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Weekend at Bernie’s, response to the refugees, Ralph Milne

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Well done to the thousands who turned up for the Jock Stein 30th Anniversary game at Dunfermline yesterday. Money from the match is already helping refugees through the British Red Cross’s Europe Refugee Crisis Appeal.

The club site this morning reported David Miller of the Red Cross said, “Celtic FC Foundation and their fans’ support will make a real difference to the refugees and communities affected across Europe and in neighbouring countries. Thank you for supporting the appeal.”

We have a great auction coming up this week for hospitality at the Dundee game later this month, all funds going to the Foundation.  Look out for it.

I was sorry to hear of the passing of Ralph Milne yesterday. Ralph was one of the outstanding talents of Scottish football when he won the league with Dundee United in 1983, a day after his 22nd birthday.

His scored the goal which won the league, but the memory of his chance in the European Cup semi-final, a year later away to Roma, still induces regret. 27 years later Roma would admit to bribing the referee for that game, as they progressed to the final with a 3-2 aggregate.  A few years after winning the league the writing was on the wall for Ralph’s career.

I watched him playing a student team on a public park, telling the incredulous English person I was with about Ralph’s European Cup semi-final exploits three years earlier.  He then floated around the English lower leagues before Sir Alex Ferguson signed him for Manchester United.  Fergie remember the Ralph we were all amazed at from the 82-85 era, but by then (1988) Ralph was a a shadow of his former self.  One of the game’s greats became one of its parodies.

Weekend at Bernie’s

Kick back and give yourself 20 minutes to have a read at Weekend at Bernie’s, recently published by the Hostile Monkey blog. In the light of last week’s court appearances it is a fully referenced, line-by-line, assessment of the “same club myth”, detailing six areas instances of the debate:

The Lord Nimmo-Smith Commission Argument
The European Football Club Association Argument
The UEFA website argument
The Advertising Standards Authority argument
The BBC Trust Argument
The SFA Registration Argument

It’s worth bookmarking for future reference.

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  1. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    S.F.T.B.

     

    “Recognising that not all migrants are refugees is the first step to finding a constructive way forward ”

     

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    Now that`s where the big divide exists.

     

    Yes it is the first step.

     

    The basic issue is to provide assistance to the needy. Not to economic migrants.

     

    You would be aware of the circumstances surrounding the tragic drowning of the child.

     

    $16,000 worth of dental implants was the driving force.IF the aunt of the child is to be believed.

     

    Now don`t argue with me .Argue with her.

     

     

    Too late ,I`m afraid for me to continue our discussion.

     

    However,Australia is the biggest accepter of refugees per head of our population in the world.

     

    And in real terms second or third.

     

    Oz accepted 4,500 refugees from Syria one year ago before the rest of the world took much notice.

     

    Sorry, beddy byes.

     

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  2. ISIS have scored another tactical victory over the Assad regime.

     

     

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/07/islamic-state-takes-syrian-government-last-oilfield-reports-say

     

     

    Islamic State fighters have seized the last major oilfield under Syrian government control during battles over a vast central desert zone, a group monitoring the conflict has said.

     

     

    The Jazal field has been shut down and clashes are carrying on east of Homs, with casualties reported on both sides, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Monday, without giving dates or more details.

     

     

    Syria’s army said it had fought back an attack in the same area but did not mention Jazal or comment on how much of the country’s battered energy infrastructure remained under its influence. It said it killed 25 fighters, including foreign jihadis.

     

     

    “The regime has lost the last oilfield in Syria,” said the observatory, which tracks violence through a network of sources on the ground.

     

     

    Commentators on social media said fighting had surged in the last two to three days and Isis had taken the oilfield on Sunday.

     

     

    Jazal is a medium-sized field that lies to the north-west of the rebel-held ancient city of Palmyra, close to a region that holds Syria’s main natural gas fields and multimillion-dollar extraction facilities.

     

     

    The army, which has been fighting to retake the city and surrounding areas since May, had managed to secure the oilfield’s perimeter in June.

     

     

    The observatory also said US-led coalition bombing raids in areas in the militant’s de facto capital of Raqqa had killed at least 16 militants, including five foreign jihadis.

