The “we need a big name” Brigade always frustrate me when we are searching for a new manager. There are so many qualities a manager needs, being well-known is not one of them, as Ange Postecoglou is dutifully illustrating.
A “name” makes life easier for the appointees. Fans are always keen to see cash spent, and often the famous are the more expensive. Appointing someone with name recognition takes the heat off for a while. Contrast this to the reaction from some places to Ronny Deila getting the Celtic job in 2014, a young manager who over-achieved at a club most of us did not know how to spell (Stremsgodset).
Young Celtic fans will not be aware how big a name Liam Brady was when he took the Celtic job in 1991. One of the most cultured midfielders in Europe, Brady starred for Arsenal and Juventus, a legend on the field, a quiet nonentity in the dugout.
If anything, John Barnes was an even bigger playing legend for Liverpool and England when he drove up Kerrydale St in 1999. It transpired that goal in the Maracana was not proof positive of managerial abilities. Roy Keane is also a big name, just ponder that for a minute.
Being tactically gifted, an effective communicator of ideas and instructions, as well as a working knowledge of a value market to strengthen your squad. These are all high on my list. You want a name to please the fans? Knock yourself out.
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VALE BHOY correct.
Hail Hail
Reminded me of a phrase from a Proclaimers song Paul,
” Do you want to be the best or be well known ”
The song title is very apt for two Hibees, “Harness Pain”
HOT SMOKED @ 1:43
Meant to ask if we had interviewed GVB alongside Howe and Ange, what would have been our thoughts?”
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Would you agree that Howe was an ambitious move & Celtic were right to stick with it and try everything to get it ‘over the line’? EH has said that it failed solely because of circumstances surrounding his backroom staff, which I believe were heavily influenced by circumstances in the West of Scotland at that time – in Thorntonhall & George Square.
At this moment in time the perception is that Ange is an improvement on Neil – however the reality is that we have had a poorer start this season than last. For me the jury is still out – maybe January will bring a pointer to a verdict.
VALE BHOY and THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E
Thank you, gentlemen!
JHB on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 2:18 PM
It’s true we started this season worse than last but there’s context you’re missing. We went into last season on the back of winning the title by 13 points; we started this season on the back of losing one by 25 points.
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Long time not hear.
Not sure GVB is hankering after a big name, looks a good choice under the circumstances. Koeman should be way out of their budget and they are way below the level where he operates (and not very well). Throwback to the Murray years if that happened.
Highland Paddys brilliant works, as he says cherish them.
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DENIABHOY on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 2:59 PM
Agreed. I’ve no idea how GVB will pan out and obviously I hope he’s an utter failure. However, after Slippy slipped out of the door, they went straight to their short-list and look to be appointing someone who will not only bring the feel-good factor back, also has a decent body of work to draw on from his time at Feyenoord.
Contrast with our new year “review”, our sleepwalking to the end of last season and the Howe debacle, we don’t have many reasons to laugh at Sevco until/unless we wrestle the title back from them.
What about recruiting a manager who was sacked from his 2 previous jobs. That’s not a great cv.
Any word on a new head of recruitment.
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INIQUITOUSIV on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 1:50 PM
O.K. I admit it – as I age, the old memory has lapses. I used to be able to rhyme off all players in team photos back to the fifties, even the reserves.
*that’s some reserve side, 4 Big Cup winners and a former outlander assistant manager.
`Jermain Defoe will help lead Rangers’ men’s first team while the club pursues a successor for manager Steven Gerrard.`
Any suggestions as to why the BBC felt the need to say that it was the ` men`s` team???
