Yesterday I gave credit to Philippe Clement for his tactics in the final. He’s due some more, for the way he corralled fan opinion away from a loser to a victim mentality. Nice work, Phil.
The suggestion is that referee John Beaton and VAR Alan Muir looked the other way instead of upgrading a Newco foul to a penalty. The incident is a story in three acts
Premier Sports’ main camera showed Act One: Liam Scales fouling Vaclav Cerny just outside the penalty box. The same camera caught Act Three, Liam Scales pulling Cerny’s shirt on the line, and therefore, in the box.
Act Two is another story. The main camera only shows Cerny’s right arm stretch in front of Scales. For the reveal, you need to consult the camera behind the goal, where we see Cerny make contact with Scales jersey as Scales makes contact with his. Scales lost his footing when Cerny made contact.
Those of us in the North Stand saw two players pulling at each other, leaving the referee with the decision of awarding a free kick for Act One, or waving play on.
There is no inquest from Celtic fans over this incident, but had VAR ignored Cerny’s hand on the falling Liam Scales and advised a penalty, this would be the controversy.
I have some sympathy for the media, who were mugged by Clement and almost certainly reviewed only the main camera angle before throwing some kerosene onto the embers.
Unlike TV viewers, post-match journalists and managers, VAR gets to consult an incident from multiple cameras before issuing advice. Controversy is baked into football, but this was not a clear and obvious error and any attempt to portray it as such is plain wrong. Maybe Phil should sit among the Celtic fans in the North Stand, if he’s still in-post the next time the teams meet at Hampden, then we could agree to view things from both angles.
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Monday is in the bag. Act accordingly.
Clement phone overloaded, aye, right ye are.
HH!
Make it SO!
https://news.stv.tv/west-central/search-for-men-three-months-after-incident-at-celtic-champions-league-match?utm_source=app
The timing of this is purely coincidental…..
Beaton cheatin, Clement bleatin and huns greetin.
What a wonderful time to be a Celtic supporter.
To paraphrase Old Lodge Skins, “Thank you God for makin me a TIM.”
HH Bhoys & Ghirls.
The whole hun media brigade stirred up by Clement and the village idiot Boyd just want their thick neanderthal support to ignore the fact that they are no longer (in their eyes) the most successful team ever to set foot on God’s planet.
Loved loser Butland talking about how close they are to beating us…..serial loser talk.
I watched the game on Celtic tv again today. We weren’t that bad and the hun weren’t that good. The Brendan fella will pose them a different question on 2nd January. That’s what he told me anyway.
The last thing I want is for the Huns to actually reflect on what they’re doing wrong and take action to rectify it.
So let’s leave them to their cries of being robbed. Let’s leave them to hoofing balls out from the back every single time.
That’ll do nicely for me.
Great article Paul.
Philippe jumped on it straight away, getting the grievance in first and controlling the subsequent agenda – much like he did with the “different financial league” tosh, prior to the cup final.
Both referee and VAR in agreement therefore there is only manufactured controversy.
Boyd is now the town crier for the Ibrox legions. His outburst reminds me of the McCoist “who are these people?” temper tantrum in 2014 when stripping of titles was on the ‘talk of the steamie’
The clarion call to the hundits in the media is to deflect and lie,as they’ve been told they cant afford to pay him and his crew off.
I tuned in to Radio Clyde last night. Haven’t listened in a long time but felt I would listen to what they had to say about the game. Horrified. It was all about the Cerny penalty. And they were of the opinion it was a nailed on penalty. Human error from Beaton and VAR should have intervened. Rangers robbed. Couldn’t believe it. So biased. Caller after caller wanting the officials sacked, The game replayed etc. Crying their lamps out. Had to turn off before steam came from my ears.
Paul has described in the leading article above exactly what happened. The first contact was outside the box and it was then Beaton gave the foul. Anything after didn’t matter.
As for the game. I gave Clement credit for his tactics. They were spot on and stunted Celtic;s style. Hard press and pounce seems to be the way to play against Celtic now. Over to you Brendan . I certainly expect a different Celtic at Ibrox.
Having said that not many of our players got pass marks from me. Too many still not hitting the standard they did a month or so ago .And this playing out from the back frustrates me in that we take 12-15 passes to reach the opposition third whilst Rangers done the same in 3 or 4 passes.
Rangers supporters will know that Sunday was probably their best chance of beating Celtic and they didn’t. It is the hope that hurts them. I watched the game in a Celtic pub in Belfast. During the penalty shoot out I stood numb neither cheering Celtic’s clinical penalties nor celebrating Kasper’s great save. I always thought we would win the penalty shoot out but was frustrated the game had gone that far.