     

     

    Islamist insurgents bombarded the heart of the Syrian capital Damascus and mortars killed at least one civilian and wounded scores, state television said.

  3. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 7TH SEPTEMBER 2015 1:31 PM

     

    thom the thim

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Have to get back to work.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I don’t have the absolute figures to hand but, if you google

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Humanitarian aid by countries

     

     

     

     

    Humanitarian aid by countries to Syria

     

     

     

     

    Humanitarian aid by countries as a proportion of GDP

     

     

     

     

    Humanitarian aid by countries to Syria as a proportion of GDP

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Two of these came from the Guardian, I recall

     

     

     

    *****

     

    Who, me?

     

     

    I never opened me mooth!

     

     

    Try and steer clear of politics on a football blog.

     

     

    Rather concentrate on what unites us, rather than divides us.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Back to work- lunchbreak over

  4. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Back to work- lunchbreak over

     

     

    SFTB has gone back to work.

     

     

    I am a man of leisure and pleasure.

  5. Humanitarianism/GDP Oh! if only it were that easy any mug would figure it out and vainglory the panacea.

     

     

    There is no simple answer, for me it boils down to what I can achieve as opposed that which I will never achieve.

     

     

    Get one out, just one, then go back for another. Then another, and stay out of jail.

     

     

    Keep bringing the food bags to Parkhead. Parkhead is PARADISE in the stomachs of a lot of hungry human beings, who through no fault of their own other than accident of birth, they cannot feed themselves nor their dependants.

     

     

    How about the world suspended all arms manufacture and grew crops instead?

     

     

    Oh! if only it was that easy.

     

     

    What’s the answer… get just one out and see what time will kill. I have no other answer.

  6. The Battered Bunnet on

    Quick shout out…

     

     

    I recall seeing on the blog recently that there’s a 5’s group playing at Eastfield, Cambuslang* on a Friday evening.

     

     

    Any details?

     

     

    *Not trying to start an Eastfield/Cambuslang debate

  7. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    KITALBA

     

     

    I refer you back to the post I replied to,from BRISBANE67 at 1255

     

     

    Not only was he wrong in his assertion,he’s bloody crap at geography too.

     

     

    The countries I referred to border. Syria. The ones he referred to don’t. By some distance.

     

     

    FWIW,the comments in reply to him and MACJAY are not intended as an attack on Australia and its people. Any more than disagreeing wi me suggests that Swindon is full of idiots.

     

     

    Insert punchline of choice…

  8. Macjay

     

     

    What you just posted is a crock of shit. Don’t boast in ignorance Australia’s self-generated myths whilst denying its failings, you only invite ridicule, and please don’t me Wikipedia in defence of your last post or any other misinformed crock of garbage, or I will vomit.

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Interesting first page,that.

     

     

    Pity about my nightshift,canny hang around much for Round 2.

     

     

    What I think is the outcome of previous comments is that there are no easy answers to what is quite simply a humanitarian disaster. If we could fix it,we would.

     

     

    Some seem happy to turn their back,others to go further than probably sustainable.

     

     

    I genuinely don’t know the answer,but I’m pretty sure the country won’t be bankrupted by,say,100,000 Syrians,when we admit 330,000 from elsewhere each year.

  10. Not sure about that last track…..but the visuals are awesome…..away to chase a laser dot ;-))

     

     

    H.H.

     

     

    play nice now

  11. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS:

     

     

    If you were one of those 300,000, or those 100,000, and you had a family beyond your earthly means to sustain, to what ends would you go to keep your family breathing? I know how far, every single inch and yard and mile and pain and disdain and ridicule and shame and beating and humiliation and violation that I would.

     

     

    This world will tear your eyes to dust and bleed your heart to stone, or you will ignore it an look after your own, and that too I understand and to a degree condone, but you’ll die soulless.

  12. Kitalba

     

     

    You mean like this boy.

     

     

    One day a man was walking along the beach when he noticed

     

    a boy picking something up and gently throwing it into the ocean.

     

     

    Approaching the boy, he asked, What are you doing?

