News that a new company, “Glasgow Rangers Limited”, has been registered today with an address matching a waste management company in Buckinghamshire, has delicious irony but in itself means little. After Rangers owner, Craig Whyte, laid out all sorts of medium-term scenarios for the club in media interviews last week a land-rush for fresh rangers intellectual property, including a company name, should be expected.
If those with secured property rights over Ibrox are busy forming a new company, they are unlikely to be the only ones.
Still, waste management. It’s perfectly scripted.
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starry plough says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:18
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No intention on my part to put the boot into ‘our’ club. Just saying what i feel will happen.
The only people who do Celtic FC ‘Real’ damage, are the charlatans who are pre-occuppied by zero debt!
And, do you know what makes it worse….the fact that, 50k Celtic fans buy SB’s etc to preserve the boards, “Slow car-crash of Celtic FC!”
The solution is dramatic but, simple!
No more fans money into Celtic FC/PLC/Balance-Sheet and, the charlatans will be gone, paving the way for a new era! IMO of course!
The alternative is more of the same……..
Nuclear Bovril and a Half Munched Pie says:
26 October, 2011 at 08:35
I know mate, it’s tantalisingly close now though. GIRUT.
For future generations, the wikipedia page for Schadenfreude will have a picture of me and a bottle of something or other.
The bottom line projection on the cash flow (if accurate) is frightening (for them)
hahahahahahahahahahah
Philvisreturns…what about putting their youth team up chimneys? :) thatll teach em!
Giggs
I’d fall asleep and miss the game tonight..
you going tonight? HT had a spare last night.
BT
Are you ill ?
No contact for a wee while.
God Bless You and your Wonderful Celtic Family.
Hail! Hail!
I’m fine Kevin, just a bad back.I will be up and about in a day or so..
KTF
Kevin says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:30
Kevin ask yourself this, which position of the two clubs would you rather have?
Celtic’s ten points off the pace and not playing very well but with the possibility to come back.
or
Hunnies ten points to the good with everybody and their dug queuing up to pick over the bones of what’s left of your club after years of mismanagement and cheating.
I’m very unhappy how we have started the season, very but I’ll take it any day over where thems are now.
Hx2
johann murdoch – Philvisreturns…what about putting their youth team up chimneys? :) thatll teach em!
An excellent idea, my friend.
Quite apart from putting them to productive use, the health benefits are obvious: you never see a fat chimney sweep.
Well, you never see them again. (thumbsup)
BT
YNWA
Good Morning to the Celtic Family from a sunny Central Scotland.Well at last it looks like Lennie has woken up to the fact that Broonie is working his ticket.I think tonights gamewill be a cracker and a hard match for us in our current form whoever wins will certaily have a great chance of lifting the trophy. H.H.
johann murdoch 26 October, 2011 at 09:30:
I posted a link last night that proved that Celtic (Neil Lennon and Johann Mjalby) were interested in Mo Bangura. They contacted Henke for his opinion and Henke’s opinion was that Mo Bangura is a player.
Another blow to Rangers is the reduction in the Winter Fuel Payment David Weir will receive this year.
Will they make it through the winter?
Here’s hoping kind-hearted neighbours in the Ibrox area keep an eye out for newspapers and milk bottles piling up at the front door on Edmiston Drive.
This is Scottish football’s equivalent of Aesop’s fable about the ant and the grasshopper.
Maybe if the huns are revived through another company they should call themselves Grasshopper Club Glasgow. (thumbsup)
greenjedi says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:22
You know as well as anybody else on here, that their financial travails are not reflected in anyway by the team on the park. If anything they are compounded by it. As Auldheid, myself and many, many others keep reminding those such as yourself that recite the “losing to a skint team” mantra, if they had played by the same rules as everybody else a) they wouldn’t be on the verge of the abyss (as they are regardless of the tax case) and b) they wouldn’t be winning half as many trophies as they have.
They wouldn’t be able to compete with us either, as we are in the region of £10M/season better off than them. If they play by the rules.
Expect the pendulum to swing back to us very soon.
Absolutely beautiful morning here in North Ayrshire.
Come on the Bhoys tonight!
An interesting article on CU floating the possibility of suing the SFA for loss of revenue.
