, as distinct from the football management or players of Rangers FC as a club, which appears to us to bear the responsibility for the breaches of the relevant rules. All the breaches which we have found were therefore clearly committed by Oldco. We see no room or need for separate findings of breaches by Rangers FC, which was not a separate legal entity and was then part (although clearly in football and financial terms the key part) of the undertaking of Oldco. Rangers FC is of course now owned and by Newco.
Okay, so let’s look at this…
as distinct from the football management or players of Rangers FC as a club,
Now, what LNS is describing here is a Football Team, right, he’s saying that it’s the Clubs Board of Directors that bear the responsibility.
So what does this mean, well if we take non-disclosure as a Breach it is a Footballing Breach, correct.
I.e. If my boss decided to give me an additional side contract with say a bonus, as long as it’s legitimately agreed and statutory compliant, they nor I don’t have any legal responsibility to disclose it to anyone; professional body, work mate, partner whomever. It’s mine and their business.
Not if I work as a Football Player though, my Club has to lodge this with the League and Governing Body as specified in the Rules.
So this only applies to Football Rules and Regulations NOT Company Law. This Breach was simply Contractual Between the Club, Rangers FC and the SPL Limited.
So on an explicitly Footballing matter concerning the Club, why was Oldco sanctioned and not the Club? They’re saying because the breach wasn’t the Football Teams? What Nonsense.
But it gets worse…
We see no room or need for separate findings of breaches by Rangers FC, which was not a separate legal entity
What happened to the Owner and Operator, and Club. Why ALL the Oldco, Newco (which was never under SPL rules anyway) distinction nonsense.
You are now saying what we all know, what is the truth, the Owner and Operator, and the Club are one in the same and when applying the rules no separation is necessary.
So we have in the one document…
– Rangers FC – the one legal entity. One Entity
– Rangers FC – The Owner and Operator, and The Club. Two Entities
– Rangers FC – The Owner and Operator, the The Club and The Football Team. Three Entities.
Whit!!!
Let’s think about it, maybe it does make sense…
Obviously these entities are not mutually exclusive and can be used in any or all, partly or together to construct a legal or non legal entity deciding on what’s expedient for Rangers FC.
So maybe that explains this…
Q: If there was another insolvency event at Ibrox would that be considered as a first or second offence?
ROD McKENZIE: “Second. As it stands. There is a time period between insolvency events which I think is five years. So it might not now be 25 points. I think it is a five-year period between, and if you have a further insolvency event within the five year period then you get a further 25 point deduction. At Rangers in 2011 was the administration but they went into liquidation in 2012. We are just still within the five year period.”
Hail Hail
!!BADA BING!! on 30TH JULY 2017 12:04 PM
I thought he was MOTM. Up against the thug Cattermole he never reacted to his late tackles and sly kicks and just dominated him. Won the ball, passed forward to a Celtic player. Simple.
STARRY PLOUGH on 30TH JULY 2017 11:03 AM
‘deep down the huns know themselves to be traitors to their own..’
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Their own what?
AN TEARMANN @ 12:03 PM,
Cheers…
JJ has an article on the 5WA, he seems to be implying the opposite of what I thought, I.e. The document prevented title stripping.
According to his piece it’s the opposite.
This Document needs exposed and expunged.
Hail Hail
Still can’t get the Stuart Armstrong song from yesterday out my head. Must have sung it for 10-15 minutes non stop.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKH2ujwbKc
ERNIE LYNCH
Ernie I haven’t got a spoon big enough to feed you so why don’t you divert the debate with someone else or failing that post something loving and interesting or at least about Celtic..
The debate was about the situation Scottish Football finds itself in, this you know and if you want to nit pick my ramblings go ahead but at least out yourself as a Celtic supporter lest you not be taken seriously…
Or do you have another reason for shifting the focus?
I post from my heart Ernie with all my failings so shoot me down like wot you is wont to do..
This
is Number 1 when I go to Youtubes homepage.
Magic, Absolutely.
https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/891609039955734529?s=08
BBC GOSSIP
Barca reporting PSG to UEFA about FFP with regards NEYMAR
Neymars dad saying dont sign him until fter 31 July because he gets a $23.3mil
bonus for setting up last contract after that date.
UEFA looking at Man City for FFP following £220mil spend
Anybody reporting Zombies ?
