If you’ve been here for a while you’ll have noticed I don’t pay much attention to preseason friendlies but tomorrow’s game against Wolfsburg takes on a more serious tone after Tuesday’s reversal – Celtic desperately need to find sharpness.
Despite the well-placed confidence that we’ll cope comfortably at Celtic Park on Wednesday against Lincoln Red Imps, the serious challenges will come thick and fast thereafter.
Players need to find their edge and the manager needs to learn who goes where and works with whom. It’s just about possible for us to get things together, but whoever we pull out of the hat in today’s provisional third qualifying round draw will be delighted to catch a team in apparent flux.
All this brings us back to Wolfsburg’ a much needed test.
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How can you know the wages if you don’t know the hours you will work ?
And there it is in a nut shell, disturbing shit.
01 Forster
02 Matthews
04 Ambrose
21 Mulgrew
23 Lustig
08 Brown Booked
15 Commons (Boerrigter – 79′ )
16 Ledley Booked
49 Forrest (van Dijk – 90′ )
09 Samaras
10 Stokes
Substitutes
24 Zaluska
03 Izaguirre
05 van Dijk
46 McGeouch
11 Boerrigter
17 Balde
32 Watt
Team when we played Karagandy and squeezed through with Forrest’s late goal. How many of Tuesday’s team would get into that line up?
Griffiths? Tierney? Erik?
Weeminger
When you worked as stage crew, I’m guessing cash in hand, did you sign off the brew to partake in that employment? Did you advise the brew of said employment? Or did you accept your dole money and the bonus of the stage, I’m guessing crew cash in hand job.
Was it a proper contract, cash in hand, taxes and NI paid with no social security payment received for duration of work. And if you did not accept that employment were you sanctioned to no cash for a minimum of 6 weeks.
MWD
lets all show our support for Paul The Tim
http://www.hailhailmedia.com/paul-the-tim/
I agree that Celtic should pay the living wage, but too many people jumping on the zero hours bandwagon who haven’t a clue what a zero hours contract is or how it operates.
Lots of companies advertise jobs with zero hours contracts and mention it as an incentive for people looking for part-time or casual work.
CL Draw…….Celtic v Another Plastic Pitch
I’v upset the malcontents I see, even one of the res12 guys in on this one eh? Wonder what’s wrong with him? You’d think he would be working on forcing the SFAs hand on the res.? I know, no laughing at the back,.
Auld Tam
Have you asked the people you say are jumping on the bandwagon if they have an understanding of these criminal contracts. Asked if they have had experience of them? Asked if they have had family members with experience of them.
Reel your neck in mate and talk about things you understand yourself.
MWD
Weeminger,
Yes it’s a conundrum however as I said, as soon as someone takes a zero hour contract they are deemed to be in full time employment regardless of the full or part time status of the job and those on benefits are no longer entitled.
As for the employers, you identified the busy and slow times for the offices, why can’t the company do the same ? After all we are told they are the experts, no ?
They have all the records of when the office is busiest and slowest and it’s their job to get it right.
If they don’t get it right then like those lower down the food chain if they make a mistake they get pumped. Management of resources is just a job and if they can’t manage or predict when they are going to be busy then they shouldn’t be in that job, should they ?
MOONBEAMSWD on 15TH JULY 2016 11:30 AM
Weeminger
When you worked as stage crew, I’m guessing cash in hand, did you sign off the brew to partake in that employment? Did you advise the brew of said employment? Or did you accept your dole money and the bonus of the stage, I’m guessing crew cash in hand job.
Was it a proper contract, cash in hand, taxes and NI paid with no social security payment received for duration of work. And if you did not accept that employment were you sanctioned to no cash for a minimum of 6 weeks.
MWD
Ffs, seriously? You wi the social? I’v seen it all now, lol, unbelievable.
Tony
as earlier stated.
You are an ignorant wee no mark of an excuse.
MWD
MOONBEAMSWD on 15TH JULY 2016 11:30 AM
I was a student. I was paid into my bank account. MacRoberts Arts Centre, Stirling. Some were paid in cash, but the theatre handled their side correctly. It was up to the individual to handle what they declared.
Was it a contract? No. It was on the crew list. If I got a call and could work I worked, if not they went to the next on the list. If you couldn’t work often you might get moved down the list.
