Untenable position for SFA president as drama unfolds

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Campbell Ogilvie’s appointment as president of the SFA was always controversial.  As general secretary and director of Rangers, Ogilvie was the club’s chief administrator during the final 11-year period they refused to employ Catholic footballers.  In many other walks of life, this background would make him an embarrassing relic of a former era, but in Scottish football it was enough to see him promoted to the ultimate honour position.

He remained in position at Rangers long after the new regime of Sir David Murray arrived and set aside the decades-old sectarian employment policy but left the club in 2005, joining Hearts as operations director two months later.  All of this puts the SFA president in central position regarding the on-going tax tribunal, which is charged with deciding if Rangers illegally evaded tax from a period starting in 2000 and going on well beyond Ogilvie’s departure.

If the First Tier Tribunal finds against Rangers the SFA must ask for Ogilvie’s immediate resignation.  The association cannot have a president embroiled in a tax evasion scam which, even before a verdict has been decided, has already caused untold harm to his former club and the reputation Scottish football.  The scale of the damage to public finances has yet to be definitively established but it will not make good reading.

The SFA has just embarked on its first proper investigation into whether directors of a football club, in this instance Rangers, are fit and proper persons to hold such a position.  Office holders at the association cannot exercise power over the game if they are not subject to the same standards they demand from clubs.  Pending this investigation, and the outcome of the tax tribunal, Ogilvie should temporarily step aside.  Scotland is not yet a banana republic, public bodies must have robust ethics and must not allow the shadow of contagion to be cast over the body charged with ensuring legal and moral standards are adhered to.

The SFA has some enormously important months ahead.  Its president is currently in a position to influence which course it takes and, if the tribunal verdict falls against Rangers, could be implicated in the scandal which precipitated the crisis.  While I am sure Campbell Ogilvie will be shown to have acted with impeccable ethical standards, the SFA must quickly establish a structure clear of contagion.

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  1. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    AWE NAW 1137

     

     

    A question I had been thinking about is raised by your post.

     

     

    Whyte admits to knowing sod all about football,so who tipped him off about Ticketus?

     

     

    It must have been someone with football knowledge,so I would say Ellis.

     

     

    Because the other option is Murray,and that would be a stupid suggestion.

     

     

    Would it not?

  2. Seven Fishes Four Steaks on

    James F, “Finally, will we run out of jelly & ice cream if this turns out to be as bad as it sounds?”

     

     

    if we do run out I blame you. Why? Cos your the Emperor of ice cream!!

     

     

    SffS

  3. Ten Men Won The League on

    Paul67

     

     

    An excellent article on an individual who has tried to remain ‘under the radar’ in this perfect storm

     

     

    Are you also trying to infer that another tank division is currently on Cathcart Road en route to the Hampden steps? :)

  4. Steviebhoy66 says at 11:35

     

     

    “… Going back to St Patricks Day in NY, was watching my 1st outside Trump Tower late Nineties…I think -5C . Yank woman next to me said to her friend: ‘Love this parade…but really wish they would have it in the summer’ …”

     

     

    A few years ago I was in Italy on holiday when, during a daytrip to Rome by coach, I was sat behind a middle aged American couple for whom this was their first trip to Europe.

     

     

    As we passed the first major road sign saying ‘ROMA’, the wife turned to her husband and said: “Roma. Yeah, I heard they call it Roma. How come they don’t call it Rome, like everyone else?’

     

     

    FF

  5. Paul67

     

     

    Once again asking the questions the mainstream media will avoid. I would love to know how close an interest UEFA are taking in all of this.

     

     

    The SFA will look after themselves first and foremost before tackling clubs and/or individuals.

     

     

    Looking forward to our party tomorrow?

  6. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    hen1rik says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 11:55

     

     

    I think you will find that the SFA have pulled the majority of their own documents off from their website for public consumption

     

     

    I wonder why ?

     

     

    HAil HAil

  7. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:05

     

     

    25 p of the pound was Ellis

     

     

    HAil Hail

  8. @ BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

     

     

    it seems primaryfinance.co.uk (Betts outfit) were sponsored by a company called Close Brothers.

     

     

    Close Brothers have (had) a board member called Ray Greenshields who is (was) the chairman of Octopus and we all know where octopus have their slippery tentacles.

  9. TinyTim says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 11:57

     

     

    This time last year, if someone had told you that within 12 months the huns would be in the position they are today, you wouldn’t have believed them, would you?

     

     

    I understand your almost paranoid belief that whatever happens they’ll pull through, but even you must now have some inkling of a suspicion that they might actually be wound up.

     

     

    That’s not to say that there won’t be a newco, and none of us can stop that, though we can insist that they start at the bottom, where they deserve to be.

     

     

    Keep The Faith. T.A.L.

  10. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:11

     

    Happy Birthday Georgios Samaras

     

    ______________________________

     

    If I would have known,I would have baked big Sammi a cake.

     

    Happy birthday ya big Greek God ye.

  11. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    voguepunter

     

     

    and that cake would be even tastier than your brilliantly penned article yesterday .. it made the local papers here today ;-)

     

     

    HAil HAil

  12. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Anybody fancy shooting fish in a thimble ?

     

     

    I cant get on it ?

     

     

    Anybody tried ?

