Where is this relationship going?

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Signing young players on loan has worked well for Celtic in the recent past: Patrick Roberts and Odsonne Edouard, being good examples.  While others, like Charly Musonda, failed to make the grade.  Musonda had talent (you remember that chip against Zenit), but he never looked up to the physical challenges of the professional game.

When Celtic sign the likes of Timothy Weah on a short-term loan, our initial thought is, “Where is this relationship going?”  Will the loan be extended, as it was for Roberts, or end in a purchase, as it did for Edouard, or will this be a one-off gig?

Weah appears to have abundant talent but his chances of breakthrough at PSG are limited.  Mbappe, Neymar and Cavani head an illustrious list of strikers at a club always looking to add to their squad.  It is more likely that the Paris club will look to build Weah’s value at Celtic in the hope of earning an inflated transfer fee.  This practice is how all tier-one clubs operate and underpins their Financial Fair Play credentials.

It is important for Celtic to build a squad – to manage our assets.  The try before you buy model, used effectively with Edouard, works well in this regard.  Building relationships with PSG or Man City, who know their players can gain necessary experience and appreciate in value, means we remain a valuable option for future deals.

But we also need to win football games, irrespective of more strategic concerns, even if there is no long-term relationship with the player.  Sometimes it is OK for a relationship not to last beyond the summer.

Welcome to Celtic, Timothy.

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  1. mike in toronto on

    DD/SoT

     

     

    Just booked a week in Antigua (beginning of February)….

     

     

    Dont know much Antiguan reggae, but if anyone does, I am assuming one of you guys would… I”m always happy to continue my CQN musical education. So, if you have any recommendations, …

     

     

    Otherwise, I guess I will just have to get by dancing on the beach with a beautiful lady to some soca or calypso….

     

     

    :)

  2. Why couldn’t we just invest in the future by putting big money (by our standards) for 1 hit 20-25 M and we have Champions League secured forever ? We have the finance to do it and over a period it will work out to be the shrewdest investment.

  3. After the summer of discontent even BR didn’t think he’d be in a mud fight with Sevco, but we are, and for the first and only time, they dominated BR’s side, makeshift as it was. Had the sides re met at Celtic Park on the Wednesday we’d have humped them IMHO because every dog, had had its day.

     

     

    The Ibrokes fanny fare complete without Celtic fans, but including random bricks at bus, minutes silence, visiting army generals , loyal MP’s, SPL flame throwers normally restricted to champions day, bent referee and assistants just in case, helped the jaked up side make Celtic wilt on game thirteen

     

     

    In the lead up to our big day at the bigotdome the holes were punched by Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, and even Livingston had a pop, at BR drooping high press where players were sussed in season two. Warning signs ignored apres invincibles, falling out was inevitable at Celtic between custiodian and visionary. The ‘visionary’ at Celtic has the tendency to move on after x number of titles, when ‘the board’ whether is its Quinn or Kelly, brilliant young managers will get bored with having no reel revenue, where even Bolton had more money and Celtic’s restriction to legitimate caution wins.

     

     

    Scottish legally bought and paid for transfer record smashed, some old favourites have faltered in a maligned league that is much, much better than its portrayed by SMSM, that now daily, focusses itself on Celtic’s massive financial advantage that goes beyond the world of Bosman, whenever we like. Complacency is a word often thrown around but Moussa Dembele’s desire to be the king of Lyon instead of Glasgow was a gift from god for Celtic supporters, one which the custodians will not get away without delivering.

     

     

    Get the chequebook out CSC

  4. South Of Tunis on

    MIKE IN TORONTO

     

     

    Think you are more likely to get Calypso and Soca in Antigua.I also think any reggae there is likely to be pap for tourists..I ‘d speculate that you’ll find good Calypso /Soca in bars frequented by locals .

  5. mit

     

     

    talking about music went to see bohemium rhapsody new years day, went to the early show 1:10pm

     

     

    arrived about 12:45 got the last two tickets.it was a great show , dont know if you like queen but the young man malik(sp) did him proud.

  6. succulentlambstinks on

    Where is this relationship going?

     

     

    Doon the pan that’s where.

     

     

    Brendan has won a double treble.

     

    He deserves to build a team of bought players, not loan signings.

     

    Paddy Roberts the example. Loaned for few seasons then when he’s recalled to mother club we miss him badly. Had he been purchased then who knows where we would be …still in ch lge ? 15/20 points clear in the lge ?

     

    Now we may rely on weah and his goals only for him to leave end of season.

