For some months now, a CQN’er and academic has prepared a project to identify who we, the Celtic support, are in 2014, what our views are, where we come from and how closely our objectives align with the Club.
The project takes the form of a questionnaire, which asks some personal questions, like your political leanings, intentions for the Referendum, faith, education and ethnic heritage. No sign-up is involved and no identifying information is available.
There are also questions on the Offensive Behaviour Act, as well as the Club’s response to Resolution 12, The Green Brigade and the Living Wage.
The objective is to determine why you support Celtic and whether these reasons are being recognised and served.
I know Celtic have held similar surveys in the past but I’m not aware of a recent academic survey into these questions. The survey will close on Friday 26th September and results will be reported thereafter.
As with all surveys, the more people who participate the more reflective the results will be, so please 10 minutes to get involved. You’ll find the survey here.
If you have any questions for the author in relation to the survey please email cqn.survey@orange.fr
Thanks.
Pertaining to the above are allegations made about Aleks Tonev over the weekend.
It’s difficult to see where this one goes if the player says “I didn’t say that” without corroboration either way. Despite this, the allegation is damaging to Celtic, and to the player, so an internal and public reaction is needed to reiterate the values of the club.
Celtic’s induction process should be clear what is and is not acceptable.
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Sorry, that is just wrong.
Just a couple of companies that currently build rigs and support vessels in Scotland now and have orders for the future…
http://www.bifab.co.uk/
http://gegroup.com/
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Catch ye in Oct bud
till later all
I honestly think I might have listened to Ally McCoist too much, to be honest.
Geordie Munro
13:36 on 15 September, 2014
“Sorry Bhoys, rigs used to be built in Scotland however these days most drilling rigs / semi subs are bulit in the far east.”
Frank Ryans,
As you well know there’s far more to drawing up the black stuff than rigs.
It’s a massive industry to many people in Scotland.
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Indeed it is and Ian Wood has encouraged young Scots to become involved, it remains a well paid career with a long term future if one is prepared to travel. Scotland has an enviable list of small to medium sized companies that provides state of the art technical solutions to the Oil industry worldwide. Many innovations currently used in the industry originated in Scotland. This will not change it is my opinion this is the future of the oil industry in Scotland not so much production but provision and manufacture of advanced technologial solutions.
monteblanco
13:48 on 15 September, 2014
Will the survey be used to draw a border through the stadium?
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Aye, with more expensive prices at the food stalls in the North stand!!!
NON-POLITICAL NON REFERENDUM QUESTION
Anybody know what’s the story with the Celtic ticket office snafu?
Davidopoulos
13:47 on
15 September, 2014
I honestly can’t tell you how excited I am for all of this to be over…
Alas, this will probably drag on for some time after Thursday.
So, I honestly can’t tell you how excited I am for Poppygate 2014.
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I cannot fathom why you are not 100% engaged with this discussion mate, it is vital that the YES campaign give us the answers to perfectly reasonable and massively important questions…..eg……..
Joe Filippis Haircut
13:47 on
15 September, 2014
So what rate of tax will we be paying in an Independent Scotland to pay for these services ? What currency will we be useing and what rate will we get against the UK Pound ( is there a chance it will only be 90% meaning millions wiped off peoples savings and property ?).
There are more questions than answers
Frw,
You sounded like my Mrs there. ;)
http://www.heraldscotland.com/business/company-news/shell-vows-to-invest-billions-in-north-sea.24925660
If Shell want more, they know where it is.
Paul,
Good idea, survey completed.
HH
http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/1061/scottish-oil-and-gas-investigation-reveals-new-reserves/
New article today.
Bawsman 13:10 on 15 September, 2014
THOUSANDS of Scot’s will lose their jobs in the Defence and Shipbuilding sectors post yes vote.
STILL no answer from the seperatists as to how they will be re-employed?
That’s a few hours now.
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For over twenty years, I worked in a variety of unemployment benefit offices doling out meagre benefits to the millions of unemployed in the eighties and nineties. Should I have argued against job creation policies to keep me in a job? As it happens, I didn’t.
The over-reliance of what’s left of Scotland’s shipbuilding to defence contracts means that they last remaining shipyards have been junkies to the MOD. The failure to diversify to include commercial ship-building (like they did in Norway) means that ship-building jobs will always be vulnerable. In fact, BAE are already planning to shut down the Govan yard and move what’s left to Scotsoun regardless of the referendum result.
My brother works in Govan so I am awell ware of the anxieties felt by workers in the defence industry. However, we need to remember that at the end of the second world war we turned an economy from one that was primarily designed to support the war effort to one which took advantage of the age of consumerism whilst at the same time built the NHS. What is stop us doing the same thing if and when the country votes for independence?
