Police Scotland have spoken to business owners they think vulnerable to a Newco mob in Glasgow. Consequently, the Celtic Shop in Argyle St will close tomorrow; police are unable to offer sufficient security to staff or customers. Other bars and retail premises with links to immigrant communities will also close for the day.
Newco issued a statement asking, “If possible, please celebrate within your own community.” If possible? The subtext is not subtle.
The First Minister could not wait to get on in front of a TV camera to talk about a Celtic trip in January, despite her government approving the trip. But when it counts, when immigrant communities needs her protection, she looks the other way. Her Cyber Army will not be exploiting this like they exploited another immigrant community this week. You are being played.
It is like watching two rival gangster families. They bully indiscriminately but have different rules of engagement for each other. Celtic would never pull a “If possible” stoke, the £600k gangster knows this, so can grandstand about us.
People make Glasgow, apparently. Exceptionalism, def.: The term carries the implication, whether or not specified, that the referent is superior in some way. We are not exceptional, not in the slightest. If you are in any doubt, reappraise yourself tomorrow.
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QUESTION,
Why then,if what you say about people in England,not being bigots,because a few thousand walk through their streets,is the same logic not applied to the people of Scotland.
The problem about tomorrow is the move towards identity politics.
More and more of the TFOD2.1 fanbase only see themselves through the prism of a caricature.
The one upside from tomorrow is that the more carnage the TGFOD2.1 mentalist wing indulge in — the more the garden centre / pipe and slippers minority will follow the rugby.
Too many will chuckle at the carnage / some will move onto something else.
Riot a little and they put you in jail, riot a lot and they make you king.
Concerning that policing in Glasgow is becoming ever more political.
Given the large number of ex PSNI senior officers in Scotland, one wonders what their idea of ‘normal’ is.
Policing by consent??
Whose?
Is it true Irish pubs have also been advised to close in Glasgow tomorrow?
TURKEYBHOY on 14TH MAY 2021 12:40 PM
So we have someone who jokes about selling bananas to Celtic fans to throw at Mark Walters lecturing us about bigotry?
Ottoman Empire Boy @ 12.40
Similar amount of bigots — just a case of where the anger is directed.
Scotland doesn’t have — at the moment — a colour issue because too many use up their hate on religion and cultural background.
Huns – defined by thur ain aktions.
HHH.
Paul has become the Adrian Durham of the Celtic blog world
ERNIE LYNCH on 14TH MAY 2021 12:21 PM
Blimey Hear Hear 100%
67ECW
Serious question: Do we get tomorrow’s game, as added value, on our season ticket pass?
Ha ha, the first page dominated by posts from O’Brien😂
Cyber army indeed.
Question on 14th May 2021 12:36 pm
If you think I’m excusing Bigotry of any kind you are totally missing the point.
I think we need to walk a line between the desire to get refunds for an unsatisfactory service (on and off the field) this season and our need to remain competitive as a club.
As far as I am aware, financial compensation was offered to those who felt the need to take it up, and many did so. And let me be clear, I have no issue at all with anyone who took up this offer as these are troubled financial times and many people are in real hardship.
However, we are in the same boat as our Glasgow rivals. They too were not able to offer match day attendance to those who bought their SB’s for Ibrox. I don’t know if they were offered any refund or what percentage took it up. Even if they did have a following that was less economically disadvantaged than ours, and I don’t know whether that is true any longer, I am willing to bet that a much smaller percentage of their following asked for or got a refund.
Their following is so grateful that they manufactured a seemingly unlikely league win, that they would think long and hard about complaining about what they were offered this year.
We, on the other hand, ARE very dissatisfied about what we have seen on the field and from our Board. It would be dishonest to state that all the requests for refunds were from people who were in severe financial straits, and we should recognise that many refunds were sought to expres dissatisfaction with our Board more so than our team.
Neither Board at Ibrox or CP were responsible for zero attendances this year- Covid and government regulations were. Nevertheless, refunds for this situation were offered and taken up- we took a hit financially, along with most other clubs. We can argue about whether the refund was generous enough but we cannot say that nothing was done.
We now seem to be looking for what compenstation will be ofered for next season, if similar circumstances apply. I for one, am hopeful that, with increasing health prospects and control of Covid variants, reasonably large attendances can be sanctioned by August, even if it is only in the 10k to 30k region. I am hopeful that full capacity is a possibility before December, and I base that on the allowances given to indoor sports like Snooker and the Liverpool raves and concerts that have already been allowed in May.
So how should our club plan for 2021/22 refunds before we know what percentage loss of match day attendance entitlement we are going to suffer. Will I miss 10% of our home games? Or 50% or more? Who knows?
