I hear from good sources at Celtic Park that despite Victor Wanyama declining to sign a contract extension since October last year, the player is an absolute joy to deal with. His professionalism is well rooted; there have been no “rolled out of the pub” emails about this guy, nor is there likely to be.
There are usually reasons why a player with the best part of three years left on his contract (as it was) declines a one year extension for dramatically better wages (Victor is on an entry level contract and was offered a top pay deal). We now know discussions were taking place for a proposed move to QPR last summer.
According to Victor’s agent, Celtic blocked the proposed move, costing the player £1m in wages. It could be argued that advising Victor to decline Celtic’s new contract offer also cost Victor a substantial sum.
Herein lies the problem. QPR were paying the kind of money that would make Louis XVI wince. Staggering sums were paid to players, well beyond their value. Despite this, those very same players are now readjusting to life as lower-division players.
The irony has escaped Vic’s agent, but the contract value proposed to the player during QPR’s pre-guillotine era made declining Celtic’s offer almost a year ago look like a good idea. The contract offered by saner-Southampton clearly pales by comparison, which will make the decision to sit on entry-level wages at Celtic for nine months look ridiculous. Of course people are getting irritated, there are questions to answer about the advice given.
My guess is that the agent needs to pull a big contract offer out of the bag. Victor is a special talent but Louis XVI-type offers don’t always come along in twos. If Victor goes, it will be to a club matching Celtic’s valuation and the money will come in handy. If he stays, Celtic expect to retain their top player for another two years. No one, and I mean no one, is distressed at this prospect, after all, Celtic sell when they choose to, not because they have to.
So the Daily Record have (for the second time, in case you’ve not been paying attention) dipped their toes into Charlotte waters. Items “leaked on to the internet, where they are openly available” have been used, without reference to source, and without concern for apparent legal consequence.
As far as I am aware, none of the owners of the material leaked have disputed their authenticity or declined permission for it to be used. Our media are a huge part of this story, they feature in galling terms in many of the leaked documents. The cry of legal probity was convenient, but has twice been shown to be nonsense by the Daily Record (who have been highly selective on who to target).
It is a huge story.
There are months of material waiting to be written about.
The Daily Record are doing what many said cannot be done, without consequence.
But, this one does not fit popular narrative, and is likely to cause the kind of schism Mme Guillotine did in 18th century France. Seek Truth, as someone once said.
Willie Wallace………… what can we say?
Willie came onto CQN last night before leaving for Australia today. This is a taste of what he said:
“I just wanted to come back onto CQN this evening to say my farewells as myself and Olive head back to Australia tomorrow. I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks to all the Celtic supporters I have met during the past month, at book signing events, in supporters clubs such as Greenock and at the CQN Golf Day.
“Also to everyone at the Lions Roar event last Friday where Bertie stole the show as usual! I came all the way from Australia and I couldn’t get a word in! The 1254125 charity tells you everything you need to know about Celtic supporters.
What is amazing about this Celtic family of ours is that when you live at the other side of the world you still know that this is a special club with wonderful supporters. Then you come back to Scotland and realise you actually under estimated these things because Celtic is even better than you remember and the fans are truly amazing. The best in the world.
“To everyone on CQN can I say a very special thank you. I hoped that the book would go well and we’d sell a few copies but it was never about money – it was about telling my story. I arrived at Winning Captains house and was met by a mountain of books to sign – all ordered by the CQNers. I had to go back another day to finish signing and the mountain was as big as before! I’ve been avoiding him ever since!
To Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan – when I heard his name I thought that would be some round of drinks! He’s been great, helping make Heart of a Lion what it is – a really good Celtic book – and turning up at the CQN events and book signings.
“Thank you the CQN’ers.
“Thanks to the Celtic family and I look forward to our next trip home to Paradise.
“Hail Hail and all the best to each of you and your families.
“Willie Wallace
“Keep the Faith!
“Hail Hail!”
Willie, it has been an utter joy. Thank you.
Heart of a Lion:
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JONNY THE TIM
Happy to help-and frankly astounded!
LudditesCSC
Gordon_J,
Congratulations. I hope your book sells well.
Bravadosouprecipe – is it Bomber?