Bawsman
13:53 on 15 September, 2014
Davidopoulos
13:47 on
15 September, 2014
I honestly can’t tell you how excited I am for all of this to be over…
Alas, this will probably drag on for some time after Thursday.
So, I honestly can’t tell you how excited I am for Poppygate 2014.
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I cannot fathom why you are not 100% engaged with this discussion mate, it is vital that the YES campaign give us the answers to perfectly reasonable and massively important questions…..eg……..
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I’m just dizzy from us all going round in circles over, and over, and over again.
If you are not getting the answers you crave then stop battering your head off that particular brick wall. It must be hurting by now, no?
Moreover, I am not engaged as I have been disenfranchised by my postcode…
DESERTBHOY
Ah now,that is one area in which I rarely come up short.
Admittedly some pubs have had to install payment facilities in the toilets and smoking areas as I can usually be found there when it’s my turn.
Taxi drivers now employ pub bouncers as collection agents as I bound ruthlessly first through the doors.
Then hold them open for my friends like the gentleman I am….
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers – I hear Swindon makes Airdrie look like Las Vegas. (thumbsup)
vmhan – If I said something to please you can I take it back.
Too late! I’ve already posted your Philvis tie and blazer badge, and signed you up for my monthly newsletter, “The People’s Thumb”. (thumbsup)
phyllis dietrichson – for the question about what aspects of Celtic are important to me I put a 1 for most relevant. (thumbsup)
m6bhoy
13:57 on
15 September, 2014
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Ask yer brother why Scots yards don’t win contracts mate?
We can’t build things cheaply enough, simple as that, the only work available is UK Navy work.
BAE are going to be reorganising the shipyards to build 6 new generation ships, you’ll have more local knowledge than me as to the re-org. If it’s a yes vote, that re-org work will be done on the South Coast.
I’d like to think that this would be the way forward after a YES vote –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5Cn5eHsGo
And as he said 20 years later Fear itself is largely an illusion.
Bawsman
13:53 on
15 September, 2014
In the event of a No note winning on Thursday is it reasonable to assume from your repetitive posts on the subject of job losses via MOD and UK Govt contracts that better together are guaranteeing all jobs provided by the UK Govt in Scotland ? If so can you provide a link to such guarantee
So in a post-referendum YES society, the feeling seems to be that Wee Eck will be getting his jotters (not sure anyone has told him this yet mind!)
The 3 major parties have all been behind the BT initiative, so I guess we can rule out any of THEIR number taking the helm of the good ship Independence.
So, aside from the Green Party (no laughing at the back), can anyone point out which Party and/or individuals are going to amass enough votes at the next Holyrood Elections to form a Government?
Surely some in the YES camp must have some individuals in mind? Anyone?
Or are we just going to stick with the old maxim “if you build it they will come!”?
It is all very well taking bold steps, but to be heading off down this cul-de-sac with no real notion of who is going to coordinate the future goes beyond bold and firmly into the territory of foolhardy.
Re Tonev incident- I watched from the Main Stand Rear BTW- both players went for a loose ball,Tonev won it,Young was a fraction late and caught Tonev on the ankle.The ball went towards the North Stand side of the park,Young followed the ball and ended up about 30 yards from Tonev.At least twice,Young raised his hands up gesturing to Tonev in apologetic fashion ,that he did catch Tonev but it was unintentional.I did not see any acknowledgement from Tonev.The pair were side by side about a minute later,they were talking to each other,suddenly Young reared up,gesturing that he would see Tonev in the tunnel.Only my take on it,very difficult to prove anything.
Snake Plissken
13:57 on 15 September, 2014
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The Devil is in the detail.
“We invest for the next few years!”
“We are just engaged in the normal active portfolio management where we prune ourselves of end of life, late life assets”.
You should also remember that there are a number of fields in Dutch and English waters that come under Shells N-Sea porfollios so a large portion of that spending will be on Dutch and English assests.
I can post a link to an investement web page that actually details why Shell is cutting back on spending in the N sea. But the argument is moot it is an irrefuteable fact the major oil compaines are downsizing production and exploration activies in the N-sea. Oil production is in termainal decline how much the speed of decline can be stalled by new fields and further investment is what is being argued.
I have no axe to grind one way or the other in the independence discussion – but even if there is oil in the Firth of Clyde and even if it did prove to be economically viable to drill – how could anyone guarantee that drilling in the Firth of Clyde would be seen to be environmentally acceptable?
The North Sea is the arse end of nowhere – the Firth of Clyde most definitely isnt.
