The document from Uefa to the Resolution 12 team, which emerged online over the weekend, is genuine. The headline part of this correspondence was always going to be Uefa confirming that whatever errors or omissions on the part of Old Rangers and the SFA’s Uefa vetting process, no further action was possible as New Rangers are a “new club/new company”.
Priceless, I know, but a delightful wee surprise, though it was, the status of Newco Rangers wasn’t the purpose of Resolution 12. Res 12 was about SFA process and accountability.
There was a great deal of correspondence with media figures since the letter was produced. It’s probably worthwhile noting the chronology of correspondence:
Uefa wrote to the Res 12 team on 6 June, copying the SFA and Celtic. After this date Grant Russell at STV asked Uefa for an update and received pretty much the same information that was sent to the Res 12 guys, without the supporting “new club/new company” line.
You may be of the view that after receiving the 6 June letter, the SFA could have asked Uefa not to offer such information in future (the layers of this story are endless). We’ll never know, but the horse had already bolted.
As correspondence on Res 12 continues, the team decided not to attempt private conversations with Uefa while making correspondence public, which is why this leak didn’t come from the Res 12 team. But I’m glad it’s out. It’s the definitive and irrefutable reference point on the status of Newco Rangers, and it’s on Uefa headed notepaper.
I don’t expect I’ll be goaded about Res 12 online as often going forward.
While we’re on the subject of the SFA: Craig Thomson, take a look at yourself. You know this is not good enough. Your decision-making this season has been atrocious. James Forrest booking, for staying several yards away from the crowd after scoring a goal, was ludicrous, capping a multitude of errors this month.
If only people at the SFA were accountable. Which brings us back to the point above.
Getting nervous about tomorrow. So much on the line……
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Re; Thompson and SFA referees in general, someone (Lucky Cody?) made an excellent post the other night regarding this. Respect for and trust in referees in Scotland is at an all time low and has been for a while. There is no consistency either within games or between games. The best way to address this is to be transparent and publish (MEANINGFUL) stats on referee performance every week. Some empirical data is required to address the subjective viewpoint of fans. Any competent organisation would already be doing this. But we have the SFA in charge, so….
Mats Nilloc
Was that satire?
£34k for Palestine in a couple of days? Lots of positivity out there for Celtics supporters.
I’m sticking to football, and if the occasion merits it laughing at sevco, until after the game. It makes absolutely no difference to the outcome of the match but I appreciate that people want to focus on fitba. Blogs find their own levels in any case – what’s exciting, important, most on people’s minds etc is what people will discuss regardless of what any individual chooses to do.
For example, my campaign to ban football boots which are not mainly black in colour has yet to find traction. But it’s a major issue for me. It’s ruined football……
Oh! My last post was from JJ site sorry.
BADA
Agree he’ll be pencilled in for 10/09/16 to attempt to disturb the flow of the game.
He overrules the assistant, boom Sevco score?
He single handedly decided the Celtic substitutions and when they were made on Saturday
Coincidence? – next thing you know somebody will call us paranoid
OH WAIT CSC
The word cute in John James recent blog should be replaced by Hun Lovin Criminals
ScoobySnacksCSC
MATS NILLOC on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:34 PM
Paul, far be it for me to defend Thompson, however I think he booked Jamesie rather than send off Griff for a second offence – it was Griff not Jamesie who went into the crowd – the law states the the instigator should be cautioned – I feel that was what was in Thompson’s mind, that he could hold Jamsie to be the instigator, if questioned later.
The rule is wrong however on this occasion I think he ‘bent it’ in our direction.
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The rule and other such arbitrary rules are imposed on Celtic, as much as possible. I’d be amazed if Thomson ever had the ideation of how to be fair let alone how he could help us.
The example of Miller’s celebration on Saturday is just another example of one rule for the Celtic and one for them.
BSR@1:40
No – just an attempt to figure it out – Jamsie never touched the crowd and therefore did not deserve to be cautioned – Griff embraced the crowd and so under these perverse rules, could have been cautioned and sent off as it would have been his second.
Not justifying – just explaining.
MATS NILLOC on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:34 PM
Paul, far be it for me to defend Thompson, however I think he booked Jamesie rather than send off Griff for a second offence – it was Griff not Jamesie who went into the crowd – the law states the the instigator should be cautioned – I feel that was what was in Thompson’s mind, that he could hold Jamsie to be the instigator, if questioned later.
The rule is wrong however on this occasion I think he ‘bent it’ in our direction.
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He didn’t need to take out a card at all. What would he have done if this had been sevco? No card would have been issued.
Nat/BCW
You can appeal a yellow card,only if it has been given for `simulation`. The problem you then have,is to prove it was not simulation. It becomes then a matter of opinion. Srange one,I know.
AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:46 PM
The word cute in John James recent blog should be replaced by Hun Lovin Criminals
ScoobySnacksCSC
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Tells me that KevJ has been moonlighting… ;-)))))
ROBERTTRESSELL…
I’m with you on the boots malarkey.
Real (football) men wear black.
Natknow,
Only yellows for simulation can be appealed up here.
I think uefa allow appeals for mistaken identity but not 100% sure on that neebs.
HH
BARNEY67 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:20 PM
vfr800a8 on 22nd August 2016 11:18 am
I pretty much agree with your comments. I also agree with a lot of what TD67 says.
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Barney, I will give you my thoughts on your questions/comments:
I do however, have a couple of questions, just in general and not directly to you.
A. Who is administering this GoFund account?
It was set up by a GB member on behalf of the Green Brigade so it will be administered by the Green Brigade.
B. How do we know the money is going where its supposed to?
In the first instance, trust. However, over and above that, the Green Brigade have worked with these charities in the past; a spokesperson for one of charities has commented on the campaign on the fundraising page. This will be scrutinised by the Green Brigade themselves, the charities concerned and, because of the level of publicity, the SMSM will be all over it (along with the worst element of the new club’s support) to see if anything untoward happens. I would also think that, for probity, Celtic will (because their name is so heavily linked), keep a wee eye on it. But as I said, trust is the main element for me.
I’m not suggesting its not going to where its supposed to, i’m just saying how do we KNOW?
i know the 2 mentioned charities exist, ive been on they’re web sites you can donate there if you wish.
So why would I want a third party to donate MY money for me? Just askin like!
I donated there because my donation linked to all the other donations has a snowball effect and the fact is (to my shame) I wouldn’t have thought of donating to these charities this morning without the campaign. I would suggest that the bulk of the 2,200 people who have donated today wouldn’t have thought to do so either!
HH, enjoy your day.
Hope that makes sense.
KTF
!!BADA BING!! on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:36 PM
Thomson is the SFA’s go to guy to kill a game- see LCgame v Sevco a couple of years ago, his plan is to stop the game as often as he can, and slow down our team and kill the tempo , a rat.
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Totally agree Bada, the recent Cup final investigation report gives this view great support where it suggests that any more than a 2 nil victory would trigger a field invasion.
HH
One thing I hope for tomorrow is that our away support do not get involved in any trouble in Israel if they fly the Palestine flag or show support for Palestine there will be real trouble and certainly jail will be the outcome for them.I believe after the rights or the wrongs ( I am not clever enough to know which ) of the display of flags and support tomorrow will be a tinder box situation.I pray that the game is played in the right spirit and our fans do not get involved in anything other than supporting Celtic.Some things are away bigger than football.H.H.
“The example of Miller’s celebration on Saturday is just another example of one rule for the Celtic and one for them.”
Bcw,
Not really. Both Griffiths and miller touched the crowd and neither were booked.
Jamsies booking was pure incompetence.
HH
I think we should push for anything LESS than 6 -0 to the ‘tic should prompt a field invasion.
Who would win a fight between a competent *** and an incompetent ***?
Not a bad read get the kettle on, prob a good read for the over seas punters too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/37152445
BARNEY67 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:35 PM
Chavez on 22nd August 2016 1:27 pm
As long as ALL of it gets to the charities i’m fine with that.
I just asked how do we KNOW?
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Well I suppose one way would be for you to publicly allege that the money isn’t going where it should, you then get sued, it’s proved to the court that everything is above board and you pay damages and costs.
Which would clear things up for everyone.
Much better to be open and transparent about these things. Better than murky innuendo, don’t you think?
CT practices giving out red and yellow cards in front of a mirror.
Media tart who is rapidly losing what little talent he had.
One thing is that the pressure / publicity on the performance of the MIB needs to be kept up.
Now that the TFOD2 are back the SFA game scheduler has played his part and the MIB will be supporting his efforts right throughout the season.
Couple of points here — multi dimensional issue.
No matter the state of the league I think we will continue to be the target.
Target for a number of TFOD2 cloggers wanting to make a name for themselves.
Target for the MIB who do not like being criticised and scrutinised in public.
Target for the MIB Ludge End of Season Dance when the biggest prize on offer will be the most ridiculous anti CFC decision of the year.
Next up is the pro TFOD2 bias which will continue just for old times sake.
Might get a bit more subtle if the publicity continues, might get absurd if they collapse.
Close league and it will get ridiculous.
They have no shame and a number of them will take one — in a professional reputational sense — for their team to the point that people will retire after doing the deed.
The need to stop us winning the league is strong at the moment.
VFR800A8 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:50 PM
I donated there because my donation linked to all the other donations has a snowball effect and the fact is (to my shame) I wouldn’t have thought of donating to these charities this morning without the campaign. I would suggest that the bulk of the 2,200 people who have donated today wouldn’t have thought to do so either!
