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When the wealthy borrow from the poor

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Sell fans a ticket, you owe them a game of football.  Whether the standard or result it good or bad, it’s a relatively easy commitment to keep.  That’s what fans get in return for spending money on a ticket.

Sell people shares, you owe them a share certificate.  That’s what shareholders get in return for coughing up for shares.

Borrow money from fans and you owe them much more than a game of football or a share certificate.  In many instances that money will have come from people who had to forgo things to provide you with the loan.  You owe them a duty of care that their loan will be repaid, or converted with their agreement.

It beggars belief that an unsecured loan has been offered to Rangers International by fans group, Rangers First.  If, as claimed, the obligations to Sports Direct have been met, the club will have both the ability and the incentive to pass the securities previously held by Sports Direct to the fans group.  The club’s IP, training ground and ancillary assets should now be unencumbered, who better to have security over these critical parts of the club than a fans group?

Unless, of course, the obligations to Sports Direct have not been met.  Or someone else has their eye on the assets.

The claim that Dave King would match Rangers First’s loan took me by surprise.  This was counter to everything I knew and expected of him.  His swift denial was more consistent with expectations.

There is an axiom in football: Any club who has enriched a PR individual to the tune of £500k in the last year is making a serious attempt to divert it’s fans attention.  Celtic’s PR machine deals with the efficient communication of football information and financial reports.  Nothing whatsoever is spend attempting to lead the news agenda.  This often leaves us on the receiving end of that agenda, but we have nothing to hide.  Which is the way it should be.

Few sights in business or football can be more alarming than when purportedly wealthy people borrow money from poorer people.  The warning signs are writ as tall as the Ibrox stands.  This time there is no hidden Ticketus deal people can claim they didn’t know about.

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  1. My friends in Celtic,

     

     

    Personally I do not get offended at songs I hear over the media outlets. It shows their ignorance. If they want to glorify a facsist thug, then go right ahead. Anyway sticks and stones and all that.

     

     

    But I have a more practical reason. We know there is a difference between what we sing in regards sectarianism and what they sing. However many don’t and regard our songs as two sides of the same coin.

     

    Do we really want even more scrutiny for every away game. Do we really want more early dawn calls on our young supporters ?

     

    Remember the OB act is welcomed by most of the Scottish population.

     

     

    In my opinion, right or wrong ,many parents will dissuade their youngsters from going to watch us play. I have heard it many times on the blog, parents expressing concerns for their children’s future if they get convictions.

     

     

    I want to see as many supporters as possible attending games and I do not think that reporting Sevco’s dinosaurs will produce the end product that we would wish.

     

     

    Of course I don’t in any way condone their vile singing, but all I see is “tit for tat” which benefits no one. Personally I think we give them too much publicity, I would prefer to ignore them and treat them with contempt.

     

     

    Does anybody really think that if they stop their p@@h at football matches it will cease to exist!? Soceity condones them to march in our midsts. Neganon 2 is sometimes correct, for as long as they can stick two fingers up at us and bang their drums it will always exist.

     

     

    I just don’t want own goals. But that is only my opinion.

     

     

    Hail, Hail.

  2. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PAUL67

     

     

    Sevco put an outside agent £500k to manage news.

     

     

    We pay an inside agent twice that to do the same.

     

     

    What’s the difference,a few grand between friends?

  3. !!Bada Bing!! on 8th January 2016 1:30 pm

     

     

    Celtic will soon have more on trial at Lennoxtown than Sevco have at the high court

  4. The Clumpany,

     

     

    Loving your work my good mhan. The Rangers* nomenclature brightened my day as the snow starts to fall.(with apologies to Jobo)

     

     

    Showed the ‘Rangers*’ name to the office hun and wished him a good weekend.

     

     

    Funny how a wee asterix presses their buttons.

     

     

    Teeheecsc

  5. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Rangers in the shite, exchanging advances

     

    Wondering in the shite; what where are the finances?

     

    We’ll be sharing a cell before this shite is through

     

    Something in your IPO was so inviting

     

    Something in your smile was so exciting

     

    Something in my heart told me I must give to you

     

     

    Rangers in the shite, four million lonely peeple

     

    We were Rangers in the shite

     

    Up to the moment when we sang our first hello hello, little did we know

     

    death was just a shite away, a warm embracing fart away

     

    And ever since that shite, we’ve been together

     

    riots to incite, in love forever

     

    It turned out so right for Rangers in the shite

  6. Afternoon all.

     

     

    Snowing in Troon.

     

     

    Chucking it down.

     

     

    …and it’s lying.

