Sunday’s defeat to Celtic was by no means Hibernian’s worst result of the season. The previous week they lost 3-0 at St Mirren. Earlier in the League Cup, they won against Peterhead, Queen’s Park and Elgin, but lost on a trip over The Bridge to Kelty Hearts, a sore one on more than one level.
Celtic’s visits to Easter Road have seldom been so straightforward, so confidence is high ahead of Sunday’s repeat encounter. Brendan Rodgers will be wary of how he tripped up at the corresponding round of the League Cup a year ago. That tournament is the only occasion he has not won a domestic competition over his two periods as Celtic manager, but he is likely to make his selections with an eye on the weeks ahead.
Kyogo’s delicate shoulder, and Adam Idah’s limited action since his virtuoso performance at Hampden in May, gives the manager a dilemma. Who to play up front? Rocco Vata will be unaware of what he passed up when leaving Celtic, until later in life. The third striker role remains open, for now.
Hampden has the largest car park I have seen in front of a football stadium. Ibrox, on the other hand, has no car park at the front of the stadium, disgruntled fans cannot loiter on Edmiston Drive.
Despite Hampden’s neutral acre out front, you wonder if even this car park will be big enough to host the Great Disgruntled, should St Johnstone win tomorrow.
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Good fun reading Burnley78’s posts this morning (7.34am et seq) but it’s Greenpinata at 8.30am who makes a serious point.
Greenpinata / Fieldofdrams (great moniker)
Celtic is a CL team.
We have underachieved there but we have still got there 3 out of past 18 seasons. Our rivals have done it once.
That is a bigger and more lucrative result than Europa finals.
The dynamics of the game outside of our control in Europe make it tricky but we are now positioned to kick on like never before.
Would you really prefer to by lying with your throat cut again for 2 final appearances in 18 years in the lower level cup. While winning nothing domestically ?
Some good recent Hampden memories appeared in my x account enjoy ⚽👍🍀🔥
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Apologies I meant we have achieved last 16 there which is more lucrative than a europa final.
Greenpinata
Espanyol have even reached a europa final fyi.
GREENPINATA on 17TH AUGUST 2024 8:30 AM
Burnley78 on 17th August 2024 7:47 am
I really dont understand why you focus so much on what ” Rangers” do our have done.
Your attempt to ridicule them has actually highlighted that a basket case of a club have reached 2 European finals.
I regard European football as our benchmark. What have we done in Europé during this time. ?
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Would you trade positions with them? Just so we could say we’ve reached 2 European finals?
I certainly wouldn’t. Frustrating we don’t do better in Europe. However, they seem to carry a lot of luck in Europe, which seems to have run dry recently.
We have been very unlucky in a lot of close European games. Some where would should’ve or could’ve won or drawn, but ended up losing. Poor officiating has seen us off a few times as well.
I’ll take continued domestic dominance and the odd run in Europe over what they’ve done the last 12 years.
Burnley 78.
Sorry I disagree. CL may be more lucrative, but from a fans perspective any European final is the pinnacle.
To date Seville is my highlight. Imagine we had won it . The road to Seville in 2003 seems like yesterday. I want more of it .
Look at West Ham celebrating a European conference win. We should not be too proud to do similar if tje occasion arises.
To reiterate and I know you will disagree, but European football must be our benchmark. And To be perfectly honest I dont really care what European trophy.
HH.
Burnley78 on 17th August 2024 7:47 am
You believe sir David. Tenner for Fiver and Floating pitches…
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😂Made my morning brighter on another piss poor summer day😎
Last weekend Argentina beat the All Blacks in a tight game of rugby. This led to much hyperbole/nonsense about a reordering of world rugby.
Fast forward 7 days and with 15 minutes left to play they are currently being pumped 42-3.
Just shows you anything can happen on any given day, but never be quick to extrapolate.
Melvin Udall on 17th August 2024 9:12 am
We are a well run club, not a basketcase of a club. But Burnley 78 highlighted that even a Basketcase of a club has reached 2 European finals in the timeline he illustrated.
I want us to be the best we can be. I want us to grasp the prize for domestic football dominance. European football and legendary nights is that prize.
While acknowledging and celebrating our domestic success i do not feel we are optimising our European journies.
To state we can and should be doing better in Europe is not negative. More like constructive criticism which I feel we will improve on.
Im absolutely delighted that BR is back with us. I have never wavered that he was and is the best fit manager to take us forward.
Here is a hypothetical question for you. :-
What would raise the profile of our manager more. Continued doubles, trebles or a European trophy? And why ?
Cheers and HH.
Greenpinata
Seville was great after 22 years of no Europe post Xmas. It was the poor relation as a competition though. It still is only more so in new format compared to the CL
The best of nights for me are CL. Wins v the very best. Man U and Barcelona and Benfica and Milan stand out. Beat the best at their best. The music and the fanfare. The stadium rocking with hope and expectation and energy. At the top table.
Greenpinata
For us to qualify for europa we would need to have lost the league. Would you really want that ?
Blogger formerly known as GM
Would you not love a few of those ‘on any day’ results in Europe this year ?
Just one and wins v the pot 3 and 4 teams would see us through.
It’s possible.
Morning all.
Very possible 👍
Greenpinata
It really would be life in the slow lane aiming for the lower European comps imo.
