I hear from good sources at Celtic Park that despite Victor Wanyama declining to sign a contract extension since October last year, the player is an absolute joy to deal with. His professionalism is well rooted; there have been no “rolled out of the pub” emails about this guy, nor is there likely to be.
There are usually reasons why a player with the best part of three years left on his contract (as it was) declines a one year extension for dramatically better wages (Victor is on an entry level contract and was offered a top pay deal). We now know discussions were taking place for a proposed move to QPR last summer.
According to Victor’s agent, Celtic blocked the proposed move, costing the player £1m in wages. It could be argued that advising Victor to decline Celtic’s new contract offer also cost Victor a substantial sum.
Herein lies the problem. QPR were paying the kind of money that would make Louis XVI wince. Staggering sums were paid to players, well beyond their value. Despite this, those very same players are now readjusting to life as lower-division players.
The irony has escaped Vic’s agent, but the contract value proposed to the player during QPR’s pre-guillotine era made declining Celtic’s offer almost a year ago look like a good idea. The contract offered by saner-Southampton clearly pales by comparison, which will make the decision to sit on entry-level wages at Celtic for nine months look ridiculous. Of course people are getting irritated, there are questions to answer about the advice given.
My guess is that the agent needs to pull a big contract offer out of the bag. Victor is a special talent but Louis XVI-type offers don’t always come along in twos. If Victor goes, it will be to a club matching Celtic’s valuation and the money will come in handy. If he stays, Celtic expect to retain their top player for another two years. No one, and I mean no one, is distressed at this prospect, after all, Celtic sell when they choose to, not because they have to.
So the Daily Record have (for the second time, in case you’ve not been paying attention) dipped their toes into Charlotte waters. Items “leaked on to the internet, where they are openly available” have been used, without reference to source, and without concern for apparent legal consequence.
As far as I am aware, none of the owners of the material leaked have disputed their authenticity or declined permission for it to be used. Our media are a huge part of this story, they feature in galling terms in many of the leaked documents. The cry of legal probity was convenient, but has twice been shown to be nonsense by the Daily Record (who have been highly selective on who to target).
It is a huge story.
There are months of material waiting to be written about.
The Daily Record are doing what many said cannot be done, without consequence.
But, this one does not fit popular narrative, and is likely to cause the kind of schism Mme Guillotine did in 18th century France. Seek Truth, as someone once said.
Willie Wallace………… what can we say?
Willie came onto CQN last night before leaving for Australia today. This is a taste of what he said:
“I just wanted to come back onto CQN this evening to say my farewells as myself and Olive head back to Australia tomorrow. I would like to offer my heartfelt thanks to all the Celtic supporters I have met during the past month, at book signing events, in supporters clubs such as Greenock and at the CQN Golf Day.
“Also to everyone at the Lions Roar event last Friday where Bertie stole the show as usual! I came all the way from Australia and I couldn’t get a word in! The 1254125 charity tells you everything you need to know about Celtic supporters.
What is amazing about this Celtic family of ours is that when you live at the other side of the world you still know that this is a special club with wonderful supporters. Then you come back to Scotland and realise you actually under estimated these things because Celtic is even better than you remember and the fans are truly amazing. The best in the world.
“To everyone on CQN can I say a very special thank you. I hoped that the book would go well and we’d sell a few copies but it was never about money – it was about telling my story. I arrived at Winning Captains house and was met by a mountain of books to sign – all ordered by the CQNers. I had to go back another day to finish signing and the mountain was as big as before! I’ve been avoiding him ever since!
To Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan – when I heard his name I thought that would be some round of drinks! He’s been great, helping make Heart of a Lion what it is – a really good Celtic book – and turning up at the CQN events and book signings.
“Thank you the CQN’ers.
“Thanks to the Celtic family and I look forward to our next trip home to Paradise.
“Hail Hail and all the best to each of you and your families.
“Willie Wallace
“Keep the Faith!
“Hail Hail!”
Willie, it has been an utter joy. Thank you.
Heart of a Lion:
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RALPH WALDO ELLISON
If you want to open a link while keeping CQN open then you should right click on the link (use the right button on the mouse as opposed to left) and this will give you a few options two of which will be:
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Either option will open up your link while keeping the CQN page you are on also open.
Cheers,
BJM.
No One will offer more than £12m for Victor if that is the fee we accepted from Southampton. Why would they, we have set the figure, it has been made public, so anyone who wants him need only offer our valuation. Its then up to them to meet his agents cut and Victor’s wage demands.
LiviBhoy
I don’t disagree with what you say but never-the-less I believe he has been ill advised by his agent. If he had signed the new contract which was put to him then he would be in the top tier of pay at Celtic and still, because of the way the game is these days, be in a position to get his agent to agitate for a move. With a new contract signed at Celtic, Celtic could have expected a bigger transfer fee which in turn would have meant a fatter wallet for the agent.