Pity we couldn’t sue some referees I can think of, whose decisions cost us league titles.
This morning I got up about 6:30am, switched on my laptop and looked at the League Cup quarter-final latest.
Ayr United knocked out St Mirren.
Kilmarnock overcame East Fife.
Meanwhile, Dundee United and Falkirk were embroiled in extra-time.
As I looked forward to the Hibernian v Celtic tie, it suddendly dawned on me . . .
. . . this is what it will be like without the Huns.
Oh what joy.
With the Population now approaching 7 billion, my Plan to build a on our historic foundations and support would be to open up Celtic Shops in maternity wards all over the world, and change our shirt sponsors to Pampers and the Stadium name to ‘Mothercare Crèche bowl’.
Thinking.outside.the.box.CSC
Hail Hail
Estadio
Am I correct in thinking that any legal action against the governing body excludes us from European competition?
starry plough says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:39
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I’ll stress that, imo…’The Genie’ was, allowed out the bottle the other night, last thursday i think on Clyde phone-in by, Spiers that…”the government will not allow Rankers to go out of business!” mmmmm
In my life time i have seen the huns,, riot all over europe and get a couple of, slaps on the wrist from UEFA for singing! I have been, conditioned to accept that the huns will do what they want, when they want and, no one will EVER do anything about them! EVER!
Anyone who thinks that the huns will die is off the planet! IMO!
What people forget is that…Scotland IS the huns and, the huns ARE Scotland!
Hail! Hail!
Unproductive workers should lose their right to claim unfair dismissal, a leaked government report says.
The report – commissioned by the prime minister – argues this would mean more capable people would replace those sacked, boosting economic growth.
The Daily Telegraph quotes the report as saying that under current rules workers are allowed to “coast along” with some proving impossible to sack.
Downing Street says changes to unfair dismissal rules are “unlikely”.
Currently, workers who feel they were unfairly dismissed can make a claim after 12 months in a job.
The report – which has not been made public – was written by Adrian Beecroft, a venture capitalist and Conservative Party donor.
The coalition government has previously stated it is committed to reforming employment laws. Chancellor George Osborne recently announced new measures aimed at restricting the number of unfair dismissal claims.
He announced that, from April 2011, an applicant must have been in their job for at least two years before being able to make a claim for unfair dismissal.
‘Coasting’ staff
However, Mr Beecroft’s report goes further – calling for an end to unfair dismissal, a regulation that the report’s author thinks is particularly abused by some in the public sector.
A draft seen by the Daily Telegraph warns that incapable workers are being left to “coast along”. Firms also fear expanding because new staff may prove “unknown quantities” who are impossible to sack.
The newspaper says a final draft of the document, dated 12 October 2011, argues the first major issue for British enterprise is “the terrible impact of the current unfair dismissal rules on the efficiency and hence competitiveness of our businesses, and on the effectiveness and cost of our public services.”
It reports the document as saying: “The rules both make it difficult to prove that someone deserves to be dismissed, and demand a process for doing so which is so lengthy and complex that it is hard to implement.
“This makes it too easy for employees to claim they have been unfairly treated and to gain significant compensation.”
‘Profoundly unjust’
Mr Cameron and others in the cabinet are considering the recommendations.
But Downing Street sources told BBC political correspondent Robin Brant no decisions had been made, and added it is “unlikely we would go further on unfair dismissal”.
Our correspondent said an adviser to one senior Liberal Democrat cabinet minister told him they believe such a move could undermine consumer confidence by creating large scale job insecurity. That claim has been countered by Downing Street.
Unions have attacked the report, warning that the move would “horrify” workers.
Sarah Veale, head of the equality and employment rights department at the TUC, described the proposals as “profoundly unjust” and said Mr Cameron should “throw the report straight in the bin”.
“We think it’s offensive to huge numbers of hard-working people and actually I would also think it was offensive to the majority of employers who treat their staff fairly,” Ms Veale told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.
She went on: “I really do wish that the government would stop going on about how if you reduce employment protection laws somehow that will make the economy boom again and create growth – it’s absolute rubbish.”
There were less than a million unfair dismissal claims last year which was “absolutely nothing” out of a large workforce, said Ms Veale.