This seems just another kite to fly with no apparent justification beyond wishful thinking…
Vhman-speedy recovery.HH
Alloa Athletic have become the latest club to sell the naming rights of their stadium scooping a ‘six figure sum’.
Several other clubs have looked at this as an option for raising much needed funds.
One such club assessing this option is the newly formed The Rangers. The franchise, now into their third year could potentially raised millions pursuing the stadium naming rights route…
Eh?
They did what?
Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, whoo hoooooooooo, naw, don’t, ma sides are sore……
philvisreturns
Airdrie’s own Caesar’s Palace.
http://statics.192.com/estreet/original/large/2105/21052900.jpg
JFH 1347
Basic rate of tax – will be the same as it is now, or less, according to the SNP manifesto, higher rate will be higher. Remains to be seen whether that turns out to be the case.
Currency will be sterling – either in a currency union or sterlingisation. Either way, it will be 1:1. Personally, I would prefer our own currency, and that may come in time.
I don’t pretend to have all the answers, and I am pretty sure nobody else does either, including the SNP, but we have to have courage of our convictions and have the determination and courage to ensure that the future – whatever it brings – is in our hands, not in those of the City of London.
HH
Bawsman
14:06 on
15 September, 2014
BAE are going to be reorganising the shipyards to build 6 new generation ships, you’ll have more local knowledge than me as to the re-org. If it’s a yes vote, that re-org work will be done on the South Coast.
Are you responsible for awarding MOD contracts ?
If you are not part of the procurement dept of the MOD, can you provide any evidence to back up your claims of where future MOD contracts will be built if a Yes vote prevails
If its a yes vote on Thursday will all contracts for England Wales and NI be built on the south coast of England, will Wales and NI not get any contracts, will there also be a stop to overseas MOD contracts ? or will the south koreans still build navy vessels ?
i know its a lot of questions but you post so authoritatively on the subject
Ray Singh-Carr
14:09 on
15 September, 2014
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Conservative and Unionist Party seemed to be where most of the Nationalist vote emerged/shifted from, see no reason as to why they wouldn’t return to its natural home.
Frank Ryan’s Whiskey
Post whatever you like.
I don’t believe things are running down or as bad as some people think or say.
If they were truly in terminal decline we’d have been given independence.
From the minute and hour oil was discovered we’ve had people telling us it was going to disappear soon.
There IS oil and gas on the West coast and with Independence by hook or by crook we will get access to it creating jobs with it and change the lives of people on the West coast for the better.
The idea that oil companies won’t want it or will just leave it where it is because of some difficulties that can be over come with effort and endeavor just does not ring true.
I’d rather we got independence and tried to get it and use it, set up an oil fund for however long is left of it and use it to invest as much as possible in the nation’s future before whatever is left is squandered by those same groups who have wasted the last 40 years of it.
lionroars67
14:16 on
15 September, 2014
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“It is feared that a Yes vote could also lead to heavy job losses in Scotland’s shipbuilding and engineering industries.
BAE Systems employs 3,000 highly skilled workers in Scotland and chairman Sir Roger Carr pointed out that since the Second World War the Government has no history of ordering warships from ‘foreign lands’.
He cautioned that independence would make Scotland a foreign country and ‘therefore orders that we currently look forward to are unlikely to be placed’.”
I think Wales, South Coast and NI will qualify.
Tim Malone Will Tell
I’d rather we took the chance on that than got Fracking.
Bawsman
I read mention of words like ‘could’ ‘feared’ ‘unlikely’.
thanks for your efforst though.
conversley an Independent Scotland could like Norway, instead of spend billions as part payment of it’s share of replacing and maintenance of Trident in the UK, use that money to build ships to patrol and protect our sea borders, fishing and oil production.
We ‘could’ you know. in fact I ‘could’ say it is ‘likely’. And I could says I am not ‘fearful’ because of this.
But then I could go and research fact based information if you ‘could’ provide it to me or I ‘could’ provide my opiniion on someone elses opinion.
It’s a funny old game this positive – negative wordsmithery.
MWD says AYE
Mon The Hoops!
13:48 on 15 September, 2014
Frank Ryan’s Whiskey 13:32 on 15 September, 2014
Sorry Bhoys, rigs used to be built in Scotland…
Sorry, that is just wrong.
Just a couple of companies that currently build rigs and support vessels in Scotland now and have orders for the future…
http://www.bifab.co.uk/
http://gegroup.com/
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Not oil rigs that is a Jacket or frame if you will. Totally different beast all together.
PHILVISRETURNS
DOCTORWHATFOR
Swindon,for all its faults,has two redeeming features.