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Totally agree, I hadn`t heard of the 2 charities before, but have now. Donation made.
The PLC just think we are a bunch of mindless bigots or certainly would like us to be. Do not be fooled. We are all very aware that The Rangers is a new club. We just want accountancy and transparency and the removal of those who have failed the club in governing it up until tomorrow. Paying for bent competitions is unacceptable.
HH
JOE FILIPPIS HAIRCUT on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:52 PM
One thing I hope for tomorrow is that our away support do not get involved in any trouble in Israel if they fly the Palestine flag or show support for Palestine there will be real trouble and certainly jail will be the outcome for them.I believe after the rights or the wrongs ( I am not clever enough to know which ) of the display of flags and support tomorrow will be a tinder box situation.I pray that the game is played in the right spirit and our fans do not get involved in anything other than supporting Celtic.Some things are away bigger than football.H.H.
I doubt if any of the kids are groomed for flag holding at away games in Europe, but who knows?
MATS NILLOC on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:47 PM
BSR@1:40
No – just an attempt to figure it out – Jamsie never touched the crowd and therefore did not deserve to be cautioned – Griff embraced the crowd and so under these perverse rules, could have been cautioned and sent off as it would have been his second.
Not justifying – just explaining.
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I think you can safely bet yer left baw that if Thomson had seen it was Griffiths and realised he could have sent him off he would have creamed himself and had the red card out immediately.
Scummyhunref csc
KTF
TONYDONNELLY67 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 2:01 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that you’ve been groomed by Peter Lawwell?
Brendan Rodgers song by The Thai Tims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLzjROGQnE
HH
Paul Lambert told Lynsey Sharp other athletes won their titles on the field.
Allegedly CSC
VFR800A8 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 2:01 PM
‘I think you can safely bet yer left baw that if Thomson had seen it was Griffiths and realised he could have sent him off he would have creamed himself and had the red card out immediately.’
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Obviously.
And the realisation of that fact for Thomson is surely punishment enough for the poor man?
Interesting issue regarding “manufacturing contact” — is it a penalty. A shake of the head or is it a booking?
I thought that EA got done when he chased after the guy who was chasing the ball.
The opposition player slowed down and poor EA ran into him.
The opposition player then does his best “Grassy Knoll” best man fall impersonation and poor EA was off.
The whole thing was manufactured, very well manufactured and we were done up like a kipper.
Surprised that not much was made of the whole situation.
Hopefully if it happens again things will be different this season.
Ernie
`Murky innuendo…` Well said.I noticed that too.
Guys here’s the rule:
115
Celebration of a goal
While it is permissible for a player to demonstrate his joy when a goal
has been scored, the celebration must not be excessive.
Reasonable celebrations are allowed, but the practice of choreographed
celebrations is not to be encouraged when it results in excessive time-
wasting and referees are instructed to intervene in such cases.
A player must be cautioned if:
• in the opinion of the referee, he makes gestures which are
provocative, derisory or infl ammatory
• he climbs on to a perimeter fence to celebrate a goal being
scored
• he removes his shirt or covers his head with his shirt.
• he covers his head or face with a mask or other similar item
Leaving the fi eld of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence
in itself but it is essential that players return to the fi eld of play as soon
as possible.
Referees are expected to act in a preventative manner and to exercise
common sense in dealing with the celebration of a goal.
EA game was the 2015 SC SF — from memory.
If anyone knows better then please shout.
Big Cup Winners
So Wee Jamesie did get booked for scoring for Celtic, after all.
WhoHaveThunkedIt CSC
ERNIE LYNCH on 22ND AUGUST 2016 2:02 PM
TONYDONNELLY67 on 22ND AUGUST 2016 2:01 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that you’ve been groomed by Peter Lawwell?
I couldent get that close to him as you ,with your obsession to him? Me thinks you protesting to much.?
JOE FILIPPIS HAIRCUT on 22ND AUGUST 2016 1:52 PM
One thing I hope for tomorrow is that our away support do not get involved in any trouble in Israel if they fly the Palestine flag or show support for Palestine there will be real trouble and certainly jail will be the outcome for them.I believe after the rights or the wrongs ( I am not clever enough to know which ) of the display of flags and support tomorrow will be a tinder box situation.I pray that the game is played in the right spirit and our fans do not get involved in anything other than supporting Celtic.Some things are away bigger than football.H.H.
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I don’t think anyone is stupid enough to be intending to take a Palestinian flag to the game with them. Over and above that, anyone stupid enough to be seen with a Palestinian flag will get nowhere near the ground. If the locals don’t get them, the polis will!
KTF
LYMMBHOY on 22ND AUGUST 2016 2:02 PM
Brendan Rodgers song by The Thai Tims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLzjROGQnE
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Thanks for posting that,gave my heart a wee buzz.Timtastic. ;)))