Back in 1994, when our day of greatest need arrived, Celtic fans had already invested years in developing a recovery strategy in case the club faced extinction. A disparate group of “rebels” filtered out good ideas from bad, established a platform for recovery and ensured that when the hour came, one man was ready and able to walk into a branch of Bank of Scotland and deposit a large sum of money into Celtic’s account, while others rallied support and prepared for the recovery.
Those rebels eventually went their own ways as many of those who stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Fergus McCann found allies in conflict didn’t make for friends in peacetime, but the rebels were united long enough to Save our Celts. Without their preparation, Celtic would have quickly gone into administration and who knows where thereafter.
Compare and contrast with Rangers in their hour of need. There is no preparation, no consensus of the willing, not even an acceptance that this is, in fact, an hour of need.
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On another note and getting back to football related matters…Salihi and Uchebo were not the trialists on show, contrary to what is out there, including from myself.
I have no idea of who they were but they were not Salihi or Uchebo…
Do we need to sign anybody else anyway…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
I’m setting up a beer tent on Edminston Dr the morra.
Deck chairs welcome.
Lennybhoy
Larsson and Sutton?
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:29
I believe that once Murray started his reckless spending spree (leading to where the Orcs are today) it ruined not only our national team, but also our national game.
No Rangers means that teams would actually be vying for second place, a shot at the CL. They would have more games = more tickets/merchandise sold, greater exposure, playing against the worlds best teams.
Murray & them ruined our game trying to win the big cup, getting rid of them would make it a more competitive,healthier league.
thomthethim at 13:37
It’s a dangerous game, is all I can say …
FF
Boyd for Portland timbers,how apt for that lump of wood.
Can anyone with an account on Folly Folly PLEASE post the following link on it?
It may well be enough to have them “Jumping oot their windaes!”
http://www.skybet.com/cms/breaking-transfer-news.shtm?name=Nikica+Jelavic
Hail Hail
Gogo
Looks like rumours of Paddy McCourt’s departure are just that. STV has learned he is staying at Celtic. bit.ly/wHnqhz
Retweeted by Fritz A. Grandold
SP
If the googly eyed one is embroiled in criminal investigations with the tax authorities, does this potentially stop him divesting the assets of Rangers until any case is concluded?
Does HMRC have the ability to trump any secured creditor should recovery against a criminal, as opposed to civil, claim be made?
Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye Ready
HH
TLK
davythelotion says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:38
Brilliant :-)
Anyone in the Manchester area avoid the M60 near Eccles. Lorry has gone over and spilled its load of animal feed. All lanes are blocked.
Surrounding roads ate blocked with knuckledragging Orcs heading for free food.
It sounds like a trap set by Manchester Police to flush out the few hundred Huns still in hiding after UEFA Cup Final. Or even Chelsea fans.
Rumour in Wigan is heid back for 2.5 million. (skysports website)
Smashingmilkbottles
Am on the first flight to Glasgow tomorrow morn, keep me a deck chair! :)
Hail Hail
Roccobhoy
VP
He’s a plank!
Lennybhoy
Caolan Lavery was one
starry
so it is, cheers!
And thanks for the scan, Mort
Gogo says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:41
Ahahaha, genius.
Funniest day on CQN. Ever.
When the rebels manned the barricadesWhen the rebels manned the barricades
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Back in 1994, when our day of greatest need arrived, Celtic fans had already invested years in developing a recovery strategy in case the club faced extinction. A disparate group of “rebels” filtered out good ideas from bad, established a platform for recovery and ensured that when the hour came, one man was ready and able to walk into a branch of Bank of Scotland and deposit a large sum of money into Celtic’s account, while others rallied support and prepared for the recovery.
Those rebels eventually went their own ways as many of those who stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Fergus McCann found allies in conflict didn’t make for friends in peacetime, but the rebels were united long enough to Save our Celts. Without their preparation, Celtic would have quickly gone into administration and who knows where thereafter.
Compare and contrast with Rangers in their hour of need. There is no preparation, no consensus of the willing, not even an acceptance that this is, in fact, an hour of need.
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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:27
Dickie Davies Eyes says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:54
Bigger football stories today according to the BBC….
1. Boyd agrees contract at Portland
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You have to feel sorry for Boydichenko.
Not only did he think he was off to Poundland,but Portland Timbers wear The Hoops………….
