Back in 1994, when our day of greatest need arrived, Celtic fans had already invested years in developing a recovery strategy in case the club faced extinction. A disparate group of “rebels” filtered out good ideas from bad, established a platform for recovery and ensured that when the hour came, one man was ready and able to walk into a branch of Bank of Scotland and deposit a large sum of money into Celtic’s account, while others rallied support and prepared for the recovery.
Those rebels eventually went their own ways as many of those who stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Fergus McCann found allies in conflict didn’t make for friends in peacetime, but the rebels were united long enough to Save our Celts. Without their preparation, Celtic would have quickly gone into administration and who knows where thereafter.
Compare and contrast with Rangers in their hour of need. There is no preparation, no consensus of the willing, not even an acceptance that this is, in fact, an hour of need.
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Paul67 – Do you think Mr Whyte is starting to taste the fruits of his media policy that was purely to curry favour with the less cerebral amongst their support?
Banning the media over stories that are correct will just embolden them to prove you wrong….
lucky number 7 (12:05), before the penny can drop you have to have a penny… they don’t have any, so I suspect it never will.
The five stages of grief ,denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance . Most of the orcs are still in denial,some are angry and if Grant fae Perth is any sort of gauge ( I know he was probably a tim ) some are depressed. I do not want acceptance until they are over the edge,live long and suffer.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:23
‘Perhaps even sharing a proportion of league gate money to help other clubs recover from any monies they would lose from missing out on home games v RFC.’
No, we couldn’t do that.
What we could do is agree a more equal share of any TV money.
Celtic will take a financial hit here, at least in the short term, but the alternative is that we sell our soul.
How come my busiest ever day at work just had to coincide with today of all four king billy days.
Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
MWD
Neil Lennon Abbot of Clonmacnois says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:28
If the answer to any of those years, particularly the 2003 one, then a massive roll-on windfall was given to them from such cheating. The other years then become moot, in that a vastly greater amount of cheating would have been required to make up the additional funds thereafter accrued.
The sky deal deal is not worth enough to justify scrapping football integrity for their sake. what if sky was told to gtf and celtic was able to set up its own deal with sky or have its own broadcast rights….?
SSN – Paul Lambert “Nobody Leaving Norwich” cuts to Ibrox “Grant Holt Top Target”.
Good job.
BigChipsUK
Thats where the flaw in my plan was, knew I had a glaring error but couldnae see the woods for the trees
Just like the darkside hoardes :0}
Shameless repost from the last article. Still catching up,and I’ve not even been on RTC-fickle,I know-yet!
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dirtymac says:
31 January, 2012 at 11:28
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:
31 January, 2012 at 11:19
07/08 too.
They brought in the likes of Cullar, McCulloch, Whittaker, Cousin, Naebalance, etc for about £11m.
In fact, from 07/08 to 08/09 they spent about £29m
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Sorry,mate.
I always tend to lump them in together as I was too busy laughing at the Kaunas result to check the calendar.
The fact that they had the last laugh by winning the league-who’d have guessed three international strikers couldnae hit their own arse (and it took some going to miss a few of those bum cheeks) could be foreseen by no-one.
Two seasons of the worst MIBbery EVER followed.
They got lucky. They had the establishment on their side at a level we had NEVER seen before.
Otherwise they’d have been f’d before now.
I still think that a massive fraud was perpetrated by one publicly-listed company against another,and the FSA should be looking at this very seriously indeed.
They made roughly £40m,and we lost the same.
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So only about 100 posts to go…..
dirtymac
agreed.
Paul67, Ernie – as well as us all enjoying the fact that they are in such a mess – and I’m loving it, surely all surviving clubs in Scotland must seize this opportunity of a fresh start for Scottish Football. It is their duty to their Clubs. Above all factors, including cold hard cash, must come sporting integrity. Without it the game is finished as the competition is pointless.
What an opportunity for the beleaguered and shambolic SFA, riddled as I believe it to be with corruption, to, for once, do the right thing. What an opportunity to put the sport ahead of anything else. What an opportunity for the custodians of Brother Walfrid’s Legacy to take a stand and do the right thing. I trust them to do this. Some on here and beyond will not but I do.
If sporting integrity is the non-negotiable starting point then we have nothing to fear. We must take this stance and be prepared to go as far as it takes to defend it, as it is for the common good. If the powers that be think and act otherwise then Scottish Football is over. Dead. Deceased.
Paul – we owe a lot to guys like Mouldy67 for standing up to the fans who wanted to continue the support of the old board, as they were the “Custodians” of the club.
Now, what’s te latest hilarious news from Mordor?!
T4
A Newco is coming .
When ?
Where will it go ?
Italian rumor mongers have Celtic still trying to sign Molina .
Same people have Tevez going to Barca .
RogueLeader says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:32
What better way though to have fans rubbishing the DR story. “It cannae be true, if we’re in for two players”.
So what if King & Murray take over. Whyte has flogged 4 years worth of ticket money and pocketed it.
If it smells like rangers, looks like rangers and plays at ibrox, It is rangers! and the Creditors will want their money.
HH
Paul67,
Celtic will have to be a key player in the aftermath of their Event.
There doesn’t appear to be a single MSM voice saying other than it is inconceivable for them not to be readmitted to the SPL.
If, I hope, we still advocate integrity, then we have to have a strategy and a bottom line.