     

     

    The youth replied, Throwing starfish back into the ocean.

     

    The surf is up and the tide is going out. If I don’t throw them back, they’ll die.

     

     

    Son, the man said, don’t you realize there are miles and miles of beach and hundreds of starfish?

     

    You can’t make a difference!

     

     

    After listening politely, the boy bent down, picked up another starfish,

     

    and threw it back into the surf. Then, smiling at the man, he said

     

    I made a difference for that one.

     

     

    MWD said AYE

  13. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    KITALBA

     

     

    My point was that the UK has not been bankrupted by 330,00 new arrivals a year,so I doubt that 100,000 Syrians would be a problem to assimilate.

     

     

    If you read that wrong,or I read your post wrong,I apologise.

     

     

    I believe we have room for people in need. Certainly much more than,say,Lebanon,which as I pointed out earlier has seen its population double due to refugees. That is simply unsustainable but our government’s response is simply wicked.

  14. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS:

     

     

    Mate I did not misconstrue your point, please believe me, I was only inviting you to walk in the shoes of those who have nothing and nothing to lose. Just in your mind. Just like all those walking ghosts from An Gorta Mor once walked in naked hope and a piece of bread. And if they had not walked, we would not be dead, we would not be born.

  15. Regarding “Weekend at Bernie’s” and the whole Sevco/Rangers saga… Does anybody else think that it would be better off if somebody produced a podcast for this kind of thing?

     

     

    Take “Serial” as an example. A podcast covering a murder investigation of a girl from Baltimore has become a worldwide sensation. Not only that, but the followup podcast “Undisclosed” has also been a massive success.

     

     

    “As Serial was being broadcast, two attorneys, independently from me, began investigating and blogging about the case. Susan Simpson, an attorney from the DC area, and Colin Miller, a law professor from South Carolina, wrote prolifically on every angle of the investigation, prompting me to offer them all of the source documents so they could continue to dig. Over the past six months, this produced evidence suggesting that elements of the case may have been inaccurate….

     

     

    However, this information didn’t get much exposure; reading lengthy, heavy blogs was not in the public interest, and now that Serial was over, people were moving on. Thus our own podcast, Undisclosed, was born.”

     

     

    http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/shortcuts/2015/sep/06/serial-podcast-what-happened-adnan-syeds-case

     

     

    Don’t get me wrong, a Scottish fitba podcast would never get close to the amount of listens that “Serial” or “Undisclosed” has. I doubt “True White-Collar Crime” stories will ever rival “True Crime” for popularity.

     

     

    It definitely would get more coverage than these dense blog posts though?

  16. MoonbeamsWD on 7th September 2015 2:15 pm

     

     

    Nice story, but ecologically questionable. Surely that brat is interfering in a well established eco system without understanding the effect of his actions?

  17. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    KITALBA on 7TH SEPTEMBER 2015 1:52 PM

     

    Macjay

     

    What you just posted is a crock of shit. Don’t boast in ignorance Australia’s self-generated myths whilst denying its failings, you only invite ridicule, and please don’t me Wikipedia in defence of your last post or any other misinformed crock of garbage, or I will vomit.

     

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    O.K.

  18. jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on

    Chairbhoy

     

     

     

    Yes Josh plays for the 20s just now going out on loan to East Kilbride for 6 months. Chris Mc Carte wants him to get some game and E K were looking for a C B.

     

     

    Ps sorry for the late reply been loaded with a bad flu!! H H

  19. The lad obviously had the intelligence to know his Crown of Thorne starfish from other non venemous constellations. Otherwise he’d be dead. So I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he knew he was not causing an ecological disaster.

     

     

    MWD said AYE

  20. MoonbeamsWD on 7th September 2015 2:43 pm

     

     

    Your lack of critical thinking and rational analysis is consistent, I’ll give you that.

  21. And in your vanity Macjay, an affluent man, a man of education and skills, a man educated by the grace of God who sired you in Glasgow…

     

     

    you command the right to stand on this soil over the beggar who never knew a school or a breakfast….

     

     

    You deem it your God given right?

     

     

    Pennies for the beggar mate…. Drowning for the refugees….