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RATM – A BAMPOT! says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:28
starry plough says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:22
http://scottishtshirts.spreadshirt.co.uk/bampot-A13183818
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TheBarcaMole says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:28
Dontbrattbakkinanger says:
31 January, 2012 at 12:38
Scottish football currently operates at a Trumpton League level.
Is it going to really deteriorate if the Horribles get swallowed up by their ‘Insolvency Event’?
What happens in the playground when the Bully is eventually expelled?
Everyone thrives in a healthier atmosphere……………..
Great analogy………………….but what if/when the Bully’s Da is the Heedie??????
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
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St Martin’s Bhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:28
James Forrest – it would be wonderful to see ‘arry and Poundland get “done” within days of one another. What a perfect job for Redknapp once he’s been relased, manager of Newco Poundland in League 3!
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South Of Tunis says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:29
Quintessentially British FC have been using vulture asset buying GARC Ltd as a a source of cash.
Check out Sony Jumbotron on Ebay.
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TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:29
Paul
Not trying to be confrontational in any way but I would appreciate your view on the matter. I have suggested a proportional sharing of gate money as an inducement to the other clubs to ensure Newco don’t walk straight in to SPL. Media are all suggesting that they will be voted in. You have stated your opposition to gate sharing.
Do you think Newco are likely to be voted in? Do you see us having to negotiate with other clubs to ensure they are not allowed back in? If so what other inducements can we offer the others? Do you see a bright future for the SPL without Newco? Do you think it will be a competitive league or even less competitive than it is at the moment?
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starry plough says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:30
RATM – A BAMPOT! says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:28
Could be good with Internet Bampot!!!
LMAO
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SmashingMilkBottles says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:30
Amadeus
Please expand. Cops at Ibrox the morra?
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SmashingMilkBottles says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:31
If so then tell P McG to get his pal the photie taker err there pronto…
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BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:32
HUGO Z HACKENBUSH 1306
The thought of looking at the collective arses of my mates would wipe the smile off yer coupon PDQ!
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No.7 says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:32
Just been chatting to some of the darkside in work. The DR story is just scaremongering.
I had to contain a laugh as i asked who they would be supporting come March :-)
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Folly Folly says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:32
I can’t believe we’re not spending more time discussing the other big story of the day: the shameless hogging of international right backs at Celtic Park.
The recent Celtic Underground podcast (q.v.) has pointed out that we now have Sweden’s right-back, Wales’ right-back, Korea’s right-back, Mexico’s right-back, plus Scotland’s right-back!
What the heck is going on … ?
FF
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roccobhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:33
Smashingmilkbottles, get back to work, stop posting on CQN. :)
Hail Hail
Roccobhoy
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Malarkey says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
..if Grant Holt was available for less than Jelavic (unlikely) then why wouldn’t Everton just buy him instead?
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Dickie Davies Eyes says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:27
You have to feel sorry for Boydichenko.
Not only did he think he was off to Poundland,but Portland Timbers wear The Hoops………….
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I wouldn’t go as far as “have to” feel sorry for him. “Could” might be better but i will stick with “won’t” and “don’t”
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hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
It’s days like this that make me wish that I worked with the unwashed rather than the ignorant.
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Spearman says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
ernie lynch says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:12
If I’m getting you right. Your scenario would give the SFA the choice of a league without Celtic and no Sky deal … or a league without Rangers and no Sky deal… my thought is that the SFA/SPL or whoever you were offering the deal to in Scotland would pick a league with the establishment team in it. Easy to come out with this is what I would do but if we aint in any league and no-one to play football against… we would go bust??? How ironic would that be… They in their worst nightmare end up playing in a league they will win every year and we go bust? As for “How would UEFA react in that situation?”. How could you possibly know? Are you are suggesting the board should gamble our club on the hope that UEFA would push another league into taking us in?
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oglach says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
Can someone please administer the coup de grace to Rankers. I am reminded of the old adage of beware a wounded animal (or the plural in this instance). Someone needs to shoot the beast in the head now – it is criminal to watch an animal suffer so.
PS I’ll do it?
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Malarkey says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:35
Folly Folly
Well Wilson is going out on loan …and I don’t think we really want Mexicos left back. So that just leaves 3.
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twists n turns says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:35
I’m fed up with people having “scoops”, and “contacts”.
Well – I have the biggest of them all. I KNOW who Declan is.
Sorry tho’, I cannot reveal who he is. Like Kendo Nagasaki, he will not be unmasked, not even by Jackie Pallo or Mick McManus.
