A journalist, banned by Celtic, attacked the club in the Daily Record today, suggesting the SFA chief exec Stuart Regan should have told Peter Lawwell to ‘wind his neck in’ and ‘remind him of his duty to the game’ after he wrote asking for clarification after Sunday’s game.
The hyperbole was raised to the extent the notion “Lawwell dragged our game back into a very dark place – somewhere dangerously close to disrepute” was put into hundreds of thousands of hands today.
A dark place, close to disrepute? For writing a letter asking for clarification? Sounds to me like the know the trouble Peter Lawwell is causing to the vested interests at Hampden and they want him stopped.
By remarkable coincidence, this happens to be the same journo who wrote the puff piece for SFA president, Campbell ‘What school did you go to?’ Ogilvie for writing to Uefa demanding a referee was demoted (while circumventing due process) and asking for a player to be banned.
No mention of winding a neck in or duty to the game for a vastly farther reaching letter.
The same paper gives a platform to Barry ‘EBT’ Ferguson to level wholly inaccurate accusations against Celtic:
“By questioning the reasoning behind [the failure to award a penalty]in the name of their supporters, they were nodding towards all manner of hoary old conspiracy theories.”
Conspiracy you say, Barry? Who mentioned conspiracy? An explanation that the standard of refereeing is not good enough and that having 6 officials at Hampden hindered good decision making didn’t occur to you?
Some people are quick to deny conspiracies when a far less controversial response is available.
A concerted campaign has run for days now to ensure that Celtic cannot ask questions without being demonised. When the media demonise those who question authority we are in a very dark place indeed.
This is intolerable. It would not happen in England, where the breadth of media is wide enough to escape narrow seams of authority. It doesn’t matter if it is the government, the Church, the police, big business or sport, if media collaborate with power, you have problems.
Some of it comes from people perhaps bitter that Celtic called them out and banned them, some from those unable to find perspective or consistency between writing about a Campbell Ogilvie letter and a Peter Lawwell letter. All of them are time-served opinion formers who make money from Celtic’s actions.
We are the last superpower in the game, survivors in the battle of the ages. This antagonism isn’t going away. Not until their grandchildren are in place, anyway.
Clubs need to write letters when improvement is needed. I hear estimates that income to Celtic from winning the Scottish Cup would have been in the region of £1m. Football is big business and processes and resources need to as good as they possibly can be. If they are not, the very least you can do is ask for improvement.
On Meekings appeal yesterday….
The player’s appeal was right to be upheld, the case should never have been put before the SFA panel in the first place. The referee Steven McLean saw the incident. That was not disputed. He asked his assistant for his opinion. That was not disputed either.
Meekings representatives pointed out at the hearing that officials are not allowed to re-referee a game after watching TV. This is a central tenant of the game and was accepted by the judicial panel.
Retrospective action is only allowed for incidents which referees did not see. It is not permitted for referees to reconsider an incident he saw. It is blindingly embarrassing to our game that the SFA didn’t know the rules well enough before taking this action. I hear there was incredulity at Celtic when they heard Meekings was banned in the first place.
…… and you wonder why Celtic write letters.
Last call for the Ben Nevis Huddle……..
1,190 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- 9
- 10
- ...
- 32
- »
Natknow 16:11
I agree,it is a good book,He is a prolific author.His critique of US foreign policy has been ongoing since the late 60’s,.Check out ‘Z’ magazine he writes there
—————————————————————————-
MIT
16:27.
Cheers for that :-).He is one bright cookie as they say.
ps one cant help but laugh after reading vungaard berrz for a unique appraisal o the propoganda model lol
———————————————————————
Enjoy your night Celts,
another day onto our continious history
1888-Csc
Livibhoy,
Good luck to Hearts if they can fill their ground with ST holders.
Two games against us is not going to compensate for the STs not sold to accommodate our fans.
Maybe more fans of other clubs would attend their home games in the absence of Celtic supporters
melbourne mick…
Lennybhoy gave me Brian’s number but after trying several times there is no connection.
It is the same surname, so I’m sure it’s the nutter I knew..:))
I hate Hearts!
thomthethim for Oscar OK
Agree. I understand it BUT they now have a potential powderkeg for big matches. It won;t last forever either and they will be asking us to fill their Roseburn (school) end again.
LB
Please add all and any that I have missed, or fill in some of the missing details.
Then bump it on please.
THE SCOTTISH REFEREES LIST OF SHAME
Doougiegate where a referee reverses a correct decision to award a penalty but denies this claiming that his linesman overruled him.
Dougiegate with referees strike and foreign refs recruited to officiate for 2/3 weeks.
Willie Collum applies his Scottish standard to a CL game and comes horribly unstuck (Juventus game this week.)
Craig Thomson managed to mis-referee and international within the last year and had one manager apoplectic on the touchline.
Craig Thomson(2010) was also the referee when Neil Lennon was sent off at Tynecastle after another blatant missed handball. The linesman and fourth official who drew Thomson’s attention to the mayhem that his selective blindness had produced on the touchline were Steve McLean and Graham Chambers.
Head of Referees in Scotland managed the Dougiegate news fallout but threw one of his members (the linesman who later resigned) under the bus
Head of Referees in Scotland resends an offensive email about a religious minority in Scotland, an email replete with sniggery schoolboy comment.
The same Head of Referees when he was just a lowly game official, managed to send off Paul Lambert in a game against a now dead team, because he allowed his face to be kicked by an opponent such that he required stitches.
Callum Murray allowed himself to be physically manhandled by Madjera (sp) during a match and also intimidated verbally and physically by other players of the same team. The following day he justified his failure to take action by stating that he did not feel threatened, which is all very heroic of him but the rules do not allow for any assaults on the referee as long as he doesn’t feel threatened.
