I don’t know if Scotland have ever worn a poppy but I suspect the SFA have been landed in this issue against their will by association with the FA in England. Fifa have indicated it is a political symbol and prohibited its attachment to football shirts. The FA and SFA plan to disregard that ruling and wear the poppy anyway.
Deliberately defying the rules is laced with Moral Hazard for the SFA, which will not be lost on the decision makers at Hampden. For years to come this act will be cited as evidence of double standards. It provides evidence for those who object to its very recent inclusion in football ceremony on the basis that politics should have no place in football.
Of course, declining to follow the FA’s lead would be a political act in itself, but one which fell within the rules.
I’m firmly of the belief that politics (as opposed to values) should have no place in football. I know this is a utopian aspiration, as sport and politics are inextricably linked, but only because trumpets continually insist on making them so.
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thomthethim for Oscar OK on 3rd November 2016 3:19 pm
I think I will Brexit the blog for a while. Just Poppying out for a break.
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EU’re not the only one, I might need to keep CQN at armistice length too.
On the poppy debate, I have nought to add.
In my previous incarnation I wore it to honour my family’s service in 2 wars.
I remember my parents insisting on a minutes silence at 11 am on Remembrance Sunday.
In a household our size it wasn’t easily achieved. :-)
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/vRe politics in football, I am old enough to easily remember Bob Kelly withdrawing from a European Cup tie against Ferencvaros, spelling, after Russian tanks invaded Czeckoslovakia in 1968 to douse the Prague Spring.
And I am old enough to remember that Bob had no problems with playing in Portugal when armoured cars were circling the street. Then Boavista were a different proposition from Ferencvaros.
The remembrance poppy….
Inspired by a Canadian and his poem ‘In Flanders Girls’.
First sale of poppies in 1921
First Scottish poppies (Earl Haig) 1926
Purpose to find employment and housing opportunity for Great War ex-serviceman, mostly disabled by war. Natural extension following WW2
Date of overt commercialisation, militarisation and jingoism….from some point in the 1990s growing exponentially much to the detriment of the whole noble intent of its founding.
HH
NATKNOW on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:16 PM
It’s the conundrum of the unwritten British Constitution that leaves all of this open to debate, interpretation and question.
No-one voted for Brexit, the vote was to leave the EU. Possibly the elected representatives and Civil Servants should have made more of an effort and negotiated potential deals with Europe and then gone to the country. It was a throw-away promise by Cameron because he thought he would win it hands-down. He bet his political future and lost! Hee, Hee.
The most sensible thing you have said in weeks is that we should go for a pint!
KTF
Fields not Girls obviously……grrrrrr!
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:19 PM
Fully supported by the SNP of course.
ERNIE LYNCH on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:31 PM
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:19 PM
Fully supported by the SNP of course.
Whitabootery. The last resort of someone stuck for an answer.
Thirds63
Girls
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:33 PM
You’re not disagreeing that the SNP fully supported the introduction of Armed Forces Day?
Referendums……
Should be totally banned.
They are a corruption of a party based Parliamentary system.
It lets political parties avoid issues which may affect their ability to be elected or prevent fissures within the party. In other words party over nation politics. It’s cowardice.
It is a dereliction of a democratic duty for which they are all well paid.
So while I might be abused (not really!) for not accepting the Brevity “result”, I would have considered the alternative outcome as similarly invalid.
So there!
HH
Brevity = Brexit
Damnation!
DavidOp ….
Feck!
Lol
HH
Maybe all the servile Hun poppy-fascists should get a poppy tatooed on their foreheads to display their outstanding Britishness and let us all know just how good at ‘remembrancing’ they are.
The poppy is intrinsic to the unfolding horrors of the Great War and should have been left at that.
But then again the Nazis hijacked the Swastika too.
Godwin, I thank you.
ERNIE LYNCH on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:36 PM
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:33 PM
You’re not disagreeing that the SNP fully supported the introduction of Armed Forces Day?
What the SNP did or did not do, does not absolve Gordon Brown from his role in promoting jingoism.
As I posted previously. There is no point to resorting to whitabootery.
The belter from last year summarises where football is going with poppy-facism:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/picture/2015/nov/10/david-squires-on-football-and-remembrance-day
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:43 PM
So if it’s wrong for Gordon Brown to promote jingoism, does that mean it’s wrong for the SNP to promote jingoism?
Or is that not how it works?
*This
Obvs.
THIRDS63 on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:39 PM
Referendums……
Should be totally banned.
They are a corruption of a party based Parliamentary system.
Sadly, until it introduces some form of PR our party based Parliamentary system itself is corrupt and unrepresentative of the will of the people. EG.In 2015, between them the Greens and the repugnant UKIP got five million votes, and only got two seats in Parliament.
