I hear from good sources at Celtic Park that despite Victor Wanyama declining to sign a contract extension since October last year, the player is an absolute joy to deal with. His professionalism is well rooted; there have been no “rolled out of the pub” emails about this guy, nor is there likely to be.
There are usually reasons why a player with the best part of three years left on his contract (as it was) declines a one year extension for dramatically better wages (Victor is on an entry level contract and was offered a top pay deal). We now know discussions were taking place for a proposed move to QPR last summer.
According to Victor’s agent, Celtic blocked the proposed move, costing the player £1m in wages. It could be argued that advising Victor to decline Celtic’s new contract offer also cost Victor a substantial sum.
Herein lies the problem. QPR were paying the kind of money that would make Louis XVI wince. Staggering sums were paid to players, well beyond their value. Despite this, those very same players are now readjusting to life as lower-division players.
The irony has escaped Vic’s agent, but the contract value proposed to the player during QPR’s pre-guillotine era made declining Celtic’s offer almost a year ago look like a good idea. The contract offered by saner-Southampton clearly pales by comparison, which will make the decision to sit on entry-level wages at Celtic for nine months look ridiculous. Of course people are getting irritated, there are questions to answer about the advice given.
My guess is that the agent needs to pull a big contract offer out of the bag. Victor is a special talent but Louis XVI-type offers don’t always come along in twos. If Victor goes, it will be to a club matching Celtic’s valuation and the money will come in handy. If he stays, Celtic expect to retain their top player for another two years. No one, and I mean no one, is distressed at this prospect, after all, Celtic sell when they choose to, not because they have to.
So the Daily Record have (for the second time, in case you’ve not been paying attention) dipped their toes into Charlotte waters. Items “leaked on to the internet, where they are openly available” have been used, without reference to source, and without concern for apparent legal consequence.
As far as I am aware, none of the owners of the material leaked have disputed their authenticity or declined permission for it to be used. Our media are a huge part of this story, they feature in galling terms in many of the leaked documents. The cry of legal probity was convenient, but has twice been shown to be nonsense by the Daily Record (who have been highly selective on who to target).
It is a huge story.
There are months of material waiting to be written about.
The Daily Record are doing what many said cannot be done, without consequence.
But, this one does not fit popular narrative, and is likely to cause the kind of schism Mme Guillotine did in 18th century France. Seek Truth, as someone once said.
Willie Wallace………… what can we say?
Willie came onto CQN last night before leaving for Australia today. This is a taste of what he said:
“I just wanted to come back onto CQN this evening to say my farewells as myself and Olive head back to Australia tomorrow. I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks to all the Celtic supporters I have met during the past month, at book signing events, in supporters clubs such as Greenock and at the CQN Golf Day.
“Also to everyone at the Lions Roar event last Friday where Bertie stole the show as usual! I came all the way from Australia and I couldn’t get a word in! The 1254125 charity tells you everything you need to know about Celtic supporters.
What is amazing about this Celtic family of ours is that when you live at the other side of the world you still know that this is a special club with wonderful supporters. Then you come back to Scotland and realise you actually under estimated these things because Celtic is even better than you remember and the fans are truly amazing. The best in the world.
“To everyone on CQN can I say a very special thank you. I hoped that the book would go well and we’d sell a few copies but it was never about money – it was about telling my story. I arrived at Winning Captains house and was met by a mountain of books to sign – all ordered by the CQNers. I had to go back another day to finish signing and the mountain was as big as before! I’ve been avoiding him ever since!
To Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan – when I heard his name I thought that would be some round of drinks! He’s been great, helping make Heart of a Lion what it is – a really good Celtic book – and turning up at the CQN events and book signings.
“Thank you the CQN’ers.
“Thanks to the Celtic family and I look forward to our next trip home to Paradise.
“Hail Hail and all the best to each of you and your families.
“Willie Wallace
“Keep the Faith!
“Hail Hail!”
Willie, it has been an utter joy. Thank you.
Heart of a Lion:
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pedrocaravanachio67
14:14 on 26 June, 2013
LLOOLL ….!!!!
any idea where I can buy heart of a lion in Canada.
amazon has it on kindle only.
googybhoy ♥ Celtic
Contract talks for Hooper or Victor and Hooper?