     

    I’d see the point of this loan model if we were sevco and skint but we aren’t yet act like it.

     

    Lawwell is holding back Brendan and the club whilst boosting his pension at the clubs expense year on in.

  7. succulentlambstinks on

    More we earn = less we spend.

     

    Before you ask …

     

    Edouard £9 mill = probably £1mill per year over 9 yrs.

  8. mike in toronto on

    SoT… that was my sense, but you guys know much more about that scene, so thought I would check. And, as I said, a little bit of soca on a beach isn’t much too bad … so I wont complain too much…..

     

     

    TH … never really a queen fan, but I have heard good things about the film,and particularly about his performance. So, I will probably see it, but might wait until it comes onto netflix to see it …

  9. Who would you prefer – a crap perm player like Marvin Compper who contributes feck all and smells out the place on generous terms or a long term loanee like Paddy Roberts ?

  10. MIKE IN TORONTO SOUTH OF TUNIS

     

    Was in Antigua on a job many years ago.

     

    We were told about a bar near beach with good live reggae.

     

    Went along with company and the place was great and music decent.

     

    It was great fun and locals were friendly.

     

    Until a crowd of mostly English jobs entered with NF,Union Jack and bulldog tattoos appeared and were hellbent on trouble.

     

    Turns out a navy warship was in port and their good old racist behavior was being fueled by their numbers.

     

    I told my companions we should leave as trouble was coming so we stood off to the side till they finished their drinks.

     

    Suddenly the place erupts with chairs and bottles started flying.

     

    It was bedlam but we were away from the trouble.

     

    The military and local police arrived promptly and many were arrested.

     

    Lots of people were left needing stitches and a few went to hospital with worse.

     

    Was a pretty wild night.

  11. succulentlambstinks on

    Who would you prefer – a crap perm player like Marvin Compper who contributes feck all and smells out the place on generous terms or a long term loanee like Paddy Roberts ?

     

     

    Neither. I’d prefer the rat board to spend big.

     

    Spend big and gain it all back in one season qualifying for ch lge.

     

    Speculate to accumulate.

     

    Not on penny pinching signings and loan players who play 3 games a year.

  12. GlassTwoThirdsFull on

    Timothy Weah has promised blood, sweat and tears.

     

    Good to know he is already familiar with our opponents!

  13. Fool Time Whistle on

    TOPKAT on 8TH JANUARY 2019 12:15 PM

     

     

    meow

     

    …………………

     

     

    You been at the milk again?

  14. mike in toronto on

    Fan

     

     

    Took my 76 year old mum there a year ago…. but, we didn’t really leave the resort, so, am hoping to see a bit more of the country this time.

     

     

    Thought it would be too much for her at her age … but since then, I think she has been in Thailand, did a cruise up the danube in the summer, ireland/Scotland in the fall, and is leaving next week for a three week trip to Machu Pichu, and the amazon!

     

     

    I thought I was taking it easy for her …. in hindsight, it might have been the other way ’round!

     

     

    :)

     

     

    her and her friends call their trips SKI holidays …. and every time they say it, they laugh… I thought ‘ski… in Thailand?!” … apparently, SKI is short for Spending Kids’ Inheritance !

  15. Just seen Tim being interviewed, really well mannered Bhoy, saying all the right things,says BR wants to play him as a striker.

  16. No Bobby Does It Petta on

    Timothy Weah

     

    Oliver Burke

     

    Lewis Morgan

     

    Daniel Arzani

     

    Johnny Hayes

     

    Kundai Benyu

     

    Scott Sinclair

     

    Ryan Christie

     

    Mikey Johnston

     

    James Forrest

     

    Johnny Hayes

     

    Tom Rogic

     

     

    WTF?

  17. What is the Stars on

    Ok

     

    so now we get this

     

     

    “Lawwell is holding back Brendan and the club whilst boosting his pension at the clubs expense year on in.”

     

     

    Lawwell is feckin employee who does what his employers ask of him.

     

    His wages and bonus and pension are agreed between him his employer..

     

     

    He does not take money out of an allocated transfer fund and stick it in his pension.That would be fraud and he could go to jail for that.

     

     

    God bless Peter Lawwell,keeping the green flag flying in spite of the naysayers and begrudgers.

  18. Chris Sutton has this to say.

     

    “Celtic are chasing Vakoun Issouf Bayo but it’s hardly an inspiring target. Even his own manager at Dunajska Streda says he’s a raw prospect with a dodgy first touch and a struggle with tap-ins.”

     

     

    Are we signing a Morelos twin?