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Malarkey says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:36
Mexico right-back I mean
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Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:36
SmashingMilkBottles says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:30
Why wait until tomorrow, if they are going to go for it, go for it today, why put off what you can do today…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
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James Forrest is Lennon says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:36
Lies there a football club so dead
Who’s corpse to all the world has said,
Let tax fraud vanish from this land.
Whose heart within with hatred burned,
Who’s grim supporters never learned
And let wee Whytey take command!
If such is your club, mark it well;
For them no minstrel raptures swell;
High though their titles, proud their name,
Boundless ego as wish can claim
Despite those titles, size, and pelf,
The club, concentred all in self,
Was forced to forfeit all renown,
And, doubly dying, has gone down
To the vile dust from whence it sprung,
Unwept, unhonoured , and unsung.
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SmashingMilkBottles says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:36
Roccobhoy
Ditto.
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David Prowse says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:37
Off topic!
Mandaric calls Crouch – Useless! Class, then says to ‘arry Redknapp if thats the kind of crap you’re going to be buying you are going to be giving me money!! :D
Crouch is entirely made of golf clubs i heard!
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thomthethim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:37
Folly Folly says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:32
Pretty obvious, I would have thought.
We are creating a worldwide shortage of right backs, then, when the time is right, we can name our price to a desperate market.
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Randy Marsh says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:38
Waiting now on the poor ally, how can he continue under these terrible conditions articles in the coming weeks. Written by the same folk that churned out the “no angel” and “brings it on himself” nonsense when Neil Lennon was on the receiving end of bombs, bullets and death threats. The fat quiz show captain doesn’t know what difficult working conditions are hope he stays with his sinking ship until they’re dead and buried
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davythelotion says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:38
I don’t have a mate at the record, Everton, HMRC or a sheriff’s officer. I do have a china who was on canteen duty at Murray park when Minty called for lunch with Ally. This is what he heard
Ally: two pakoras, chicken wings, portion of samosas and some popadums wi’ spicy onions. David are you having a starter?
Minty: No, I’ll just have the fish & chips
Ally: so what brings you down here Davy?
Minty: The quack was examining ma chookie Argylls, they’ve no been right since that interview wi’ big Traynor. But whilst I’m here I want to give you the heads-up about Elmer Fud.
Ally: what about him? He’s dead busy, his ‘phones always off cos he’s in meetings wi’ people talking about money.
Minty: that’s the point Alistair! He’s borrasic!, potless, I’m still waiting for ma pound!
Ally: naaw, he’s loaded, he’s got so much money that ah have to buy the dinner when we meet cos he’s only got hvnner pound notes!
Minty: listen Ally. Get out now ! It’s the only way you’ll keep that blazer you got from High & Mighty! The only person Harpo Marx will be talking to is Tommy Sheridan about what to do at a warrant sale!
Brown (to minty): are you here fur a trial?
Minty: jeeesuus! I’m off!! Ally, you ain’t seen me!
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Lennybhoy…Supporting Neil Lennon and CFC until I die says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:38
On another note and getting back to football related matters…Salihi and Uchebo were not the trialists on show, contrary to what is out there, including from myself.
I have no idea of who they were but they were not Salihi or Uchebo…
Do we need to sign anybody else anyway…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
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SmashingMilkBottles says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:39
I’m setting up a beer tent on Edminston Dr the morra.
Deck chairs welcome.
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hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:40
Lennybhoy
Larsson and Sutton?
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HazeyJamie says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:40
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:29
I believe that once Murray started his reckless spending spree (leading to where the Orcs are today) it ruined not only our national team, but also our national game.
No Rangers means that teams would actually be vying for second place, a shot at the CL. They would have more games = more tickets/merchandise sold, greater exposure, playing against the worlds best teams.
Murray & them ruined our game trying to win the big cup, getting rid of them would make it a more competitive,healthier league.
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Folly Folly says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:41
thomthethim at 13:37
It’s a dangerous game, is all I can say …
FF
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voguepunter says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:41
Boyd for Portland timbers,how apt for that lump of wood.
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Gogo says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:41
Can anyone with an account on Folly Folly PLEASE post the following link on it?
It may well be enough to have them “Jumping oot their windaes!”
http://www.skybet.com/cms/breaking-transfer-news.shtm?name=Nikica+Jelavic
Hail Hail
Gogo
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starry plough says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:42
Looks like rumours of Paddy McCourt’s departure are just that. STV has learned he is staying at Celtic. bit.ly/wHnqhz
Retweeted by Fritz A. Grandold
SP
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The Lizard King says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:42
If the googly eyed one is embroiled in criminal investigations with the tax authorities, does this potentially stop him divesting the assets of Rangers until any case is concluded?
