Understanding the perpetrators walked among us

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We will never know the scale of sexual abuse in our institutions, or how far back in history they go; “historic” covers a lot of ground.  What we know for sure is the lifelong damage caused by this abuse.  Yesterday’s SFA review, apologies from clubs and the Association, and many criminal convictions, cannot repair the damage done, but it vindicates those who brought the issue to light.

It is hard to understand that the perpetrators walked among us, lived otherwise normal lives and held positions of respect.  It could be decades before we know if the problems of the past persist today, such is the imbalance of power between abuser and victim.  As a society, as families or as parents, we cannot be complacent.  Boys clubs, churches and youth organisations were targeted in the past, but if these types still walk among us, and they almost certainly do, they will look where vigilance is less.

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  1. Interesting report from The Herald today

     

     

     

    FILES held by former Rangers chairmen Dave King and Paul Murray are to be included in a search for documents to be disclosed in a multi-million pound damages claim over an alleged merchandise deal breach over the club’s agreements with Mike Ashley’s Sports Direct.

     

     

    A judge has ruled that they should be treated as ‘custodians’ – people whose files are searched for over legal disclosures relevant to the case – along with former commercial director Scott Steedman.

     

     

    It is the latest twist over the bitter battle between Rangers and Sports Direct after a judge previously stated the club had breached a legal agreement allowing a Sports Direct subsidiary to make an offer over club merchandising, including the Scottish Premiership leaders’ replica kits

     

     

    In July, 2019, Judge Lionel Persey said that Rangers had breached an agreement with Sports Direct over the club’s kit deal.

     

     

    He ruled Mr Ashley’s company should have been given the chance to match a shirt deal struck with Hertfordshire-based football merchandising firm Elite and sportswear firm Hummel thought to be worth £10m. A damages hearing was expected to follow

     

     

    Rangers have won a right to get financial information revealing the effect of a fan boycott of Sports Direct – in fighting that multi-million pound damages claim.

     

     

    Lawyers acting for the Newcastle United owner’s sports firm had claimed that Rangers feared a supporter boycott if Sports Direct had won valuable merchandise rights.

     

     

    A campaign was launched in early 2015 by the Sons of Struth fans group as South Africa-based businessman Dave King moved to try and shift Mr Ashley’s influence at the club and one petition calling for a boycott of Sports Direct attracted over 8000 signatures.

     

     

    In March, 2015, Mr King and his so-called Three Bears associates including Paul Murray achieved a landslide victory at an extraordinary general meeting to control the boardroom while evicting associates of Mr Ashley, Derek Llambias and Barry Leach. That came after David Somers, who was chairman, and James Easdale had already resigned.

     

     

    After taking over Mr King declared that his priority would be to tear up the merchandsing agreement that saw Mr Ashley’s firm take in around 93p from every £1 made from the sale of strips and merchandise.

     

     

    In a battle over whose files should be disclosed in the affair, high court judge Lionel Persey said Mr King and Murray should be among the ‘custodians’, saying that they “were board members and decisions were being put to the board concerning the third parties who were going to be contracted with”.

     

     

    Mr Persey said that Mr Murray who was a director of Rangers Retail, a joint venture between Sports Direct and the club which controlled the club’s merchandising and stores was supporting the boycott on behalf of Rangers.

     

     

    The judge said that Mr Steedman was “intimately involved with the rights that were being offered and granted by Rangers”

     

     

    At the Commercial Court in London Rangers also won the right to the disclosure of financial documents that would show the financial effect of the boycott of the club.

     

     

    Sports Direct also won the right to disclosure of third party interests in purchasing the merchandising rights.

     

     

    Mr Ashley, once a controlling figure at the club with a hold over its trademarks and merchandise and Rangers have been embroiled in various High Court litigations, centred on the merchandise deal, in London for more than two years.

     

     

    Discussions on what files should be disclosed, come as a company in the Sports Direct Group, SDI Retail (SDIR), is pursuing damages over an alleged breach of obligations under merchandise deals through the Commercial Court in London.

