Our now-annual defeat against St Johnstone yesterday was a timely reminder of how close to defeat any team can be if they are even slightly off their game. Despite fighting the urge not to be disrespectful to yesterdays’ victors, they are a poor team, previously without a win, bottom of the league and they had to cancel training during the week due to illness in their small squad.
But, they deservedly beat Celtic.
Kris Commons was a bright light among the largely disorganised looking team structure. Tony Watt also did well, even if he is still beating himself up for passing up the best chance of the game in the dying seconds, but defensively we were turned over, the midfield singularly failed to control the ball and Gary Hooper looked miles away from scoring his first league goal of the season.
Did we need a sharp reminder of the level of performance required against Benfica on Wednesday? It looks like it.
When we were kings
Don’t worry too much, a team with Fallon, Gemmell, McNeill, Murdoch, Auld, Johnstone and Wallace were turned over 0-2 at home by Hearts in 1969. A few days later Eusebio and Benfica, who lost the 1968 European Cup final after extra-time, a year after Celtic won the tournament, walked off Celtic Park having lost 3-0.
Artur Jorge played for Benfica that night. Apparently he still lurks in the corridors.
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Squire
Thanks for directing me to Grant’s article earlier.
Hi guys. Anyone know Barcelona?
My brother’s staying in Poble sec and is looking for somewhere to watch the game on Wednesday.
I found Scobie’s Bar on the Celtic bars website – it seems closest. Anyone been?
NEW ARTICLE TIME,FOLKS
Philvis is in the building!
philvisreturns
11:17 on
17 September, 2012
Why do Celtic fans still read or listen to him?
Rocket Man – For all those looking for decent tapas in Glasgow: you won’t find any.
Do they still have Kublai Khan’s Mongolian Bar and Grill, with the advert where the great Khan says “You’ll go where I go, defile what I defile, eat who I eat!”
(thumbsup)
quonno – Why do Celtic fans still read or listen to him?
Passes the time I suppose. (thumbsup)
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – Soon, it will be time for The Quickening. (thumbsup)
From our friends at HMRC…
INS45005 – Successor companies: Background: What is a successor company?
For the purposes of this guidance successor companies (often called ‘phoenix companies’) are companies set up to continue the trade of the previous failed company with the same directors or company secretaries, often trading from the same business premises with the same assets and employees.
The previous liquidated company and the successor company can be linked in several ways, but the following links are ones which may give a reason to consider whether the successor company and the previous company deserve further consideration:
Are the directors the same or is there evidence that the directors of the previous company are connected with those of the successor company, or involved in its management?
Is the successor company carrying on the same trade as the previous company?
Are the employees the same?
Is the trading or company name the same or similar?
Are the trading premises the same?
Did the successor company acquire assets from the previous company?
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/insmanual/ins45005.htm
PHILVISRETURNS 1128
Sod off,after the weekend I had,The Awakening was bad enough!
Do they still have Jack McPhee’s chip shop on Byres Road?
Their sausage suppers used to come fresh from the sea. (thumbsup)
GonnaSignMaSunburn
Are the directors the same or is there evidence that the directors of the previous company are connected with those of the successor company, or involved in its management?
……………………………..
The Sevconian fail all of the other HMRC tests but do they pass this one?
Are there still directors of Rangers with Newco?
I wasn’t aware of it if there are.
test
SENSATIONAL BREAKING NEWS EXCLUSIVE:
BILL GATES TO BECOME ELVIS
Bill Gates will use the vast leverage of his Microsoft empire, he co-founded with Paul Allen in Albuquerque circa 1975, to buy up the “existing remainders of Elvis Presley’s identity”- the plan is for Gates to BECOME Elvis entirely, heart and soul. Gates is worth a reputed $60 billion and has already offered Priscilla and Lisa Marie an incredible offer for the Elvis legacy, including Graceland, the whole back catalogue of his songbook and various jumpsuits.
“I was watching the TV one night and saw how The Rangers under some chancer called Charles Green had bought the assets of the former club and decide it was the same club…so I decided that I would buy Elvis Pressley’s identity and BECOME Elvis. It wont be buying Elvis’ drug habit, burger addiction or even his accusations of racism. Its only the good stuff. Hopefully if everything goes well then I will be touring by the beginning of next year…the Elvis comeback resurrection tour will be coming to a city near you soon!”
There are still questions to be answered as to how Priscilla and Lisa Marie have reacted to this notion and the offer that Gates has presented to them. There is also the small problem of Melinda, Gates wife, and what are true feelings are to her husband becoming Elvis- but it has been rumoured she told a friend: “I always loved Elvis…I like the idea of having dinner with Elvis in one of those early 70s jumpsuits with the sparkly bits on.”