So, should we not base our refunds on a more accurate picture of what our losses for next year will be?
I did not expect my club to have re-drafted proposals for season 2020/21 other than to have a listening ear and to be prepared to countenace making a further refund offer once more is known about circumstances. Neither did I expect that the club should offer a refund to those who did not wish to take up the refund offer this season. Most of those people were happy to let the refund offer go.
I understand that some people cannot afford to renew next year. Many among us are going to have to be more prudent with our money in these difficult times and football match day SPFL attendance is not one of the necessities of life. I also understand that many, who can afford it, will not renew because of dissatisfaction with Board actions and inactions on a variety of issues. I have no issue with anyone in either of those positions,
But there is a direct relationship between our SB income and our success on the field. We cannot withhold money from the Board without reducing money available to the squad and team.
I am happy for a judgement to be made based on the projected amount of match day attendance misses we will each be forced to endure next season. I don’t know how anyone can calculate that now but a commitment to making such an offer once more of the data on it is calculable, would go a long way/
We are up against 50k of supporters at Ibrox who are likely to sign up to full price SBs at Ibrox whilst being no clearer than we are on what they will receive. If more of our support seek refunds than theirs do, our team recruitment will suffer accordingly. That is a fact not an attempt to guilt trip anyone.
I spent long enough of my life unable to attend CP every 2nd weekend, because of other commitments, that I am unlikely to break the habit I have got used to for the past 20+ years, so long as I can afford it and am healthy enough to do it.
I hope everyone makes their individual decisions based firstly on what they need to do in prioritising their money and, secondly, on the strenght of their wish to support Celtic, the team, financially.
lets all do the huddle on 14th May 2021 12:55 pm
I like that wish I’d thought of it :-)
DREW1967 on 14TH MAY 2021 11:35 AM
Morning
Will have a wee toast to Scott Brown tmrw in the Lovat.🍻
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Please remind me WHERE ” The Lovat” Pub is sited again…is it on the border between Yoker and Clydebank ?
It rings a bell, as I am sure that Ive drank in it a couple of times many moons ago ?
HH Mate.
Im asking
“re-drafted” should be read as “pre-drafted”
Paul67…
Since you took the decision to permanently ban me, p8ddy from the site (oh, and thanks for the responses to my emails… or at least, I would say thanks except you didn’t even have the courtesy to reply beyond ‘yer banned’ pretty much) , I felt forced to shuffle back to the fold with an updated moniker to challenge this latest post.
Rangers? You’ll get no argument from me over any of your points. They’re toxic. And the addition of Ulster unionists (of which you agree with his basic policy btw) has made things much, much worse. The worst of the Ibrox element has been emboldened.
The rest however? Let’s get real. In amongst your grandstanding – you’re referring to protecting immigrants. There were dawn raids in Glasgow at the behest of the government you’re standing up for. And more importantly – The Westminster government have been putting the wheels in motion to protect soldiers from being held to account for murder and human rights abuses. We’re only days after the results of the coroners report on the Ballymurphy Massacre finding that the people murdered by troops were entirely innocent. Boris Johnson’s response? “Let’s protect our troops” – That’s what he wants, that’s what he’s aiming for – Letting murdering scum who, with the backing of the then government assassinated men, women and children. We could go on about internment too, but that seems a mere inconvenience in the face of what’s now going on. Your favoured party’s leader, Keir Starmer was so in favour of troops escaping justice he sacked three front benchers for voting against the law.
You’ll forgive me if I don’t view the Huns celebration with quite the same alarm as the government YOU back protecting murderers.
In a long line of colour blind and distateful articles, this ranks right at the top. Ballymurphy. Repeat that to yourself a few times before grandstanding on the protection of immigrants.
You’ll also forgive me if I’m cynical about the reasons for my permanent banning from here. Especially seeing as you couldn’t cite anything concrete, beyond making the false claim I’d been banned before (which we both know is nonsense). Is it too soon to refer to myself as having been ‘Walkered’ from CQN? ;)
/p
SFTB…
On the previous thread I have invited your good self and BLANTYRE TIM, OLDTIM etc to the Beer frenzy in my local Pub next Friday afternoon around 2pm.
it would be super duper IF any of you Bhoys can make it ?
HH Mate.
Some one has asked on here, if Immigrant Business’s have been advised to remain Closed in Glasgow on Saturday ?
Im sure that I read that somewhere in the last couple of days, so it probably means that Irish Pubs are included in that advice ?
Im not 100% sure ?
HH
I think pubs in the Merchant City will probably stay closed…which is Feckin shocking…ALL because of Huns who REFUSE to behave themselves…MOB Rule !