LB
timhorton
You can buy it through CQN.
LB
Here’s my prediction:
Vic bins his agent. Thanks Celtic for doing him a favour for not letting him go to QPR.
Signs a year extension to his contract on improved terms.
Clink\o/
Thanks…but you’re dealing with a complete dinosaur here.
If I click on a link the nominated site opens up, where CQN was.
How do I take a link from a poster & open it…but in a different tab?
Do I just copy and paste the link into a new tab?
If so, what’s the point in having a link that is “live”…
This all made sense when I wrote it…honest.
HH
Don’t let ole Brian May kno you’re culling comestibles.
Next thing you know he’ll be on the roof, bangin’ away at his home made guitar and lettin’ magpies nest in his hair.
Ange should have stuck with Dirty Den.
Vic’s agents do seem like thee worst.
If a player is being offered improved terms with an extension then (unless you are determined to run down the contract – would have thought far too long a contract for that) then why not take it. If an acceptable offer comes in and the player wants to leave then generally he’d be allowed to… it makes no sense to turn down increased salary.
Gordon J
It reminds me of the time I had my first works published.
‘Twas a fishy tale of a young boy going across the water on his first real holiday and how he was attacked by a winged creature as his ship was half way across the vast watery expanse.
To cut a long story short the young boy in question was a seven year old me sailing from Wemyss Bay to Rothesay.
While feeding the seagulls bread from the top deck of the cruise liner, one of the more gallus birds tried to snatch a piece from my hand, and, in the process, managed to nip my finger.
What a story I thought. (The punchline of the story was that the bird must have thought it was a fish finger. See what I did there?)
I’ll send it to the letters page of the “Sparky”.
Now, anyone else old enough to remember this publication should also recall that a published story earned you TEN BOB
That’s 50p in “new pence”
Not only that, if your writing was deemed the best out of all the letters sent that week you also received a “state of the art pocket transistor wireless radio”
After writing my effort in “Crayola Crayon” (I was only seven at the time) I blackmailed my older sister into writing it out in her bestest handwriting, (I threatened to tell Mither about her kissing Berty Henderson doon the back close if she didny dae it)and sending it to said “Sparky” to try and win, not only the ten bob, but also the tranny.
About six weeks later I was both delighted and disappointed to receive a ten bob “Postal Order”, (Think it cost about five bob tae cash it in cos a didny hiv a post office savings account, didny tell ye that in the “Sparky” when they said you could win ten bob) but nae tranny.
Turns out when I saw some of my sisters writing I noticed girly things like curly “Ys” and “Gs” and wee flower heads on top of the “i’s” instead of dots and wee pictures of ponies runnin about on the sand. So I think the “Editor” maybe cottoned on that said writing was not a young boys, but in fact a cheeky young boys bigger sisters handwriteng who had somehow managed to blackmail his bigger sister into carrying out this serious and heinous crime of deception. Anyway, I’d now like to take the congratulaions of my fellow posters for probably being the first to have his works published, I mean, I’m talkin nearly 50 years ago noo.
Niallo83
at 13.08
Hiya Pally?
Nice tae mak yer acquaintance.
Ah believe that it is not a done deal.. that Hoops wull leave ..at this time.
He may, use his heid.. and ..(if he diz , diz.. Ah wull buy him a Bunnet!)..
by signing that all important extension,that Pierre , keeps oan waving afore his eyes.
Wanyama , wull .. go.. this time.. Mayhap..
But his Movement, tae the Tall and Uncut, wull be predicated oan.. whether a Heavy Hitter,wull decide tae enter intae ..whit could turn oot tae be .. an UNWANTED,and .. vexing..
ESCALATING AUCTION…if.. Ither Members of the Heavy Brigade..also.. decide tae enter.
Like Ah hiv said, previously.. it behooves the Big Guys tae stay oot , just noo.. and start thur Metronomes… Marking Time.
The Big Guys ..at this time.. are Hingin’ Back, from entering.
It wull Dae Wanyama’s Reputation no herm tae Remain wi’ us for anither peck at next season’s Prestigious..European Competition.
If ,oan the Ither Haun.. Ma Prediction .. turns oot tae be a Buncha Bunk..
