When we were kings

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Our now-annual defeat against St Johnstone yesterday was a timely reminder of how close to defeat any team can be if they are even slightly off their game.  Despite fighting the urge not to be disrespectful to yesterdays’ victors, they are a poor team, previously without a win, bottom of the league and they had to cancel training during the week due to illness in their small squad.

But, they deservedly beat Celtic.

Kris Commons was a bright light among the largely disorganised looking team structure.  Tony Watt also did well, even if he is still beating himself up for passing up the best chance of the game in the dying seconds, but defensively we were turned over, the midfield singularly failed to control the ball and Gary Hooper looked miles away from scoring his first league goal of the season.

Did we need a sharp reminder of the level of performance required against Benfica on Wednesday?  It looks like it.

When we were kings

Don’t worry too much, a team with Fallon, Gemmell, McNeill, Murdoch, Auld, Johnstone and Wallace were turned over 0-2 at home by Hearts in 1969.  A few days later Eusebio and Benfica, who lost the 1968 European Cup final after extra-time, a year after Celtic won the tournament, walked off Celtic Park having lost 3-0.

Artur Jorge played for Benfica that night.  Apparently he still lurks in the corridors.

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  1. Green gray 1967

     

    02:33 on

     

    17 September, 2012

     

     

    It looks like we are the only two readers and it’s nearly time for me to take out the garbage, batten down the hatches and head for bed.

     

     

    I’m sure you will be made welcome. Just ignore any Huns references.

     

    We all know they no longer exist.

     

     

    The Bushrangers will be along soon to keep you company.

     

    There was a wild colonial Bhoy, Jack Duggan was his name.

     

     

    Good night and God bless.

     

     

    ‘GG

  2. Not a “man”, cover up has been blown now, heads have to roll and if the MASONIC hand played a part, of which ive no doubt, then while camerons apologies were certinally welcome, charges should follow. In a tory led government, lets face it, it s not gonna happen!

  3. The huns will not be pleased. They will be confused. They think W.H.Smith is somehow linked to Sir Walter of Cardigan. That is, those of them who can actually read and do not rely on semiotics to guide them through their dismal sodden existences.

     

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A27ViXxCcAAlG-E.jpg:large

     

    This may bring some light to brighten their dark self delusions.

  4. Chris Torey

     

     

    00:08 on 17 September, 2012

     

     

    Hi PeteC

     

     

    Seeing some of that New Age stuff you post I had assumed you had jumped the dyke.

     

     

    Now you have confirmed it. The only Christians are Holy Roman Catholic and Apostolic, but I’m sure your intellectual pride can get round that.

     

     

    I’ll say a catholic prayer for you. In the meantime use some discernment in your viewing and reading.

     

    Try Black Legends by John Rao.

     

     

    Cast aside your pride.

     

    There aint no New Age dawning and teilhard du chardin was a masonic agent. Did you know that your other guru Morton William Bill Cooper was a De Molay freemason in his youth and used the connections in his career in the US Navy where he saw a UFo, ffs, a ufo? come on next thing we’ll be seeing David Icke’s lizards.

     

     

    If you ask nicely I can point the way for you I’ll leave with this . There are no Babylonian Mysteries they are folk lore, man won’t be transcending to the omega point, all that Djurkieff stuff about peak experiences and sh!t is just that SH!T.

     

     

    Start with John Rao. Have a google for Solange Hertz and Paula Haigh these are all you need.

     

     

    New Age was the title of as Masonic magazine called New Age in the 1880′s. Yes 1880′s that’s how far they plan ahead.

     

     

    HG wells war between the world was not prophetic it’s what the elite have planned and hope for. HG Wells was of the elite.

     

     

    George Orwel’s 1984 same again, not prophesy just someone with an insight to the future plans. Eric was one of the elite.

     

     

    viva cristo rey

     

    __________________________________________________________

     

     

    Off to work in a second and can’t respond fully but the stuff you are saying about William Cooper is just stuff he himself told everyone through his own broadcasts, hardly someone who was trying to hide anything. You have obviously only read the stuff used to try and discredit Cooper. It is laughable you mention the New Age publication as once again it was Cooper who exposed that in his broadcasts.

     

     

    I’m struggling to understand your view as I understand what the New Age is and what it is doing, do you?

     

     

    Will respond tonight after work.

  5. Morning from the Fresh, Crisp Chilterns…

     

     

    Interesting and accurate article by Mr Grant in The Hearld re.EBT dissembling by the RFC chiefs, past and present.