     

     

    Great to be by the seaside.

     

     

    HH!!

  7. Bada Bing re: signing strategy

     

     

    Could not agree more

     

     

    We lack a spine in the team, that should be the top priority, not having a united nations of u21 players.

     

     

    Can’t imagine the next UN conference is going to be held at janefield street although judging by the signing strategy we have more than enough spare diplomats who’ll have plenty of spare time on Saturday’s to fulfill their supplementary role with aplomb.

  8. HT.

     

    E-mail sent to MSP. But as you know he has ignored my letters, etc., on several occasions last year. We will wait and see how things turn out this time.

     

     

    Could you email me as I have somehow managed to lose your address?

  9. A limited/sensitive update on Tommy re his Sky installation which was scheduled for today.

     

     

    Tommy is now out of hospital but is not currently able to be at home due to his hip operation. Accordingly we have, on doctors orders, had to put this back for around 6 weeks and then sort it out.

     

     

    We have purchased a laptop and have access to Celtic TV so we are going to get this to Tommy over the next few days so that he’ll be able to get some Celtic action that way. Hopefully we’ll get the other aspects sorted in due course and obviously I’ll keep everyone informed.

     

     

    Thanks again to everyone who supported this wee initiative.

  10. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Winning captains,

     

    Could pay for Tommysbhoy CTV subscription using an overseas credit card, load a VPN onto Tommysbhoy laptop and he can enjoy the games live even in the UK

  11. Bob O-more quantity less quality is the order of the day. We worked out we could field a team of midfielders,pretty sure they would all start on the left……;)

  12. I like the sound of us recruiting players from Croatia or Serbia. Croatian footballers in particular are undervalued.

     

     

    Apparently the dutch guy we’re linked with is a below average striker in holland. I’d like to think that his agent is trying to punt him (Cardiff denied they had tried to sign him)

  13. TIMALOY29 on 8TH JANUARY 2016 2:39 PM

     

    I like the sound of us recruiting players from Croatia or Serbia. Croatian footballers in particular are undervalued.

     

     

    Agree,still relatively cheap,and they seem to settle well in new countries HH

  14. THE BATTERED BUNNET on 8TH JANUARY 2016 12:43 PM

     

    With Celtic’s match played on Sunday, it gives the perfect opportunity for the South Lanarkshire Tims to get along to K Park for the Scottish Cup tie between EK FC and Lothian Thistle.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The winner will take their place in the last 16, with a (likely) 50:50 chance of drawing a top division club. Not to say us Kilby bhoys are nervous, but the prize money and gate share from a last 16 draw is worth 2 years budget to the club. (Ever the romantic, eh…)

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Come along, enjoy the spirit of the Cup, sit or stand as you please, and have a pint at half time if that’s your thing. There’s a story being written, and you can be a part of it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    TBB

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/when-the-wealthy-borrow-from-the-poor/#sthash.WcleZSZO.dpuf

     

     

    As an ex EK resident (St. Leonards) I occasionally pop along to K park to see the new team. Normally I can roll up and park right outside about 15 minutes before the start. It’s a great facility and I really enjoy going there. They even seem to have there own mini EK Brigade…

     

     

    Do you know if it’s pay at the gate tomorrow or is it a ticket game.

     

     

    Many thanks

  15. The Battered Bunnet on

    Bob

     

     

    Pay at the gate. £10 adults, £5 concessions. Get along in good time to catch a pint in the club and a seat in the stand (unless you prefer safe standing…). Match will be a sell out again.

  16. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Not even Lionel Messi could do that’: Watch Rangers target Toumani Diagouraga in action for Brentford

     

    11:17, 8 JAN 2016 UPDATED 11:18, 8 JAN 2016

     

    BY FRASER GLEN.

     

     

    BARCELONA superstar Lionel Messi is arguably the greatest player on the planet.

     

     

    The Argentine magician has won the Ballon d’Or three times, several La Liga titles, lifted the Champions League on four occasions and so on, and so on.

     

     

    But can he do it on a wet and windy night against Nottingham Forrest?

     

     

    In a game against the English Championship side last season, Rangers target and Brentford midfielder Toumani Diagouraga performed a lovely pirouette on the edge of his own box to beat his opponent.

     

     

    However, the commentator on Brentford’s official YouTube channel claimed: “Not even Lionel Messi could do that.”

     

     

    We’re sure the 28-year-old Frenchman, who was a first-team regular at the Bees last season as they reached the play-off semi-finals, is a talented player – perhaps, on the same level as Messi.

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    The time is now for strict liability to fight sectarian singing: Will Scottish football stand up and be counted?