More to follow on this story.
Big Nan
11:33 on
17 September, 2012
GonnaSignMaSunburn
Are the directors the same or is there evidence that the directors of the previous company are connected with those of the successor company, or involved in its management?
……………………………..
The Sevconian fail all of the other HMRC tests but do they pass this one?
Are there still directors of Rangers with Newco?
I wasn’t aware of it if there are.
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Green and another guy were representing Rangers (IL) before they were actually put into liquidation at various meetings (including the creditors meeting IIRC, so i think they might be screwed on that count as well!
I gave up on The Herald last year and Michael Grant’s custodianship of the sports pages was the main reason. He must be the only Aberdeen supporter who positively loves Rangers.
I know we are supposed to rejoice when a sinner repents But Michael has been leading the Sevco cheerleading for so long that I fear that today’s article is not so much a repentance or conversion, but more an attempt to change his plea just before the verdict comes in.
Like Tom English before him, Michael Grant was a fully paid up adherent of the Jackson/Jabba/ King line that the whole thing was a fantasy dreamed up by rabid internet bampots and that business as usual would be shortly resumed.
Michael, may have changed his tune, having used Roger Mitchell as a shield to signal the change of policy, but I won’t accept him into our choir just yet.
These guys have been a party to burying the truth for the past decade. When the jungle drums speed up to announce an imminent verdict from either HMRC or the Independent Commission, then we will see the last rats deserting the holed ship.
Any day now, you can expect an article from Jabba saying that he has been warning rangers & Sevco about their illegalities for all of his “journalistic” career. And many of his remaining readers will swallow it. Some of them will bring the same style on to CQN.
setting free the bears – He must be the only Aberdeen supporter who positively loves Rangers.
Scott Booth? (thumbsup)
greenjedi I thought that they went into administration under Craig Whyte and Green was only a potential owner until they became Newco.
Would love to be wrong of course.
I have heard the argument that Alistair McCoist was part of the management of the Rangers and Sevco but don’t think that one will run. He can hardly be said to be managing the football team let alone the company!
They still haven’t been put into liquidation yet.
No the stout chap is a mere functionary and a not very well functioning one at that.
Willie Miller
philvis
“Their sausage suppers used to come fresh from the sea. ”
I have seen such objects being tossed around in the waves in the Irish Sea between Irvine and Ayr
Big Eck.
philvis & bsr
OK add Ricky Foster, David Robertson, neale Cooper and Alex McLeish too :-)
Curly
Is this whole Aberdeen hate rangers thing a scam???
Joey Barton’s move to Marseilles has been cancelled,apparently.
And it seems that QPR have offered him a free.
Turning up in The Ramsden’s Cup soon,I expect.
Are the directors the same or is there evidence that the directors of the previous company are connected with those of the successor company, or involved in its management?
POSSIBLY…I’ll bet there is some evidence of oldco directors being connected with newco…
Is the successor company carrying on the same trade as the previous company?
YES
Are the employees the same?
YES
Is the trading or company name the same or similar?
YES
Are the trading premises the same?
YES
Did the successor company acquire assets from the previous company?
YES
Same name, same premises, same employee uniforms(strips, club ties), same stinky customers.
From Michael Grant:
there should have been far more transparency and detail about why Rangers are being pursued over EBT payments while Celtic were not after using one to pay Juninho
Celtic were investigated and the authorities quickly found there was no case to answer. (thumbsup)
Big Nan
They were not Directors, but they were acting as Directors!
greenjedi, I hear what you say and agree but it does give them an out and they would argue otherwise with reasonable grounds of success IMHO.
Big Nan
Possibly, but since they fail ALL the other crieria and as the Directors of Sevco are claiming they are the Rangers who were founded in 1872, I’d guess it would be very hard for them to argue their case.
My posts aren’t appearing…
mmmmm it would appear that it’s only ones over one line long..
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hamiltontim
You will need to keep your podium chasing post short then mate.
:-))))
time…….
JEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ OH
As a Doctor Who fan of many many years I am offended beyond belief at the lunacy of Leggat today.
This next post is as much in a Doctor Who related post as it is a Celtic one so feel free to skip it.
Leggat has now had time to think about why this is a bigoted statement (because this is the first time he has ever made this accusation despite running with how offended he has been about it for some time without explaining why).
