You want some good news? Around £1m of Tottenham’s money for Victor Wanyama will find its way to Celtic, which will offset some of the economic impact of this morning’s news. This aside, there is only bad news. If we want to buy footballers priced in euros (or anything other than GPB) they will cost more money. We will also have to pay higher wages to be competitive with European clubs.
Goods will cost more – it will start today with fuel and travel, then food, electrical goods and everything else. Wages will buy less (not just less-able footballers). Borrowing repayments will be higher. Business expenditure, wages and employment will drop, so will the tax take – and money available for welfare spend. The poor always pay the highest penalty.
If you are rich enough and without a mortgage you can indulge in flag waving all day, happy in a delusion that self-determination even remotely exists in modern economies. Or that more self-determination over here, and a little less over there, is a panacea. It’s not, it’s just another economic crisis coming your way soon.
The entire political class have failed us. Calling a flag waving referendum was a grubby attempt to hold onto power by the prime minister; this mess is his making. Whoever succeeds him will have to successfully pander to the same party membership in order to get elected.
Jeremy Corbyn’s mealie-mouthed campaigning was an embarrassment. His “7 out of 10” backing for remain did what it was supposed to do: convince people he was going through the motions for something he didn’t believe in.
Who’s ever heard of a leader winning support for an issue he is prepared to back 7 out of 10 himself? He should go, but political ego will ensure he’ll hang around to make sure Johnson wins the next general election.
It took six days for the Greek government to abandon their own disastrous EU referendum mandate. Instead of attempting a rescue, all our political ‘leaders’ will give us is more populist power grabs. It’s already underway.
1,847 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- ...
- 49
- »
Can anyone please clarify the process of applying for an Irish passport as I’m guessing it’s going to take a while.
My grandparents are Irish, do I need to apply for citizenship 1st or can I apply for a passport on it’s own?
Paul, you sound liike George Osborne.
Met a couple of fishermen this morning that I used to play Sunday league with. On their way out to celebrate. They see a shiny silver lining.
Shiny Dave resigns, the Bullingdon boys scrapping with each other, tearing up the tory party; Labour may finally realise mealy-mouthed appeasing political correctness has no gravitas with a populous aching for solid promises and a prosperity plan.
Maybe we’ll get some viable economic solutions instead of self-aggrandized supercillious wankers with no real-world experience telling us they know best because they won the discussion in the students union twenty years ago.
Maybe not. Probably not; they can’t get past being consumed by their own divine fires.
But on the bright side – expect by the season starting the pound to be up and the euro crashing; that’ll negate the footballers’ wages/fee anxiety. Brexit’s a bigger longterm loss to the continent than to these Isles. Worldwide, the markets will be kinder to the pound by far.
And we might also get back to having some properly curved bananas now…
HRVATSKI JIM on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:06 PM
Labour MPs submit motion of no confidence in Jeremy Corbyn
——————————————————————————————
What is it about political parties, especially the British Labour Party, losing touch with its traditional supporters, don’t eejits like Margaret Hodge understand?
For years she and her ilk have held the voters in utter contempt whilst they have greased their own palms and lived in relative comfort and security as millions subsist on zero-hours contracts, national minimum poverty wages and many are forced to pay up to 60% of their meagre earnings over to exploitative landlords who are creaming it in much the same way as the political elite who run this country do.
This referendum wasn’t just about the EU. It was about the mainstream super rich establishment and corrupt bankers telling the poor what’s good for them and why we have to retain the status quo. Usually they get away with it but this time they didn’t and they got a good kicking. Well, fan-dabby-dozy as far as I’m concerned. Well done the poor says I.
Now we need to resurrect the labour and trade union movement to protect and advance workers rights. It’s not the European Union that will protect workers rights, it’s Trades Unions….for all their faults and they have many.
Oh yes, let’s ditch Jeremy Corbyn says Margaret Hodge and then what? ……replace him with another new labour automaton like Chukka Umunna perhaps??? That would be the final nail in the coffin of the British Labour Party.
This is what your next Prime Minister Boris the animal thinks of you. You don’t need to look hard for direct anti Scottish dribble from his own taffy mouth. Insanity is not too harsh a word for what comes next.
Boris Johnson and his view of the Scots (self.Scotland)
submitted 1 year ago by mrlithic
As Boris Johnson has now publicly entered the fray with regards the Referendum I thought it might be time to resurrect this poem about the Scots and Scotland that he had published during his time as editor on the Spectator. It was penned by the poet James Michie who Mr Johnson described as “one of the most distinguished poets…of the 20th century.”
The Scotch – what a verminous race!
Canny, pushy, chippy, they’re all over the place.
Battening off us with false bonhomie;
Polluting our stock, undermining our economy.
Down with sandy hair and knobbly knees!
Suppress the tartan dwarves and the Wee Frees!
Ban the kilt, the skean-dhu and the sporran
As provocatively, offensively foreign!
It’s time Hadrian’s Wall was refortified
To pen them in a ghetto on the other side.