And.. Hoops and Wanyama.. baith head fur the Tall and Uncut… soon..
May Ah point oot.. that Ah wid be maist Reluctant tae Spend..
Wan Red Cent.. of the Bounteous Riches, that selling those Two Excellent Laddies wid
Gush forth..intae the Celtic Coffers.
No Way.
Fur
We Dinna need tae bring in .. any EXPENSIVE REPLACEMENTS..
Spending a Large Sum for ANY PLAYER.. is a Mug’s Game.
and fur Celtic..
It’s an Unneeded.. Gamble~
Fur.. We hiv Proven.. Conclusively..that we kin Bring in .. Very Talentet n Potentially Valuable Youngsters..fur.. Pennies in the Pound.
by simply.. Raiding and Pillagin’, Poor and unfashionable Teams in the Provinces.
Na.. If we hit the Jack-pot. from cashing in oan.. Messrs. Hoops and Wanyama..
If Ah hiv Ma Druthers, we wid Bank the Spoils.. and Throw away the Key.
The Best Place,fur Celtic pit it’s Money..in these Perilous Time fur Money..is
under the Parkheid Turf.. but
Failin’ that.. we Kin settle fur the Bank.
Kojo
Still.. Laugin’
Nice chattin’
Kojo
Still .. Laughin’
When I read Daily Rags article this morning I must say it filled me with hope that the omerta cade adopted by the MSM would finally fall apart and they might fall over each other expanding on Charlotte’s revelations, fingers crossed. Great great time to be a Tim, enjoy it lads,remember the years we had to suffer whilst those cheating Bassa’s were winning tainted Titles year after year. Our day has come.
St Stivs
How can I help ?
Good auld Millwall
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/26/millwall-said-no-quickquid
….also meant to say that the all singing and dancing “state of the art pocket wireless transistor radio” stated that “batteries are not included”, which meant that if you won it you would have to use the five bob that you got for your ten bob postal order to buy bloody batteries
31003,
Well, I didn’t know you were a published author.
And ten bob from back then would be a tidy old sum in today’s money!
livibhoy
14:47 on 26 June, 2013
googybhoy ♥ Celtic
Contract talks for Hooper or Victor and Hooper?
Hooper
‘Sparky was a British comic published weekly by DC Thomson, that ran from (issue dates) 23 January 1965 to 9 July 1977 when it merged with The Topper after 652 issues’
-Wiki doesn’t say who got to keep the history; but it sound slike the ole Sparky did not survive punk rock.
Kojo,
Giovanni Dos Santos of Real Mallorca
When’s the unveiling ???????????
WGS
These agents ruin a promising players career.
Hooper and Wanyama another season in thCL and they would have their picks of top clubs IMO.
One way to get big Vic to sign is get his bro at Parkhead on loan. Was on loan ta Parma last season and can’t seem him feature much at Inter this season so another loan on the cards.
Is anybody else having a problem or is it simply that I am 24hrs too late? I’ve been on the Celtic site trying to buy a couple of tickets for Stan’s game and it seems to be virtually sold out with only a handful of tickets in the South Stand available. Can that be correct? They only went on sale yesterday afternoon did they not?
Paul67 et al
So, Victor’s agent is using the QPR offer as a template against which to judge offers from both Cardiff and Southampton, and presumably others, well good luck with that. You never know though, maybe Harry Redknapp will come in for him.
Great to hear Willie Wallace had a great time on his visit to Scotland. Celtic make Scotland an altogether better place. Congratulations to all concerned.
Record readers getting a hint of the of the only people Murray could find to take over the moribund club he left behind in Glasgow. But it was Murray, not White who offered their supporters the poisoned chalice. And they put in the trophy room.
Gordon J. Congratulations on your publication deal, terrific achievement!
Tommysbhoy, aye.
whitecrook tim, indeed.
NatKnow, they reported a piece of audio showing Stockbridge in unflattering light.
Lawrenzo, good to meet you too, and good to know the signed Seville shirt has found a good home.
timhorton, we ship to Canada. See link below.
Is there no-one in a position to have a word with Vic to tell him he should maybe be having a second look at his agent?
itsabouttim
I think that is where the captain would usually come in and give a bit of advice to a young player.