     

     

    The case revolves around Mike Ashley, who was a former Rangers shareholder and once seen as a club kinpin, striking a deal with a previous board that saw his company take in around 93p from every £1 made from the sale of strips and merchandise.

     

     

    That deal led to some fans boycotting Sports Direct stores and their sale of Rangers kit.

     

     

    At the end of 2014 the fans group, Rangers Supporters Trust launched an alternative shirt for fans as they took on Mr Ashley – and said all profits would be ploughed back into an increased shareholding in their club.

     

     

    The Herald revealed that in early 2015, Mr Ashley was declared the “ultimate controlling party” of Rangers Retail, a joint venture with the club which controlled the club’s merchandising and stores.

     

     

    When the venture was first confirmed by the club under then chief executive Charles Green in August 2012, it was promoted as enabling Rangers “to once again control its retail operation and give supporters the chance to buy direct from the club and in doing so, continue to invest in its future”.

     

     

    Two weeks ago at the Commercial Court in London in a debate over what should be disclosed by both sides in the damages claim, Sa’ad Hossain for SDIR, told Judge Persey Rangers were requiring financial documents that would show the financial effect of any boycott of the club.

     

     

    He said: “Rangers say there are were some supporters who would not have bought kit in the relevant period from around July, 2018 in the event that SDIR acquired the offered rights because of antipathy to SDIR.

     

     

    “This disclosure is contested as it is not to do with July, 2018, onwards, it is to do with the historical boycott that took place when the joint venture with [Rangers Retail] was in place, commencing around November, 2014.

     

     

    As we understand, Rangers’ position is searches should be made of financial information of [Rangers Retail] going back to 2014 so that the impact of the boycott in 2014 can be determined.

     

     

    “And then in turn [they will] make inferences of a boycott in different circumstances relevant to the damages claim.

     

     

    “There are several reasons for thinking that this isn’t going to be a very informative exercise.”

     

     

    He said it was common ground that that from 2018 onwards that Mr King and Mr Murray would have complied with their obligations which would have required them not to support a boycott of the goods.

     

     

    The Commercial Court ‘trial’ is expected to take 12 days and both sides have also been arguing over the costs to be incurred.

     

     

    Rangers are facing a legal bill of more than £1 million to fight the damages claim.

     

     

    Court documents itemising some of the charges that Rangers are likely to incur fighting their corner, included £450,000 for trial preparation and £300,000 on expert reports.

     

     

    Judge Persey imposed budget limits on some of the club’s other legal fees in a bid to reduce costs, capping Rangers spending on the courtroom trial itself at £319,750.

     

     

    Judge Persey also limited some of the spending set out by SDIR for the case. SDIR had put forward costs totalling around £2.1m, but the judge slashed that figure to around £1.6m.

  2. YEP gene, You were saying?

     

    Don’t worry about the virus I was talking about, its only child’s play to me.

  3. After surviving covid 19 they told me they wanted to take my plasma

     

     

    I told them no-one’s taking my TV

  4. JINKYREDSTAR on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 6:26 PM

     

    Deter and Clive Live – got it – pure culture

     

     

    you still about bud.

     

     

    I got sent a youtube clip today of steam train from gourock to glasgow, 1966, great wee view included of inchgreen and garden city, you want a link ?

  5. Corkcelt

     

    I did get the joke and my reply was a sniggering emoji which I’ve realised wouldn’t show on certain devices

     

    :))

  6. Evening all,

     

     

    A police officer stopped at the cottage today and said, “I’m looking for a man with one eye”. I answered, ‘Why not use two eyes and you’ll probably find him quicker”. HH

  7. I can understand the appeal of Steve Clarke to the celtic board. He did very well at Kilmarnock on a shoestring budget.