     

    Guess it’s with an eye on future bumper transfer fee when we sell him to China or an unknown club in an unknown universe.

  19. TIMHORTON on 8TH JANUARY 2019 3:41 PM

     

    mit

     

     

    talking about music went to see bohemium rhapsody new years day, went to the early show 1:10pm

     

     

    arrived about 12:45 got the last two tickets.it was a great show , dont know if you like queen but the young man malik(sp) did him proud.

     

    —————

     

     

    being to cheap to go to the pictures i thought i would be smart and downloaded a pirate copy from one of those dodgy streaming sites.

     

     

    the quality was crap though.

     

     

    when i started to watch it, all i could see was , a little silhoutte of a man

  20. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    @ WHAT IS THE STARS on 8TH JANUARY 2019 4:24 PM

     

     

    “Lawwell is feckin employee who does what his employers ask of him.

     

     

    His wages and bonus and pension are agreed between him his employer..”

     

     

    Lawwell is the CEO. He makes the majority of the business decisions for the club. His bonus is determined by an executive committee i believe, but I’m unsure of its make-up.

     

     

    Obviously DD holds sway over certain aspects being our largest individual shareholder and a director as well.

     

     

    However, to draw an equivalence between Lawwell and standard ’employee’ is erroneous.

  21. What is the Stars on

    The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see

     

     

    However, to draw an equivalence between Lawwell and standard ’employee’ is erroneous.

     

     

    So Lawwell can do what he likes with Celtics money…..???

     

    Siphon off transfer funds for his own use..

     

    Decide to underfund the club so that it fails and he can get a bigger bonus ( how in the name of all that is holy does that work)

     

     

     

    He does what he’s told..

     

    he’s not the big bad bogey man people think he is.

     

     

    Plenty of erroneous contrbutions on here relating to Lawwell…I’d say mine wouldnt be in the top 100 !!!

  22. WITS

     

    Who said Lawwell siphoned off funds for his own use?

     

    Just curious as i must have missed said post.

  23. What is the Stars on

    3 signings

     

     

    8 days

     

     

    Lawwell wasting all our hard earned cash….the feckin loony

  24. Good. Now we can get down to the serious business of moaning about not signing a right back

  25. For info,

     

     

    Remuneration Committee

     

    The Remuneration Committee is chaired by Tom Allison. The other members are Brian Wilson and Ian Bankier.

     

    The Remuneration Committee determines the terms of engagement and remuneration of the Company’s executive Directors, Company Secretary and certain senior executives, on behalf of the Board. The Committee also monitors the Company’s executive share option scheme and implementation of other executive and employee incentive schemes. A detailed report is included within the Annual Report.

  26. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    @ WHAT IS THE STARS on 8TH JANUARY 2019 4:59 PM

     

     

    Lawwell is the CEO. He is in charge of the running of the club. I recognise that DD is the largest individual shareholder and is also a director so I’d imagine his opinions are certainly taken into consideration (read: followed).

     

     

    However, Lawwell earned £2.6m last year (salary and bonus) , so for that amount of money (which is obscene for a club of our size) I’d expect that he is very hands on with the running of the club.

     

     

    I don’t think Lawwell is committing fraud of course not, but under his stewardship his salary (which will be decided amongst the directors) has increased many times over, however there has not been an equivalent increase in, nor an equivalent importance placed upon, our transfer dealings or our team; this has been to our detriment.

     

     

    To think that Lawwell is doing a sterling job is misguided.

  27. The hands cant hit what the eyes cant see on

    Well now Bayo is signed, time to turn our attention to the defence.

     

     

    Onwards and upwards.

  28. What is the Stars on

    Hands cant Hit

     

     

    To think that Lawwell is doing a sterling job is misguided

     

     

    I disagree….but then again I would wouldnt I

  29. blyth spartans sign up sponsorship with north korea tourist board.

     

     

    sack our shortsighted board.

  30. Welcome Hunskelper Vakoun Issouf Bayo….

     

     

    Come on Green Brigade, where’s the song ?

  31. Bayo come and he wanna score goals. Bayyyyyyo.

     

    The bhoy looks as if he knows where the goal is.

     

     

    Come on Celtic get a Right Back and centre back on board.

     

     

    Oh and chase Beaton tae feck.

     

     

    Bring on the Ref strike, looking forward to a clean unbiased game of football.

     

     

    D. :)

  32. Welcome Bayo.

     

    Look forward to you bursting the net.

     

     

    Though if we are to believe the mssm i might have to keep the coo’s erchie line handy before shipping you off to to China for trillions.