TUC general secretary Brendan Barber said: “The clue is in the name. Employers already have plenty of powers to make fair dismissals.
“Giving them the right to act unfairly may go down well on the back benches, but will horrify employees.”
Paul Kenny, general secretary of the GMB union, said the report showed the true face of the “nasty” Tory Party.
John Philpott, chief economist at the Chartered Institute for Personnel and Development, said the changes would be counterproductive and would not address the real problems.
“If you look at the evidence on unfair dismissal, I mean there isn’t actually anything to suggest that watering down those rights would create any more jobs and indeed the job insecurity it would create would actually be bad for the economy and businesses.
“I think if you look at our productivity problem, it’s down to poor investment, poor training and poor management.”
In 2010-11 the cost to the taxpayer of running employment tribunals and the Employment Appeal Tribunal in England, Wales and Scotland was more than £84m, according to the Ministry of Justice.
The Treasury said that more than 80% of applications made to an employment tribunal did not result in a full hearing.
Almost 40% of applicants withdrew their cases, but employers still had to pay legal fees in preparing a defence, it said.
Mountain_Bhoy is Neil Lennon @ 09:26
>> If it transpires either RFC or SFA (or both) have covered up the tax bill
>> in their UEFA license application then the city of london police should
>> get involved as this would equate to serious fraud which has cost
>> Celtic PLC a fortune (PLC being the key here)
I think there has been a lot of activity in the last few years that could be classed as serious fraud against CFC, but in this particular case what do you want to achieve? Stewart Regan saying ‘sorry’? Wiggy being tarred, feathered and run out of town?
I’d like to see the SFA stating that they have investigated the matter and they will be refused a licence next year on the basis of fraud this year. I’d also like this to be a pointless punishment on the basis of the completion of the FTT and their subsequent liquidation in the interim, but it would be a bold statement nonetheless.
Just thinking… If this goes to plan and the fold I’m gonna do the “Broonie” all day !
I might be sectioned by the weekend but hey if wee all go daft I’ll be in good company, see you ghuys at the weekend ;)
Tom McLaughlin says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:49
Just like the end of apartheid.
Celebrate.
The Battered Bunnet – Unproductive workers should lose their right to claim unfair dismissal, a leaked government report says.
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and millions of browsers on Facebook and CQN were suddenly closed. (thumbsup)
I-phone and correct grammar don’t go, it official!
Estadio, good idea except that Mothercare may shortly be re-locating to an office in High Wycombe.
Times are tough in teeny town.
Kitalba
Far too early at this stage to go about suggesting fraud or anything like it on the part of the SFA.
No this is the time for piece by piece enquiry to that organisation– ask them what has been disclosed, when it was disclosed, were they aware of this fact or that or were any material matters witheld from them?
Depending on replies given then further questions can be asked about what they did in response or not as the case may be.
I suspect– and it is only a suspicion— that the financial rules have not been applied as stringently as they should be. That the SFA have not enforced their own protocols,guidlines and practices as outlined in their own manuals or regulations. Alternatively, it may well be that they have not been given the full financial information that would have alerted someone within the SFA to make further enquiry. It is for them to explain– either they have not done their job properly and are not fit for purpose or Rangers PLC and its Directors have played fast and loose with SFA compliance– which?
What is clear, is that going back a number of years, Rangers under the old board have entered into a series of transactions which the new Board have described as financial irregularity in the course of their case with Bain.
If that is so– and bear in mind the new board do not fill me full of confidence— then how come the Licensing Authority did not pick up on that financial irregularity going back years– especially when the big tax case has been known about for a couple of years at least?
Also other clubs, such as Portsmouth, simply refused to pay players under EBT schemes when they realised that the Revenue were gunning for them because of such schemes. The result was that the player or players walked out of the club and sued.
Rangers did not follow that course. Instead of stopping such payments immediately, they “wound down” this payment scheme thus ensuring they retained players they could not otherwise afford under normal payments schemes. In other words the former board, realising that they were likely to be breaking the law by making such payments and not paying the proper tax– continued to break the law- albeit less frequently and to a lesser extent– in order to retain players, get results and retain the income from European Football– which it is now clear that they needed to survive.