  8. HOT SMOKED on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 4:52 PM and

     

    JACKIEMAC on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 5:40 PM and

     

    GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 6:30 PM

     

     

    If we want to deal with this issue and deal with it well, we need to have all children, all adults and all organisations working together to understand and recognise potential risk. The agenda and blame games too often takes place and is a distraction. we can make a positive difference to children who may be at risk by focusing on facts and putting measures in place to protect them.

     

     

    Hope you guys have a good evening.

  9. Didn’t Steve Clarke say before taking the Scotland job that he wouldn’t want to be Celtic manager because it would mean subjecting his family to sectarian abuse?

  10. About 1962 StAlphonsus Guild team are at Glasgow Green to play Our Lady of Fatima from Springfield Rd.

     

     

    They were a man short and this guy, not tall and a pair of gutties under his arm is looking for a game.

     

     

    Our manager, generous to a fault agrees to let the lad play for OLoF in spite of my warnings. That’s Tony Green I warn him.

     

     

    Tony beat us 3 2. I think his cousin was in our team.

     

     

    Within a year StA are playing at Tolcross. Think it was St Gregory’s and I’m exchanging patter with my cousin playing for the opposition.

     

     

    They have guy ripping our defence to pieces every time he was in the ball. A sort of slouched style as he ambled past man after man.

     

    Who he? I ask my cousin. That’s Jimmy Smith. He later played for Aberdeen and for Newcastle Utd as did Tony Green.

     

     

    I think he might have been with Celtic for a short time?

     

     

    Next season I’m playing with St James Boys Brigade a Protestant school in the Calton . ( I played with St Mungos in the morning and my dads proud boast was I played with Catholics in the morning and Protestants in the afternoon)

     

     

    We are down in Greenock at the juniors ground playing Larkfield.

     

     

    Our full back was our best player and was being torn a new one by this wee stocky guy on the wing. He scored 3. Joe Harper it was, to complete the hat trick of Scottish internationlists I played against in my young teenage years.

     

     

    Roll on the years and I’m giving McCoist unmissable chances at the 5s.

     

     

    Funny old game football.

  11. GENE on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 6:51 PM

     

     

    After surviving covid 19 they told me they wanted to take my plasma

     

     

    I told them no-one’s taking my TV

     

     

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    i know you jest Gene bout your telly. but your donation of plasma is well worth it and beneficial to otherz fighting this virus

     

    :-)

     

     

    hh

  12. SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 6:38 PM

     

     

    St Mirren weren’t a top 6 side when we played them, they moved up to 6th when they beat us

     

     

    verypedanticcsc

  13. Any team with a half decent attack takes points off us though. I don’t think the addition of a right back who can defend changes much unfortunately

  14. Sorry to pish on everyone’s chips

     

     

    A dad joke stolen from my 8 year old

     

     

    What do you call a horse kicking a football

     

     

    Neighmar

  15. Well what an absolute set up of a stv sports slot tonight . How in the name of god are these tv stations allowed to get away with it . A full platform for the scouser to pump his gums and rouse the klan to the injustice he thinks his team are receiving . Are the clubs not going to counter the scousers rants everyone knows how things are handled up here .

  16. I cannot see anything special in Kenny.Has done nothing special in his appearances to warrant the praise he has been getting.If he had just come in from our youth team,no one would be going overboard,except for,promising.10 million !!!!!!!.Someone having a laugh.Same with Laxsalt,decent,but not 9 million.

     

    Greg Taylor far superior,at a fraction.We get too carried away,too soon..

  17. Back to Basics - Glass Half Full on

    SFTB @ 6:49pm

     

     

    Thank you for posting merchandising article.

     

     

    Very interesting.

     

     

    Had all gone quiet i.e. media blackout.

     

     

    SMSM shy away from Sevco bad news.

     

     

    In their financial “death by a thousand cuts” scenario – this is a dagger.

     

     

    PS – you’ve got to hand it to the GASL when it comes to chutzpah.

     

     

    Paint SD (who have a legal contract) as baddies.

