We want a win, but let’s not kid ourselves

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We are almost week on from Morton (our only mustn’t lose game in March) but there will be a business-like atmosphere around Lennoxtown today as the team prepare to go to Ibrox, scene of three consecutive wins since Newco were promoted to top flight football.  Brendan and his players are all too aware of the big talk coming from Murray Park.  If ever they needed motivation, they didn’t need to look far.

Fans of either colour, who have been around long enough, will recognise the occasion, but this is not the way you and I used to feel about going to Ibrox.  Back in the old days I preferred to go there as slight underdogs, which was often as good as it got for Celtic fans.  Now, we travel to every ground in the country as strong favourites, no matter what our form.  This is nothing like it was in the pre-liquidation years.

I want to win, of course, but I would have been devastated if we’d lost to Morton.  Sunday’s game cannot reach me the same way.  This is a step on the road to what will hopefully be a treble, don’t pretend it is about winning the league, it’s just not.

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  1. South Of Tunis on

    PTFC pal -reports hearing this at a Milngavie bus stop —

     

     

    Blue rinse # 1 –

     

     

    “You won’t see me at the Kirk on Sunday — there’s an Old Firm game on — there’ll be drunks everywhere “.

     

     

    Blue rinse #2.

     

     

    ” Didn’t know that -ever since Bobby died i’ve not had to pay any attention to the football “

  2. Nah,

     

     

    This is a massive game. It’s the first game against Sevco where there’s hope if not expectation among the hun support and associated media lapdogs.

     

     

    We must extinguish that hope.

     

     

    Hosepipe in the mouth time (from a long time ago):-)

     

     

    Árd Macha

  3. BRTH,

     

    That wasn’t meant as criticism on my part – I hope you didn’t take it that way – 100% tongue firmly in cheek.

     

    Your posts here are one of the main reasons myself, and I dare say others, still read these pages avidly. So much so that I Often save them and re-read them before falling asleep each night whilst gazing at the picture i keep of you on my bedside table ;-)

  4. The last time I sat in Ibrokes was during the fraudulent Rainjurs years and the Celtic goalkeeper was Ian Andrews, alot of Celtic fans won’t need to look up the result, and may instead have flashbacks. Over the preceding years we enjoyed some good days in the open desert of a Celtic end, including a memorable midweeker when Joe Craig would have burst the net with the winner had it not come off the staunchion, and whizzed back out.

     

     

    Rainjurz on the other hand had a new English International midfielder straight from the training ground of Serie A from the Rossoneri, to the other devils as it transpired.

     

     

    I remember vividly it was the day my elder much smarter brother first said to me, something like “How can they afford to buy Ray Wilkins’? and at that time like everybody else I accepted it was because we only had a biscuit tin. We know differently now thanks to her majesty and the real boys in blue that they really couldn’t afford Ray Wilkins.

     

     

    It’ll soon be six years since the sleight of hand that somehow allowed this fixture to be billed the same it was back then, to the way it is on Sunday whilst Scotland looks on and sighs….ah the Old Firm….’what are they like’ .

     

     

    The difference is, and never forget it, is that this gap that appeared in 2012 will and can never be bridged, no matter how many points they give Sevco. The arcade once awash with taxpayers money is now penniless, and Glasgow Celtic prevailed proudly as champions, the only club to whom you could attribute the cause of the demise, of a rival.

     

     

    Score; Sevco 1 Celtic 4

  5. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    I think we can all agree that Mousse Dembélé has come back on to his game.

     

     

    It got me thinking of his headed goals against Aberdeen and, especially Morton, plus his surging run to lay on Kieren’s goal.

     

     

    My thinking led me to think, ” Hey up, lad, you look as if you are trusting your hamstrings again”.

     

     

    Long may it last.

  6. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    Bateen Bhoy on 9th March 2018 3:13 pm

     

     

    Wash your mind out with carbolic or some other acidic substance lol.

     

     

    No I didn’t take it as any kind of criticism at all and my reply was a Froday afternoon attempt at humour.