HH.
Big Jimmy
I will try to drop in. As you know from recent hootenanny experience I have a low capacity for alcohol these days. If you don’t mind someone supping a pint slowly….
“When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle”
(Edmund Burke)
Above quote occasionally reported as …
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”
When dealing with Sevco and their “culture” the establishment has gone down the Chamberlain route.
Appease, appease, appease.
Pablo – publish a link to the (redacted) correspondence.
All establishments engaged – publish the written advice provided by Polis Scotland highlighting the named individual who provided it.
Organise a march.
Let’s see if Polis Scotland deploy the same public safety tactics (translated – “walk with” / “smiles” / “selfies”)
Or
Stick with the kettling and video recording approaches they’ve use in the past towards our “culture”.
Hail hail
Keep The Faith
We’re Not Half of Anything
19-1
As a general point…
And I’m struggling to comprehend actually writing something in defence of the police –
What do we expect them to do tomorrow/in relation to the Huns and their ‘celebration’? Police Scotland have set out their stall with most marches of any sort to police them rather than stop them. Mitigation is the key principle. There aren’t enough cops to stop it, and the chance of a riot ensuing becomes much greater.
Do the SNP have a problem? Personally, I don’t think they’re anti-Celtic, but the inability to see or address mistakes is a serious issue. The OBF act being the worst. Cynically speaking, maybe the best thing tomorrow *is* a riot. Resetting expectations of Rangers fans behaviour is long overdue, and it appears that one incident isn’t enough. Let them fill their boots and show people how toxic they are.
I have friends that support various teams, including Motherwell – and in a clear contrast to 20 years ago, not one single Motherwell fan I know has anything other than mildly disguised hate for Rangers where they’re fairly relaxed about Celtic. This same attitude is mirrored across most teams IMO. Rangers have made themselves toxic in the eyes of people ‘in the know’, and most of the general populace. Maybe GCC need their eyes opened, need a taste of the bitter medicine. At least none of the SNP are in Rangers pocket (unlike when the bold Franko Mack was getting freebies right left and centre from them).
In the media and everywhere else, the losing team will cop more flack than the winners. The fact we’re an absolute circus just now is doing us no favours. We’re in disarray, and apparently either blind or indifferent to how things are panning out. The quoting of Connor McGregor or the appointment of Howe will not alter that. Rather than pointing fingers, we need to stop the naval gazing and be on the front foot again.
/p
Yes Celtic are open to all but many of us are
Catholic, are from Irish descent.
And we are being told by those who consistently put the SNP before anyone, on a Celtic blog, which only ever had slight, occassional often educational poltics discussion pre the Indy Vote. It was just Celtic supporters chewing the fat.
Paul 67 never mentioned politics. These blogs are a response to the snp constant campaign on a Celtic blog.
Where the main intollerance is against Celtic supporters, often Catholic, often from Irish descent worry about what Scotland will do to us given the state right now.
Btw indy Scotland would have to remove those who broke immigration rules too. Every country in the World does. Even the really nice countries. Scotland’s immigration control would likely be created and employ huns…….sure that’ll be fine…..
p8 @ 1.30
P67 — huge own goal if he has banned you.
Better to give you a megaphone and let others decide.
Your St Als 6th year posturing hasn’t improved with age.
As for your comments about BoJo and his posturing — that is what he does.
If you want things to change you have to remove him from government.
IndyRef2 won’t stop him from doing what he does.
Only UK political action can do that.
Pulling up the drawbridge at Carlisle won’t make things better for the victims of Ballymurphy.
Final point — understand the significance of the 18th June 1970.
It explains a lot.
Take a minute and read the blog.
It consists of wave of attack on Celtic supporters by a group who so many after 17 politics posts say “i agree” in response to a really simplistic Celtic post.
I get the feeling at times some who post here don’t even like football, never mind Celtic.
It’s like you are being attacked for being……a Tim!
SFTB@1:45pm
You and me would get on well, when open i go to the club for a couple of hours and have two pints.
Not worth Big Jimmy coming out.Would love to come home for a holiday but it would all depend on health.
WE were booked to come home Sept.2018 but had to cancel,you never know we might make it down the road…….God willing.
DeniaBhoy,
So sorry to hear about your mate. All the best to you both.
P8ddy,
I always enjoy reading your thoughts.
TIMMY7_NOTED on 14TH MAY 2021 1:28 PM
lets all do the huddle on 14th May 2021 12:55 pm
I like that wish I’d thought of it :-)
The two of you are more or less calling P67 a racist, on his blog.
I think you should apologise.
