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Keep an eye on what’s happening at Leeds United.  The club is under offer from ‘colourful’ Italian, Massimo Cellino, who will become owner if the Football League decide that his conviction for defrauding Italian tax authorities is not sufficient to make him an inappropriate person to control a football club.

If Cellino is declared unsuitable by authorities in England I am told to expect a coordinated media campaign to have people with similar backgrounds hounded out of the game here.  The is a dirty war underway for control of one of Scotland’s newer clubs.

Leeds have historically been a club which it’s difficult to feel sympathy for but I genuinely feel for their fans, who suffered for the lack of a director to say ‘No more money’ amid the clamour to reach ‘the next level’, whatever that was at the time.

Now they are a massive club but lose circa £15m per year, making it impossible for them to compete with clubs far smaller than them.  Being subject to the attention of convicts is a direct consequence.

On a completely unrelated matter, I read Phil Mac Giolla Bhain today use the word “Wonga” in relation to Newco Rangers’ recent attempts to finance.  That was exactly the word used to me to describe a potential financer who is set to meet the club tomorrow. The campaign to oust the club’s current owners is significantly undermining their ability to do their jobs.

Well done to Big Yogi and the Highlanders for their unconventional route to the League Cup Final.  It must have been an absolute sickener for Hearts fans to lose to nine men.  Absolute.  Utter. Sickener.  Oh well.

I read Barcelona lost on Saturday for only the fifth time when Messi had scored.  Can anyone name another occasion?

Sean’s Trust, the charity founded by the family of St John Doyle (George Ryan) in memory of Sean, who was stillborn in 2000, is holding a dinner with live entertainment on Friday, 4 July, at the Fullarton Suites, Tollcross Road.

Sean’s Trust aims to raise funds to provide holiday homes to provide respite for families bereaved through stillbirth.  The Trust will also raise awareness and tackle misinformation surrounding the issue.  To book at ticket (£35, discount for tables of eight), email Linda at lindacroker@googlemail.com
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  1. Lurking on FF to see reaction if any to Phils story, none yet but came across this about Lindsay Archibald…..always good to see when even their own get sick off them

     

     

    The ex presenter of Rangers TV has today posted the following on Facebook.

     

     

    “There are some real scumbags in Glasgow and if I could live elsewhere I would. A group of drunk Rangers fans singing sectarian songs wrecked my wing mirror last night outside my flat. Some people have no respect and need to get a life. I’m sick of the neds in Glasgow and if I could leave the city and live elsewhere I would”

     

     

     

    Mmmmmmm.

     

     

    She also goes on to assure someone who replied that it was Rangers fans, because she “grew up a Rangers supporter and is well aware of the sectarian bile that some supporters sing”

     

     

     

    Now, I don’t know Lindsey but I’m pretty sure that me being a Rangers supporter, if I was victim to this incident supposedly committed by Rangers fans, I wouldn’t broadcast it on social media where I have a substantial following thus tarring every supporter with the same brush.

     

     

    So well done Lindsey, a spectacular own goal and a huge stick for our enemies to beat us with.

  2. Snake Plissken on

    Celtic will never play in the English leagues.

     

     

    Anyone who thinks we will is selling something.

     

     

    They don’t need us, they don’t want us and they don’t consider us to be on their ‘Level’.

     

     

    Better together eh?

  3. traditionalist88 on

    hun skelper

     

     

    Exactly – also, if it wasn’t absurd enough, it was a Sunday night and we were the only ones there!

     

     

    HH

  4. Just watched the Big Fraser tribute on Celtic TV. That save last week from young Stanton was incredible. Up there with the best saves of all time.

     

     

    Congrats big man on beating the Celtic record for clean sheets. Hope you can add a few more games.

  5. hamiltontim is praying for oscar

     

    Re that game at Hampden.

     

    If it was the one I’m thinking of, the rain was battering into the uncovered Celtic end that night.

     

    It should never have been played but was live on Sky and I think it was them who pushed to get the game on.

     

    I don’t think I’ve ever been as cold at a game in all my life as I was that night.

     

    I also remember the ref, Brother McCluskey(?), denying us a stonewaller when Collins was chopped down in their box.

     

     

    ~SPF~

  6. The Horseshoe bar. Had a couple of pints in it once. An OK boozer. On the week leading up to a league decider TV crews were going round pubs in Glasgow and asking which game they would be watching. I’m sure it was Kilmarnock v Celtic and Huns v Dunfermline. For some reason they could only show the one game in pubs so they were asking the Horseshoe what game they would be showing. The Hun game was the reply so I never went back to that boozer but that was the same for most pubs they went to. I tend to stay in the Govanhill/Gorbals anyway but it was an eye opener.