How do the rest of the teams in the league feel about that?
Also, stop and think about players and agents here.
Agents have to be licensed and work to a code of conduct. They have to be professional. What about the Rangers players agents who advised their clients to go down the EBT route? Did they check out the legalities of any such scheme? I can hardly believe that they didn’t because what would football players know about the law of trusts, share options in Isle of man companies and so on?
I would guess nothing?
But the agents would be obliged to check this out. But who checks on the agents and Licences them? Eh– would that be the SFA?
So we have agents who enter into one type of contract for every other team in the league but have EBT contracts for Rangers players and Rangers players only? Surely someone must find that odd and worthy of investigation at some point?
Lastly the players who were the ultimate beneficiaries of these schemes. Should they not be named at least? Who got such contracts? How and what were they paid?
One former Rangers player who was there at the time said that players simply played and did not concern themselves with all that stuff. Oh really? I would bet that they would notice a lodgement in their bank account of £1m or even £500 k or £200k as part of any deal on which absolutely no tax was paid.
But players just play- Right? yes and MP’s were used to just claiming expenses at one time too– until someone had a look and went “Hang on a minute!”.
There are many many questions still to be asked and answered.
The Smallest CSC says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:52
I would like to see the person/s hammered and charged with serious fraud and jailed. I would also like to use it as leverage for our club to leave this corrupt cess pit of a football league
Kevin says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:51
What people forget is that…Scotland IS the huns and, the huns ARE Scotland
Sadly,I think you`ve got it in one.
Good Morning CQN
There’s gonna be a show and the Glasgow Celtic will be there.
Beyonce
Myself and Mr Glasgow are off to Belfast at the weekend – anyone got any suggestions for friendly hostelries/intersting things to see?
HH
macjay1 for Neil Lennon – Sadly,I think you`ve got it in one.
No he bloody well doesn’t.
Firstly, “Kevin” is a hun at the wind up. His slaverings are of no consequence. His club soon won’t exist and he’ll have to concentrate his time on goat-fancying, claiming benefits, rioting, or whatever else it is these people do.
Secondly,
“The difference is that, while the Irish all have an allegiance to Parkhead, there are millions of Scots who not only don’t support Rangers, but actively dislike them.
– Hugh Adam, director of Rangers Football Club for 15 years. (thumbsup)
Stuck in Manchester.
Who is injured? Do we have any CB’s left?
Can we recall loan players if need be?
Mon the Hoops
LB
weeminger
the tax issue is from years ago. Our Board decided on a stratagy to just try and stay a teensy wee bit ahead of them, to buy (sorry sign) players who cost peanuts or preferably nothing at all. To refuse to back the manager with the players they wanted. How many of our Summer signings, where placed 1, 2, 3 oor mibbie even 4th on Lennys wanted list for each position?
We could have killed them off a few years ago but threw them a lifeline.
GROSS MISMANAGEMENT
Stop making excuses for them
The Battered Bunnet says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:51
I better get my A in G.
Livibhoy-
1/Everybody
2/No
3/Zheng Zhi is about to make a sensational comeback [pending confirmation of eligibility]
macjay1 for Neil Lennon says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:59
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It really worries me the amount of fellow Celtic fans who can’t take it in that, they are paying for their own misery!
The Celtic hierarchy are, Robin Hoods in reverse! IMO!
Now, we are reduced to, waiting/hoping for the hun demise to make us feel better about our Celtic lives!
Why should that be the case ?
We, Celtic FC/Fans are and always will be the, David v’s the hun/Goliaths as long as we play in Scotland/Hunland! IMO!
Hail! Hail!
Kevin says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:51
I didn’t know Spiers had said that but I think he’s a sham of writer anyway, did you see him of the documentry acting like he had his finger on the pulse.
Why didn’t he break the story then.
You might be right Kevin, I am not convinced they will cease to exist but there’s a right stink from down Govan way and blows all the way up to the SFA…
As Lester Freeman would say “Follow the MONEY”
Hail Hail
philvisreturns says:
26 October, 2011 at 09:29
I would favour a more Guantanamo Bay style approach to incarceration. But rather than orange boiler suits, which would probably regarded as a treat, they should be forced to wear green ones.