Big Jimmy- from earlier – You are Arthur Daley to my Terry McCann.
Yes the Lovat us on border of Yoker and Clydebank.
A wee bit under the weather after 2nd vaccine yesterday.
D :(
SETTING FREE THE BEARS FOR RES. 12 & OSCAR KNOX on 14TH MAY 2021 1:45 PM
Big Jimmy
I will try to drop in. As you know from recent hootenanny experience I have a low capacity for alcohol these days. If you don’t mind someone supping a pint slowly….
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Its obviously up to you how fast or slow you are when drinking a Pint, as the real importance is that you and everyone else enjoys themselves, and we have a good laugh etc….which I am sure we will.
it will be great if you can make it, you DO know what pub it is…?
Its The Old Shipbank in the Saltmarket.
The Main its being held in there is that , when the Pubs Reopened after the 1st lock Down last year…DAVID66 and I wanted to meet up for a Bevvy after he had helped me get shopping etc at the start of the First Lock Down, and I wanted to somehow repay him for his kindness…But I never did LOL ?
So we met along with some other CQNrs in DAVID66’s local in August/September last yera and we had a good day although his local didnt sell MY favourite Beer and we had to Book Up etc….
DAVID66 agreed that MY local should be the Port of call for any future Drinking, and although I will speak to the Owner on Monday when it reopens, I do NOT expect any problems about Booking, Numbers etc…and I obviously KNOW that they sell my favourite Beer.
I hope to see you there next Friday…all the best Mate.
I’ll buy you a SLOW Pint…LOL.
HH.
Martim1980 on 14th May 2021 1:54 pm
right you are.
MADMITCH…
P67 — huge own goal if he has banned you.
He’s banned me, be in no doubt.
Better to give you a megaphone and let others decide.
Despite the ‘open your mouth and prove it’ overtones, I agree with the general principle.
Your St Als 6th year posturing hasn’t improved with age.
Nor has your inverted snobbery, but we all have our crosses to bear.
As for your comments about BoJo and his posturing — that is what he does.
Stop the press…. we agree! :D
I expect posturing, but some, especially around immigrants and at the time of the Ballymurphy coroners report, it’s sometimes just too much to pass without comment.
If you want things to change you have to remove him from government.
Scotland’s vote doesn’t count as far as Westminster goes. We don’t participate in a democracy. If we did, Brexit wouldn’t have happened. I cannot, and will not accept being a junior partner in a ‘democracy’.
IndyRef2 won’t stop him from doing what he does.
You’re right, it won’t. But it’ll remove people (myself included) from a system that doesn’t represent them, that won’t represent them and that will never represent them.
Only UK political action can do that.
It might if we were in a democracy, but we aren’t. At *best* we’re in an oligarchy. At best.
Pulling up the drawbridge at Carlisle won’t make things better for the victims of Ballymurphy.
Of course it won’t. But that was never my point. What it would do however is disassociate us from it.
Final point — understand the significance of the 18th June 1970.
It explains a lot.
I don’t think the election of another Tory government was significant. Although, I’m happy to be educated on the finer points of why it was significant. That’s a genuine response btw. I’ll always be happy to learn a new angle, see a different opinion and challenge my own thoughts. The UK in tory/labour terms has always been more likely to vote tory than labour, vote right rather than left. And the UK has been, historically, showed little other than naked aggression and hatred toward to the Irish. That hasn’t changed throughout the years.
/p
Timmy 7 you never post about Celtic. Every reading blog can see that
So we are being asked to believe that Celtic have been intimidated into closing the Celtic shop this weekend. This is the same Celtic board that coordinated with those same police to prevent Celtic fans from protesting about the running of the club.
Crocodile tears.
Martim1980 on 14th May 2021 2:19 pm
Thanks for the insight.
All timmy7 does in the blog is defend or promote the snp directly or through attempting to discredit those who have alternative views.
All those lurking can see that.
DAVID66 on 14TH MAY 2021 2:14 PM
Big Jimmy- from earlier – You are Arthur Daley to my Terry McCann.
Yes the Lovat us on border of Yoker and Clydebank.
A wee bit under the weather after 2nd vaccine yesterday.
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Sorry to read that your unwell…Get well ASAP !
I wasnt sure about the Lovat…and I was in the process of Googling it…Cheers. I think I drank in it a handful of times when I lived in Yoker back in the 1980’s.
As for Arthur Daley, heres a wee bit of TV Trivia for you…What DATE is the Bold Arthurs Birthday ?
The 12th JUL;Y. In an episode he is in court and is asked to confirm his birthday ?
I know how Arthur Daley DIED……” He FELL AFF the back of a Lorry” !
HH Mate.