Another trophy for the Bhoys and a very painful one for the Ibrox hordes to take given we are now Scotland;s most successful club. No wonder they are now playing the victim card. Any straw in a drought.
Warburton , Murty , Caxhinia, Gerrard , Beale and now Clemente . The mindset of the entitled , angry mob infects them and they fall in line out of a sense of self preservation . I excuse Van Bronkhorst from this generalisation as he seemed to be the least hun like and was happy to concentrate on doing his job .
Managers will always question decisions going against their team but Phillipe has turned it into an art form .
bigrailroadblues on 17th December 2024 12:22 pm
I watched the game on Celtic tv again today. We weren’t that bad and the hun weren’t that good. The Brendan fella will pose them a different question on 2nd January. That’s what he told me anyway.
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exactly Johnny bhoy.
Thats 3 times I have watched it all again now. I am fed up with this “celtic are off form” narrative, particularly from Celtic supporters. It extends to identifying which players are “off it” while ignoring anything good that they contribute.
Last 4 weeks or so we are continually told Kyogo, Hatare, Engels, Taylor, McGregor and incredibly Kuhn are off it, not as good as they were, not picking the passes people can see from tv or in the stands, not finishing as well, blah blah blah blah.
And yet, domestically we score 3 goals a game.
Not just tap ins either, but some great individual goals with incredible levels of skill (Daizen yesterday, Kyogo just last week). We score from headers, we score from outside the box, we score with fast breaks, cut backs, precise passes. Our wide forwards (wingers is so last century) are scoring more that the centre, but that is part of the gameplan is it not ? We dont only win big at home, we win away games with spare in the tank, we win at rugby park, tynecastle and pittodrie. On poor pitches, with rotten drainage, during torrential downpours and winds with amber warnings attached.
Meanwhile, teams from Italy, Germany and Croatia couldnt beat us.
Aye, Celtic are not on top form.
But neither are we shite , unwatchable or struggling really.
So waht a team in a cup final actually tried some tactics to compete, the game stats show celtic scored 3. and took the cup home.
Winning is everything, nice performance of game perfection would be nice, but it is not conditional for my support.
And as p67 writes, it is still not a penalty, no matter how much the masonic signalling for help goes on.
As to Janury, the hun might get a result, and they could claim the title of moral champions ………….. fecking eejits.
Ee Aye Addio …………….. We won the Cup 👍
Aye.
Four days of yap. Entirely predictable.
Supremacist horde (new CEO included) expected Inclement to bring home sirloin steak for dinner.
Celtic took the steak (and very juicy and tender it was too).
Horde still needed fed .. so Philippe the loser served them tripe.
Statement FC’s new CEO’s @rse hasn’t warmed his seat before he’s had to request a meeting with the SFA whilst they say on podcasts we can’t continue to maintain a dignified silence????
When pitches are as bad as Sunday, we need to mix it up a bit,and get the ball forward quicker,Idah could start more games due to this….
Have they launched the new Orange kit yet?
PAUL67
What are you on, eh ? Sympathy for the media, gimme a break
KINGLuBO
A wee bird told me KT back in January, hope that’s correct
KINGlUBO
EKBhoy from previous – 100% spot on
Aw Clemente fuq p67 you said aw that on the telly:-)
The clarion call asking the meeja in his post match presser to ‘dig up’ as to why he is greetin today
https://youtu.be/Kliqs2dVZGE?si=zEdvKNRl6u5NBdf0
Not a word on months without any executive
Not a word on their accounts.
Not a word on lack of cash
Not a word on being badly run
Not a word on Barron tribunal being barren.
Symbol of the union and how to do business in it.
Corruption,fraud and cheating old club
Corruption,fraud and cheating new club
But,oh look
A free kick given and they want it ‘dug up’
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Spikeys
Dobyin ‘not a hun’ as his fake moniker JHB it questioned whether AngeP would get a top 6 finish…howd that go?
He had 2 fakes poison ready on updates
We see it,unionist troll
Why a Celtic fan needs so many monikers?
Everythin bout it is fake
The outraged from Oatlands board slaverer just disnae cut it
HH
The hun exec really are (grand) masters at controlling the narrative.
For that reason, nothing further from me on a single foul which was properly dealt with at the time.
Of more interest, is the talk today of the proposed new ‘Unify League’. I’ll admit, my sole concern is what does this mean for Celtic?
