What Stein got wrong in Lisbon

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Jock Stein didn’t get it all right in Lisbon 50 years ago. He told his players Inter’s weak point was their goalkeeper, Giuliano Sarti, who passed away within the last day, aged 83. How wrong could he be? Sarti played the game of his life, resisting Celtic for an hour, and then keeping his team in the game until the end.

Inter’s famed defensive structure was unable to adapt to Celtic’s ability to create space, but a combination of Sarti and the woodwork kept the scoring down. Twice the keeper benefited from the West German officials, once when he stretched behind to claw the ball out of the net, and once when he grabbed Willie Wallace legs inside the six-yard box.

Sarti

Sarti was Inter keeper throughout the Grande Inter period, when they twice won the European Cup and Serie A title. He earlier won the league with Fiorentina, as well as the Cup Winners’ Cup.

Great, though he was, he was no King Canute, and could do nothing about Big Tam’s tidal wave, which changed the course of football.

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  1. QUONNO on 6TH JUNE 2017 3:34 PM

     

     

     

    ‘If Findlay is to be believed, SDM was let down by his advisors.’

     

     

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    I think the point Findlay was making was that no one was let down by anyone.

     

     

    They all knew exactly what was going on at the time and they deliberately chose not to delve into it, so that they could pretend ignorance of same, if and when the shit hit the fan. Which it did.

  2. TURKEYBHOY on 6TH JUNE 2017 3:33 PM

     

     

    Natknow,

     

     

    The comments have been moved to avoid us nasty Tims seeing them,but a wee gem just for you.

     

     

    RFCRobertson

     

     

    Fiesta For Fifty Five!

     

     

     

    RFCRobertson

     

     

    Club Legend

     

     

    6,301

     

     

    6,442 posts

     

     

    Gender:Male

     

     

    Location:Salou

     

     

    Posted 2 hours ago

     

     

    Lad better get some hair dye, all the best to him

     

     

    looks an exciting prospect!

     

     

    I bet he does.1 goal in 33 reserve games.Under the heading,Welcome Dalcio.

     

     

    They get stupider by the day.

     

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    Aye – just when you think they’ve reached peak stupit they go and get stupider the next day and create a new world record :-)))

  3. DAVIDOPOULOS on 6TH JUNE 2017 3:38 PM

     

     

    NatKnow

     

     

    In the words of Starry Plough….

     

     

    We’re gonna need a bigger schadenfreude!!!

     

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    We’ve got years of this still to come…!

  4. QUONNO on 6TH JUNE 2017 3:43 PM

     

     

    Will Wee Craigie be knighted?

     

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    Arn’t they all benighted? That’s what got them where they are! :-))

  5. The appointment of Alistair Johnson is going to put Celtic and SFA in a bit of a spot.He is on public record of misrepresenting the status of the wtc liability in April 2011 which,if it allowed SFA to grant the UEFA licence,falls within the definition of fraud James Doleman reported:

     

     

    ” To be convicted of a fraud three things have to be proved; 1. You engaged in a dishonest “pretence.” 2. This had a definite purpose and 3. It caused someone to take an action they otherwise would not have.”

     

     

    Read more at:https://www.byline.com/project/72/article/1712

     

     

     

    I see RTC is already accusing Johnson of fraud in 2011

     

     

    Rangers Tax-Case‏ @rangerstaxcase · 19m19 minutes ago

     

    That Alistair Johnston has taken a seat on the newco / Sevco board is quite incredible after what we have heard in court in recent weeks.

     

     

    We know Johnston will be a regular visitor to Scotland. That should give @policescotland plenty of time to question him on 2011 UEFA fraud

     

     

    Rangers Tax-Case‏ @rangerstaxcase · 33m33 minutes ago

     

     

    Rangers FC directors of 2011 need to be questioned about- and held to account- for any criminality in this matter.

     

     

    Rangers Tax-Case‏ @rangerstaxcase · 36m36 minutes ago

     

     

    That interest was accruing on the WTC bill in Nov 2010 blows any argument of “the bill hadn’t crystalised” out of the water.

