Vacancy for a coach to challenge O’Neill orthodoxy

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If/when minds at Celtic get around to considering a replacement for Alan Thompson it would also be wise to recognise the international nature of the game.  Lennon, Mjallby, Parker and Thompson were all football sons of Martin O’Neill, rooted in the domestic tradition of the game (even the Swede).

Football philosophy drifts slowly between national boundaries carried by successful coaches and players.  Right now the ambitious teams in the world are trying to ape the Barcelona/Spain model, the success of which is hard to argue with, but whether we look for a Spanish influence or not, we must surely look for a voice to challenge what the current management team regard as orthodoxy, in all aspects of the job.

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  1. Dexter

     

    I have been proclaiming it for some time on here.

     

    IMHO it’s far better than Breaking Bad.

     

    It is a worthy successor to the Sopranos.

     

    Each series has its own theme and shows the struggles of Dexter trying to balance the dark and the light sides of his spirit.

     

    The series demonstrates the capabilities of good writers able to manipulate your emotions to feel empathy for a physcopathic avenger.

     

     

    Oh and Debra was never a man in real life, although she does swear like a trooper.

  2. I don’t believe that Neil needs another coach. What he needs is to employ someone to monitor the CQN live updates article and pass the information to the dugout. We are all experts and it’s bound to work. :-)

  3. fanadpatriot on

    The Job by Douglas Kennedy,and the rest of his books.If you have not read any,get started.

  4. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    cults…,

     

    so you get a lot of boys who have not kicked a ball, struggling with that one.

     

    Now wanting to segregate and be associated with good players might be a conflict, I thought kids football was about enjoying the game, at all levels its meant to be about fun for kids. Good players are a by product no the sole purpose.

  5. Aidan McGeadie came through the Glasgow Catholic School’s set up of playing 11 a side football. It would be hard to find a more skillful footballer to come out of Scotland in the last 15 years.

     

     

    Dylan McGeouch came through the same system. At the moment it’s difficult to think of a more exciting prospect than him.

     

     

    It’s not the number of players per team that is the problem it’s the coaching that goes on behind the scenes. The SFA have been a shambles for years and on several occasions have employed the ideas of continental countries 10 years too late.

  6. Clashcitybhoy on

    SFFS,

     

    It was Lenny , can’t remember the fine details, but earlier had been booked for dissent or similar.

     

    I have no doubt he would have and could have brought Kaka down around the halfway line.

  7. I keed of course because of Deb’s manliness (surprised that’s a word and I spelt it right first time).

     

     

    Thought the last season of Dexter was well below par, so many plot holes which even i cold spot a mile off. But the John Lithgow series is a classic.

  8. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    Neil C

     

     

    It’s the reality… Some people are better at football than others. No use pretending otherwise in my experience…

     

     

    I would like to have played for Celtic but I wasn’t good enough. I accepted that moved on with my ego SMS self esteem intact.

     

     

    In fact had I pulled the hoops on

     

    and been made to feel ( grossly) inferior by Lambert and McStay etc I think it would have had a damaging impact on me… Let alone the team.. :-)

  9. Hamiltontim

     

    ————

     

    The rest of the world would disagree with that. 11 a side, full pitches are not what we need.

  10. Holiday recommendations:

     

    Reading: The Book Thief is breathtaking in it’s ambition, the story is heartwarming, sad and funny. Buy it.

     

    Music: I know I’ve mentioned this album before on CQN but get Dexys newbie, blue eyed soul music for adults. Kevin Rowland – legend.

     

     

    If you have tinternet on holiday I recommend Rangers Media for absolute, hilarious stupid, comedy gold – hits the spot every time.

  11. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever

     

     

    11s football for young boys (and girls) of primary age is a joke. Some players are lucky to get a touch of the ball during the entire game, whilst their parents jump up and down at the side of the pitch as if they were watching a cup final.

     

     

    I dont believe in keeping scores for 4s and 7s although, as you say, the players do it anyway (plus i am not a great loser either)

     

     

    However, at whatever level football is played it needs to be competitive, regardless of whether or not scores are kept. In East Renfrewshire we have bene playing ‘non- competitive’ football – 4s and 7s – for about 10 years and i am certain it is the right way to go. However, i can assure you that it each game is competitive. There are ways of reducing the number of 10-goal humpings, e.g. allowing the other team to put on an extra player or two.