How many times have we been here with them crying and moaning after we beat them to deflect from the result?
Too many to count. It’s just what they do to appease their rabid, entitled supporters.
It won’t change the result or have the game replayed. It is just theatre for their gullible fans to keep paying up.
You could set your watch by it tbh. When was the last time we beat them and there wasn’t a controversy kicked off in the aftermath?
I love their pain! 😁👍😂🍀🇮🇪⚽️🇮🇪🍀
Walked into the Victoria Bar after a weeks absence and was greeted by the cry of “penalty to rangers “. Oh, the banter. 😂😂
BADA BING!! on 17TH DECEMBER 2024 1:16 PM
When pitches are as bad as Sunday, we need to mix it up a bit,and get the ball forward quicker,Idah could start more games due to this….
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Think we will see more of Adam , although wee Kyogo does keep the opposition backline 10 yards nearer their own goal. My take is that for the Cup Final we go withe tried and trusted formation and tactics , expect the same at Ipox
“The new European Super League format has been revealed after court ruling
The European Super League is reportedly set to make a return, more than three years after the initial concept dramatically collapsed due to widespread fan backlash. In 2021, plans for the controversial competition were announced, with several Premier League clubs signing on to a proposal that would guarantee entry for the majority of its participants, effectively eliminating the traditional sporting elements of promotion and relegation.
Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Manchester United were believed to be among the clubs driving the plans, but intense pressure from supporters led all English clubs to withdraw from the project. However, it now seems a revised version of the idea is being proposed, with the Super League set to re-emerge under a new name.
According to a report from The Telegraph, the new proposal, now branded as the ‘Unify League,’ has scrapped the concept of automatic qualification. Instead, it aims to introduce a more merit-based structure. Additionally, the league promises to be free to watch as it positions itself as a challenger to the Champions League’s status as Europe’s premier football competition.
Instead, the organisers behind the Unify League, A22 Sports, have proposed an annual qualification system for all four leagues within the competition. A22 Sports is the Madrid-based company originally established to advise the European Super League and is known to have close ties to Real Madrid president Florentino Perez.
The competition would be streamed through a branded “Unified” platform, accessible via an app, using a model similar to Netflix. Subscribers would have the option to watch the games for free with a relatively high level of advertising content or pay for a subscription to eliminate the ads.
The European Super League company and A22 will now seek permission from UEFA to move forward with plans, which they expect to be allowed to do thanks to the December 2023 ruling from the European Courts that stated that UEFA went against EU law with their attempts to stop a breakaway tournament.
The proposal envisions 96 clubs competing, fewer than the 108 currently involved in the group stages of UEFA’s three competitions, including the Champions League. The Unity League champion would emerge from the top two tiers: the Star League and Gold League, each featuring 16 teams split into two groups of eight. Teams would play home-and-away group matches, totaling 14 fixtures. The top two teams from each group would advance to a final eight.
The final stages would feature two-legged quarter-finals, followed by single-leg semi-finals and a final at a neutral venue within the same week. This format would require 18 matches for the winner. The Blue and Union Leagues would follow a similar knockout structure.
Speaking on plans for the Unify League, co-founder of A22 John Hahm stated: “We have listened intently to a broad group of clubs, leagues and fans and with these changes believe we have a lot of support. We are not expecting the public support of clubs at this time, logically that will come following the official recognition of the Unify League.”
Did we not have this crap with the “Alistair Johnston” non penalty last season. If the ref blows the whistle then anything thereafter is irrelevant.
After stage one Beaton stopped for a free kick in a dangerous position. If he curtailed him enthusiasm to give a foul then he may have presented his favourite club with a even better opportunity 😉
Another day past another Orange Blast
We didn’t get a pk the game is fecking done
All the refs are timmys, we need another Madhun
My phone had 700 calls, to tell me of the cheating
As we have to endure another Fenian beating
The boys in blue collected their medals in front of empty stands
Except the 25,000 in the green and white victorious band
Monster Munch Boyd, Fergiehun, clement all lost the plot
As Brendan said,we gave you a chance, but thats yer feckin lot
We didn’t play too badly, just not our usual style
But we are still the best in Scotland by a rather large country mile
Calmac celebrating, looking at them when he took that mighty kick
And then it was up to Kasper, and then Daizen, to leave the hordes all sick
119 trophies, the banners over at Ibrox, quickly tumbled down
As the most successful club is the one across the town
The ribbons placed upon the cup, part one of a season’s goals
Keep them in their place, those whining blue arseholes.