     

     

    Can I add that I have no problem with either criticism or a different point of view either as the oul shoulders are broad and the day job requires me to expect, receive and deal with argument and counter argument on a daily basis.

     

     

    I am now immune as I have gotten used to it ……. Ooops!

  7. Brogan Rogan Trevino and Hogan on

    BTW Froday is the new Thursday or something like that…………..

  8. mike in toronto on

    BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 9TH MARCH 2018 4:10 PM

     

    Bateen Bhoy on 9th March 2018 3:13 pm

     

     

    Wash your mind out with carbolic or some other acidic substance lol.

     

    ********

     

     

    You taking the mantle on from the much missed DD?

     

     

    Would not have taken you for a Timothy Leary fan!

     

     

    Turn on, tune in, drop outCSC

     

     

    :)

  9. Good evening, friends.

     

    Hope that Hibs turn up tonight with Big Efe nullifying Lafferty.

  10. I won’t be at Ibrox as I can’t bring myself to go there after the cheating. I do go to see the Sevco at Celtic park but not at Hampden. As a TV watcher, I think Celtic will have to face up to a lot on Sunday.

     

    They will be playing a Sevco team in decent form with a confidence they haven’t had before.

     

    A Hostile media who are creaming themselves at the boys in blue ably backed up by the latest “soup taker” Commons

     

    A doubting support who seem to not fully believe in the manager or the players

     

    Confrontational Stewarding and Policing.

     

    However, I still feel that we will Triumph

     

    We have better players in almost every position

     

    We have a better Manager and Coaching team.

     

    We have a better track record

     

     

    I feel our support will have a great day extracting the urine from the Zombies.

     

     

    HH

  11. Soup-taker

     

     

    (Ireland) a person who has sold out their beliefs, referring to the Irish potato famine when some Catholics converted to a Protestant faith in order to gain access to a free meal.

  12. Gents,

     

    What’s So Funny ‘Bout Peace, Love, and Understanding :-)

     

    Dog knows, there’ll be little enough of it this weekend.

     

    I’m probably the most inoffensive Aberdonian you’ll ever meet ;-)

  13. mike in toronto on

    Bigbhoy

     

     

    Not a dig at you, but, the phrase was mentioned in your post, so more of an opportunity to throw something out there …

     

     

    the term soup taker ….I would say that it is one that is not accurate or should be used …

     

     

    people were ‘forced’ to convert …. starve or else …. not sure what I would do if I, or god forbid, my kids, didn’t have enough to eat ….

     

     

    and, I haven’t heard KC’s comments, so I cant comment on whether or not he has jumped the dyke or not ….

     

     

    but, some take the Queen’s shilling when they dearly are not under duress or starving …. so, soup taker may be too good for some of them!

     

     

    but, for those that have sold their souls and are not actually starving … maybe quisling is a better word …

     

     

    Vidkun Quisling was a Norwegian prime minister during WW2 who headed up the collaborationist government, after Germany invaded Norway . His name is synonymous with traitor, someone who sells out his own people.

  14. We simply HAVE to win on Sunday, life or death stuff. Keep that scum in their bigot box, no oxygen please.

     

    MUST MUST WIN

     

     

     

    KINGLuBO

  15. BSR

     

     

    We should have nothing but sympathy for those original `Soup-takers` and nothing but contempt for the modern versions.

     

    JJ

  16. Don’t agree with article downplaying importance of Sunday outcome. It should be remembered that this fixture is followed by 2 trips to Edinburgh and a trip to Motherwell before seasons end. The corresponding fixtures from earlier this season yielded 2 points gained from a possible 9 when the team was its fair to say functioning more efficiently. SUNDAY IS CRITICAL.

  17. BMCW I would be more than happy to pass on the Lisbon images to WillieFernie, but i gave them to that rogue BRTH, as i think he has a cunning plan for them. So, if it’s alright with him i will pass them on to Willie. PS i can’t do the “post a folder” thing and as there are over a hundred from the dinner, stadium and street party, it’s way over what i can post from my laptop. It was a pleasure capturing that wonderful historic and emotional week not only meeting fellow posters but actually remembering what they looked like next morning! now that’s a photographic memory. Stay focused. Frantic07.