31003.whit happened to your sister and BERTIE HENDERSON.””bet he was called BERT.”
What’s all this talk about King Louis XVI – Is Victor going to Paris St. Germain . . .?
Mr K
Fairly certain he is the same guy. If he came to us, he would have an intensive “desist forthwith” session from NFL.
Ralph Waldo Ellison was a black American writer who was named after the more famous white American “transcendentalist” writer Ralph Waldo Emerson, but maybe it was that darned predictive text again.
Diverse-Yes-Divers-No CSC
If as NL says we have accepted a bid for Vic,£12 mil is far too cheap unless that is in his contract.
Speaking of the undead, has anyone been to see World War Z?
I’m taking the young skud to see it tonight and thought I’d have a wee swatch at the trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXuC_v0KWaU
The scene 1min 50 seconds in looks like Edminston Drive shortly after the huns got pumped oota the ramsden cup in September last year. How fitting that it was filmed in Glasgow where there was no shortage of extras from down govan way.
Received a letter today in acknowledgement of my Complaint against the ASAs Decision.
Sir (So and so..) will look into it and report his findings.
A bit of positive news in my opinion, he could have declined and dropped it.
Fingers crossed he does the job correctly.
HH
A Ceiler Gonof Rust
Went last night and enjoyed it, not a bad attempt at a mainstream Zombie flick and about as scary as your average Doctor Who episode.
How old is jnr?
Presume if Celtic are saying that £12m is acceptable for Wanyama then any subsequent bidding war would be in terms of personnel terms payable to the player.
If one club were to bid more than £12m but with personnel terms not as lucrative as the club that bid £12m then you would think Wanyama would opt for the better terms.
Then again it may depend on wether that club is in Europe next season .
Palacio67
16:17
Well done to you and the others who have refused to give up with the ASA.
The Angels in Dr Who are pretty scary.
And you wouldn’t want to go into the ole garden shed and find it infested with Cybermen.
Kayal33
Ah don’t see .. Having accepted a Twelve Million bid.. that Celtic are Married tae that Figure, regarding any FUTURE, Bids ,for Victor, frum Ither Bidders.
Na.. I am of the Opinion that…
VICTOR and his Agent…
Are NOT interested in.. Him going tae a Perennially Struggler. albeit.. a Member of the Elite.. E.P.L.
They Wull baith .. Keep Turning Doon ,bids frum any Team ,who Is NO a Fully Paid up Member of the E.P.L. Elite Consortium.
If one of the Big Boys of the E.P.L. such as Arsenal.. f’rinstance. enters into the Bidding fur .. oor Victor.. which wull Break the dam… and
Then .. Ah am sure it won’t be long until.. Anither and Anither of the E.P.L.
Elite.. wull follow suit.. and then. We may have,the privilege of Witnessing a Most Delightful and Profitable.. Dug Fight .. amongst those Elite Bidders, for Victor’s
Services…
“Monkey see . Monkey Do”. is a Great Aphorism, and regarding the Scenario ,which Ah hiv jist Painted,is a Maist Appropriate Wan.
and..
That is the Scenario tha Ah am Coontin’ oan.( And… Celtic, Ah am sure, is Thinking the Same.)
Kojo
Still.. Laughin’
Kayal33
15:55 on 26 June, 2013
‘No One will offer more than £12m for Victor if that is the fee we accepted from Southampton. Why would they,’
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If they thought they were bidding against another club(s) they might.
WANYAMA?
How about PL accepted the first bid over CFC’s minimum valuation…knowing the agents would reject it?
Having established definitively that the player is now for sale…….the bidding will begin and the price will go up. All that has happen is that a bench mark price has been set. The only way is up.
Supply and demand economics will now take centre stage and the market will pay whatever it will pay.
There is also absolutely no guarantee that the player is going to the EPL either and if he wants to see the CL ever again he needs to be very careful indeed. Kenya in the WC finals? The CL is his only real passport to fame and fortune.
When you go Victor…….and you are definitely going…….make your choice wisely.
In the end its just business. You buy a car for 1k and sell it for 12k…….whats not to like???
cavansam, junior is 17 and doesn’t scare easily.
I mean, yon daftie pedrocarvansalesman67 is his uncle so he’s had a while to get used to seeing odd looking people:-)
Hail Hail
Palacio67
Have been in regular communication with Sir…
I posted last week that despite them claiming to have the backing of “the panel of the London Stock Exchange” this turned out to be incorrect.
They had submitted this in evidence to ASA and it was accepted in good faith.
Given that it took CQN to clarify the actual situation with the London Stock Exchange – who forced them to remove the claim from their website – it would seem clear that the ASA will be a little more wary of accepting their fibs going forward.
We have submitted detailed material to the ASA for their review.