After Extensiongate, we cannot backslide on the integrity stance.
It will be a genuine dilemma for us and, no matter how little compromise the club feels that it has to accept, their will be a divide in our own support.
As powerful as the new media is, the MSM still have the megaphones.
I fully understand that now is not the time for the club to make public statements and I believe that there have been hours spent in the boardroom considering their response.
I just hope that there is a large portrait of Bob Kelly overlooking their deliberations.
MWD
If you’re busy at work, who the heck is doing the Pines/Rosshall shift??
top 100???
I can’t keep up!!!!!
Rieperman says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:24
I would like to apologise to you about being such a c*** last week.
Hail Hail
STV standing by Whyte by the looks of it. It is Civil War in Poundland…
Future season ticket money is being used to fund Rangers in a deal with a London-based finance company.
The deal struck with Ticketus provides Rangers with cash now in exchange for future ticket revenue.
Ticketus, which is part of Octopus Investments, has had deals in place with English football sides, including Plymouth Argyle, Hull City and Watford.
The arrangement, which is understood to pre-date Craig Whyte’s May 2010 takeover of the current SPL champions, is thought to involve four years’ season ticket money up until 2014/15.
On Tuesday, the Daily Record reported that the scheme had provided Rangers with £24.4m.
Sources within the club have claimed that only a proportion of season tickets are involved and the money is used for “working capital”.
The Ibrox side are awaiting the result of their appeal against a disputed £49m tax bill from HM Revenue and Customs.
Earlier this month the final evidence sessions in the First Tier Tax Tribunal were heard in Edinburgh, with a result expected at some point in the next month or so.
PAUL67
That’s a stunning summation!
Almost every Rangers fan I know-and they are legion,haha-has their head in the sand.
The few others have their head in their hands.
Some can see no way out and no future,others can see no problem.
James
There seems no way out now if we are to believe what Paul Murray gave to the Daily Record today.
Rangers right now are reliant on selling players this afternoon to be able to fulfill their coming fixtures.
If Paul Murray was indeed shown Wavetower’s/Whyte’s Collyer Bristow client account then it appears as though HMRC’s investigation into Rangers supercedes the professional duty of confidentiality under which all solicitors operate.
You can do a little google to generate some further copy on that.
We haven’t even looked at the outcome of the Big Tax Case.
We haven’t considered the Governance role of the SFA over the years.
Events are overtaking our ability to absorb and analyse the available information.
It’s chaos.
TBB
Paul67 says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:15
Sneddoni, what a good idea.
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Thanks Paul!
I really didnt spend that much time thinking about it either, figured it was probably pie in the sky, and not very likely at all.
Perhaps if I put a wee plastic model together, invited some people to come see it, and dished out some tasty nibbles, perhaps say, succulent lamb with a fine red, I might be able to convince people it was a really good and viable idea. Maybe keep them distracted long enough for me to come up with a real plan even………
Nah, people would have to be really daft for that I think.
Wouldn’t they??
ASonOfDan, indeed.
ernie lynch, don’t ask me. For the avoidance of doubt, I would not back any plan to liquidate Celtic, as some have called for, if Rangers were allowed back in (of course).
Summa, fortunately, those troubled times are behind us.
RogueLeader, he sure is.
What was the “breaking news” on SSN regarding Rangers?
HH
Giggs
Is it just me……………………………………………………………….
or is Nikica Jelavic, having the LONGEST medical……………………………………..EVER
BigJoejustWondering
Glasgow University Media Group just finished analysis of DR article..
Apparently translated as…
“Bless me Readers, I have sinned. This is my first confession…”
More details to follow follow…..
whyte’s PR cronies evidently working overtime with that SSN report!! must have a lot of fires to put out at the moment ;)
Scottish football currently operates at a Trumpton League level.
Is it going to really deteriorate if the Horribles get swallowed up by their ‘Insolvency Event’?
What happens in the playground when the Bully is eventually expelled?
Everyone thrives in a healthier atmosphere.
So what was the breaking news on SSN?
ernie lynch says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:30
The reason I threw the suggestion of sharing a proportion of the gate receipts into the discussion was to ensure that the other clubs would be competitive. It might stimulate interest, improve gates and ensure a competitive league as opposed to us strolling the league by a boring 25-30 points each season. Lack of competition would not help us when we play in Europe. This was commonly put forward by Rangers as a reason for them not doing well in Europe during their NIAR years. In their case4 I would also blame a lack of tactical nous from their management but it didn’t help that Celtic or any other clubs did not present them with any challenge.
James Forrest
Perfect Storm…..indeed, my description,
and waited for many many years,
is that the DR arcticle is very much the “hosepipe in their mouth”
moment.
I’ll drink to that
greenjedi says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:40
Talk on the Jelavic deal, also that Rangers were interested in Grant Holt. Nothing really.
Is it just me who’s confused…
6M for jellylegs..
5M for Zamora..
Are Everton daft?
Giggsybhoy
At 12 37
Nothing we never knew mate holt a target to replace jellylegs a cameroonian trialist and somebody fae rapid a target zzzzzzzzz !!!!!
Awe Naw,
Accepted with a thank you. I respect anyone has the courage to apologise.
For my part, I am sorry If I offended you.
HH
Bfreaking News was Everton have finally confirmed a Fee has been agreed with rangers.