It was a bit of extra money.
Like it or not, there are people up and down the country that work in venues where they might not be required every day, or even every week. Whether it’s crew or ushers, or box office.
As I was saying to Canamalar there’s a discussion as whether these are genuine zero hours contracts and I’d say they’re not but they’re being painted as such in some discussions.
Irony, a socialist wanting someone fired, gets better in here by the day, lol.
This is the text direct from the Club Website:
Customer Service Operator – Zero Hours – Ticket Office
Purpose
To assist in the day-to-day operations of the Celtic Ticket Office, providing world-class customer service to Celtic supporters and stakeholders.
Key Responsibilities
Provide world-class customer service and resolve supporter enquiries through the Ticket Office counter and telephone line.
Process home match, away match and season ticket sales
Process payments and follow all daily banking procedures
Use the provided ticketing system to ensure accurate supporter records are maintained
Printing, fulfilment and posting of home and away match tickets
To adhere to the Ticket Office Policies and Procedures at all times
Assist in any area of Ticket Office operations as requested by the Ticket Office Operations Manager
Desired Skills
Previous experience in a customer service role
Previous experience in ticket sales/administration
Excellent communication and customer service skills
Able to work individually and as part of a team
Willing to work flexibly (evening/weekend match days)
Knowledge of Celtic Football Club
Engagement will be on a zero hours basis to assist with match days and sales as required.
Closing Date: Friday 22nd July 2016
There’s nothing hidden about the basis of employment.
Always surprises me when I read ‘tory/ neo lib’ supporting comments from tims.
Maybe they’re board members, nom de guerre, no?
Ah well, naive am I.
Logged on from my sun lounger to get some celtic news and I get the right wing loonies or the religious ones. What a choice. Back to the kindle for some less hysterical reading.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 15TH JULY 2016 11:07 AM
WEEMINGER
everyone knows that zero hours contracts suits most who work those contracts, but it doesent suit the malcontent socialist Agenda, those annoying splinter groups who have nothing to do other than run CFC down, it’s what they do, as do Huns.
Lurking Huns GIRFUYs
Leaving aside TD’s take it or leave it, there appears to be a slight confusion between the suitability of zero hours no payment guaranteed contracts and flexible working hours.
As I have posted before on this subject, one of the iniquities of zero hours contracts is that the employee is barred from taking any other employment to boost his or her income.
MWD
got it the first time, and I’m the no mark?
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 15TH JULY 2016 11:37 AM
That’s in essence what I’m saying though. As an employer you know you need a core of 15 staff, occasionally 20 and even more rarely 25 (number for discussion only).
Do you employ that 20 on a full-time basis and accept the issues of turnover etc and the fact that on the occasions of needing 25 that you’ll provide a poorer service and any complaints etc.
Or do you do what the club appear to be doing, and get a pool of people signed up that are happy to be called in at relatively short notice as required?
WEEMINGER on 15TH JULY 2016 11:42 AM
Bit of a brass neck. Purpose
To assist in the day-to-day operations of the Celtic Ticket Office, providing world-class customer service to Celtic supporters and stakeholders.
But do it on Third World wages and employment conditions.
Should be shot at dawn for a fortnight with balls of their own shit.
FFS…Why not go the whole hog and force people to work for nothing….oh thats right, that is exactly what its all about.
Businessmen want profit, but dont want to pay wages.
So…just get a Tory government to do it for you.
Its a fecking disgrace.
And to make matters worse, we have a fine selection of half-wits willing to back that rhetoric up…..its called stupidity.
Plenty of it on CQN.
Know alls who know feck all.
Over n Over
Paul67/WC
Please sort out those Adverts. ASAP
It is so easy to click on that Sh!t when a page is loading. Sort it please ASAP.
It just goes to show his ignorance does not stop at zero hour contracts it appears to be all encompassing.
Res12 was never about forcing the SFA to do anything you ignorant buffoon, it was about getting the board of Celtic Plc to protect the interests of all the Celtic shareholders and not just those who sit on the board, that’s why it could not simply be voted down. How can someone get to that age and retain so much stupidity, you’d expect some wisdom to sink in over the years surely.
Anyroadup, for your information, Res12 is none of your business and you will be glad to know if we ever need to opinion of an ignorant annal orifice your name is first on the list.