     

     

    Thought his point on the silence of Ralph Topping while his organisation and the appointed and independant legal operatives are being maliciously undermined.

     

     

    I remember a call by SFA Chief Mr Peat aimed at Celtic with regard to conspiracy theories – even though a conspiracy by his officials was proven and admitted.

     

     

    We really need to get these R@ngers men out of the Key posiitons in Scottish Footall.

     

     

    It seems to me they are being paid good money by Scottish Football to look after the interests of two Clubs, one in the fourth tier and one that no longer exists.

  6. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    MWD

     

     

    Good of you to selflessly put yourself in the firing line,buddy!

     

     

    Taking one for the team,so to speak……

     

     

    How’s life treating you anyway?

     

     

    All well,I trust.

  7. A very good morning all!

     

     

    Well done to Michael Grant in the ‘Herald’ for his article this morning for telling it like it is, and not pandering to the delusions of the sevconians!

     

     

    They will, no doubt, be boycotting that paper – hold on a minute they don’t read it anyway! Any ‘paper than contains words of 5 letters or more is way over their heads!

     

     

    HH!!

  8. Morning,

     

     

    tallybhoy have you read the Hun match report from Richard Wilson?

     

     

    It reads like a scout report and is obviously a desperate attempt to inform Fat Sally were his tactics are going wrong.

     

     

    One Nation…

  9. Alasdair MacLean on

    Petec,

     

     

    Sorry, misunderstood.

     

    Weren’t questions, really, more statements.

     

    Your post at 23:02 last night confirms that I misread what was being said.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Al

  10. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    Conspiracies sound hollow as the EBT accusation came from within

     

     

    Michael Grant

     

    Chief football writer

     

    FOR more than a decade, The Right Honourable Lord Nimmo Smith served as a judge in the Court of Session and the High Court.

     

     

     

    inShare

     

    He is a Privy Counsellor so his opinion is good enough for the Queen. He was schooled at Eton before studying classics at Balliol College, Oxford.

     

     

    Charles Flint QC is one of the most respected experts in sports law in Britain, having acted as an advisor and an arbitrator in a series of complex and high-profile cases. Nicholas Stewart QC has been a Deputy High Court Judge in England for over two decades. He, too, is an internationally renowned authority on sports law and arbitration.

     

     

    Fair play, then, to whoever it was at the Scottish Premier League who had the nerve to tell his Lordship and the QCs that their time will be deliberately wasted during the Rangers/undisclosed payments hearings because the whole thing has been decided in advance. Guilty verdict and penalties: all done and dusted, pre-judged by the SPL itself before Nimmo Smith does what he’s told and puts it in writing. That’s how the conspiracy theory goes, at least. Lord Nimmo Smith, Flint and Stewart – among the finest legal minds in Britain – are at the head of the SPL’s “Mickey Mouse” investigation (Charles Green’s words) and its “kangaroo court” (Sir David Murray).

     

     

    Sadly, neither Green nor Murray will say so to their faces, because neither of them will turn up when the Independent Commission gets down to business in November. That’s a shame, because the accusations are serious and ought to be taken seriously by all.

     

     

    Rangers, and Murray, should protest their innocence as long and loud as they like, as anyone would when faced with significant accusations. By not attending, no-one acting for the club can cross-examine witnesses or present a different interpretation on evidence which is heard. Instead of simply maintaining that they can comfortably defend themselves on all counts, there have been consistent attempts to undermine the credibility and motives of the investigation itself.

     

     

    The allegations against them weren’t trumped up by an outsider: they originate from a former Rangers director, Hugh Adam. They are innocent unless proven guilty and are entitled to a fair and honest investigation by the SPL. After Adam’s allegations, evidence to suggest they had a case to answer was collected by the SPL’s lawyers, and a verdict will be reached and any punishment applied by an eminent judge and two QCs. At no point is any other club involved in the process.

     

     

    This isn’t an investigation into using EBTs, remember, it’s a probe into specific allegations of SPL rule-breaking. It began with a statement on March 5 which said: “The SPL board has instructed an investigation into the alleged non-disclosure to the SPL of payments made by or on behalf of Rangers FC to players since July 1 1998.” Adam said of the alleged payments: “They weren’t included in the contracts. That was the whole point of them.”