He said:
“No doubt, now, Alex Thomson will now try to attempt to pull off the same trick while explaining away his Dalek jibe at Rangers supporters, claiming he did not know it is common currency among certain sections of Celtic supporters – the low life kind he appears to have kept company with – and that it refers to the inability of the Dr Who villains to negotiate stairs.
Now, I must make it clear that such vile talk is not common currency across the board and generations when it comes to Celtic fans. Not one of the many friends I have who support Celtic would ever use it and this is especially true of those old enough to remember the terrible sorrow which gripped Glasgow and which crossed the Great Divide for days and weeks after those 66 innocent souls were lost.
Daleks is the insult of choice for the more hard line, extremist Irish Republican supporting section of Celtic fans, who belong to the internet generation where Alex Thomson seems to seek his following and approval.”
So there you have it, we call them Daleks because we are enjoying mocking people who lost their lives at the Ibrox disaster – IN THE NAME OF GOD how far up his backside did he have to go to pull that one out?
Let me ask – have ANY of you or ANYONE you know ever heard Celtic fans make such an inference? Because according to him the expert on all things Celtic it is “Common currency” among us.
Neither have I.
To use the most tragic event in Scottish footballing history and tie it to a remark about Kids TV show villains to try and make Celtic supporters and Alex Thomson into bigots is beyond the pale. I laughed at the insanity of it but the more I think about it the more I get angry. This kind of invented filth is what causes a great deal of the lunacy on FF and other sites.
My biggest problem with this is someone will believe that and this could in fact lead to potential trouble in the street. Thank God he is that much of an extremist that he cannot work for a paper to pollute decent society.
Moreover, has Leggat ever actually watched Dr Who before?
In 1988 Sylvester McCoy’s Remembrance of the Daleks saw Daleks going up and down Stairs and indeed in 2005 and ever since Daleks can fly. The Show was off the air in between 1989 and 2005 and so are we meant to believe the folk who made up this offensive term were sitting watching reruns on UK Gold at 7am on a Sunday to attack Rangers fans?
This is up there with the Leckie filth about synchronized coughing.
Apart from anything else, the old joke about it being easy to escape Daleks by running up or down stairs was entirely due to budget and NO CGI effects from 1963 – the late 80’s – it was not intentional to their design but one blogger can use this old fact to his perverted agenda.
The fact that he went mental about this remark (if indeed it was ever made in the first place) but waited two weeks before publishing the reason for his ire and disgust (because he couldn’t think why it was offensive at first and had to grab a tenuous link) and then in the same blog try to tie this to Hillsborough/Munich songs of hate is really the work of a wacko who has been brooding and festering to throw all that together.
Here is what has really happened:
Three weeks ago – New Series of Doctor Who starts with an episode called Asylum of the Daleks (oh the irony). Apparently Alex Thomson tweeted something about thems being Daleks. Ah-ha it’s a conspiracy.
Last week – Hillsborough verdict comes – it’s all over the papers, he reads it (sober), he goes to the off-licence buys a six pack and a bottle of Gin and gets to thinking why are we called Daleks? He then gets up (hungover like hell) reads something about Alex Ferguson and Brendan Rogers and ties it all together BECAUSE HE WANTS TO.
Result – that bampot blog today based on no facts just his drunken assertions, tenuous links and the voices in his head.
What a disgusting piece – offensive to so many and an insult to the intelligence of decent people everywhere.
Now Mr Leggless, let me explain how a Dalek analogy can work for the third time seeing as it’s your new obsesssion (see what I did there?) with regards to fans of a now defunct football team:
Daleks go around wanting to assert their cultural/racial superiority by screaming:
WE OBEY NO ONE
WE ARE THE SUPERIOR BEINGS
Please compare this with WE ARE THE PEEPEL and look at what happens when they get together in great numbers in foreign cities – carnage, people running away, destruction.
I’d say that would be the only realistic and indeed honest reason why anyone could refer to them as Daleks.
Your understanding or lack thereof of Doctor Who not withstanding, to try to tie Daleks, the Ibrox disaster and Hillsborough together for your own ends does not only make you appear sick but it shows you for what you are – dangerous. It is a downright lie to say Celtic fans have been calling Rangers fans Daleks for years and the fact that only today have you invented this apparent long standing sick joke says far more about you than anyone else.
Sorry to all posters on CQN for that rant and I know we should not give him the time of day but sometimes you need to fight your corner.
Philvis
When their banana fritters are fresh off the boat its time to get really worried…
4greenfields
It’s probably a blessing you know :-)
Chikatilo: Walter tried to sign me as backup to Terry Hurlock.
http://www.freeinfosociety.com/article.php?id=235
setting free the bears – Those brown things aren’t sausages. (thumbsup)