I think it would be far better for the British Government to prevent their contemporary armed forces from requiring assistance for injuries,loss of limbs,mental health problems etc. by not placing them in danger in the first place by having them occupy foreign countries in the pursuit of profit and power in the guise of freedom and democracy.
There’s plenty of lucre to be made from Afghanistan poppies,mind.Although I think the CIA have that market covered.
Phoney wars,eh!?Poppycock.
ERNIE LYNCH on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:51 PM
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:43 PM
Ernie.
Getting you to say anything condemnatory about Labour is more difficult that getting BFDJ to criticise THEM.
Do people realise that we only have TWO weekend Home games between now and the 28th of January? As one of those games is this Saturday, we then have a gap of nearly TWELVE weeks before another Saturday Home Game. Twelve bloody weeks. For those with a longish way to travel, mid-week games can cause problems so how was this gap allowed to develop?
JJ
HOT SMOKED on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:57 PM
Do people realise that we only have TWO weekend Home games between now and the 28th of January? As one of those games is this Saturday, we then have a gap of nearly TWELVE weeks before another Saturday Home Game. Twelve bloody weeks. For those with a longish way to travel, mid-week games can cause problems so how was this gap allowed to develop?
Because the fans are the last consideration of those who run the game.
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:43 PM
It says it all about Gordon Brown’s lack of decency and his psychotic pursuit of the premiership, that while he was posing with his support of the poppy, he was cutting his army’s helicopter budget by 38% while they were involved in the Iraq fiasco. This obviously resulted in soldiers walking and driving patrols due to the lack of helicopter capability. He condemned many of them to mutilation and worse due to IED casualties. He is just the guy that you would wish for as PM….NOT. Driven by his hate of that other poser Bliar. A mental git.
QUONNO on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:55 PM
I vote Labour. I’m not and never have been a member of the Labour Party. I think their approach is fundamentally flawed, but the worst Labour government is better than the best Tory government. And the nats are Tories in all but name.
ernie and quonno
Let me help you out here:
Promotion of jingoism is sickening and both the SNP and Gordon Brown were/are guilty of so doing.
How`s that?
JJ
` And the nats are Tories in all but name.`
I think the Nats might be even worse !
Anyway, enough of this stuff; what about our team for Saturday?
Gordon
Lustig Toure Svietchenco Izaguirre
Forrest Brown Armstrong Rogic Sinclair
Dembele.
Subs to be used:
Roberts, McGregor or Biton, Griffiths to replace : Forrest or Sinclair, Rogic and Dembele respectively.
JJ
Hot Smoked
don’t think Kolo will be fit – would start Roberts with Forrest on the bench
HOT SMOKED…
Will Jozo not be back in contention?
Poppy debate at Defcon 2 already……this could be a record for CQN…
BR also revealed that @SimunovicJozo & @Leighgriff09 are available for the @ICTFC game after injury but Kolo Toure remains sidelined.” (MH)
OK, taking on board all the latest information, the back four is now:
Lustig, Simunovic, Svietchenco , Izaguirre.
I can see the appeal of starting with Roberts but, if we are using both Patrick and jamesie, I feel Paddy makes a greater impact coming on later. It is a nice problem to have and GMS might just add to those problems soon. I have a felling Brendan rates Gary Mac.
Anyway,good to get a wee bit of Celtic talk but cheerio for now,
JJ
I don’t want you Bhoys getting a ticket speeding down to the off license………..HH
http://mashable.com/2016/03/31/vagina-beer/#1doq1S.fYuqN
Gordon
Lustig Jozo Eric Izzy
Brown Armstrong
Paddy Rogic Sinky
Moussa
Afternoon All.
Child Homelessness is at an eight year high with over 120,000 kids likely to wake up homeless on Christmas Day.
See here: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/03/child-homelessness-christmas-eight-year-high-shelter-12000-children-temporary-accommodation.
This is a real blight on our society.
The Celtic Charity Foundation exists to help the needy and poor in our we neck of the woods and there will be plenty such Children in West Central Scotland and the immediate surrounding area.
The Foundation is the charity arm of OUR FOOTBALL CLUB and is the very reason for there being a club in the first place.
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So said our founding fathers over a decade before there was a Gladbach to Monchen on!
Please support the foundation by making a donation, no matter how small, and if necessary sponsoring me or one of the others taking part in the forthcoming charity sleepout on 12th November.
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Thanks
BRTH
A lot of politics on today so here goes………..
A great put down from a black female attorney in Chicago………..
http://blakpac.com/blog/2016/ 10/7/black-female-trump- supporter-leaves-news-anchors- speechless
HOT SMOKED on 3RD NOVEMBER 2016 3:57 PM
I blame the SFA computer he’s called Campbell Baxter – sometimes known as Billy Two Soups.
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