     

     

    Now, either you believe Adam’s version of events or you don’t, but were the SPL supposed to ignore that? The initial investigation to find evidence substantiating Adam’s claims was carried out by Harper Macleod, the law firm which has acted for years as the SPL’s retained lawyers (and therefore represented Rangers, as an SPL shareholder, too). This has angered many Rangers supporters because Harper Macleod have also worked for Celtic, who would be the primary beneficiaries of any potential stripping of Rangers’ titles. Should the SPL have used another law firm to avoid all accusations of conflict of interest? Maybe, but what exactly is the innuendo here: that an established and respected company which is a member of the Law Society of Scotland would fabricate or suppress evidence in a football investigation? Seriously?

     

     

    Green has said: “The commission is not independent of the SPL. It has been appointed by the SPL. I don’t question the impartiality of the individual panel members but whatever decision they reach is a decision of the SPL.” Well, yes, of course it is. But if there is no question of their impartiality, that is all an accused can ask for.

     

     

    This investigation has not “pre-judged” Rangers nor, despite all the fevered debate about it, have they been condemned to being stripped of titles. They may be cleared just as they might not. Any punishment imposed on them could have nothing to do with titles being taken away. No-one can possibly know how Nimmo Smith, Flint and Stewart will rule on the case.

     

     

    Ralph Topping, the SPL chairman, has been predictably mute and invisible while his league’s investigation has been ridiculed, and given the sensitivities there should have been far more transparency and detail about why Rangers are being pursued over EBT payments while Celtic were not after using one to pay Juninho.

     

     

    But the fact remains: Rangers alone face a major investigation because they are the only SPL club accused of making widespread undisclosed payments. And the accusation was made by one of their own.

     

     

    It’s worth noting that so far Jordan Rhodes has spent his career only in the English lower leagues and even 40 goals in 45 appearances for Huddersfield Town did not land him a move to the Barclays Premier League. Craig Levein can legitimately use that as evidence that he is not the only one with doubts about the 22-year-old.

     

     

    But Rhodes gives Scotland fans hope and excitement when so much else is depressing. Right now he’s one of very few names who could help shift tickets for Scotland games. Levein’s unfortunate remark about him being “way overhyped” doubtless wasn’t meant to sound disparaging to a player this country needs, but it did.

  11. ASonOfDan @ 0748

     

     

    Just read Wilson’s match report.

     

     

    The wee nyaff is hurting big time! Looks as if he’s angling for a job on the coaching/scouting staff – could’nt do any worse than the numpties that are there now!

     

     

    Did’nt see any mention of a flare being thrown on to the park – this, apparently, caused damage to the new synthetic playing surface. Or the old ‘song book’ being wheeled out once again.

     

     

    HH!!

  12. !!Bada Bing!!

     

     

    in answer to your question – no

     

     

    the price quoted is the price paid – which includes insurance travelling between EEC countries

     

     

    but if in doubt drop them an email or give them a quick call

  13. Morning All, usual rubbish in the MSM. If we don’t win it’s because of the absence of Rangers, if we do win it’s because of the absence of Rangers. Anyway, we have bigger fish to fry on Wednesday.

  14. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Wee Catriona looking understated and professional this morning, nice understated way to start the le workin’ week.

  15. Robin Galloway just said on Radio Clyde that some huns went to Arran instead of Annan. God help the locals.

  16. ASonOfDan

     

     

    07:48 on 17 September, 2012

     

     

    ‘Morning,

     

     

    tallybhoy have you read the Hun match report from Richard Wilson?

     

     

    It reads like a scout report and is obviously a desperate attempt to inform Fat Sally were his tactics are going wrong.’

     

     

    #########

     

     

     

    This is his report in yesterday’s Independent.

     

     

    The comments section is worth reading.

     

     

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/rangers-falter-in-their-border-skirmish-8142381.html

  17. Morning all

     

     

    Big, busy week ahead. Does anyone have a link to Grant’s article in today’s Herald?

  18. Ho! MWD…!

     

     

    Not Heard Much From You And Dick Byrne Lately….

     

     

     

    Since The Grand Mufti Of Saudi Arabia Put Both Of You Oan A Fatwah….

     

     

     

    For ‘Blasphemous’ Statements Oan CQN.

     

     

     

    Salman Rushdie’s Run Into A New Spot Of Bother Himself….

     

     

    He Was Wonderin’ If He Could Move In Wi’ The Pair Of You…?

     

     

    To Share ‘The Craic’,Feeble Jokes,Household Expenses….

     

     

    And Mebbies More…?

     

     

    He Used Tae Be A ‘Hun’….

     

     

    But He’s Alright Now….

     

     

    ~~~~~~~~~~

     

     

    Let The Force Be With You….?