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I don’t know if Scotland have ever worn a poppy but I suspect the SFA have been landed in this issue against their will by association with the FA in England. Fifa have indicated it is a political symbol and prohibited its attachment to football shirts. The FA and SFA plan to disregard that ruling and wear the poppy anyway.

Deliberately defying the rules is laced with Moral Hazard for the SFA, which will not be lost on the decision makers at Hampden. For years to come this act will be cited as evidence of double standards. It provides evidence for those who object to its very recent inclusion in football ceremony on the basis that politics should have no place in football.

Of course, declining to follow the FA’s lead would be a political act in itself, but one which fell within the rules.

I’m firmly of the belief that politics (as opposed to values) should have no place in football. I know this is a utopian aspiration, as sport and politics are inextricably linked, but only because trumpets continually insist on making them so.

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  1. NatKnow on 3rd November 2016 12:31 pm

     

     

    Constitutionally it isn’t binding; in fact due to the nature of the British Constitution – or lack of it – there are many things that don’t have to be enacted but are accepted. However, in the spirit of democracy it should be actioned.

     

     

    I wonder what the reaction would be if, for instance, part of the UK were to vote for independence and this was put to a vote in the UK Parliament and rejected.

     

     

    KTF

  2. Paul67 I wonder if they will support a member club who are sanctioned by UEFA if their fans present a display that is spuriously deemed political?

     

     

     

    KTF

  3. According to Connor McNamara, it actually seems that FIFA object to the poppy because it is a “personal statement” not a “political symbol”. Both things banned by the same rule.

  4. THE BATTERED BUNNET @ 10:49 AM,

     

     

    Very well spotted and good shout.

     

     

    As you say, on the face of it, UEFA by their letter of response, are totally null envoiding the continuity Myth, up to and including the only thing that gives it credibility I.e. The SFA’s bogus “Membership Transfer”.

     

     

    Now did the UEFA licencing committee have all the necessary information when responding?

     

     

    Well they communicated with the SFA over this response… So…

     

     

    Did the SFA feel it was more “appropriate” to leave out the 5-way agreement’s leetle details, in their communiques?

     

     

    OR

     

     

    Were UEFA aware of the Membership Transfer claims and treated them as bogus?

     

     

    Either way… SFA… You lose.

     

     

    Interestingly enuff, if UEFA made it’s response “ignorant” of the “Membership Transfer Fact” Does it following that the Resolution 12 ghuys can have another popular!?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  5. VFR800A8 on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 12:45 PM

     

    NatKnow on 3rd November 2016 12:31 pm

     

     

     

    Constitutionally it isn’t binding; in fact due to the nature of the British Constitution – or lack of it – there are many things that don’t have to be enacted but are accepted. However, in the spirit of democracy it should be actioned.

     

     

     

    I wonder what the reaction would be if, for instance, part of the UK were to vote for independence and this was put to a vote in the UK Parliament and rejected.

     

     

     

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    UKIP will do very well in 2020 if Brexit is kicked into the long grass.

  6. THETIMREAPER on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 12:53 PM

     

    Aww ffs Tony

     

     

     

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    Maybe he stole the missing pages.

  7. VFR800A8 on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 12:45 PM

     

     

    NatKnow on 3rd November 2016 12:31 pm

     

     

    Constitutionally it isn’t binding; in fact due to the nature of the British Constitution – or lack of it – there are many things that don’t have to be enacted but are accepted. However, in the spirit of democracy it should be actioned.

     

     

    I wonder what the reaction would be if, for instance, part of the UK were to vote for independence and this was put to a vote in the UK Parliament and rejected.

     

     

    KTF

     

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    Can you explain clearly what flavour of Brexit it is that we’re apparently moving towards? Freedom of movement? Access to markets? Norwegian model? Swiss model?

     

     

    What the government is asking for is for us to trust them to do it in whatever way PM Theresa May decides. That’s the PM that is unelected by the peoople BTW.

     

     

    I think I’d rather that it was discussed/agreed in parliament so we at least get a chance to see what and how they intend to implement it.