Willie Collum manages to award a penalty for something he didn’t see and manages not to award a penalty for something (Maloney) that was just as blatant as the Meekings handball.
KTF
mike in toronto
14:54 on 24 April, 2015
79 Caps…. I think the answer will be that Boerrigter did not contest the charges. The question is who advised him not to contest them.
———–
Mike – if Boerrigter did dive then I wouldn’t want us to contest that.
My problem is – if the ruling is that the player cannot be punished if the referee saw the incident, then why was the CO even able to cite Boerrigter?
Presumably Meekings was cited because the incident was not in the referee’s match report, so it was presumed by him that the ref hadn’t seen it. But Boerrigter’s incident had to have been in the match report as a penalty was awarded.
Hearts of got a maximum of 12 more months of the feel good factor before they get a reality check. Then we’ll see how well things go without Celtic fans packing out a stand for them.
RWE
You just highlighted one of my favourite (least favourite) honest mistakes…
The Jorg Albertz kneeling down into Paul Lambert’s face penalty. Scandalous…
GlassTwoThirdsFull
I would cancel Derks contract and let him go. Give him a settlement. Terrible player. No heart and clearly a poor attitude. It was a dive at McDairmid and I will be glad to see the back of him.
LB
GTTF
I haven’t gone back and looked at this … but, as you say, it is a question of jurisdiction. However, unless and until one raises that, the panel would likely assume they have jurisdiciton, and act. Particularly, when it meant banning a Celtic player. Which leads to the other aspect ….
They make the rules up as they go along. We all know that. The aim for Celtic (if and when they grow a pair) is to have someone do this analysis so that the Club can nail them next time they make a decision that suits them (but is contrary to earlier precendents). People on CQN shouldn’t be doing it. But the Club doesn’t seem to be interested. The question is why not?
McLean’s biggest mistakes were the reaction to VVD and his wee hand shakes with his mates. I would put them in the public domain and let people see what Celtic and the other clubs are up against.
Tom
So sorry to read about your Mum.
Thoughts are with you and your Dad.
RWE/ Davidopolous
The Lambert red card was ridiculous. I still remember the Little Genital bouncing up and down on the Ibrox touchline demanding a red card as Paul Lambert was receiving medical attention for smashed teeth and a broken jaw.
Horrible little man, that Advocaat. The referee that day? A certain Kenny Clark who just happened to be conveniently standing outside Hampden on Monday awaiting the BBC cameras and an opportunity to slaughter Celtic again.
Livibhoy
Agreed – he has been a waste of money and if it was a dive (which it appeared to be) then I wouldn’t want us to contest that and be seen to be soft on cheating.
However, while he is playing in Scottish football he is entitled to play to the same set of rules as everyone else.
What do you call that colour Hearts wear again. It’s not burgundy what is it?
Mike in Toronto
Good question!
“and let people see what Celtic and the other clubs are up against.”
Raymac,
I’m not arguing but 99.99% of opposition fans think they get the shitty end of the stick when it comes to officiating in games v us.
HH
davidopoulos
16:56 on 24 April, 2015
RWE
You just highlighted one of my favourite (least favourite) honest mistakes…
The Jorg Albertz kneeling down into Paul Lambert’s face penalty. Scandalous…
I remember lamberts teeth flying out and advocatt screaming for a penalty
HH
herbo
?
maroon
aye ok
sharp
thunder road
Noooooooo!
taxi!
Large lager for me mate cheers. :-)
Geordie, that’s because they read the daily rags or listen to the Scottish radio stations.
LiviBhoy
Boerrigter was fouled in the penalty box and his fall was slightly delayed.
I had a clear view seated in the front rows right beside the incident. I would put it in the “not proven” catagory. Completly agree about his attitude and uslessness.
As I sit in the lounge in San Diego Airport, I’ll take Ard Machas post one step further.
A hun monkey journalist in a suit, is a hun monkey no less.
And to that hun monkey journalist in a suit, I’d say: your cheating cabal’s secretive society team is Deid, deceased and extinct.
Still stunned over handball gate.
Boeriggter looked fit enough in Princes Square last week………not as fit as his bird though……
#supermodel
Lamberts red card v Rangers was so ridiculous it didn’t even happen :)
the_huddle
14:35 on
24 April, 2015
!!Bada Bing!!
14:30 on 24 April, 2015
The SFA under hure pressure can help exonorate (sp) McLean and Muir.What did Muir say to McLean during the incident? If it was ‘no penalty’,’hit his face’ etc ,let’s hear the tape.Very simple,unless there is something to hide of course….
————-
I don’t beileve the officials mics are recorded, that’s what I was told by a ref, they are just a communication device during the match and not used to review things after the fact.
Sometimes they don’t even work properly, with interference etc.
———-
Whit?
a) The mikes
b) The manky refs
c) SFA justice
you can choose more than 1 option!
HH jamesgang
herbo
The urge to be of any use or to open my stoopid gob can be tooo strong at times and the post button was hit as i realised what was goin down :)
thunder road
Guinness for me, Cheers!
HH!!
dougie dougie
Geordie Munro
17:17 on
24 April, 2015
Lamberts red card v Rangers was so ridiculous it didn’t even happen :)
————————————————–
Revisionist!
Thunder Road
A wee bitta lightheartedness is always good.
:-)
Get is a hauf anaw
Davidopolous,
A charge never leveled at me during my exam time :)
Geordie Munro,
They might well do but it would be instructive to list the likes of the “honest mistakes” we have been on the end of in recent seasons in Cup competitions e.g against Hearts and Kilmarnock to name but 2. The last one I can remember that went in our favour was the throw in from which Joe Miller scored against the deid team. Maybe you could list a few in Cup competitions that have given us an advantage against other teams.
Thunder Road
Guinness for this Tim! :-)