If you review the comments section in August, you will note the demand for a holding midfield player to be purchased. There was corresponding anger (to put it mildly) immediately after the close of the window that one wasn’t purchased. Roll on three months and it’s difficult to see where such a player would fit in, even during Champions League games.
Instead space opened up for Stuart Armstrong, who, often used on the left, was well out of the picture last season. Now he’s playing central mid and earned two assists and a goal on Saturday, leapfrogging Nir Bitton and Callum McGregor for his place.
McGregor again answered the call at left back, but his move into the middle at halftime changed the game. Two goals down, Celtic needed someone to take a grip on the game. Operating with very little space McGregor played a one-two with Armstrong, dropped the shoulder on a defender, before finding the corner of the net. True control under pressure.
Kolo Toure’s first game back from injury was memorable for the wrong reasons, caught ball-watching for Louis Moult’s goals, the first of which is Goal of the Season material. Sharpness will improve for Kolo, but the change in defence illustrates how effective the Sviatchenko-Simunovic partnership has been.
Graeme Souness met the Scottish media last week and gave his personal insight into the game. On Celtic’s dominance, which he was unequivocal about, he posed one question: “What does 10-in-a-row matter?”
I know one Celtic fan who is neither here nor there on the subject of 10-in-a-row but for most of us, that number of consecutive league titles has enormous resonance. 46 years ago Celtic broke their own record to go seven-in-a-row. When nine was achieved two years later it met with little enthusiasm, but a target was created – and met.
Nine-in-a-row was a record many of us were enormously proud of but it’s no longer something we can shout about, nobody can, when two share the achievement.
I suspect the week after 10 is achieved we’ll wonder what all the fuss was about but our world view will change. 10-in-a-row represents the horizon for many of us, we cannot seriously consider what lies beyond until we’re there.
Here’s a couple of thoughts for you. We’ll no longer count our achievements in years, but in Generations. Generations of Celtic fans will perhaps know the occasional blip, but that’s as harsh as it will get.
Perhaps more tellingly, Celtic will not to lose another Scottish league title in their lifetime of a fair percentage of fans. It’ll be green and white, right ‘til the end.
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Gordon_J on 5th December 2016 3:20 pm
I agree the SPFL that lists all of Rangers´s history and cup wins on it´s website and who Doncaster stated was the same club will only deduct 15 points. They will not need too however.
It is getting to the stage where I am thinking Phils output is directly related to Resolution 12 squirrels
HH
Good Afternoon.
Something new. About the most detailed of forensic investigations…
https://theclumpany.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/a-forensic-examination/
My post on page 41 of the previous thread.
I have apologised for suggesting that maybe the critics of the res 12 bhoys on here are somehow ” jealous” ?
I have changed that opinion on page 41 of previous thread .
HH
Gordon_J
A reasonable point, but look at the first sentence of E5:
“Where a Club, whether owned and operated by the same or a different Member…”
Now the Member is the holder of one Ordianary Share in the SPFL. The SPFL was created after the Oldco/Newco horror show. Therefore, the Member will be regarded as whoever the SPFL fancy it being (i.e. oldco or newco). My bet, the same club myth would be preserved ahead of a difference of 10 points. But the Admin 2 thing is a huge if…
KIKINTHENAKAS on 5TH DECEMBER 2016 2:56 PM
Anyone looking for City ticket in our end Johann Murdoch has a spare and you can contact Paul67 for his contact details
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Gone to a very good home! :)
Somethings happened at Sevco
Since october.
Is there a glitch?
Money in?
Whose no contributed? The supporters, parks or………one guess:)
Res11 failing is a dullyin.no more soft money laundering for promised. loo roll stock
I guess if they cant have stock then the soft loan gets renegotiated? Called in? Pushed out? At a fee of courseProblems eh
On the money out
Repair? Buildings.is it safe? Certified
Wages- they cant exactly go to ticketus!
SFA should demand a bond of the new club to ensure they can carry out fixtures.
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Things will change.history changed when that cva failed.
HH
Davidopoulos on 5th December 2016 3:30 pm
5 years is up mid February
HH
SLOLEYBHOY
He’s got fixed up with two.
Many thanks for the offer though.
Paul67.
I tend to disagree with Paul about Celtic failing to land 10 in a row in the 1970s.
At the time I was 20 years old and dating a girl from an orange bigoted background, and her family gave me pelters.
As if that wasn’t enough I married her soon after, just to get my own back on her family ?
I also disagree Paul on your suggestion that looking back Celtic’s nine in a row is somehow diminished cos of oldco doing likewise, especially with money they shouldn’t have had.
I disagree as whenever a Hun felt the need to remind me that they also did it, I always replied, ” Maybe so, but Celtic’s nine in a row was achieved when the Scottish league was probably at its strongest ever, with excellent Hibs, Aberdeen, hearts, Kilmarnock and dare I say it oldco teams challenging strongly most of those years .
I also would remind same Huns that ” No one remembers who ran the second 4 minute Mile, and no one remembers who was the second man to climb Everest” ?
