What were Champions League lessons?

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We’ve often discussed that the difference between success and failure at Champions League level more often than comes down to which team makes mistakes.  In the group stages Celtic were 31st out of 32 teams for the amount of possession they had, and for the number of chances they created, but they were immaculately drilled and progressed while more creative teams failed.

Cluj had less possession and chances than Celtic but also know the route to effective football, finishing on 10 points and being denied qualification for the knock out stage on goal difference.

Against Juventus, home and away, things changed.  Defenders twice jumped for balls they couldn’t reach, instead of turning and standing their ground.  Twice players were dispossessed inside their own half instead of getting rid of the ball early.  These moments led to four of Juventus’ five goals and decided the tie.  By contrast, Celtic enjoyed the bulk of possession and chances, home and away, against the Italian champions.

What are the lessons have been learned in our Champions League games?

Xavi has learned not to try to control a clearance from Fraser Forster at chest height.  Spartak’s Insaurralde will know to keep his eye on the ball while clearing the ball when last man while Suchy will know not to clatter into strikers inside his own box.

No Celtic player made a single mistake inside his own half in either of the home games against Barcelona and Spartak and as a result, both games were won.

Our players’ normal mode of play, week-in-week-out, is the intercept passes, not cautiously move to a covering position.  They also hold onto the ball and take a moment before releasing, activities which don’t often lead to a goal being conceded within seconds, but Champions League football is stunningly different than the domestic variety.

The most important lesson from our Champions League campaign is that Celtic are one of the most effective teams in Europe.  We can create goals and defend successfully against the best on the Continent.  We will look back on this campaign as the one which put us back on the map, and we’ll look back on the Juventus games as an important stage in our development.

The strategy is working; same again please.

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  1. Lionroar

     

    Re giving up. If some folk hold the view the game is rigged it becomes a matter of self respect if you decide to pay to watch a competition where no matter how obvious The Rangers are given favorable decisions.

     

    In protecting them the SFA has totally undermined any sense of fairness for all other clubs.

     

    If that has been consigned to the past and the SFA can guarantee that it will not happen again then that is the very minimum supporters should be asking of their clubs.

     

    For the SFA to carry on as if nothing serious warranting investigation has taken place is an insult to the intelligence of the majority of supporters.

     

    Those who have concerns do not want to walk away, they want the clubs to do something that restores their faith in the way the game is run so that they can watch and retain their self respect at the same time.

  2. Celtic_First on

    Auldheid

     

     

    What do you think will happen next regarding rule-breaking in Scottish football and the acquiescence of the SFA?

  3. Kevjungle

     

    Supporting my view that grit is needed to form a pearl. Its the irritation that does it. :)

  4. Is it no a sign of mental health problems to think you’re the only one who knows( the prophet) and the rest us us ( the clique) are too blind to see and to deaf to hear your words of wisdom ( the message) ??

     

     

    Is there a name for having the medical condition of having your head stuck so far up Murdo’s erchie that it’s affecting your health???

     

     

    These are the questions folks…

     

     

    Off oot…

  5. Murdochbhoy, yermanfromMK on

    Good morning CQNers,

     

     

    This year’s Champions League campaign contained much that was admirable with the manager and team’s achievements far exceeding everyone’s expectations.

     

     

    However, this year we were a novelty to most, next year opposing managers will have done their homework and NL needs to formulate some new tactical options to our repertoire.

     

     

    I believe we need to reflect on the overuse of our full backs as wingers, the more tactically aware managers have identified this as a weakness in our tactics. Both Matthews and Izigurrie have been cruelly exposed in some games and I’ve often felt it was a tactical fault rather than theirs.

     

     

    The media may have concentrated on the players we’ll lose during the summer, for my part I’m looking forward to seeing Gershon, Rogic and Lustig establish themselves next season and offer NL additional tactical options.

  6. Apoligies to kilbowie kelt and petec. It just gets a bit confusing when one guy is posting under so many different names.

  7. Just had a quick flick through this week’s Celtic View,

     

    Paul Cuddihy does not seem to be aware that LNS delivered a verdict last week.