     

     

    10-goal humpings do no good for anyone – they piss of the players getting beaten whilst the winners get bored. At my own club, we have between 5 and 10 teams at each primary age group and split the better players across each of the teams in order to make it a more level playing field, although, in practice, our teams still win most games.

     

     

    In order to challenge our boys, we are looking at streaming the teams and putting some of the top teams into our associations such as the Paisley and District and Glasgow and District, the theory being that they – and the teams that remain in the current association – are all challenged.

  12. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    I would like to have been Paul McStay … But then nature didn’t make me that way …

     

     

    Nah nah nah nah na nah

  13. the huddle

     

     

    I’m talking about from under 12s and upwards. Also the concept of full size goals at this age is a nonsense.

     

     

    Can you think of a more skillful home grown player than Aidan in the last 15 years mate?

  14. Neil canamalar Lennon hunskelper extrordinaire on

    cults……,

     

    IMO secondary school should be the first competitive 11 aside league kids should encounter, up till then it should be all about the ball.

  15. Anyword on new signings ?

     

     

    Not heard much apart from Rhodes,cox and mills.

     

     

    Disappointed Fraser deal was done weeks ago.. He been at parkhead long enough to know if it’s what he wants or do use think Lenny keeping his options open ?

  16. benjybhoy mul on 5 June, 2012 at 16:42 said:

     

    ”Holiday recommendations:

     

    Reading: The Book Thief is breathtaking in it’s ambition, the story is heartwarming, sad and funny. Buy it.”

     

     

     

    Buy???

     

     

    Why not enter into the spirit of the thing and steal it?

  17. hamiltontim on 5 June, 2012 at 16:34 said

     

     

    Coaching is not the only issue – athough i agree that most coaches attend their SFA courses because they have to and then just ignore what they have learned and revert to the crap that they learned when they were boys.

     

     

    Even with the best coaching, a nine year old by playing left back in an 11s game will be lucky to touch the ball half a dozen times a game. The same player in a 4s or 7s game should receive touch the ball every few seconds – only with practice will they improve. Players like Aiden McGeady (whom i am certain did play 4s and 7s in East Renfrewshire, although he probably played school football as well) will have shone despite playing ‘big boy’ football rather than becuase. The objective of small-sided games is to try to give more players the opportunity to reach their potential – i know i would have been a far better player had i received the coaching that i give my players now, and had i been able to play 4s or 7s on grass pitches rather than 11s on crappy red ash pitches, where we won medals for being able to kick the ball dead far to the guys playing up front

  18. I thought kids in the Celtic development set up weren’t allowed to play for their schools?

  19. benjybhoy mul on 5 June, 2012 at 16:42 said:

     

    Holiday recommendations:

     

    Reading: The Book Thief is breathtaking in it’s ambition, the story is heartwarming, sad and funny. Buy it.

     

     

    Seconded. Superb book.

     

     

    Mort

  20. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice will always prevail on

    Headtheball on 5 June, 2012 at 16:33 said:

     

     

    So correct ……we could revolutionise the game globally

     

     

    “right, here we go ……go oot there and put the baw in the fekin net…..a mean, how hard is that …..5 strikers at the back, 3 defenders oan the line and 2 mid fielders jumping’ back and forward as required …….. If they score we change to the orcs model……..huv a wee word in the refs ear…..simples

  21. hamiltontim on 5 June, 2012 at 16:45 said

     

     

    Can you think of a more skillful home grown player than Aidan in the last 15 years mate?

     

    ———————-

     

    He’s easily our best/most valuable player we produced in the last 15 years.

  22. Sir Paul

     

     

    Ah wullnae comment on the Thompson Sad Tale

     

     

    But, Ah wull.. oan the Fraser Foster wan.

     

     

    Yep..that is a sad tale..an awe.

     

     

    Fraser, is testing Celtic’s Patience, while he plays hard tae get.

     

     

    And Celtic’s Patience diz hiv it’s limits.

     

     

    Kojo

     

     

    Still, Laughin’

  23. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    Gscbhoy

     

     

    I’m focussing on school football rather than Boy’s club.

     

     

    I run a boys club (2002 age group) also and we are in the Grampian A league and we play to win every game. From our group of 9 ( it’s 7’s games) we have 1 at Celtic, 4 at Abedeen develpment programme and 2 at SfA elite goalkeeping programme. So

     

    They are a strong team. I believe they are coached as I’ve had them for 3 years and they come from same school. Other strong teams tend to poach best players dumping less developed kids in the process.