‘Gers Swoop’
p.s. GIRUY
I want the whole Tory party fired, the irony eh
FC Astana squad is valued at £7M are organised and 20 games into league. They don’t have a beancounter running the club from top to bottom taking £10 M out and selling every decent player we had. Lawwell has decimated our club and even now with CL qualification at stake one project in with several players out incl Stokes. No sign of any investment in the team and any signing now will be a panic buy just like Cole and Kazim Richards—- and have little impact on 2 tough games in a couple of weeks time.
Lawwell has ensured the Bonus is secured for another season whilst the fans are put thru the wringer of CL qualification. we could actually leave this transfer window weaker than when we went in —which has been the trend with Lawwell playing CFO / DOF.
All of this assumes we beat the mighty Red Imps—-here’s hoping.
As WEEMINGER posted their is no hidden agenda, it’s there for all to see, you want the job? Thats what the contract is, like any other job you take it or leave it, malcontents just don’t get that, bells and whistles smoke screens squirrels all over the place, and they never will get it.
BTW…..for any of you religious nuts out there.
Im an atheist….and i dont need saved
QUONNO on 15TH JULY 2016 11:46 AM
I’ve never really understood why companies pay so poorly for customer service roles. If you pay better, you by and large get better people in the job, that are prepared to stay for a while thus reducing costs related to high staff turnover etc. Seems obvious to me.
all the players who took part in the game in gibraltar – i would make them get the bus to kazakhstan – even if we are playing in lithuania.
and not one of those coaches – a first bus
p.s. loving the adverts Paul
FFS a half-wit calling people daft.
Thats Irony
Weeminger
A student. You are evil. :)
I also worked when I was a student in order to keep down the amount of debt I left University with. I worked most week nights, Saturday’s & Sunday’s and it was part time paid employment, contracted with tax and NI paid.
During the summer months I did anything i could on top of that to earn cash and at times that work was cash in hand.
There were no such things as legally binding zero hours contracts in my day or your day.
If there were you and I would most likely have been signed up to one and if the hours offered (when offered) were not suitable due to your University commitments you likely would have lost your contract and the work.
Today’s zero hour contracts are designed to manipulate employment figures, provide a means for the social (or whatever they are called now) to force the youth off the unemployed statistics and systematically punish them with poverty if they quit a contract that, in my experience of those I know who have been forced on to them, receive one shift, never hear from said employer again and are then left in limbo without cash knowing their only way back is to quit and receive no financial assistance for weeks and sometimes months.
thankfully for you and I these contracts were not around at our time or we would have been f******.
MWD
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 15TH JULY 2016 11:53 AM
I want the whole Tory party fired, the irony eh
Good luck with that one, but with your track record on the SFA, I doubt Theresa will be getting her knickers in a twist, IMO
Don’t mind if I mention a Celtic /Football issue, then some of you can get back to the boring, tedious, puerile ‘school playground’ socio/ political garbage which bores the tits off the vast majority of us ?
If we end up going to Kazahkstan then we should play at the following :
Astana’s stadium is the Astana Arena. The stadium has been Astana’s home since the mid of the 2009 season, when the club moved from the Kazhymukan Munaitpasov Stadium. The stadium holds 30,000 and has a retractable roof.
The playing surface is covered in high quality grass surface specified to meet FIFA and UEFA criteria.
No Tony
You are an ignorant wee no mark of an excuse.
Your welcome.
MWD
FFS if it wasnt so pathetic, id laugh.
But ignorance isnt funny.
It can certainly feck your head up, and can reach the point of delusion.
Half-wits calling people daft…..thats how far it can go.
No self-awareness whatsoever.
Its a shame
Weeminger,
No, you employ part time staff as and when you need them however you do not make the zero hour contract a condition of employment. If you can’t manage to predict when you will need them then you get someone who can. It’s no rocket surgery. As I said, all the records of when the office are busiest and quietest are there for reference a decent analysis of those records will produce a fairly accurate template for managing the resources. So what is happening is, rather than spend a few bob having the records analysed and a template made up it’s easier to stick a pool of workers on zero hour contracts, the bottom line is that zero hour contract is a sign that the company cannot properly manage its resources or plan for the future, which is a more serious issue.
Astana are 10 points clear at the top of their table.