     

    There is even a diary page at the back and no mention there either.

     

     

    Shame on you,Celtic View.

     

     

    I buy for an 80 year old Celtic-daft uncle. Otherwise could easily consign to the same bin as the Record, Herald, etc……..

  8. voguepunter

     

     

    09:52 on 8 March, 2013

     

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    Nahhhh.

     

    You’ve goat awe wrang M8.

     

    I use the fact that Hugh Keevins was banned(wrongly imo) by Celtic as an

     

    illustration of how – big and Brave the Celtic hierarchy really are.

     

     

    I mean – during the SCF 2011 Celtic v Motherwell

     

    The BBC’s – Rob McLean and Pat Nevin rubbished the reputation of the Celtic

     

    supporters(customers coFergus) at ht in that game !!!

     

    What did the Celtic hierarchy do about those two ?

     

    The answer…oh we’ve sent a letter(unsigned) to the complaints commission ?!?!

     

    Aye – sure.

     

     

    So – the question is – why bring out the pea-shooter for Keevins ?

     

    Only asking

     

    HH

  9. Celtic first

     

    Unless supporters of all clubs decide to hold back on SBs as they did last year then nothing.

     

    There is a fair degree of anger at LNS but Im not sure if its enough to create a repeat of last year.

     

    However any attempt to fast stream The Rangers via reconstruction certainly will imo given the total lack of contrition and denial of wrong doing when they broke trust with their fellow clubs.

     

    There might be a way for supporters to by pass the clubs/SFA via the FIFA whistleblower site that Terry O linked to yesterday. Tsfm are looking at that avenue.

  10. Auldheid

     

    09:54 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

     

    Attack the SFA, take action, dont just mump and moan on CQN

     

     

    I will not attend grounds other than Celtic park

     

     

    The SFA is made up of all the clubs in Scotland, who voted for the personal make up the executive committees that run Scottish football, even if those clubs have ran their affairs in order in the last decade they have sat and allowed the nonsense which has transpired at the SFA to the point

  11. Oor Kev’s like the junkie who wants everyone on the bad stuff ,he wants more posters to be classed as ‘trolls’so as he doesn’t feel left oot on his own.

  12. Sorry posted to early

     

     

    far to many clubs are sitting in a perilous condition.

     

     

    The season is over for me apart from a few games at Celtic park most notably a title winning party game

     

     

    Not one hard earned penny of mine will got to supporting the status quo, those clubs which publicly call for a transformation at the SFA in terms of personnel + rulebook and who then actually follow up the talk will see my hard earned again

     

     

    I am not sure how many CQN posters have actually been on any football committees i suspect very few, Celtic have one vote, one voice at the SFA, albeit it a very powerful voice, how that lone vote is meant to change everything at the SFA is beyond my logic, i do not blame Celtic for the state of Scottish football

  13. Auldheid

     

     

    Your right.

     

    Celtic need to stand up and make it clear that there has to be a level playing field.

     

    Theres got to be big serious meetings with the SFASPL .

     

    Celtic have got to show us that they are going to be strong.

     

    Cant accept carrying on as if nothing has happened.

  14. KevJ

     

     

    I know you keep labouring this point about the banning of Flanders. But it’s never going to develop as a debate. You keep overlooking that one major point – he’s a total ….Captain Pugwash.

  15. The CL adventure is over. Now we should get back to the underhand moves to aid the rangers . The governance of scottish football has kept this outfit alive ,they will stop at nothing to elevate them back to the top tier . But that is not enough , they cannot survive without european money. Be prepared for a return of the honest mistakes , after all. So far the governance of scottish football have gone unchallenged in there defence of the rangers. So u better believe no holes will be barred until the european millions are filling the ibrox coffers , without that income all their efforts will have been in vain . This will come to pass as the rest of scottish football accept meekly scottish HQ defence of their team

     

    Hail hail

     

     

    Jimtim

  16. KevJ,

     

     

    Aye, but they all have their own distinct pugwashery.