     

    13:28, 8 JAN 2016 UPDATED 15:38, 8 JAN 2016

     

    BY DAVE SCOTT

     

     

    NIL BY MOUTH’S campaign director Dave Scott outlines why he believes our clubs have to embrace harsher punishments for sectarian chanting.

     

     

    LAST year the Scottish Social Attitudes Survey, headed up by respected academic Prof John Curtice, published research which showed that nine out of ten Scots believed that football was the main factor behind sectarianism in Scotland.

     

     

    Nil by Mouth have always understood that sectarianism is an issue that goes beyond our touchlines and terraces but with one in three of all sectarian arrests being directly linked to the game, and high profile incidents featuring regularly on the news, it’s clear to see why people appear to have formed this view.

     

     

    Part of the problem is the perception that the Scottish game doesn’t do enough to tackle bigotry and this was reinforced back in June 2013 when Scottish clubs voted overwhelmingly against implementing UEFA’s ‘Strict Liability’ principles at the SFA Annual General Meeting.

     

     

    ‘Strict liability’ is UEFA’s standard for fan behaviour and can see fines, points-deductions and sanctions taken, such as closing sections of a ground where offensive behaviour has taken place. It has been used to great effect in European matches in both the Champions and Europa Leagues. Over the last decade this has also included fines for Scottish teams in European competition.

     

     

    No one is advocating that, in Scotland, we should simply leap into a round of ground closures but Strict Liability provides a clear framework, including warnings, fines and sanctions for dealing with instances of offensive fan behaviour including sectarianism and racism. Something you’ll struggle to find in the nearly two-hundred-page SFA rulebook.

     

     

    However, there is a chance for football to stand up and be counted – the agenda will soon be agreed for the SFA AGM in June 2016. By agreeing to put a motion on ‘Strict Liability’ into the AGM agenda before the end of February the game would then have over six months for clubs to speak to their fans to gauge their opinion on the proposal.

     

     

    I’ve lost count of the number of football fans – from all clubs – who have told me that they are fed up to the back teeth of inaction of this issue. When we have floated the idea with fans’ groups they have seen very receptive towards it.

     

     

    They want to see the game show clear leadership on chanting and offensive behavior, rather than the usual limp press release from governing bodies claiming ‘everything that could have been done had been done’. Indeed when we raised these issues last year with the SPFL it told us it would hold an emergency meeting in February to discuss crowd behaviour.

     

     

    Nearly 12 months on we still have no information what if anything was agreed at that meeting. To be frank it was a hollow PR exercise to deflect attention and create the illusion that the game was actually going to try and manage it’s own environment.

     

     

    These excuses aren’t convincing anyone and until Strict Liability is implemented across the SPFL there is very clearly something more clubs and governing bodies can do.

     

     

    Nil by Mouth aren’t alone in calling for this change in thinking. The Scottish Government’s Advisory Group on Sectarianism published its report in May 2015 and made a number of recommendations for Scottish football to implement to create change in this area. These included implementing European-style sanctions.

     

     

    Sadly this report appears to be gathering dust on a Hampden shelf. Given the millions of pounds of public money pumped into the game over the last decade, politicians should not be slow to remind football of its responsibilities. The game cannot pick and choose the issues it has a conscience over.

     

     

    We realise that sectarianism is a problem for Scottish society and should not dump the blame at football’s door. However, by introducing Strict Liability, Scottish football has the chance to stand up on be counted and give encouragement and a voice to the thousands of real fans who turn up to support their team.

     

     

    The choice for Scottish football is stark: remain part of the problem or be part of the solution.

     

     

    You can follow Dave Scott on Twitter @DaveScott1977.

  18. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession on

    Subsidising sectarian marches to the time of £22M a year is somehow footballs fault

  19. Canamalar it looks like OCD obsession

     

     

    A bit harsh mate, the traditional folk art of the Orange Order is a huge draw in the tourist season, folk book their holidays from all over the world to see the cultural expression of hatred every summer..

  20. CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 8TH JANUARY 2016 4:03 PM

     

    Subsidising sectarian marches to the time of £22M a year is somehow footballs fault.

     

     

    ________________

     

     

    The same thought sprang to my mind, is that a true figure for the knuckledraggers, frightening if so in the day of food banks. HH

  21. Setting Free the Bears

     

     

    hi mate,can you post your link to James Kelly/fac discussion again please.The one that blocked you.Could you tell me which Celtic site it was,i read it when lurking over the holidays.Thought it pretty shameful mate.

     

    hope your well and all the best :-)

     

    HH

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