  18. Soup taker may have been an old term turned to a modern situation. The shame of the soup taker was not the poor soul who was starving but the shame was in the Religious Christians of the Protestant type who were willing to leave starving people to it unless they converted to their sect. That is the shame. Jesus would have wept

     

     

    Kris Commons has been at Celtic long enough and has been paid enough to never need to work again. Really, his personal wealth will be upwards of £8 million. He has finished playing and looking for a job as a pundit. It now looks that he has taken the well trodden path of giving his bosses what they want by saying things like that if Murty was Rangers manager at the start of the season they would have won the League

     

     

    This path trodden by Walker, Nicholas, Provan, McLeod and many others.

     

     

    A Quisling may be a better term as it is equates to a traitor. But “soup taker” seems closer to the mark as someone who is prepared to change his beliefs for material gain.

     

     

    As the season has gone on he has moved from a neutral pundit into a critic of Celtic and an appeasser of Sevco.

     

     

    So rather than “turning your coat” “biting the hand that feeds you” “taking the Kings shilling” or Quisling which seem suitable. I will stand by “soup taker”. It’s nothing to do with Religion and I don’t know what religion he is, if any.

     

     

    As you are aware Celtic is a club open to all religions or none.

  19. Bigbhoy

     

    As you say, the `Soup-takers ` were not the victims. Why, then, do you still feel it is appropriate to use the term for the Walkers of this world?

     

    JJ

  20. If your about WillieFernie I will post some Lisboa 50 images on CQN facebook page if that helps.

     

    Time for a beer in the local hostelry, it’s full of expectant huns who have never seen the new incarnation of their team! Spouting how they are back and it’s squeaky bum time for GDC 11 as they call us here in Parkhead. Which is quite ironic as its Celtic that have revamped the area they stay in, Morons.

  21. Mahe the Madman on

    BRTH from the last blog

     

    a very well worded and thought out post.

     

    if I may

     

     

    you wrote,,,

     

    “Celtic PLC have had serious chats about American Franchises or even buying other clubs in other leagues so I am told, but while that is all very inetersting the heart and soul of the club is based in Glasgow and not Philadelphia or New York or Milton Keynes etc and I for one wouldn’t be happy with upping sticks from Glasgow to follow some mad notion of a global franchise based somewhere in the US of A or elsewhere.”

     

     

    you wouldn’t be happy if Celtic moved from Glasgow. Ok, but for what reason because if its just going to games then you are being selfish.

     

    Our aim should be to hand the next generation a club and a league that we are proud of.

     

    I yearn for a clean thriving league that will embrace and be proud of its leading club and the great men and women who follow it. Now after 130 years of playing in Scotland are we any closer to that aim?

     

    Will we be embraced? We all know the answer.

     

    The game in Scotland has utterly utterly failed me. I haven’t watched it in years and refuse to let my wee one know of my ‘love” (and it was, it truly was) of the club. That is pure failure.

     

    If moving would bring us to a healthier stronger league we should grab the chance.

     

    The masonic corrupt farce that is currently Scottish football would collapse without us and I couldn’t care less what happens to its rotten carcass, I really couldn’t.

     

    Our former chairman Bob Kelly would have had us out of Scotland on a point of principle over the tricolor issue remember,,what would you have said to him?

     

    Currently almost anywhere else would be a better deal in terms of governing body, refs, tv revenue, mindset of other teams supporters and more, like support when you’ve a big European game coming up.

     

    Ive no idea how many disenfranchised there are like me but I suspect if the report is a whitewash a few thousand of us will buy one of those franchises and adjust its constitution to be more in line with what we believe Celtic, the Celtic that Brother Walfrid envisioned, should have become.

     

    Rule number one this club is and always will be non profit.