Does HMRC have the ability to trump any secured creditor should recovery against a criminal, as opposed to civil, claim be made?
Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye Ready
HH
TLK
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dirtymac says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:42
davythelotion says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:38
Brilliant :-)
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googybhoy ♥ Celtic and Integrity says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:42
Anyone in the Manchester area avoid the M60 near Eccles. Lorry has gone over and spilled its load of animal feed. All lanes are blocked.
Surrounding roads ate blocked with knuckledragging Orcs heading for free food.
It sounds like a trap set by Manchester Police to flush out the few hundred Huns still in hiding after UEFA Cup Final. Or even Chelsea fans.
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garygillespieshamstring says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:42
Rumour in Wigan is heid back for 2.5 million. (skysports website)
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BETTER NOT BE.
Gogo
That’s a work of art … !
(If only I was still able to log on to that eponymous site …)
FF
Oh,blinkin’ flip.
That HEID rumour p’d me off so much,I cocked up the c&p.
Apologies to one and all,as usual.
Paul
Don’t really think you are comparing like with like. The sack the board demos were on the back of a number of seasons of decline. A trophy had hardly been threatened in a number of seasons since the centenary season. Apathy had set in, and crowds had significantly declined.
They are on the back of 3 IAR. The average football fan does not care a jot about what happens off the park. If they lose a few more games then you will see demos down ibrox way.
Thats all that matters to the average rangers supporter. Sad really ;-)
hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:40
Wouldn’t get a game…:)
kikinthenakas says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:44
Cheers mate…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
ernie lynch, be in no doubt, Rangers have more sympathisers among other clubs in the SPL than we do, so if it was a choice, they would choose Rangers, but they are still not liked. The others will only vote Rangers in if they have no choice due to pressure from Bank of Scotland. Celtic threatening to go out of business would be seen as an empty gesture that would have to be rejected, leaving Celtic asking for their resignation back or out of business. It’s Rangers we should be keen on going out of business, not putting ourselves out.
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy, the league would be poorer and less competitive. We would be comparatively stronger but weaker overall. Deals done with the SPL on future income share is not the key point, it’s who is going to maintain their overdrafts. The Bank of Scotland will either force votes in favour or Rangers will not get the support of the clubs.
Crazy measures against Celtic suggested by some (good grief!) miss the target, we need to ensure other clubs are free from interference. If they are, they will vote Rangers out.
A newco RFC cannot be allowed back into the SPL under any circumstances other than by promotion through the three lower divisions. However, Celtic cannot resign from the SPL without another League to go to. It would be an insane strategy. We must persuade the requisit number of clubs to vote with us to ensure Newco are excluded. This amy require inducements/concessions from us.
No wonder they could not have audited accounts with a £5 Million VAT bill being investigated…
Grant Holt has just proved himself to be an effective batter-ram centre forward in the EPL(best league in the universe) .
Why would he ever turn his back on that for the SPL and in particular for a dying h** fc?
Paul
Thanks for your input. I hadn’t considered the need to maintain our overdraft but I think there will be a lot of infighting between Celtic and remaining clubs. It’s a pity John Reid has gone. He would be experienced in political wheeling and dealing.
Spearman says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:34
1. It’s the SPL, nothing to do with the SFA. The SPL comprises the clubs who are members of the SPL. No hierarchy, no timeservers, no backwoodsmen. Businesses for whom it’s all about the money. Their choice would be no Sky deal and a newco huns, or no Sky deal and us. Financially they’d be better off with us. Any other decision and the league would be a joke.
2. If a newco huns are allowed straight into the SPL, the games a bogey. Celtic have lost. There’s no integrity left. Celtic are dead and are no more than one half of a money making venture called the old firm. And they can stop it if they are determined to. If it happens it’s because the Celtic board want it to happen, whatever their public protestations.
hamiltontim says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:43
That was almost funny:O) you in the I.T.department today?
Lambert ” No players leaving”
SSN reporter now saying “Holt unlikely”
The rumbling debate by some over what it would be like without them led me to this conclusion:
Disagree with some, we don’t need them, and never will, any supporter who stays away because there is no huns isn’t really a ‘supporter’ are they.