Possibly sharing a smaller to pot with rangers or hearts and trips to Baku and Bucharest etc.
EPL teams not really taking it seriously until last 16 at earliest.
Not for me.
GREENPINATA on 17TH AUGUST 2024 9:16 AM
Burnley 78.
‘Sorry I disagree. CL may be more lucrative,
but from a fans perspective any European final is the pinnacle.’
Not THE pinnacle, rather A pinnacle. Nevis and Everest are not the same.
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Burnley78 on 17th August 2024 9:56 am
For us to qualify for europa we would need to have lost the league. Would you really want that ?
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I am aware that European football has changed for 2024 / 2025 onwards. Teams can no longer drop down.
Lets hope we make significant progress in the new formated Champions League.
Let’s also hope that our club prices the tickets competitively and keeps faith with our fans.
Cheers and HH.
Tobago Street on 17th August 2024 10:09 am
Yes, Everest sell double glazing.
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Who is that Bhoy?
GREENPINTA ,To much complacency on here especially regarding Rangers we should mind how the biggest majority of our own fans are treated with this present senior citizens Board ,they are the most selfish directors who look to there own interests, freebies travelling all over the world and all expenses free,while they serve up second class food outlets ,at ridiculous prices,£4/20 for a mince pie,etc just a example, lack of toilet facilities especially for women ,but that’s OK as long as we beat Rangers and win the league, so let’s be more critical of the going owns at our club.
Celtic can charge me a tenner for a pie and my wife can just haud her pish in till we get hame as long as we beat R2angers and win the league…
Weebobbycollins on 17th August 2024 10:26 am
:-)))))))
https://x.com/AmzWee/status/1824548259941208506?t=nrd6NctzU-5WHNvUfJLHRQ&s=19
Timbhoy163 on 17th August 2024 10:22 am
Touché
Cheers and HH.
South Africa v The Wallabies about to kick-off if anyone’s in need of sport to watch👍
Sturm Graz
Sparta Prague
Sporting L
PSV
Arsenal
Juventus
Real Madrid
Bayern M
A random list of possibles.
We would need 16 points to be top 8
We would need 11 points to be top 16
We would need 8 points for qualification to play off round.
Remember when we were a force
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f0IPA5kw7sU&t=3s&pp=ygUgNSB0aW1lcyBjZWx0aWMgc2hvY2tlZCBiaWcgdGVhbXM%3D
H.H.
Greenpinata
“To state we can and should be doing better in Europe is not negative. More like constructive criticism which I feel we will improve on.”
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Your right it is not necessarily a negative assertion but neither is it constructive criticism. It is critical, therefore it is criticism but any coach knows it is not constructive at all to say you should be doing this, that or the other better. That is simply negative criticism- you’re not good enough yet.
For it to be constructive, a coach has to advise and show how it should be done better- then it becomes constructive.
Sign better players! is not constructive criticism – it is just an aspiration, an exhortation and it implies a negative evaluation saying “you lot are not good enough at all!”
Sign Adam Idah because he has a skillset that contrasts with Kyogos’ and gives us 2 different ways to beat a defence” is constructive criticism because you have constructed a potential solution to what you’ve identified as a weakness.
You may not be right about Adam but it remains constructive advice that people can act on.
Most of what we get on the blogs is just venting, moaning and complaining. Nobody on the receiving end thinks it’s constructive at all and so it is rightly ignored. Boards, Coaches and players will be aware of fan unrest but they won’t be reading Fan Blogs to discover ways to better the team. Most of us are just Talking the Talk without ever having Walked the Walk at any serious professional level.
Fullname: Robert Murdoch
aka: Bobby Murdoch, Murdy, Sam, Chopper
Born: 17 August 1944
Birthplace: Rutherglen, Scotland
Died: 15 May 2001, aged 56
Signed: 23 October 1959
Left: 17 September 1973 (to Middlesbrough)
Position: Midfielder, Right-half
Debut: Hearts home 3-1, League Cup, 11 August 1962
Last game: Arbroath away 3-1, League Cup, 29 August 1973
First goal: Hearts home 3-1, League Cup, 11 August 1962
Last goal: Partick Thistle home 1-1, League, 10 February 1973
Internationals: Scotland
International Caps: 12 Caps
International Goals: 6 goals
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“Bobby Murdoch is my complete footballer.”
Herrera (Inter Milan Manager) in the aftermath of Lisbon 1967
“As far as I’m concerned, Bobby Murdoch was just about the best player I had as manager.”
Jock Stein
A great time to be a Celt.
Well said 👏👏
garygillespieshamstring on 16th August 2024 9:02 pm
magic wee meander through another part of glasgow history, fascinating, ta for that
“To me Bobby Murdoch will go down as one of the finest Celts ever. He was absolutely magnificent and could have played for any team at any level. The phrase “world class” is a bit overused, but he was that and a little bit more. Sometimes people forget that.”
Bertie Auld
Imo, Bobby Murdoch is THE most important player to wear the jersey in my 70 years watching Celtic. Best of the best. As Jock Stein said “when Bobby plays, Celtic play”.
Scullybhoy
Just read your wee pen pic of Bobby Murdoch.
Didn’t realise til I saw the “”last goal” bit that I realised that when I was getting excited about Bobby scoring Celtic’s 6000th goal it was also the last goal he would score for Celtic.
Very fitting I think.
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