     

     

    However, if “benevolent dictatorship’ is your bag then look not further than Edinburgh.

  8. TonyD 67

     

     

    You should ask for that to be deleted.

     

    The last page is already there to read on the old blog

     

    HH

  9. A gem from Alex Andreou (@sturdyAlex):

     

     

    BREXIT – A short play not by Harold Pinter

     

     

    A: I want to go.

     

    B: It’s pouring.

     

    A: I want to go.

     

    B: Go where?

     

    (beat)

     

    A: I don’t – I don’t to be here.

     

    B: Here.

     

    A: With you.

     

    B: With me.

     

    (beat)

     

    B: Remember that summer in Lisbon?

     

    A: Let me go.

     

    B: Not yet.

     

    A: Fascist.

     

    B: You’ll get wet.

     

    A: Pessimist.

     

    (B opens the door; long pause.)

     

    A: I’m not wet. You said –

     

    B: You’re still here.

     

    A: Yes.

     

    B: Yes.

     

    A: I’m still here.

     

    (beat)

     

    B: Are you going?

     

    A: Not right this minute, no.

     

    B: It’s pouring.

     

    A: I wanted to know I could.

     

    B: Shall I close the door?

     

    A: Can we talk about it?

     

    B: OK.

     

    A: Remember that summer in Lisbon?

  10. ....PFayr ..SACK THE BOARD on

    Great to see wee Izzy perform well on Tuesday

     

     

    Love his enthusiasm and effort

     

     

    Young players can learn a lot from him

  11. TONYDONNELLY67 on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 12:51 PM

     

    TD67 – I will delete your non-contentious C&P post @12:51.

     

    No harm done – please feel free to re-post what you actually intended the blog to read.

     

    HH

  12. Paul67

     

     

    Interesting essay, regan on radio this morning saying sfa and english fa are original members of fifa game (rule making) body.ie implying they are establishment and are not goin to be told what to do-

     

    Also heard fifa delegate explain why poppy is deemed political and why everyone else is weary of having any “memorial” insignia on a football shirt as his own reguon has been blighted by qar between various members.he suggest the actions will open the door

     

    to any nation to use rheir football team politically.

     

    HH

  13. Paul67

     

    The problem seems to be that the reason for wearing a poppy has moved away from the WW 1 and 2 to all conflicts which even some politicians call illegal wars, and want those who led us into these wars prosecuted, spare me the hypocrisy of the annual honouring the heroes which springs up at this time and is then forgotten about. Incidentally if all people due to pay tax did there would be more money to look after those in need, how come this does not strike a chord with the tax dodgers?

     

    What happened to the posts last night Paul?

  14. To be honest, I think we have some cheek in insisting politics stay out of football

     

     

    If support of the IRA isn’t a political statement I don’t know what is?

  15. TONYDONNELLY67

     

     

    Hey!!!

     

     

    That’s the longest time it’s taken me to scroll by one of your posts!

     

     

    :-(

  16. Barton turns up at Minty Park, parked away from 1st team car park, 2 minders on tow, carrying a ………green pair of boots, he’s totally taking the……:)

  17. EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 1:36 PM

     

    Trumpets like Sir Robert Kelly you should have wrote Paul67

     

     

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    And Brother Walfrid.

     

     

    And a host of others.

  18. !!Bada Bing!!

     

     

    Green boots? That’s nothing – apparently Bryan Ruiz (of Sporting Lisbon) showed up to training in a RED (colour of Benfica) Ferrari causing much commotion amongst staff.

  19. PHILBHOY on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 1:37 PM

     

    TONYDONNELLY67

     

     

     

    Hey!!!

     

     

     

    That’s the longest time it’s taken me to scroll by one of your posts!

     

     

     

    :-(

     

     

     

    Spelling and punctuation ok ?

  20. Politics and it’s place in football is an emotive subject but what about the politics of dancing,the politics of ooh feeling good,the politics of moving,is this message understood?

  21. Badabing

     

     

    Did joey have a wee box o cigars with him to ensure discipline wi the hunyoof

     

    :-)

     

    HH

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