     

     

    Rangers Tax-Case‏ @rangerstaxcase · 37m37 minutes ago

     

    The most important outcome of the Whyte trial is confirmation under oath- RFC management committed fraud in applying for a 2011 UEFA licence

     

     

    This was clear to Res12 requistitioners for some time but the status of the wtc liability being made public in court makes it something Celtic will have to address in the coming weeks. If the SC find for HMRC then it widens to an integrity problem for Scottish football.

  6. Park Road 67 on

    As a certain CQN’R in Dublin would say , have they not suffered enough !!

  7. GORDON on 6TH JUNE 2017 2:33 PM

     

     

    Maybe we overcame more than the heat and the 11 men of Inter in Lisbon. We certainly triumphed where others both before and after our Lisbon victory, notably Liverpool, Derby County, Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Monchengladbach and perhaps Dundee United were the victims of, let’s call it, underhand tactics by Italian clubs.

     

     

    *and look who’s in charge of the refs just now, ably assisted by the double glazier

  8. PARK ROAD 67 on 6TH JUNE 2017 4:00 PM

     

    As a certain CQN’R in Dublin would say , have they not suffered enough !!

     

     

    As a few other CQN’RS might say. Have THEY Friar Tuck.

  9. According to BBC Scotland SFA pursuing Wee Craigie for £200,000 for bringing game into disrepute.

     

    Takes one to know one.

  10. itscalledthemalvinas on

    They can never have enough suffering.

     

    They are the devil !

     

    More suffering please !

  11. ITSCALLEDTHEMALVINAS on 6TH JUNE 2017 4:17 PM

     

    They can never have enough suffering.

     

     

    They are the devil !

     

     

    More suffering please !

     

     

    Served up with liberal portions of jelly and ice cream.

  12. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    So, with Whyte not guilty, can they stop this “Auchenhowie” nonsense….?

  13. James Doleman summary of court case.

     

     

    The only surprise was there was no surprise

     

     

     

    After 17 witnesses over 31 days at Glasgow High Court, the only surprise about the Not Guilty verdict for Craig Whyte was that it wasn’t even a surprise.

     

     

    Even before the trial began the Scottish criminal case over the takeover and subsequent administration and liquidation of Rangers Football Club PLC had shrunk from six defendants to one. The original 27-page indictment reduced to two.

     

     

    Much of this was down to a police search which seized legally privileged material, evidence subsequently thrown out by the Court of Appeal.

     

     

    By the time Whyte was called to sit alone in the dock the legal focus had narrowed to exclude everything that happened after Whyte purchased Rangers. He faced one charge of fraud, and an accusation under the Companies Act so obscure, no-one could find a record of a jury ever being asked to rule on it.

     

     

    The Crown narrative was that Whyte had engaged in a fraud to fund the transaction. He had told the previous owner David Murray he was using his own money while secretly selling future season ticket revenue to get funds. A procession of Murray Group witnesses, including David Murray himself, testified under oath they were shocked and surprised when they later found out about the season ticket deal, the court was assured they would never have sold to Whyte if they had known.

     

     

    Whyte’s formable defence counsel, Donald Findlay QC, himself a former Vice-Charmain of Rangers took, what at first, seemed an odd line of questioning. He quizzed Murray and former managers Walter Smith and Ally McCoist about the state of the club in 2011. Smith agreed huge investment was needed in the playing squad to secure Champions League qualification, £1.7m was needed for urgent “health and safety” needs at Ibrox, a tax bill of £2.8m was due and HMRC was demanding the money. Murray Group itself owed “hundreds of millions” and could put no investment in, Lloyds bank had pulled the plug and was demanding repayment and the “big tax case” liability threatened to be £70m-£100m. There were no potential investors, no potential buyers other than Eastern Europeans with gangster links or con-men with forged letters.

     

     

    All very interesting but many observers could not see what point Findlay was getting at, as one person remarked to me “If you get a house through a mortgage fraud that fact that it had dry rot isn’t much of a defence.” The QC though had a more subtle strategy in mind.