  22. Ernie

     

     

    I find no need to be critical of what is a simple parable nor did it require the intelligence of google to provide some rational analysis – just a visit to the sea life centre. :0)

     

     

    MWD said AYE

  23. When will the “Intelligence” Agencies of the West show a little intelligence. They mucked about with Iraq, Syria and Libya just to name 3 and created a tsunami that is now sweeping over Europe.

     

    Kitalba has made some wonderful passionate posts about this tide of human misery that the war mongers have created. We above anyone else should open our hearts and minds to these poor people. The horrors of the Irish Genocide is in our DNA, USA and their Allies created this disaster they now need to solve it.

  24. The Battered Bunnet

     

     

    I think it was Andy53 who was posting bout the 5 a sides who was posting bout 5s at Eastfield/Cambuslang

     

     

    HH

  25. And I will look after your son with the same affection and compassion and freedom I would adopt and extend a refugee.

     

     

    But I can’t adopt a refugee… I’m too old.

     

     

    When people asked why I was not an Australian citizen I always replied how many times did you try and sign up to the ADF, they most often said never, I suspect you could honestly only reply the same, I tried again and again and again and again and they told me again and again and again and again that I was too old.

     

     

    But the difference between me and the plastic immigrants and the coward citizens… I tried and tried, and tried again, but I was too old, but I wasn’t. When are you ever too old to die? When are you ever too rich to die?

     

     

    Did you? Did you ever try? Or did you just take the money?

     

     

    Have you ever tried to donate blood in Australia> Have you? As a UK citizen have you ever tried to donate blood?

     

     

    How insulting the rejection….

     

     

    And then I would say listen to my accent… do I sound like a feckin Australian?

     

     

    You take their coin you pay their taxes, but that does not mean to say you ever have to sell your moral soul.

     

     

    O.K.

     

     

    O.K.

     

     

    O.K.

     

     

    I remember and I never cashed the cheque. I never would.

  26. Corkcelt

     

     

    I believe said Intelligence agencies acting at the behest of their governments who are puppets to global business and economic markets, have created exactly what they set out to create. A world were arms can be traded readily, a world were construction will be required, a world were peoples will seek asylum, a world were communities will be threatened by those seeking asylum, a world were fear disaorder, war, death and profit from the aforementioned is King.

     

     

    MWD said AYE

  27. •-:¦:-•**• -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    CORKCELT on 7TH SEPTEMBER 2015 2:56 PM

     

    When will the “Intelligence” Agencies of the West show a little intelligence. They mucked about with Iraq, Syria and Libya just to name 3 and created a tsunami that is now sweeping over Europe.

     

     

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    And this after seeing what happened in FYR in the power vacuum after Tito died. Intelligence is a misnomer.

  28. Kitalba

     

     

    We can get angry and frustrated at the inhumanity shown by so many affluent people, including, sadly, some who claim to be imbued with the ethos of our club.

     

    Macjay and Brisbane 67 are examples. I will never engage with either on here again.

     

    I’m truly disgusted at their attitude.

  29. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    ÁRD MACHA on 7TH SEPTEMBER 2015 2:33 PM

     

    thomthethim,

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Lounging around as usual:-)

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Árd Macha

     

     

    Started the day with good intentions. Early run to Dungloe then intended to cut the out of control grass……..but, alas, it has been misty, drizzly all day, so, yes, lounging around as usual.

  30. KITALBA @ 2 53

     

     

    ” Drowning for the refugees—” .

     

     

    or being battered to death ( after you have been multiply raped ) in a hell hole holding camp in Libya .

     

     

    or dying of heat stroke and dehydration as you attempt to cross the Mediteranean..

     

     

    or being shot and thrown overboard by a gun toting gangster who doesn’t like being asked for Some water please .

     

     

    or being trampled to death in a stampede as people fight to get on a boat..

     

     

    or dying of diseases like pneumonia caught in a hell hole holding camp in Libya .

     

     

    or being murdered on a boat because some of the other passengers are somewhat prejudiced re your religion ..

     

     

    etc etc .

     

     

    Some 3000 human beings have died in Sicilian water since the 1st of January 2015 .

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