     

     

    http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spl/webchat_tom_english_on_the_crisis_at_rangers_1_2129203

     

     

    Webchat: Tom English on the crisis at Rangers

     

     

    Rangers fans gathered outside Ibrox before the match on Saturday

     

     

    Published on Tuesday 21 February 2012 11:15

     

     

    Scotland on Sunday sports writer Tom English will be online from noon today to host a live online debate about the crisis at Rangers.

     

     

    Post your questions and comments on the webchat page, where you can set an email reminder in advance.

     

     

    HAil HAil

  13. James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream on

    …. On second thoughts …..

     

     

    Let’s assume, for a minute, that Rangers Group Ltd was set up as the vehicle for the Newco, and is a completely seperate legal entity. Well that appears to break UEFA regulations as written here;

     

     

    The legal group structure must clearly identify the entity which is the member of

     

    the UEFA member association and also mention the following for any subsidiary

     

    of the licence applicant:

     

    a) Name of legal entity;

     

    b) Type of legal entity;

     

    c) Information on main activity and any football activity;

     

    d) Percentage of ownership interest (and, if different, percentage of voting

     

    power held);

     

    e) Share capital;

     

    f) Total assets;

     

    g) Total revenues;

     

    h) Total equity.

     

     

    (Scapa, of RTC proudced this.)

     

     

    Also, BRTH has posted something interesting on the clear intent of the rules.

     

     

    All of this is highly unusual.

  14. If you want to know the distance between them and us – consider this…

     

     

    A snippet from Paul’s Blog

     

     

    In many other walks of life, this background would make him an embarrassing relic of a former era, but in Scottish football it was enough to see him promoted to the ultimate honour position.

     

     

    A snippet from David Leggat’s

     

     

    As for Creep writing in the Scotsman…. I’ve got a wee hunch we won’t see this self confessed paedophile sympathiser polluting their pages again

     

     

     

    One of the above used to be a paid journalist…

  15. Just a thought but what about wearing anonymous masks (suitably coloured green in places) for the blogger at rangerstaxcase.com

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:09

     

     

    The SFA have pulled documents from their website??!! When did this happen?

     

     

    Surely they have to publish all guidance?

     

     

    So much for transparency!

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    ernie lynch says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:12

     

     

    I´m with Tinytim

     

     

    The fat lady is on the stage but the Curtain is not yet up ?

     

     

    Hail HAil

  18. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    KJamBhoy says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:18

     

     

    Some time in the last 4 weeks

     

     

    Hail Hail

  19. James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream says:

     

     

    ” … will we run out of jelly & ice cream if this turns out to be as bad as it sounds?”

     

     

    James

     

     

    Never mind Campbell Ogilvie’s confilct of interest: how about your own, eh?

     

     

    I mean, ‘Emperor of Ice Cream’.

     

     

    It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re a jelly hoarder as well …

     

     

    FF

  20. Just a thought but what about wearing anonymous masks (suitably coloured green in places) for the blogger at rangerstaxcase.com

     

     

    At the Ibrox game of course….!!! (if it ever goes ahead)

     

     

    Hail hail

  21. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    LiviBhoy says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 11:53

     

     

    It is their duty to play them. not IF they need to

     

     

    100 years of cheating .. who are you kidding ?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  22. A fair few of our people put a lot of faith in Regan , and Doncaster to provide the even playing field we all wanted and knew we didnt have . Our good friend Auldheed convinced me in our frequent debates about it , that they would given time eventually deliver the level playing field we all sought . Personally i couldnt see it myself as i often thought who was it who interviewed them for the posts , they must have fitted the bill. I have been a paying customer at celtic park for over 50 years , and in all that time i have never had any faith in the governing body of scottish football to administer a level playing field as far as our club were concerned , and there are supporters reading this who will go back even further , have they seen the day when we were treated evenly . No imho apart from when we were too good for them to do anything about it, we have been well harnessed. Thats why i still feel a little trapadation regards the handling of the alleged wrong doings across the city .

     

     

    jimtim

  23. Paul67

     

     

    There are many balls in the air, and don’t interrupt your enemy..etc etc

     

     

    The Ogilvie angle is right to raise, but why today?

     

     

    H

     

     

    TLK

  24. James Forrest is The Emperor of Ice Cream says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:03

     

    ‘It looks to me, at a reading of the SPL regs, that there is no rule on these contracts one way or another’

     

     

     

    The SPL is a private limited company. A business. It’s not a regulatory authority. The SFA is the regulatory authority.

  25. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:19

     

     

    Would waste my time tweeting S Regan, he has been blocking Celtic fans who ask difficult questions…

  26. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:20

     

     

    The whole establishment is imploding. Celtic may not have to do anything. They are shooting themslves in the foot daily!

     

     

    Who had Matt McKay in the sweep? First player to leave Ibrokes due to Admin.

     

     

    LB

  27. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    jimtim says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:22

     

     

    We could possibly have arrived at this point earlier if our board had backed Alan Mc Donald a little more with regards the independent analysis on Shug Dallas refereeing performance after the shame game.

     

     

    I do hope we invite Stephane Mahe for the Ibrox game

     

     

    I do hope that every employee of Celtic Bounce up and down on the pitch at Ibrox after we HAVE TOTALLY GUBBED THEM

     

     

    Hail Hail

  28. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    LiviBhoy says:

     

    21 February, 2012 at 12:23

     

     

    Get their names out in public … shame them it is their absolute duty.

     

     

    HAil HAil

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