It’s hard in the modern game tho. I suspect that Victor wants a move to a big club in England and his agent may have said look I will be the bad guy here. I will get your name out there and make it known you would like to leave meanwhile if you stay then at least your happy where you are.
The offers/interest have come so far from clubs who will probably fight relegation next year. I suspect Victor would like a CL club or at least a EL club. I reckon he will get his move. The English clubs are probably not even back training yet. If he is patient and keeps working away in training the big clubs will come for him. If not he is at a big club in Scotland and one of the biggest on Europe. The problem we have is no different from most clubs out with England. They can offer obscene amounts of money to players in wages!
LB
timhorton
You can buy Heart of a Lion direct from CQN – just under Paul’s blog and we will post to Canada for you.
Gordon – any help we can offer re your book, let us know ad we’d be delighted to assist.
WGS. Agents in the main do what the player asks them so if Big Victor tells his agent he fancies a move to the English Premiership where he can earn silly money the agent then casts his net out. The main way for the agent to earn is through a transfer of his/her client and if the club who are making an offer in this case Southampton are not fancied by the player there is a multitude of excuses the player and the agent can use to scupper the deal.In modern day football the player has most of the power if as you say Victor and Gary stay for another season that would be good but I think it is unlikely to happen.I think they will both leave and it is only a matter of time until the right offer comes along.I think the best we can do is get as much as possible for them and use part of the money to bring in further new faces.H.H.
WGS
Hiya..Palomine?
Great tae Greet Ye.
Giovanni dos Santos?
Wonderful name.. fur.. a Movie Star.
but…
Don’t know anything aboot him.. as a FitBaller..though..
He could be good..
Howevahhhhhh..
Ye must know that Ah .. only want Neil tae Go fur Wan Particular Guy
And
He is ..
Esmael Goncalvese…
This Kid his goat it Awe..And .. He has Played agin us.. and He has
Scored Agin us.. Ah like Him aloater.
If Neil Disnae go fur Him.. then .. Neil. wullnae go tae Valhalla!
Kojo
Still Laughin.
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4196
Likely already linked but here’s the story from the official Celtic site on the famous CQN Charity Golf Day.
HH
Kojo
Is that the same chap who was officially done for diving while playing against us?
WGS @ 15 21
McDonald Mariga ?
For what it’s worth -.
Italian rumor mongers have him returning to Inter The 7 days a week fitba pink claimed that Inter were interested in signing Victor Wanyama if they failed to sign Behrahmi. Nothing has happened re Behrahmi.
winning captains,
Much appreciated, thanks
Sir Paul
If Ye ur still wi’ us..
If We did get Big Bucks fur.. Wanyama and or Hoops..
Wid YOU
Rush oot and Buy A Coupla Replacements?
Ye know Ah widnae.
Curious tae Know if You and Ah are using the same Bathroom Mirror..
Kojo
Still..Laughin
Got to copy this tweet
@Andrew_SelousMP: Strongly support the loss of benefits unless claimants lean English.
“Lean English” is that bacon.
I blame Eton.
South Of Tunis
I think Celtic need to be patient with Victor.
The English clubs go crazy near the end of the window and make crazy purchases like £35m for a big haddie from Newcastle!
If we can hold our nerve we will get top dollar for Wanyama. I had written him and Gary Hooper off as leaving anyway. If they stay it’s a HUGE bonus!
LB
RalphWaldoEmerson
Could Be.. Ah Dunno, though.
He wiz oan Loan tae St.Mirren..last season..Subsequently,
and he has .. Gone Back tae his Parent Club.
He played.. oan the Left wing.. sorta. for The Saints.
He is a Hellava guy tae Get the Ba’ oaffy..
He is Strong as an Ox n is a Bustler and a Rummel ’em Upper, besides hivin’
good Ball Control..
Ah like Him aloater.
Kojo
Still..Laughin
Should Be
“RALPH WALDO ELLISON”
Sorry aboot that.
Kojo
Still..Laughin’
RWE
To open a new tab on a pc click on link using middle button/wheel on mouse.
If you are on android hold link for a couple of seconds (rather than tapping) and a pop up window will appear giving you the option of opening a new tab.
Im sure some of the good ghuys out there could help if you are on
Apple or other devices.
It really is much more convienent having the choice of multiple tabs
HH