  7. Snake Plissken

     

     

    15:12 on 3 February, 2014

     

     

    Personally I’d abolish the four home associations and have just one body.

     

     

    Imagine having a football authority, and officials, with no ingrained bias against Celtic!

     

     

    Wouldn’t that be wonderful?

  8. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    SPF

     

     

    I remember my mate crying as we left the stadium and when I told him why he was so upset, he replied,

     

     

    “You don’t get it, I need to go in and face them tomorrow after this. You don’t realise how lucky you are!”

     

     

    I was a student at the time and he was right.

  9. snake plissken

     

     

    totally agree

     

     

    we will never play in the top flight english league for all the reasons you state

     

     

    some sort of european league is where we will end up many years in the future

     

     

    no idea what the make up of that will be though

     

     

    i suspect we wont be playing barca or bayern every week though

  10. glendalystonsils on

    Re Leigh griffiths availability for Saturday, if there is a problem, the SFA could always invoke the ‘Sevco’ rule which allows them to disregard all existing rules.

     

    Oh, wait a minute though, that’s only for Sevco.

     

    Rules is rules after all. Except when they……..er………aren’t.

  11. leftclick We are all Neil Lennon on

    Snake Plissken

     

    That decision will be taken by Sky tv (IMHO)

     

     

    Sky”we want celtic involved”

     

     

    English FA Clubs “NO WAY!!!!!”

     

     

    Sky Cough cough well we will have to look again at our tv deal

     

     

    English FA Clubs”phone big peter L and we will talk”

     

     

    IMHO of course

  12. Snake Plissken

     

     

    15:20 on 3 February, 2014

     

     

    Wouldn’t you like it to happen though?

     

     

    Celtic being able to operate on a level playing field?

  13. Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence · 2m

     

    Discussions currently ongoing with Dens board to agree severance package with Dundee FC boss John Brown.

  14. Snake Plissken on

    leftclicktic

     

     

    Which is why I say the only people who come out with these things are selling something.

     

     

    Every year or every couple of years either Peter Lawwell or Dermot Desmond comes out and does an interview about this. Never happening but it’s roll up roll up to the circus.

     

     

    Same with politicians. They are selling something as well.

     

     

    Never happen because our friends down south don’t rate us, don’t want us and won’t accept us in my opinion.

     

     

    And that’s before you get into the type of coverage we’d get in England from their media for our identity. Imagine the Daily Mail reaction to Irish nationalism/identity from our fans.

     

     

    We’d be raked over the coals on a weekly basis. I don’t doubt that for a minute.

     

     

    Sometimes the grass is not always greener.

     

     

    In a footballing sense how long before we reached the Champions league again?

     

     

    What if we had a board like the old board in the 90’s? In England we could very well get relegated. Some big clubs down there drop down and don’t recover.

     

     

    Playing in Scotland comes with its own problems and challenges but anyone who thinks everything and every aspect of our lives would be hunky dory in England are kidding themselves.

     

     

    What about refs like that guy Geoff Winter?

     

     

    What about anti-Scottish/bias among their referees?

     

     

    Brendan Rogers moaned about a referee being from Greater Manchester of late. Don’t think things are outside the bounds of possibility.

  15. traditionalist88 on

    hoopy-do : i suspect we wont be playing barca or bayern every week though

     

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    No, sometimes it will be Real Madrid, or Juventus, one of the Milan clubs or that little boutique club from London the rich Russian is currently playing around with.

     

     

    Can’t wait!

     

     

    HH

  16. “England, you’re a monster but thanks for inviting us into your league.” Ain’t going to happen.

     

    Tom, may I wish you well.

     

    What dreadful news about Philip Seymour Hoffman. He was a magnificent actor. ‘The Savages’ is one of his lesser known movies which I cherish. Recommended to film fans.

  17. Delivery taken this afternoon of 500 miniature bottles of Scottish Leader Blended Scotch Whisky for distribution at CQTEN. Just need to ensure BRTH doesn’t hear that these have arrived or he’ll be round looking to sample the goods!

  18. BSR at 15:10

     

    Keep an eye out for ole John Brown

     

     

    Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence · 2m

     

    Discussions currently ongoing with Dens board to agree severance package with Dundee FC boss John Brown.