Wim stops the 10 and promptly leaves. He had been told his budget for the next season was £2m to £3m. Rangers bring in a new manager who wins 2 in a row and it looks like they could be going for another 9 in a row. The Celtic board appoint Martin at great expense to turn things around. He wins the treble in his first season and turnover soars. He wins the league and league cup in his second season and more great nights in Europe follow. The third season is the season of glorious failure. Rangers win the treble and we lose the eufa cup final after extra time, after going down to ten men. A new chief executive is appointed who clearly doesn’t want Martin at the club. We have 50k season ticket holders, a waiting list and a waiting list to get on the waiting list so who needs Martin anymore? In his last two seasons in charge Martin spends £400k and his net spend is -£900k. The chief executive does his job and Martin leaves. Welcome to the slow lane.
Fast forward to 2016. We are playing in a half empty stadium and the board bring in Brendan at great expense to turn things around. He wins the treble in his first season and turnover soars. He goes one better than Martin and wins the treble in his second season. We are dominating Scottish football and we have 50k season ticket holders so who needs Brendan anymore? The chief executive appoints himself as head of football. He signs players Brendan doesn’t want and refuses to sign players he does want. Unsurprisingly, Brendan takes himself off to pastures new. He has had enough. Welcome to the slow lane, part two.
Many Celtic supporters turn on Brendan. Snake eyes and rat face.
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Think you’ll find that Angelos Postecoglou is a reasonably big name, weighing in at a hefty 18 letters.
Of course he’s no match for Giovanni Van Bronckhorst who will dominate this league with his 22 letters.
We need to hire Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink pronto if we want to pip the huns to this title…
Jimmy Bell ( 9 letters )
Graeme Murty ( 9 letters )
Kris Boyd ( 8 Letters )
Alex Rae ( 7 letters )
WESTCRAIGS on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 3:53 PM
Quie interesting.
It is possible that you have been a little selective in how you have presented your case but interesting nevertheless.
I will leave it to SFTB to show any failings in your overall point :-)).
Cheerio for now.
Bobby Murdoch is the player between Danny and Big George.
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Doing ok down in ole Indonesia. Depends on Covid restrictions next year before I venture back to uk. 2 weeks is plenty but not going to spend a week in quarantine.
Ange has the team playing good football so its nearly enjoyable getting up at 02:30 for midweek games unlike last season.
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GEEBEE1978 @ 2:42
It’s true we started this season worse than last but there’s context you’re missing. We went into last season on the back of winning the title by 13 points; we started this season on the back of losing one by 25 points.
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Yes of course you’re right – we did start last season as winners with the squad kept intact and strengthened measurably – the ensuing collapse was unforeseen, in fact many welcomed the signing of Shane Duffy as the last piece of the 10iar jigsaw.
Off a 25 point trouncing and in light of outgoings and incomings, I concede your point of context.
However the Ibrox club are underperforming – if they were at last year’s level, we would probably be double-digits behind in the table at this moment. So more of a leveling down, than up.
It’s in that context that I believe the jury is still out on Ange. I sincerely hope there will be sufficient evidence come January to change my mind.
One thing that I am sure of is that Ange will not get the same latitude as Gerrard, i.e. three years of nothing with a title at the end – failure this year may not get Ange sacked, but his “jaiket will be oan a shoogley peg”
I see on Twitter a private jet arrived at Glasgow airport an hour ago and was met by Ibrox delegates. Looks like the Lear Jet days are back.
Longest serving manager Guy Roux ( 36 years, 5 months and 29 days )
Gers set to appoint ‘big name’ ( out of work ) manager.
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HOT SMOKED @ 3:42
`Jermain Defoe will help lead Rangers’ men’s first team while the club pursues a successor for manager Steven Gerrard.`
Any suggestions as to why the BBC felt the need to say that it was the ` men`s` team???
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I’m sure the BBC have had a change of policy on womens football.
There will be many profound changes to the administration & reporting of womens sport in general and football in particular within clubs and the media in the coming years.
Post #me too, litigation is rife in alleged discrimination & abuse in all areas where men & women mix, whether socially, or, professionally.
In the US and many European countries, national football associations have now implemented equal rates of pay for mens’ & womens’ international teams. The next step surely will be individual clubs will be obliged to do likewise. I believe there is a move to a class-suit being muted in the US at this moment in time to have the national association’s policy ‘trickle down’ to individual clubs. In time a club’s revenue may have to be divided equally between the “mens” and “womens” squads.