     

     

    His is probably the most annoying, and possibly due to his snivellry he was the easiest target to use as an example. I’m perfectly comfortable with that. Sooner they’re all gone the better. But Kev, you’re not in a position to labour this argument, after admitting you still buy their chip wrappers hot off the press, and indulge their nonsense, despite knowing they talk endless sh@te to the endless detriment of one club. You need to address this point I’m making before you can ever take it further amigo.

  17. Fortunes Favour Mibbes

     

     

    Thanks for that awesome track through the nightshift, you really are a musical genius.

     

     

    I crumbled last night because this week has been heavy, heavier than ever before.

     

     

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    KevJ

     

     

    You keep giving that alternative view. I will always defend you and your right to talk jibber jabber.

  18. Kev Jungle said:

     

     

    ” Is the morras game a 3 o’clock kick off ?”

     

     

    Always looking for an argument, you are.

     

     

    JJ

  19. bamboo

     

    10:12 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

    Auldheid

     

     

    Your right.

     

    Celtic need to stand up and make it clear that there has to be a level playing field.

     

    Theres got to be big serious meetings with the SFASPL .

     

    Celtic have got to show us that they are going to be strong.

     

    Cant accept carrying on as if nothing has happened.

     

     

    Ok so PL marches into the meeting takes you with him as back up thumps the table and tells the rest there must be change, this is unacceptable etc etc…………………………………..then what

  20. Jungle Jim

     

    Kev Jungle said:

     

    ” Is the morras game a 3 o’clock kick off ?”

     

     

    Always looking for an argument, you are.

     

     

    JJ

     

     

     

    Whit did you two just call me??

  21. lionroars67

     

    10:03 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

    Auldheid

     

    09:54 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

     

    Attack the SFA, take action, dont just mump and moan on CQN

     

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    I’m the last guy who mumps and moans but I’ll excuse your ignorance.

  22. Pedro,

     

     

    KTF amigo. Those long days will be taking their toll, for sure. (It could be worse…you could be PL trying to work out what personalities to dispense on CQN to counter-act the employment of KevJs by Gerry McNee and Jim Whit a ….. :))

  23. lionroars67

     

    10:28 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

     

    It is complex but Celtic are working on it and if we actually get a result and make SFA accounatable you and others can watch games safe in the knowledge that sport is paramount thanks to the moaners.

  24. FFM

     

    I`m afraid that went over my head……unless you mean the dual personality thingy? Even then, I am still a bit lost 0:-)

     

     

    JJ

  25. Sorry if that you took that personally Auldheid it most certainly wasn’t directed at you

     

     

    It was a general point

     

     

    Fans for change is a very laudable attempt i hope it succeeds, i hope the Hibs fans certainly have success with the SFA vice president

  26. NegAnon2

     

     

    09:06 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

     

    Some decent points there.

     

     

    A bit harsh on PL. He and the board have been pretty careful and – unlike others, despite considerable encouragement – did not lead us on the very tempting path to oblivion. That’s not too bad, albeit the minimum required from a CEO and Board, though beyond others!

     

     

    Can we repeat what we achieved this season? Maybe not next season if too many want to leave, but probably the season after if we get decent money for any who leave and we stick with the method of bringing in or through the talent and nurturing it as we have done in the recent past.

  27. Fortunes Favour Mibbes @09:54 you say I “get up(sic) your tits”.

     

    I had you down as a fella, and as a t!t in the singular. So I’m not as smart as I think.

     

    In any case (or gender) I think you look forward to my posts and I think your girlish heart leaps when you see my name.

     

     

    Ntassoolla

     

    from the planet Mungovia(outer)

  28. Auldheid

     

    10:36 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

    lionroars67

     

    10:28 on

     

    8 March, 2013

     

     

    It is complex but Celtic are working on it and if we actually get a result and make SFA accounatable you and others can watch games safe in the knowledge that sport is paramount thanks to the moaners.

     

     

    There have been moaners for decades, if you believe the moaners will change the SFA fair enough

  29. Auldheid

     

    Your posts are lucid and informed. Not sure how that can be translated as ” mumping and moaning.” !

     

     

    ” It is complex but Celtic are working on it…”

     

    Are they reallY? (Genuine question.)

     

     

    JJ