     

     

    If kids want a different challenge then as far as I’m concerned they choose B, C or D level football.

     

     

    However returning to school football.. I feel there has to be an opportunity for better players to compete to win a league.

     

     

    Pretending all kids are the same is delusional… I find this generally only applies to football as there are other sporting opportunities where trophies and medals are awarded.

     

     

    I find a lot of prejudice towards children’s football from Local Authority folk.

  24. Greenlion2 on 5 June, 2012 at 16:30 said:

     

     

    Pullman, trilogy of books, “His Dark Materials”.

     

    Northern Lights, The Subtle Knife and the Amber Spyglass.

     

    They about the struggle between God(the Authority, the Church and freedom of choice).

     

    Movie of the first book, named “the Golden Compass” bears no resemblance to the books at all.

     

    Another would be “The River God” by Wilbur Smith, ancient Egytian tale, power struggle for the throne. excellent book.

  25. gscbhoy (they ARE a dead parrot) on 5 June, 2012 at 16:53 said:

     

     

    I think you make really good points but I’m not advocating playing 11 a side before children reach 11 years of age. In my opinion we should be playing competitive 7 a side games up until primary 6 and only then should there be a change to 11 a side games with smaller goals.

     

     

    Incidentally Aidan definitely played 11 a side at primary school :-))

  26. 5 a sides are fun, it’s why as old guys we still play it. As kids it was also more fun that 11 a side.

     

     

    You played for fun then as soon as you lined up in a 11 a side game you forgot the fun and stuck to the game plan, marked your man, ran all day, sometimes played the hard man. It wasn’t really fun anymore.

     

     

    11 a side is easy if you are good no matter how you were trained, it’s easy to pick up.

  27. ernie lynch on 5 June, 2012 at 16:55 said

     

     

    Dont get me started on that crap! I played for three teams when is was a teenage (Sat morning for school, Sat p.m. for St Mary’s Boys Guild, Sun p.m. for whoever was looking for players – i would have played Sun a.m. as well but i couldnt find anyone who played then!). I dont ever remember saying that i didnt want to play because i was too tired

     

     

    I doubt Jimmy Johnstone ever said, nah i dont fancy playing down the park or playing for the school because i am too tired.

     

     

    I dont believe in the pro-youth concept either. I have seen some of the football played and, certainly for younger age groups, it is garbage. Even teams in older age groups, such as Hearts, Falkirk, East Fife and some Queens Park teams i have senn, play long-ball stuff with parents hooping with delight when they score a goal from a punt. I took a team up to u19s last season (i now run a girls section) and if they played some of the football that alleged ‘pro youth’ teams play i would have been less than happy with them (my most used line was ‘at what training session did i tell you it was ok to punt the ball when your teammate was standing 10 yards away).

     

     

    Bah humbug!

  28. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    Ernie lynch

     

     

    Thee is distinction between development programme and signed players. When you sign you are discouraged from playing school football and practically it is difficult as you are playing at same time.

     

    2 of my boys club have turned down signing until they are older as parents want social experience of boys club / school with their mates until they go to secondary school.

  29. long haired yins man on

    Scrolling back I see some comments on big Elvis in the hoops. Very smart, articulate big guy who if I remember correctly tore Keith ” wealth of the radar” Jackson live on Scotsport or Sportscene when Jacksie said that THG was a liability and nut job at Celtic. Big Elvis told him directly since he played with Artur what did Jacksie know about what goes on in the Celtic dressing room……class…

  30. hamiltontim on 5 June, 2012 at 17:02 said:

     

     

    According to the guys who run Busby Boys Club they were responsible for the development of the young Aiden but he no doubt played school football as well. Rightly or not, certainly in East Renfrewshire, club football long ago overtook school football, although some schools here also run teams in the 4s and 7s set up.

     

     

    Anyway, i could talk about this one all day (at last, something i feel i know what i am talking about!) so feel free to ignore me if i go on any more rants!

  31. BIg Elvis’ son is meant to be a good talent, striker as well (who’d have thought), a tim as well (not that it matters).

  32. On Books, Tom Franklins Crooked Letter, Crooked Letter and The late William Gays The Long Home are two fine pieces of “Southern” American writing..

  33. greenlion2

     

     

    Summer book club:

     

    The law and taxation of remuneration trust

     

    by Paul Baxendale – walker

     

    He also does videos

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