Also Sevconian, to gentler ears, can sound aggressive, even when they are just sayin ‘ ‘hello clouds, hello sky’.
DBBIA/ St Custards CSC
Thanks everyone.
Those who have promised to buy a copy are now on a top secret list stored at GCHQ. We will be in touch …
jonny the tim
As a couple others have said tap the top if your screen and that’ll take you to the top.
If on cqn and you want to load more comments but stay at the same one hit the “time stamp” below the posters name then refresh the page as before.
Dion’s Story
On the 26th of December 2012
I was enjoying watching my team
over the festive period. This
came to a quick end when I was
wrongly arrested under the
Offensive behaviour at Football
and Threatening
Communications act 2012 and
for apparently singing a song
supporting a terrorist
organisation.
I was held in custody over night,
I was then released on bail after
denying the charges at Dundee
Sherriff Court. As part of my bail
conditions I was informed that I
could not attend any Celtic away
matches until my trial was over.
This was terrible news as my life
revolved around watching Celtic.
The following day the national
newspapers published a story
which described the scenes as a
‘disgrace’ and ‘shambolic’ ,
completely exaggerating what
actually happened. My name
was printed across several
papers with one claiming that I
was demonstrating support for
terrorist organisations. I then
received a letter from Celtic
telling me I was banned from all
Celtic games until after my trial.
This was incredibly hard to take
as I was treated as guilty until
proven innocent instead of
innocent until proven guilty by
the club I love and have followed
home and away over the years
without incident .
I then had to attend court in
Dundee on three separate
occasions. After making three
trips from Glasgow to Dundee
and the judge examining all the
pieces of evidence they had,
producing a not guilty verdict.
This was a relief as I knew I had
not committed any crime so I
was determined to clear my
name. I then had to contact
Celtic FC to have my season
ticket reinstated however during
this time I had missed many
games that were part of my
season ticket, multiple away
games and the game in the last
16 of the Champions League
against Juventus.
I sincerely hope that the
legislation is scrapped when it is
reviewed to save any other
families and the stress this put
me and my own family through
at home and also at work .
Gordon J- if you don’t go on to sell a new world record number of your ole bodice rippin’ page turner I shall be very disappointed.
If you need a literary agent Summa of Sammi is very good.
He did the Kirk Numbnuts Cookbook, the only recipes you make wearin’ the ole Kevlar apron.
@STVkeith: Neil Lennon wants two more summer signings, and three if and when Victor Wanyama leaves.
Also said he believes vic will be away this summer.
DBBIA
Ha – no was another Sevconian apparently Bomber spontaneously combusted whilst taking a training session in Dundee.
All that was left were a pair of brogues *brown* and and a pile of dust.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
12:37 on 26 June, 2013
Off topic I’m afraid, but a little announcement for you all … my first novel is going to be published, hopefully later this year.
Publication!!
……………
Gordon, Congratulations on the publication. You should consider a teaser page or two to entice the reader to buy.
Off topic (!) question.
Why is it that when I follow certain links on CQN (such as yours) I cannot “back page” from it back to the CQN site, whereas with some other posted links I can?
HH
Proudbhoy,
You’re right about the young players….they all need to go on loan for the season.
I don’t think there is much between Lustig and Matthews. I think we played almost 60 games this season. If we do it again next season there will be plenty of opportunity for both to play!!
I disagree with playing Matthew left back. He was amazing there against Barcelona (from a defensive point of view). However it hurts our width and attack when he plays left back. He keeps cutting inside onto his right foot.
Anyway, good chatting to you buddy. It’s bedtime here in Sydney:-)
robinbhoy
Thanks. Got it sussed courtesy of BMCUW.
HH
tallybhoy
whats wrong with the east coast????????
BSR- he would not be undergoin’ spontaneous combustion; but he may be re-arranging his entire molecular structure; prior to re-emergin’ fitter and stronger.
greenyinfurrafenian
13:33 on
26 June, 2013
Carlo has family in portobello. Said al a italiano sounds like it could be on the riviera
so does SUNNY GO VAN.
Fitter, stronger but not smarter.
As the ole Olympics puts it : Citius, Altius, Stupidius.