I would go further. The nation
Deserves not merely isolation
But comprehensive extermination.
We must not flinch from a solution.
(I await legal prosecution.)
Scratcher. Night all have a treat weekend. Hail Hail
BENJYBHOY MUL on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:52 PM
‘Project Fear worked on the Scots in 2014, it will not work again.’
###
It turned out that if the vote had gone the other way Scotland would have become independent facing a £15b budget deficit with worse to come next year.
That was way, way worse than anyone had predicted.
To put it another way, Project Fear had actually severely understated the economic consequences of leaving the UK.
SANDMAN on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:01 PM
Paul, you sound liike George Osborne
oooh thats harsh!
it’s difficult to see a silver lining in all this when the political fallout means we’re going to get a for more right wing leadership than anything we’ve had in a long time.
JonnyRambo67 on 24th June 2016 12:59 pm
Must be a citizen, I believe
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/travel_abroad/passports/applying_for_or_renewing_an_irish_passport.html
HH
CELTIC40ME on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:46 PM
CHAVEZ on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:43 PM
He might be in touch with the voters but he’s no leader
————————————————————————————————————-
Corbyn is far from perfect but he’s a breath of fresh air compared to the so-called “leaders” such as Blair and Brown. I’d much rather a honest politician than a “leader” who is prepared to lie to get their way which of course ultimately led to an illegal war in Iraq which led to hundreds of thousands of dead and maimed and ISIS.
Corbyn is right about this country needing a different kind of politics. Honesty from our politicians would be a good start.
TRADITIONALIST88 on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:08 PM
———
Much obliged
Celtic40me,
Can’t agree its a mess, it looks like the best opportunity to fix the EU that will ever come along, and for all the knicker wetters, nothing has actually happened except the Brexit vote has given the next EU President a mandate to change the EU’s priorities, yer worryin about snaw an there’s nane fawin.
Oh and it’s the UK’s turn for the presidency, what a chance to get something right eh, the last few days we’ve had the big lies about the inevitable cataclysmic consequence of voting brexit, and what ? Nothing, zero, zilch it’s the usual pish from the usual end is nigh panic merchants who want to impose their choices based on their term and accusations against anyone who does not agree.
Everyone’s a xenophobic racist and that is the only possible reason they can have for voting brexit,
George Galloway, the morning star all xenophobic racists, geeze peace.
M6BHOY on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:08 PM
i agree about the need for openness and honesty, whats obvious from the referendum is that people are sick of the ruling elite in westminster. But not being brown or blair doesn’t make you a good enough leader to win a general election.
Joined Betfair yesterday to get the introductory offer of 3/1 to Stay in te referendum . Last political bet I had was a good punt on Heath to beat Thatcher in the Tory leadership race. So….the bookies don’t always get it right. Have to study the Euro knock out round to try and recoup !
M6BHOY on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:08 PM
I hear ye pal but you know what they say
A lie is sweet in the beginning but bitter in the end.
The truth is bitter in the beginning but sweet in the end.
Is it likely that other countries will now follow suit?
JJ
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:11 PM
thats one way of looking at it.
JONNYRAMBO67 on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:59 PM
Can anyone please clarify the process of applying for an Irish passport as I’m guessing it’s going to take a while.
My grandparents are Irish, do I need to apply for citizenship 1st or can I apply for a passport on it’s own?
My Dad got his Irish passport last year through a grandparent I think – I got mine as my mother is Irish
JONNYRAMBO67
Check the list of papers you need on the embassy website e.g I needed my Mum and Dad’s wedding certificate, call them up to check you’ve got everything they need and send it off.
I got my by post I didn’t even need to go to Bern but it may be different if your getting on your grandparents.
The embassy could not have been more helpful..
Anybody blamed Ronny?
HOT SMOKED on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:14 PM
‘Is it likely that other countries will now follow suit?’
###
Such a prospect ensures that a post exit UK will get no favours when negotiating deals with the EU.
Pour decourager les autres.
celtic40me on 24th June 2016 1:07 pm
SANDMAN on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:01 PM
Paul, you sound liike George Osborne
oooh thats harsh!
it’s difficult to see a silver lining in all this when the political fallout means we’re going to get a for more right wing leadership than anything we’ve had in a long time.
===============================
lol.
On the contrary, this result has shattered the elitist Tory nazis – and any new leadership (the honey monster?) will realise they cannot take the voting public for granted; they’ll need to curb the arrogance and conceit – Cameron’s decision to call the referendum will be his legacy: political suicide by a complacent fool of a toff, born without the insight an edge would give him.
And that’s what Labour need – someone from the real world with an edge and a plan. Once they stop discussing how to correctly define a lesbian by endless proportionally-represented committee and wake up they might relaise there’s a country up for grabs…
TAURANGABHOY on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:01 PM
He was in St Andrews yesterday for his daughter’s graduation.
Obviously the whole family must hate Scotland.
Football:
One mill from Big Vic. Nice. Now do we get Joe Allan?