One-it’s miles away from you lot,for which you should be grateful. Otherwise you would have to put up with me more often than you do.
Two-it has marvellous rail links which allow me to go exploring any local sites of interest with a high proportion of pubs.
To be honest,Airdrie canny boast that. Well,certainly not the former.
Ray Singh-Carr
14:09 on
15 September, 2014
You mean like name the next king of Scotland
If the opinion polls showed a lack of support for Dodgy Dave, who would be the next leader of the Con party and likely Prime Minister ? how many predicted Margaret Thatcher as Prime minister, how many predicted Barack Obama as President ? thats Politics that’s democracy
If its a yes vote on Thursday the elections for a new Government are schedule for May 2016, plenty of time to see how the political landscape will be shaped and im sure your obsession with personalities will be satisfied during that time
bmcuw
:-))
Tim Malone Will Tell
I’d rather we took the chance on that than got Fracking.
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That’s a totally illogical argument. Who suggested that you would be getting one or the other?
something called theBelfast Newsletter,
of which I am unfamiliar, but I am glad thy let me know this –
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Rangers fans outside Ibrox Stadium, Glasgow.
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The Scottish independence referendum on Thursday could have ramifications for supporters of one of Scotland’s most identifiable British institutions – Glasgow Rangers Football Club, if a majority plumps to leave the Union.
A popular anthem for the legions at Ibrox Park is Rule Britannia and, proportionally, there are usually more Union Jacks displayed at a Rangers game than one might expect to see at a Royal Trooping of the Colour in London.
British soldiers in Scottish regiments are feted regularly by the Ibrox fans and the Union Jack has prominence on the roof of the famous listed red-bricked grandstand on Edmiston Drive
The Rangers Football Club has been British and true-blue Scottish and proud of it since its foundation in 1872 by a group of young Glasgow sportsmen who included Moses McNeil, whose mother came from Bellshill outside Downpatrick in Co Down.
The Ulster and Northern Ireland connections are deep-rooted at Rangers with tens of thousands of people in this part of the United Kingdom in loyal support of the famous Gers.
Rangers may be experiencing the most traumatic period in its illustrious history, being now in its third season out of the premiership ranks of Scottish football, but the club can still muster 50,000 fans for home games and wields considerable influence in the sporting and social fabric of the west of Scotland, and beyond.
Scottish National Party deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon may politically represent in the Scottish Parliament the constituency of Govan – where Rangers Football Club locate, but her influence at Ibrox Park is non-existent.
Officially, Rangers Football Club has not proferred a preference on how people should vote in next Thursday’s referendum, but a senior staffer at Ibrox Park told me he fully would agree with the assessment that the vast majority of supporters would be ‘No’ voters.
Current Rangers manager Ally McCoist and predecessor Walter Smith have nailed their colours to the mast by declaring a ‘No’ to independence. And interestingly, so too have Glasgow Celtic legends Billy McNeill, Bertie Auld and Pat Crerand and other famous footballing Scots – David Moyes, Kenny Dalglish and Alan Hansen.
Indeed, several of the Scottish Labour politicians, who are Celtic fans including MPs Jim Murphy, a former Opposition defence spokesman..
This referendum campaign for a ‘No’ vote appears to have crossed the ‘Old Firm’ sectarian divide in the west of Scotland to a large degree, a development confirmed by Daily Record soccer journalist David McCarthy.
But even in the unlikely event of a far-reaching, radical constitution-changing ‘Yes’ vote, David does not expect things will change much among supporters at Ibrox Park in attitudes in the flying of the Union Jack and the display of fervently pro-British sentiments.
“There will probably be more Union Jacks displayed at Ibrox, if there was to be an independent Scotland,,” said David, whose newspaper, a Labour organ, is solidly behind the ‘No’ campaign.
At a recent Rangers game a huge banner was unfurled bearing the telling words: ‘No Thanks’. Glasgow Celtic is a Scottish-based club steeped in an Irish nationalist/Roman Catholic tradition and a great many fans who flock to Parkhead stadium look to the “auld country” for their historical and cultural identity.
If the independent vote is carried, Glasgow Rangers Football Club and true blue supporters would likely be seen, in the new constitutional and political dispensation, as showing allegiance to a foreign country.
Such a scenario would not worry the Ibrox legions who would still proclaim with “Heart and Hand” their Britishness and assertive support for the unionist and loyalist cause.
However, if would be a supreme irony for supporters of Scotland’s two biggest football clubs, looking in separate directions, to propagate an identity that lay outside the confines of a narrow independent nation, no longer part of the United Kingdom
Even in sport, the almost unimaginable consequences of Scotland going independent would be a mould changer.