Gordon_J
Fantastic…..congratulations …!!!!!!!!……you will let us know when it is ‘on the shelf’, I presume…
G-man
Well done on book buddy. Look forward to having a wee read.
Remember us ole CQN’ers when your first book is serialised on TV. Just a tab for an evening in the Pirate’s would be good.
MWD
RWE
Try opening links in a new window or tab.
You can then keep as many open at the same time as you wish.
It also means your original page does not have to reload when you return to it.
This can be more important if you are on a mobile outside a wi-fi area
Moonbeams WD.
Serialised? I’m going for the full scale Hollywood movie treatment. If it’s good enough for Dan Brown …
Happiness is comin’ back from the ole garden centre with a new attachment for the Hozelock.
‘Roger Federer has been told he cannot wear his orange-soled trainers again after they were judged to have broken Wimbledon’s all-white dress code.’
-should have stuck to the Dunlop green flash.
A rare error in taste from the Swiss maestro.
Gordon_j
Your in good company, Sally mc moist is on his first book aswell, but he’s finding reading the big words awfy hard :-)
Good luck pal and stick me down for a copy.
PC67
DBBIA
Ole Maximus Bardus Dimius whilst searching for the Deeds, returned home everyday empty handed, except for another new tattoo.
I know 12m is a hell of a lotta cash for a guy we signed for 900k, but…
I can’t help but think Celtic could have got more. If Southampton or Cardiff are willing to pay 12m, how much would a big club be willing to pay? Say Liverpool? Rumour has it they are willing to sell Henderson to fund a bid.
Or do you think Celtic are trying to start a bidding war?
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
Discount for CQN’ers ??
bsr,
You are in grand form today.
pedrocaravanachio67, Cheers. Is it a recipe book?
quantum, Not sure my publisher would like that idea.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
12:43 on
26 June, 2013
twists n turns,
It is a work of fiction. the standard disclaimer about “no resemblance to real people, alive or dead” will be added.
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So the undead will be ok to write about? :-) Perhaps better leaving that to Charlotte.
Well Done Gordon_J, pleased that you have hit the holy grail.
HH
CRC
Victor’s agent has obviously made a howler and is now blaming Celtic for his own lack of shrewdness. As Paul says, we don’t have to sell anyone at present. Let’s sit tight and see what happens regarding Vic.
Marti
hen1rik
14:21 on 26 June, 2013
tommysbhoy
12:23 on 26 June, 2013
Wouldn’t surprise me in this country anymore mate.
I obviously dont know if there is any truth in the story that we are going to take Ibrahima Toure on loan but the boy certainly has an eye for goals.I watched his compilation on you tube and he has good ball control and scores goals with both his feet and his head I dont know what quality the teams he was scoring against were? but he takes his chances very well and might well be worth a try. H.H.
celticrollercoaster,
Cheers. Sad to say there are no zombies in this one … might have a look at libel law on the undead for future use though.
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Moonbeams..
Just to Let you know the Aussies Refer to Your Kind as MAMIL’s..(Middle Aged Men In Lycra..)
Thought You would want to Know..:-)
Summa
I was listening to Talksport the other night. Graham Hunter was speaking in glowing terms regards Big Vic. Unlike that muppet Durham who usually slags off Celtic.
thomthethim
Lunch time the hunt for comestibles
pabloh_aka_neil lennon
14:15 on 26 June, 2013
I know 12m is a hell of a lotta cash for a guy we signed for 900k, but…
I can’t help but think Celtic could have got more. If Southampton or Cardiff are willing to pay 12m, how much would a big club be willing to pay? Say Liverpool? Rumour has it they are willing to sell Henderson to fund a bid.
Or do you think Celtic are trying to start a bidding war?
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Agreed, seems the first bid we got was southamptons 11 then 12m bid..if they are willing to pay that then surely another team might have come in with bit more.
15m is not asking for too much i dont think.
Lawell will get good price thou , its what he does best.
Neil Lennon Press Conference.
One bid for Vic accepted, one bid for Hooper rejected. Possibility of opening contract talks again.
Fraser Forster not for sale. Stokes offered contract but confident he will stay. Wants him to stay.