     

     

    One and the same. You tell by the hairstyles!

  19. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    The Spirit of Arthur Lee

     

     

     

    15:22 on 3 February, 2014

     

     

     

    Any pub that HT is barred from is ok in my book

     

     

     

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    I’m also barred from The Louden.

  20. The Moon Bhoys on

    Like most on here, I’m a fan of Neil Lennon, all in all he’s pretty much got us heading in the right direction and long may we continue along that path,

     

     

    However, wee sleekit cowerin timorous beasty McCoist, the famous shame game, at time up when all the abuse was about to be piled on to the huns,

     

     

    beaten on the pitch, knocked out of another cup, 3 players sent off , manhandling the ref etc, they were in for it big time in the MSM and maybe even the SFA,

     

     

    wee sleekit needed a master plan, how can I get us off the hook, how can I switch tall the attn on to them, instead of us ???

     

     

    must say a brilliant bit of quick thinking by wee sleekit but oh how I wish we had had a cool head on the scene at the time,

     

     

    someone to tell Neil – lookout Bud – beware and keep your cool,

     

     

    instead Neil walked straight into an unguarded trap, whatever he said, Neil should have saw it coming, smiled laughed in his face and walked away,

     

     

    what a chance missed, when you consider all the hoo ha that followed and the blame being apportioned equally, when we all know there was only one club that shamed the game,

     

     

    think Neil will have learned from that though, never expect him to be so easily conned again.

  21. Pheersy

     

     

    The woman who ran that most august of hostelry’ s was called Lily.

     

    She wouldn’t serve Catholics and she wouldn’t serve Guinness until she was assured that Guinness was owned by a Protestant family. Of course she missed the point that they employed 6000 Tims.

  22. Actually Snake, the ‘Daily Mail’ has had the opportunity to condemn Celtic supporters for years because of some anti-British sentiment. For some reason, they have chosen not to. Not sure why. I guess that they don’t care.

  23. Pheersy;

     

     

    Yep. The Winton which was run by ‘Orange Lil’. No Catholics, or even anybody wearing green in case they were Catholics, were allowed in. Flattened years ago. An event that restored my faith that there was a God at the time actually.

     

     

    Hail Hail,

     

    KevinBhoy.

  24. Snake plissken

     

     

    Ernie Lynch knows very little about anything so I wouldn’t take him seriously

  25. During the time of Souness, ‘The Daily Mail’ did though publish this headline: ‘St Patrick 0 King George 2’ or something like that. Must have been a hun there. I still have the cut out from an old ‘Celtic View’ which condemned the newspaper.

  26. pheersy

     

    15:08 on

     

    3 February, 2014

     

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC

     

     

    remember working at Fullartons 1980/81 down at Kilwining and there was a pub/hotel that refused to serve one of the guys as he had a green suit on,the fact that he was a die hard Rangers and mason,did not get him served..sure it was across from train station

     

     

    The Winton Arms, whit a place!

     

     

    I went in once to get a pint whilst waiting for a train to catch a ferry, Orange Lil asked me is I was a catholic, straight out, no other words. This was before I even asked for a drink!

     

     

    Maybe I look like one! I left without a drink, cursing the bitch with the withered hand!

     

     

    RobinBhoy

  27. leftclick We are all Neil Lennon on

    Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar

     

    When I was youger at the driver training college in Polmadie after a couple of weeks the other trainees said they were going for a drink in Bridgeton in somewhere called the Four oe sevsn staines (I dont Know :))) ,Can I come along said I aye if you keep yer moooooth shut abooooot celtic, I can remember going in and getting a pint next thing I know im coming out a “Black out” aproaching Hamilton Central station my companions were all sitting with their arms folded faces tripping them and not talking to me :)))).

     

    Never did hear what I said only “could you just not have ignored him”.

     

     

    One of the many reasons I dont drink today:))

     

    Ohhh and we were unscathed:))

  28. Bourne’s…

     

     

    (from earlier)

     

     

    Specifically, obviously!!!!

     

     

    Early heads up for you Mr B, HH

  29. ScotsPatsFan

     

    I’m sure the ref in that game was Andrew Waddell. Terry Butcher commentated that night. Even he was shocked no penalty was given for the challenge on JC.

  30. Will Gorgeous George share a platform with UKIP or the Orange Order in order to protect the Union? Could be interesting to know his stance about that.

  31. I get the feeling that the nats wouldn’t like Celtic to play in the EPL.

     

     

    Who’d have thunk it?

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