Engerland 0 Chile 1 U 20 Championship,Peter Taylor manager,last week Stuart Pearce getting horsed with U21s,yesterday’s men who have had FA jobs for years,sounds familiar.
Right Noo..In Ma opinion.
The Big Boys in the E.P.L. and Europe,as well.. Ah suppose..
are .
Cycling, Very Cagily.. like they wur competing in the Velodrome.
Watching.. and Waiting.. afore..the Mak a Breenge ,fur glory!
If An when wan of the Buy Guys, mak thur move. fur Victor..
then..
In Ma Opinion..
The Race fur his Signature, will heat up.. Considerably..and
The Final Winning Figure.. may cause.. Pierre, tae Hiv .. a Real Case of the Vapors!
Howevahhhh..
Like Ah hiv said..
The Racers ur Hingin’ back .. jist noo.
Who knows when the wull mak thur Move..
Maybe.. Next season.. ??
Kojo
Still..Laughin’
Palacio 67/WC- keep fighting the good fight.HH
I kinda miss the rumours at this time of year. It’s all too open these days!!!
Everyone is at ease with who we sell, there is no major clamour to ‘spend big’ to ensure CL football, no worrying about who others are signing…….
It’s all good. Too good.
What’s teh craic with the Cliftonville game?
I asked a little earlier but no-one, that I have noticed, has responded. Is Stan’s game on 08 Sept a virtual sell out (i.e. only a handful of seats in the South stand left) or is the web-site wrong?
Afternoon bhoys from a very hot hun free mountain valley.
Many thanks to Eurochamps67 and Paddybhoy1888 for my CQN polo tops, they will be worn with much pride.
I agree with a couple of other posters, if Vic is wanted by more than one club, there will be an auction, if say Lpool want him, they will out bid Soton, it’s really no rocket science.
Maybes just as well PL is in charge of the negs, we would lose hand over fist if some of the posters on here were in charge !!!!
HH
It appears that the BBC can ,(when it suits them) broadcast taped phone calls that were not obtained ,lets say totally legit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23049191
Staff working in a well known Scottish fast food bakery outlet have reported a man bearing a striking resemblance to Allez LeCoist, to the police.
Apparently they say he kicked the door off of its hinges, when he was told they’d sold out of his favourite culinary predilection.
NaeSteakBakes CSC
Bada Bing- and a lot of the players are at very expensive club academies.
They couldn’t beat Iraq in the opening game, and Iraq is a country that ‘s been completely cluster f##ked.
corkcelt
15:08 on
26 June, 2013
I’m looking for a pair of tickets for the Munster Hurling final. Can you help?
itsabouttim
16:48 on 26 June, 2013
I asked a little earlier but no-one, that I have noticed, has responded. Is Stan’s game on 08 Sept a virtual sell out (i.e. only a handful of seats in the South stand left) or is the web-site wrong?
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I phoned the ticket office yesterday and got 4 tickets for the South Stand. According to the guy I spoke too tickets for the rest of the stadium had not been released yet
Catman
Ah, that explains a lot. I couldn’t understand how the whole stadium was showing as ‘sold’. I guess they’re just going to open up other parts of the ground depending on how ticket sales are going.
Thanks for your help.
HH
Bada Bing
That you bored with Majorca now?
Gordon_J,
Congrats on the Book being published!
Great work indeed.
My brother-in-law recently had his book published (“Life Is Local” available on Amazon in both paperback and kindle. Set in Motherwell/Wishaw, so all you ML’ers have a wee gander – you owe me for that plug Des!) and i know how difficult that can be.
Let me know where and when I can buy your book Gordon and I shall do so toute-suite!
Well done again mate.
HAIL! HAIL!
Token
Thanks to malorbhoy for the visit on his way to hampden.
wtf is going on with Belfast game ? Looking to book flights ,hotel and arrange match tickets !!
HH
Murray wins first 2 sets, against plucky Chinese bloke.
J.Wilfred Tsonga at Wimbledon no longa.
I’m speaking to more and more English punters in Benidorm who are well clued up on the great hun scandal.
Most had only found out how bad it was through word of mouth or their club fan sites.
The Smsm cover up worked to an extent as did that of Sky hun spin Doctor White (sic).
Anyway the cats out the bag now dan sarf landan after I gave 3 Palace fans the full story, gory details and all, over a few San Miguels.
A Man U fan overheard me and chipped in with…”is there anything good to say about that bloody lot?”
hh
Houl yer wheest, I wouldn’t expect that to be any problem. To be honest GAA crowds are back a lot, I doubt if it will be a full house. I’d expect tickets to be selling from caravans outside the ground on the day of the match. However if you are traveling a good distance and want to be certain of a ticket, I should be able to organise 2 without too much trouble.
I think that any bidding war with Vic will not involve Celtic.
Celtic have named their price, it is up to some club to meet Modia’s demands…..or not.