So given the Kelty Hearts cancellation in July 2012, and the reason for it, ( the ‘club’ due to play didn’t exist yet), for the Continuity Myth to work, this would have to be science fact, not fiction.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2010/oct/21/day-earth-stood-still-wise
!!BADA BING!! on 30TH JULY 2017 12:04 PM
Big Kouassi was impressive yesterday, strong, quick passer and a bit of presence about him.The Dark Destroyer.
MOTM for me.A superb player and athlete.I have a feeling he could be the daddy of them all.His passing forward to men in space is superb.
Dont get into a spat with Ernie.The slightest mention of anything Scottish,however obscure,has him on his Unionist high horse.
Kouassi – thought he looked much fitter than we have seen in the past, he was getting about the pitch. From the off he was pressing everything that moved, looking like the destroyer we thought he would be. What really impressed me was his range of passing and his ability to set the tempo. He was passing forward through the lines, taking 2 and 3 opposition player out of the game. Long passes, short passes, in the air, on the ground, outside of the foot, he had it all. Really looking forward to seeing him play again.
jc2 on 30th July 2017 12:33 pm
BBC GOSSIP
………………………………………..
Barca reporting PSG to UEFA about FFP with regards NEYMAR
Neymars dad saying dont sign him until fter 31 July because he gets a $23.3mil
bonus for setting up last contract after that date.
UEFA looking at Man City for FFP following £220mil spend
Anybody reporting Zombies ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Barca are every bit corrupt as Real.
Airlines, Governments.
The Beautiful game is finished.
Money is the Lever.
“I’d never Leave her.”
Javier Solana is a globalist, dislike the guy immensely.
TTR,
I know it is Leftfield, and I didnae see the game yesterday, I’d put KE/EK up front if we dinnae have LG or Moussa Dembele.
Those Norwegians were so lucky not having to face a high pressing Celtic side. There are so many mistakes in their defence if they are pressed hard.
I thought Scottie was outstanding when the chips were not up. He worked tirelessly.
Njoi Wednesday. We will Win.
Qatari Sports will pay Neymar 300m euro to be an ambassador for the 2022 World Cup. Contract signed in Qatar so 0% tax.
Neymar then pays Barca 222m euro to buy out his contract. Neymar keeps 78m euro cut for himself.
Then PSG will sign him on a free.
PSG will pay him 30m euro per year plus bonuses in 6 year deal.
And thats FFP for you.
Talking about reporting clubs to UEFA, I wonder if any of FK Zeta, Red Star Belgrade, Stuttgart, Lyon, Barcelona, Panathinaikos, Werder Bremen, Sporting Lisbon and Fiorentina feel like enquiring about money lost playing against a team with improperly registered players?
And that’s just the 2007-8 season.
Canofwormscsc.
Petec
His temperament is untested under the kind of pressure we will experience on Wednesday. Too risky.
Shocking reporting by The Hootsmon on the trouble in Sunderland.
The Parkhead club were in the north east for a so-called ‘friendly’ match to celebrate 20 years since the opening of Sunderland FC’s Stadium of Light.
However, even before kick-off, social media became awash with images of fans in green and white Hoops brawling with locals and police officers in the town centre.
Only further down the article does it get to the truth of the matter.
An eye witness said”The Celtic fans were filling all of the bars and having a great time.Then a busload of thugs arrived and started attacking fans.
TTR,
I know what you are saying and I doubt it will happen anyway. Being a forward would keep him out of the engine room. It was only ever about the engine. The Tom thing didnae work whatsoever.
Can we get Neymar on the Brexit negotiating ‘team’?
brilliant g67 – great crowd – poor mackems !
They are very Limited defensively when put under Real pressure, IMO of course.
Given that Manchester City has spent more on its defence this year that 45 countries have on military defense, it looks like FFP is dead in the water. The Neymar-PSG deal seems to be the last nail in the coffin, top-level football is getting about as realistic as professional wrestling – put on a show, sell the rights, pocket the cash.
FFP seems to look at your earning/expenditure over the previous 3 years. I wonder how this will go for Monaco, who could lose €300m of talent in the close season but not be allowed to replace them. Still, it’s never bothered Monaco in the past…
I’v. No doubt Celtic fans where set up, it’s what England fans do, till they took on the Russian fans that was a no contest, media making a big deal of it because the title stripping is ground swelling, karma catching up with Tommy Robinson would do me just fine, not that I’m implying violence, just some Karma.lotsa Tims in his area I’m hearing rumours, but I’m sure it’s all,just talk, he is best ignored.