They were an irrelevance in Scottish football for almost a decade till they bought the title in 1987, there crowds dwindled away to that of Aberdeen today, Dun Utd and Aberdeen were the teams to beat at home and in Europe Utd only being denied a second Euro final by the cheats of Roma and a corrupt referee.
We with pure fight, passion and team full of winners won the title in 88, but from then on they outspent most of Britain for a few years and were out of sight due to overspending, at the time we clung on with support dwindling year by year and fans losing faith as our dirty neighbours disappeared out of sight with Mordor packed to the rafters every week, but realistically no one was getting close to them and with us Aberdeen and Utd starting to follow on the trend of bringing in foreigners the fight against them was more or less pointless, they were operating on a different level and the difference in quality of personnel was staggering.
As the press here in Scotland were in awe of all things Souness/Murray/Smith and the huns were competing at the highest stage in Euro football the harsh reality was that the game in the country had started dying a slow death, shout me down but I blame the huns, pure and simple by the flick of a switch they turned our game on it’s head and they lorded and revelled in every minute of their glory and dominance over us. Us finally restoring some faith back in the support by stopping TIAR only prompted the loathing and greed even more from them and their support by proclaiming Wattie ‘over the hill’ and to follow suit and Timmy by bringing in a foreign coach, and so the extravagant and unwarranted spending started again, the huns were in a bubble, a self righteous one at that, their dominance had been thwarted and they replied with the only weapon they had – money, or was it. Our victory in keeping our league title record alive not only bolstered our support and re filled Celtic Park but it sent a message to a generation of huns who had never known a Celtic who could compete with them, sure they went on and Dick delivered their treble celebrated with in true orange style (Dutch offcourse) and all was sweet over Govan way once more. Murray behind the scenes by now must have seen the start of the cracks and no-one would have stopped for a second (press included) to question the spending and salary’s being dished out, and dished out for one reason to fend us off, and fend us off they did but again it was bad practice as most of the big earners were nearing the end of their careers and were tempted by the big bucks, Murray in the beady of the hun could do no wrong, once again the tenners were being spent against our fivers and he bankrolled more success. There is a pattern emerging.
The huns out bought and outspent us and the rest of Scottish Football for the best part of a decade, without our second coming and share issue we would probably be no more relevant to them now than Utd or Aberdeen. Now that the walls of power have came tumbling down and he who once reigned high is hiding out in a cave the ghosts of the past have came back to haunt them and those who took the lamb and lorded over the supremacy are no where to be seen, the game is a bogey, the truth is now out, the huns are cheats, cheats now and more importantly cheats back then through the years of dominance.
People love to remind us back to the days of the early-mid eighties when we had two almost all Scots sides in Euro Finals, our game was up there with the rest on the big stage and on the International front Scotland were at World Cups in Spain 82 and Mexico 86 all of which was done while Mordor was empty and the huns were an irrelevance. We never needed them then, and we certainly could have been doing without them and Murray from 87 onwards, one day our game in this country might recover, wonder what could have been achieved had the growth and youth not been strangled by clubs having to overspend trying to keep up with the cheating and corrupt huns.
I will not shed a single tear if they go under, on the other hand if they survive or establish a NEWCO it will be interesting to see how they cope on a level playing field, something a generation of them have never experienced.
You reap what you sow
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:47
If things are as bad as they seem or reported, will there be anything left to resurrect…
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Paul67 says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:46
Bob Kelly threatened to liquidate Celtic.
How has history judged him on that one?
ernie lynch says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:19
The Sky deal is pie in the sky (did you see what I did there? did you?).
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dont mention pie, BFDJ might be lurking!!
re sky deal……… I would like to think, renegotiation or government intervention, with the latter being worse case scenario, would both be options before re-instating newco.
PC67
VP
No I’ve locked my ’employees’ in a cupboard on such a memorable day :-)
Jim Traynor today on the DR
“Where has all the money gone?”
Brilliant!!
Although technically, the money had to be there in the first place for it to have ever “gone”.
The champers has been chilling for quite sometime. With the DR now slicing Whyte, I think it may be time to get the glasses out.
malceye says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:55
Jim Traynor today on the DR
“Where has all the money gone?”
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Has he seen the price of lamb?
ernie lynch says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:53
Paul67 says:
31 January, 2012 at 13:46
Bob Kelly threatened to liquidate Celtic.
How has history judged him on that one?
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No, he threatened to resign, there was no definite outcome either way after that.
Also ernie, Bob Kelly wasn’t proposing a choice between us and them. Therein lies the difference, the rest of Scotland would chose them over us every day of the week.