     

     

    To be convicted of a fraud three things have to be proved; 1. You engaged in a dishonest “pretence.” 2. This had a definite purpose and 3. It caused someone to take an action they otherwise would not have. In his barnstorming summing up Findlay returned again and again to the testimony that Murray would not have sold of they knew about the ticket deal. They were desperate to sell, he said, Murray had a huge incentive to get rid of the club, especially as they had a deal with the bank to recover their metals business for £1 if they could pay back the £18m debt. Findlay noted handwritten notes from Murray officials mentioning “CW met Octopus [Ticketus’ parent company] £15m. “I can’t prove that they knew but I can prove the should have known.” He told the jury. The court heard how a senior Octopus employee was asked about the deal while playing golf at Loch Lomond, Ticketus received cold calls from another Scottish club asking if they could so the same deal.

     

     

    Against the background, Findlay argued, how could anyone not have a reasonable doubt that Murray might have sold even if they knew about Ticketus? An email from senior Murray advisor, Mike McGill calling Whyte’s team: “A bunch of twits who haven’t got any funds,” did little to help the Crown case. Nor did the fact the phase “third party funding” appeared in the share purchase agreement. Another advisor to Murray, David Horne, said he had seen that, but never asked about it. Questioned on how much money was spent on doing due diligence on Whyte, Horne answered “not much” before agreeing the answer was “nothing.”

     

     

    After that, the defence decided not to present any evidence,

     

     

    The jury, sent out just after 10 am on Tuesday spent less than two hours before deciding to acquit Whyte on a majority verdict. There was no reaction in court, no shocked gasps, no cries of “no” because after those 31 days it was clear there could only be one verdict. As always after a court case questions will be asked about if it should have been brought, or should it have been presented more clearly. However, in the end, the matter was decided by 8 men and 7 women randomly selected from the Glasgow electoral roll. They have decided the case against Whyte had not been proved, and that is the only verdict that matters.

  14. On the penalty claim in Lisbon, Willie Wallace had this to say in his biography Willie Wallace: Heart of a Lion which CQN published in 2013…

     

     

    “There was one incident midway through the second half where I chased the ball to just outside the goalpost, almost on the dead ball line, beat Sarti and another Inter defender and slipped the ball between them.

     

     

    “I was just about to roll the ball into the net when Sarti grabbed both of my legs and held on to them, pulling me down.

     

     

    “To my amazement, the referee waved ‘play on’.

     

     

    ” I questioned his decision and he replied that he hadn’t had a clear view so he couldn’t give a penalty!

     

     

    “Looking at replays the game, it was a ‘dead cert’ penalty and if the referee or his linesman couldn’t have seen that, then white sticks should have been issued as part of their gear.

     

     

    “The incident was extremely disheartening – but I realised there and then that we would have to score goals that couldn’t possibly be disputed.”

  15. Margaret McGill on

    Auldheid.

     

    Read your last 2 posts with interest.

     

    So now Celtic HAVE to stick their heads above the parrot pet.

     

    Hmmmmmm

     

     

    Glasgow’s Craigie Whyte…….

  16. ernie lynch

     

     

    Was his wee spiel laced with little phrases that are the masonic equivolent of the Bat Signal?

     

    From memory he had a penchant for this…

  17. Margaret McGill on

    “It seems that hearing a recording of the cosy dinner enjoyed by Regan, Ogilvie and Whyte has put the SFA off chasing a £200,000 windfall that could go towards covering the salary of their chief executive for 10 months.”

     

     

    recording eh?

  18. Allyhuntersgloves on

    I’m in a Restuarant in Glasgow and our hero is at next table celebrating his liberty, it’s high fives all round. One guy has on s green polo with 6 on side ( I can’t see the other number yet) but I will soon…. I kid you not

  19. MARGARET MCGILL on 6TH JUNE 2017 4:44 PM

     

    “It seems that hearing a recording of the cosy dinner enjoyed by Regan, Ogilvie and Whyte has put the SFA off chasing a £200,000 windfall that could go towards covering the salary of their chief executive for 10 months.”

     

     

     

    recording eh?

     

     

    For the benefit of the more obtuse of us, do legal issues allow you to spell out the above?

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