     

     

    Encourage boycotts.

     

     

    Then argue in front of a judge that SD’s financial loss (from Sevco’s law breaking) would be limited.

     

     

    .. due to boycotts !

     

     

    Will all end in tears. (not Ashley’s)

     

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Keep The Faith

  18. lets all do the huddle on

    stirring up the large thug element of the Klan has been a long standing tactic of clubs playing out of ibrox

     

     

    it is the reason why some of the refs are shit scared to send off any of their players as has been so clear

     

     

    the rest of the refs are just out and out huns and dont want to jeopardise them stopping the ten

     

     

    the game is fked up here

  19. Just poured myself a well deserved beer only realise too late it alcohol-free ! ! !

     

     

    Ive had to supplement it with a Campletown malt. Saved.

  20. lets all do the huddle on

    flicked on the hearts game

     

     

    never a penalty for qots – their guy clearly sticks his left leg out so he catches the hearts defender running beside him then falls over. a foul in the other direction if you ask me

     

     

    then watched mackay-stevens take 5 corners one after the other. they all went to the front post and were headered back out for another corner

     

     

    he didnt even have the strength to hit it a bit higher and harder to clear the first guy

     

     

    a decent player but as weak as a they come

  21. FAVOURITE UNCLE on

    AULDHEID on 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 7:44 PM

     

     

    You also played with FAV UNCLE in ST MUNGO,S playground on your last day in year one. He made 3 goals for you “tap ins” and we won 3/2.

     

     

    You might also give a mention to CHARLIE KELLY who was in our class for 3 years. .Now he was a player.

  22. I lived in Up State New York for a year so when I saw a beer in Lidl`s named Up State Pale Ale I thought: That`s the boy for me.

     

    Turns out it was brewed in Wimbledon ! Very nice anyway.

     

    Think I`ll watch the second half of the Hearts` game.

     

    Cheerio for now.

  23. Saint stivs @6:45

     

     

    hi mate, interesting picture, i have a pennant from the tie in France

     

     

    my late bro in law brought it back for me, love your pics keep them

     

     

    coming

  24. Turkeybhoy….agree not worth the money…..epl inflation……but he’s added stability and balance…..a very good bloc tackle on wed night…..putting my lawwell hat on……..we can sign him for nothing in January….lol

  25. 12TH FEBRUARY 2021 8:20 PM

     

     

    Turkey boy agreed, I really like Taylor and so far Kenny has been no more than competent

  26. For me, the Kenny vs Taylor argument is a false dawn view.

     

     

    JJ Kenny has come in and been steady in his first few games with us; there is no clamour for him to be replaced.

     

     

    Greg Taylor has, at last, produced 2 games in a row that were slightly above his previous yo-yoing between journeyman and poor levels. It is a welcome development but a long way short of a QED argument for favouring Taylor over Laxalt (who has had more acceptable performance level games than Taylor).

     

     

    If finance was no object, Kenny and Laalt would be hte preferred starting full backs as they have given sightly more for a longer period, than Taylor. But……………. the proposed transfer costs and wage expectatins may mean we go with Taylor, as neither Laxalt or Kenny are a sufficient upgrade to justify the expenditure, even if they are willing to come.

     

     

    Unless Taylor has, finally, found his feet (and I doubt he is going to suddenly improve by a lot after showing this “Meh!” level for so long) then I think he will be back to 2nd choice LB sometime soon, if we can land another less expensive LB option.

     

     

    But he has not, despite the very recent improvement, shown himself to be Celtic class as yet. Keep playing him though and give him every chance this season but be realistic if he reverts to a game where his crosses do not come in and he fails to keep the opposition from crossing.

  27. I think Kenny has given stability at the back, in the 3 games he played we conceded just one freak goal to Motherwell that deflected up & over Bain, ie it was not a defensive error.

     

    I agree there is no hurry to make any decision on him.

     

    With more games with us, I believe he may well kick on, so let’s wait & see.

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