     

    Don’t get me wrong I’m not advocating for a move and my preference would be for the home stadium to stay where it is while travelling to another country for away games ( like the Canadian teams in the MLS) but I certainly don’t see Glasgow as the be all and end all. Its a page in the Celtic story just like Belfast Celtic is a different page of the same story.

     

    Should Glasgow Celtic move elsewhere or end it could and should be considered a success considering,,,

     

    they reached the very pinnacle of the game with only local bhoys and no one will ever repeat that

     

    they will have walked away from corruption with dignity intact

     

    the current setup would provide enough funds for the new journey after all weve never been soo flush.

     

     

    Theres a fixation with staying in Glasgow on here and I think its mostly down to habit and lifestyle but lads, the Scottish lads that is, you might have to travel one day, just as thousands of us made our way there.

     

    Also if governing bodies know that under no circumstances will we agree to move away from Parkhead as our home stadium that’s a pretty weak starting position in any bargaining.

     

    nothing should be off the table here.

     

     

     

    you wrote,,

     

    “I can’t renember who asked why we were more than just a club or a club like no other – but given the work that the foundation do (this year Celtic fans will feed over 80, 000 kids in third world countries and a lot of other things besides) it is pretty obvious to me that we are closer to the ideal of the founding fathers today than we have been at any time within the past 100 years — and yes that is down to Fergus!

     

     

    it was myself that asked the original question. like you mention its the fans doing that work so what does that have to do with the club? Best fans in the world would seem like a more apt description no?

     

    More than a club,,,,most clubs have charitable foundations. Do we give a bigger percentage of our revenue to ours than others because that would be a great reason to say more than a club.

     

    I tell you what we are about to have a record turnover year,,lets see if the clubs contributions to the foundation are record this year also to match eh.

     

    As far as being closer to our founding ethos as you believe we are I feel the complete opposite.

     

    We are making millionaires richer while getting shafted from all sides and I really really fail to see how that is in any way close to what our founder wanted.

     

     

     

    you wrote,,,,

     

    ” I am more optimistic about some of the people involved in the Scottish game today than I was 5 years ago. ”

     

     

    that truly staggers me. My question is who? Anyone speaks out they and their club get targeted. So who are we talking about here? Where have these good people been for the last 6 odd years ?

     

    Under Paul Mc Bride ( RIP) I felt some optimism that we wouldn’t be getting shafted anymore but that’s gone just like the good man himself is.

     

    Under Lenny I felt we had a leader we could unite under but he got flung under the bus.

     

    Again that statement staggers me. I’m the polar opposite.

     

     

     

    you wrote,,,

     

    ” which is why I say that at some point if Scottish Football does not want to be seen to do the right thing then Celtic, whilst still participating in Scottish Football, should seriously look at whether or not its fans want to financially support others in Scottish Football who will not actively and willfully support proper sporying competition.”

     

     

    Its been 130 years BRTH. Read that again. 130 years. At some point? How long would you have us wait ?

     

     

     

    you wrote,,,

     

    “The PLC are not perfect and personally I would never have supported this business model because it promised something that it was never going to deliver but it may be the best of a bad lot.”

     

     

    And that is why , if the report is a whitewash, I hope your fine self will become involved with drawing up the constitution of the new franchise or amateur club or whatever new vehicle of our hopes and dreams so it can eventually be closer to what you , me, and Brother Walfrid dream of.

     

     

     

    I hope this finds you in good health. I admire your posts.

     

     

    Hail Hail

  22. Bada

     

    That was very good. The bit I particularly liked was ` especially on the Continent`as though the Good Ol` Brits would behave much more honorably !!

     

     

    JJ

  23. Incidentally, Super -Sevco gained 12 points from their last five league games. Slumping Celtic gained 10 .

     

    No wonder Sevco Scotland is so confident !!

     

     

    JJ

  24. 50 Shades

     

    I didn`t notice that ! perhaps we have arranged a trial match for Armstrong and BSR was teasing ?

     

     

    JJ

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