Slap bang in the middle of Celtic’s nine in a row, I had just started my very first job as a 15 year old , and I can still picture the Huns faces most Monday mornings on that building site when Celtic had won yet again the previous Saturday…magic !
HH
This is from JJ’S site from yesterday on the barriers to TRFC/RIFC obtaining a UEFA licence FROM UEFA who make the final decision when a licence cannot be granted by the SFA under normal rules.
Imagine on 3 August 2011 that Malmo had just exited the CL qualifying round to Rangers.
They are despondent but accept they were beaten fair and square.
Then 7 days later on 10th August Sherriff Officers call on Rangers to collect overdue unpaid tax dating back to 2001/02.
Do the Swedes think “wow HMRC don’t mess around. It takes just 6 days after determining tax is due that they send in the heavy team?”
Or
“That’s strange it usually takes a good few months at least of tax being owed before such extreme measures are taken.
Johan! Get me UEFA’s number at Nyon!”
The point which folk seem to overlook so indoctrinated by the myth of power that TRFC/RIFC hold is that it’s just not Aberdeen or Hearts (or Celtic) who will be watching the SFA like a hawk but UEFA and their member clubs.
FFP is such a key factor in UEFA’s governing policy they simply cannot afford any national association to ignore it with impunity.
The world has changed since 1994 and since 2011/2012, so sit back and watch for change to unfold one nano second after another and open your minds to the reality that the past is not now and the future will not be the past.
AWE NAW
I agree – I was looking at it as if Admin were to happen imminently.
Burgas Hoops
No problem.
2 tickets, both in our end remain on offer.
DAVIDOPOULOS,
The phrase you quote is their attempt to square the circle – they would argue it is the same club but under a new owner/ operator.
But my point still stands. The club (which we would call new and they wouldn’t) has never been penalised under SPFL rules.
Auldheid on 5th December 2016 3:44 pm
but the SFA will grant them a license under abnormal conditions. Precedent has already been set.
None of the Scottish clubs have complained about Rangers being treated as the same club within any body and when you consider that continued participation within Europe gets you voting rights within the ECA and pretty damn quickly (i.e Motherwell have the same status as Celtic) then you have to wonder why Celtic, Hearts and Aberdeen stay quiet upon Sevco being bestowed a lifetime membership (NO MATTER THERE FINANCIAL STATUS)
No European club can use a Scottish place to qualify so that´s a moot point.
It is not the power that TRFC/RIFC hold but the Old Firm … you missed out how influential our billionaire bhoys on the board really are
HH
THEIR
http://www.celticfc.net/tickets/away
at least the huns are only charging 49 quid for the Old Firm game
HH
Auldheid
There is only so much the SFA will be able to help Sevco this time round. The licence application requires certain information. With the basic FFP requirements the information required is much more clear cut than in 2011 with a tax liability – TRFC need to show income and expenses for years T, T-1 and T-2. The results for TRFC over this period will mean that they are in breach of the Break-Even requirement. This should mean that First Instance Body reject the application meaning TRFC have to appeal. The Appeal Body would then have to consider whether there were grounds for a settlement agreement. Such as settlement agreement would require lies from Sevco. Now if we know they are lies, surely clever guys at UEFA would too.
For that reason, I think you are right in that it would be very difficult for this FFP situation to be fudged. However, I understand Awe Naw’s scepticism.
Davidopoulos on 5th December 2016 4:01 pm
The clever guys at UEFA tell the SFA guys what lies to use
HH
The articles by Phil and JJ strike me as a lot of utter pish.
They are about to go bust again has been getting posted on here for 18 months.
The same with ,they are struggling to make this months salary run.
The same with Millions needing spent urgently on there asbestos roofs.
Phil posts a story that someone has just given them £2.9 million ,and has millions more to give them ,then says his source is sending a cryptic clue that we must read between the lines and they are fecked.
When someone posts proven evidence that they need to spend 10 million on the roofs ,and the SFA make a statement that Ayebrokes isn’t safe ,then I will start to believe it.
Am I the only one who is bored to tears with this spurious pish?
TT
Gordon_J
Yes, I see your point now.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
I’m not so sure about that. If they are willing to get heavy handed with Turkish clubs which contribute far more to the UEFA pots of cash than Scotland, then I don’t see why they would be willing to lie on behalf of Sevco. It’s all about the money for UEFA, and the appeal of Sevco doesn’t contribute that much for UEFA to really give a damn, in my opinion.
The same guys ;
That never cared about Rangers sectarian signing policy
That dragged their feet with regards the sectarian singing
That endorsed the sectarianism as something peculiar to Glasgow – oh how cute …and we stayed silent
That have given Dallas, Ogilvie a way out and very recently
The list is endless
Professional football is ran by criminal with shirts and suits on
I fail to see why everyone is waiting on justice to be served.
Russia WC will take place, Qatar WC will take place, Paltini´s multoculti tournie will take place
The Old tax evasion Head of Bayern is back in situ.