Take that wee workhorse-with-guile in a minute,
Klopp doesn’t want him.
£5 million?
SANDMAN on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:21 PM
i hope you’re right about the tories – although i think a chancer like boris will look at the referendum and see potential in the disaffected nationalist voters. and theres only one way we’ll go with a reactionary winker like gove
and i agree about labour
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:43 PM
I’m looking forward to the pound crashing
———————————————————————————————————————-
Me tae… i’m a selfish bassa!
ERNIE LYNCH on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:20 PM
HOT SMOKED on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:14 PM
What many don’t realise is we weren’t the most Eurosceptic country in the EU. Several others including France has a bigger disdain for it that us.
So far we’ve had Marine Le Pen from the increasingly popular National Front, calling for a French ref.
Geert Wilders who even before last night was tipped to win the Dutch GE, calling for one and that’s on the back of 54% support for a ref in the Netherlands.
Right wing parties in Italy, Sweden and Denmark all calling for one.
The EU will be desperate to prevent contagion and will do UK no favours at all.
Now, when Scotland gets independence, as a Scot living in England, will I be able to get a Scottish/EU passport or will I have to go for Scottish Citizenship?
Just curious…
Hail Hail
Celtic should just try and develop our own players this year. Either that or get a couple of loan deals from English clubs. Maybe pick up bosman players from Britain.
Our squad is large enough already.
GK: Gordon, Bailly , Fasan
LB: Izzy, Tierney
RB: Lustig, Janko
CB: Ambrose, O’Connell, Boyata, Sviatchenko & Simunovic
CM: Ajer, Brown, Biton, Johansen, Rogic, Armstrong, Christie, Allan, McGreggor, Henderson
AM: Roberts, Nesbitt, Forrest, Commons, GMS
ST: Griffith, Aitchison, Ciftci, Scepovic
We effectively have a 30 man squad. I reckon we should be trying to shift 6 or 7 before making any signings.
Guys who we could shift:
Ciftci, Johansen, Ambrose, O’Connell, Allan, Armstrong, Forrest, Commons, Scepovic
Out on loan:
Henderson, Nesbitt & Aitchison
Bosman’s it would be worth looking at:
Robson-Kanu, McGovern, Danny Graham, Steven Fletcher, James Morrison, Gaston Ramirez, Marc Wilson, Sessegnon, Adrian Mariappa, Kolo Toure, Joey O’Brien
People we should try and loan:
Danny Ward, Jason Denayer, Brandon Barker (Man City)
We’re not going to get as much money for our players from Europe and we ain’t going to be able to afford players either. Let’s give Brendan a season to tweak and get rid of the deadwood.
Does anyone really believe Liverpool turned down £8m from Swansea for Joe Allan, who has only a year left on his contract?
First of all, Swansea would be mad to bid £8m for a player they could get on a Bosman in January.
Equally, Liverpool would be crazy to turn down that amount of money for a fringe player who can go for nothing in a few months time.
I smell a Daily Retard rat.
Chairbhoy
If you want one you should be able to.
I’ll be getting one if it happens
Image of Niko Kranjcer stealing title from Celtic
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.shutterstock.com%2Fz%2Fstock-vector-cartoon-thief-stealing-trophy-365895947.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shutterstock.com%2Fpic-365895947%2Fstock-vector-cartoon-thief-stealing-trophy.html&docid=y2cHhpdPuEHi7M&tbnid=wtfBR7BuC2y5kM%3A&w=1500&h=1300&bih=616&biw=360&ved=0ahUKEwiBqtSl1sDNAhXHkCwKHYI6CwoQMwgbKAAwAA&iact=c&ictx=1
BELFASTBHOY0 on 24TH JUNE 2016 12:52
No I didn’t say that.
Weeminger,
Your discounting the brexit decision might speed up other referendum and they take similar decisions before the UK have actually left putting further pressure on the EU for change.
SANDMAN on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:23 PM
Football:
One mill from Big Vic. Nice. Now do we get Joe Allan?
Take that wee workhorse-with-guile in a minute,
Klopp doesn’t want him.
£5 million?
_____________
I think Klopp does want him now. His performances for Wales and Liverpool have been impressive.
Also, there are other Premier League teams like Leicester City and Swansea City sniffing around for him. I’d be VERY surprised if we got him. Especially for that price.
SNAKE PLISSKEN @ 1:37 PM,
Sounds like a plan…
Hail Hail
A huge bungle, blithering idiots. I haven’t been to middle England for a while now, but I’m thinking it was the lack of an effective immigration policy that swung it for the brexiteers.
AULD TAM on 24TH JUNE 2016 1:36 PM
8 million is pocket change in England
Spurs just bought Wanyama for 11 million with 12 months left on his deal
Chairbhoy –
Assuming you are serious . . .
Depends what you want it for. If Scotland is independent within the EU, you just use your UK passport. Why would you need/want a Scottish passport?
Just heard that Klopp has offered Joe Allen a new deal after Sevco beat Liverpool to the signing of Kranjcer