The effect on football will be enormous and will make ‘Bosman’ seem like a drop in the ocean.
When the ESL finally surfaces, as it surely must – will any of the participants be running a full ‘in-house’ womens team?
As for the BBC – I just think they are getting in early with the correct vernacular.
JHB @ 1:55 PM,
For talking sake – let’s say Brendan was “spooked” by a combination of what the Celtic board would allow him to spend. All I would say to that is I’m sure he must have known the financiial parameters when he signed the new four-year in 2017 – it wouldn’t bother him going up against the likes of a Murty, Warburton, or, Pedro, but Gerrard, a rookie who he was bossing as a player a couple of years prior- no, too risky!!!
Firstly, why would you make up lies for talking sake, what sort of debate can that advance?
You seem to get upset when people question your credentials but have no issue making up lies about folk, that just doesn’t sit right.
When you stated the nonsense that BR was running scared of SG a few days ago, you put forward a couple “reasons”, I showed one was an inaccuracy and the other was a lie backed by another inaccuracy.
You of course got spooked by me and didn’t reply.
That’s fine, but why repeat the slander now!?
Secondly the financial parameters changed from the signing of that new contract on June 2018.
It was rumoured the reason for that was because BR had been seriously considering an offer from China.
Now I didn’t buy the China story when it (re) emerged at the end of February 2019, and it has been discredited straight from DD’s mouth, but one aspect was certainly accurate. Celtic PLC pulled the plug on BR’s recruitment following Odsonne’s signing and he wasn’t backed on a single player thereafter.
In fact every player BR wanted from then on “fell through” and we only signed loanees and Bosman’s.
We did buy a few players but these were not BR’s choices, they were PL moneyball prospects.
So you are once again totally inaccurate, please stop slandering folk and adding insult to injury by backing it up with falsehoods.
Hail Hail
For any ambitious manager leaving Scotland,it must be as a winner.Coming second in the league is failure.
Brendan and Slippy would be fully aware of that fact and would subsequently play the odds game.
May the odds be forever in your favour.
HH.
CHAIRBHOY @ 5:01
I make up no lies, I give an opinion. I make no assertions, I draw inference based on information in the public domain. I slander no one, and lie about no one.
You do present your opinions as fact. You do call me a liar. You do accuse me of slander.
This is a blog for those with opinions, not for abuse, or, name-calling. If you disagree with me, that’s fine – but please keep it civil.
GREENPINATA on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 5:10 PM
For any ambitious manager leaving Scotland,it must be as a winner.Coming second in the league is failure.
Brendan and Slippy would be fully aware of that fact and would subsequently play the odds game.
May the odds be forever in your favour.
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Indeed – probably means next Ibrox boss will be from overseas – possibly someone with a Paul Le Guen-type profile, or, a recently retired famous player looking for a start in management….like SG.
“Giovanni Van Bronckhurst’s Rangers” will be the longest supporters scarf in the world?
JHB @ 5:13 PM,
I did not call you a liar.
As it happens I don’t think you are. Spin Doctor of sorts certainly but that doesn’t make you a liar.
There is a big difference on having an opinion and promoting falsehoods.
There is a difference between opinions and facts.
Scotland beat Denmark last evening, that’s a fact, Callum McGregor was MOTM is an opinion. Turnbull was MOTM is a falsehood.
See the difference?
Now, then are you going to withdraw your slander or back it up?
Hail Hail
Where do you get the QR code ,for the NHS App proof of vaccination?
BB,
The QR code appears on the NHS Scotland app when you log in.
!!BADA BING!! on 16TH NOVEMBER 2021 6:37 PM
Where do you get the QR code ,for the NHS App proof of vaccination?
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On your phone go to google play store,search apps for ‘NHS Scotland covid status’ will ask for your
details .