Germany the most well ran association in Europe ..riddled with the games administrators on the take
and all of a sudden this organsation is going to pay particular attention to Sevco and a few bob ???
not unless Celtic PLC´s billionaire are screaming out publicly about it ..but they are not because they are playing the game … they are just not very good at it
HH
HH
TinyTim on 5th December 2016 4:07 pm
Spurious
Mmmhhhhhh………….
HH
Davidopoulos on 5th December 2016 4:12 pm
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
I’m not so sure about that. If they are willing to get heavy handed with Turkish clubs which contribute far more to the UEFA pots of cash than Scotland, then I don’t see why they would be willing to lie on behalf of Sevco. It’s all about the money for UEFA, and the appeal of Sevco doesn’t contribute that much for UEFA to really give a damn, in my opinion.
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Actually I’ll withdraw the example of Turkish clubs as evidence – Turkish market pool is actually quite weak.
TINYTIM
Yes, reports of their death (again) may be premature. But, they ARE having to repair the roofs on three stands, their accounts have note of concern, they are running on soft loans (source?), they do have to pay Barton, they are facing a legal challenge from Ashley etc.etc. So, I do believe that they are not well placed financially and their losses are mounting up. Perhaps bot Phil and Jj have over-egged the pudding but for all that I would not put any money on their survival as a going concern. Hardly “pish”. HH
Davidopoulos on 5th December 2016 4:12 pm
I agree to an extent but this is about doing Scotland, The SFA, The SPFL, Celtic PLC a favour. It´s about political alignment within a European organisation
HH
An Teach Solais on 5th December 2016 4:20 pm
Your post has convinced me more that they will than they will not.
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo
You could be right. What do they owe Scotland though?
AWE NAW
Care to expllain your reasoning. I enjoy reading your contrarian views even if I am not always persuaded. HH
TINYTIM on 5TH DECEMBER 2016 4:07 PM
The articles by Phil and JJ strike me as a lot of utter pish.
They are about to go bust again has been getting posted on here for 18 months.
The same with ,they are struggling to make this months salary run.
The same with Millions needing spent urgently on there asbestos roofs.
Phil posts a story that someone has just given them £2.9 million ,and has millions more to give them ,then says his source is sending a cryptic clue that we must read between the lines and they are fecked.
When someone posts proven evidence that they need to spend 10 million on the roofs ,and the SFA make a statement that Ayebrokes isn’t safe ,then I will start to believe it.
Am I the only one who is bored to tears with this spurious pish?
TT
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Phil needs to keep them donations coming in so he needs to keep writing about something.
He clearly has a source within sports direct who feeds him information that they want him to parrot. I’m not sure how much you can trust that lot.
He seems to have some secondary sources close to the Rangers board but I wouldn’t suggest it’s anything more than rumour and gossip.
His information about the goings on at Celtic are rubbish. He doesn’t have a scooby and relies on regurgitating the same rumours posted on Celtic forums.
I admit that I feel compelled to read his blog as I’m always expecting that golden nugget of an exclusive. The last one I remember was when he revealed that King met Ashley in London.
Davidopoulos on 5th December 2016 4:25 pm
Nothing they are doing them a favour that they all asked for.
Ogilvie set up the CL as we know it
Cleland helped to setup the ECA
Rangers are lifelong members of the ECA and always will be. Unquestioned by Celtic.
Bodies buried. Mouths kept quiet. That´s how it works.
HH
DavidOpoulos
The perspective I hold on life is different from Aw Naw.
Our perspective is the result of our experience.
I’ve always been a good finder and I find that life gives us what we look for or perhaps even what we strive for.
My Malmo hypothetical was to make the point TRFC/RIFC getting a licence crosses Scottish Borders and that UEFA value the integrity of their competitions and their flagship FFP policy that protects it much more than they value the local commercial factors that the SFA feel themselves bound by.
Chacun a son gout. :)
AWE_NAW_NO_ANNONI_OAN_ANAW_NOO
So UEFA are doing Celtic a solid by letting the huns play in Europe:)))
Hmmmmm
An Teach Solais on 5th December 2016 4:27 pm
No other club would be protected in this way …woudl have died already. Therefore something is protecting them
something=SNP, CFC PLC, SFA, SPFLC, ECA, UEFA
HH
Sloleybhoy .
I will take those tickets mate if still there .
HH
Auldheid
and that UEFA value the integrity of their competitions and their flagship FFP policy
disagree on this … it is a way to control the G14 that´s all
Real Madrid, Bayern and Barceloan run roughshod all over it … who has won the CL the most recently
Gotta run will pick up any replies tonight .. later tonight.
HH
Aw Naw
What right do Celtic have to question the ECA about TRFC/RIFC’s Associate Membership without voting powers whilst Celtic’s Ordinary ECA Membership gives Celtic voting rights?
What if position was reversed? What right would TRFC/RIFC have to question our membership?
As a single member of the ECA Celtic have as much power over organisational policy as every other participating club, just as they have domestically and quite right to.
By the way, I am not too worried about them playing in Europe.
They will be dumped out early doors. Secondly, I don’t really want them to go bust. I’d rather see Sevco limp on for as long as possible. Nowhere near what we will bring in from the CL.