Enjoy this time my Bhoys, It wasn’t all like this
Remember the 90s, and earlier, when the Huns they took the piss
With their EBTs and side contracts, stuffed behind their bed
Until a time, not so long ago, when the patient was declared dead.
The Boys in blue have fallen, but will they have the power to get up
And how many more can they witness, CalMac lift another cup.
Keep it up my Celtic, don’t let the standards fall
Play with style, Play with swagger, cause we are Celtic on the ball.
Hail hail my friends
Sean
Love the hurt. Love it.
Do not forget, we played on a dung heap on Sunday. Obviously, arranged to please the bigots of course.
KINGLuBO
Watched the game in the south stand and never felt they would win even during penalties. As is usual during penalties your mates are saying he will miss etc and they score. Any game going to penalties watching with my bhoys (any competition) you watch who is a likely to miss. Best example was sitting in the Wigmore Bar watching England losing the Euros which was celebrated wildly by a large “Italian” contingent including all the european bar staff.
When their LB Yilmaz went up my immediate reaction was he will miss. The little brush by Engels also distracted him and Kasper telling him ghost stories spooked him. Of course Kasper made sure with a dive for a penalty by a player who should never have been taking one. That’s all down to Clement who is an impostor.
Clement knew the odds of 3/1 were generous and defeat was likely so he had been looking for a get out of jail card for his failure as the game unfolded. The best he could come with was this incident — desperate Dan stuff.
Also watched the game again last night. The worst decision Beaton made was pulling back Callum’s freekick as Kyogo was in. The kick was taken from right spot and ball was stationary and not one hun complained — very similar to Broonie incident ( he was also at hampden on Sunday ) with Craig Thomson. Also CCV got the ball and should never have been booked , the hatred Beaton showed towards him versus Hun players is evident for a blind man to see.
All that said we will need to be able to deal with their combative approach — including overcoming incompetent/cheating officials. Brendan will find a system solution….
Yawn, you can set your watch by this. It happens every time we beat them.
The SMSM love it. It allows them to run stories about “Old Firm violence” and “controversial “ decisions for days after the match.
At Friday’s presser our manager will be asked about “the penalty” continuously by the rags and when they’ve exhausted the topic someone from the BBC will ask him about the “Old Firm violence” and pyros.
Same as it ever was. Rinse and repeat.
B78 from earlier- nothing untoward had happened when I left around 7pm.
boondock saint on 17th December 2024 1:51 pm
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Excellent Sean.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9q748j1yj8o
Two weeks after his Premier League debut, the Covid pandemic began. Anjorin spent lockdown trying to maintain his progress by shaving around 10kg off his weight through a change of diet and running “10 to 12k every day”.
It was a misguided approach by former fitness staff at Cobham, as Anjorin explains: “I ended up completely tearing my quad because I didn’t have any muscle on me.”
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The text above taken from the linked article.
When lockdown began this guy was 18 years old.
Now either an 18 year old is genuinely 10kg overweight or he is not.
If he is – why?
If not – who came up with the lunacy that followed?
Either way, IMHO, this is further proof of the extent to which amateurs and idiots are still embedded like ticks in elite sport.
Arne Engels shares class message after Celtic cup triumph.
Coming into the picture to replace Paulo Bernardo in 71 minutes, Engels laid on a smart cutback to supply Nicolas Kuhn for Celtic’s third goal before converting past Jack Butland during penalties.
Reacting to events at Hampden, the Belgium international took to Instagram to share a special message after his meaningful contribution on the big stage.
Accompanying snaps of him lifting the trophy, he stated: “Amazing feeling to win my first trophy for this beautiful club.”
(Hail Hail 67)
Thanks Blogger GM. I am sure it was bouncing on Sunday. It looked odd yesterday but was maybe just closed.
So far, I havent seen ANY Videos or Pics of Celtic fans causing trouble in the centre city before or after the Cup Final on Sunday,
All I have seen are videos and Pics is HUN Fans rampaging thru Glasgow city centre. IF the BBC or the Scottish media have ANY EVIDENCE of Celtic fans causing trouble, and IF they do have evidence….I am sure that we would have seen it by now ?
Can the BBC and the Media tell me of ANY Rangers Pub being attacked and/or ANY Rangers shops being attacked….like the Celtic Pubs and Celtic shop that were attacked by Hun Hordes ?
IF any Celtic fans are guilty of fighting the Huns fans….I would suggest that ” SELF DEFENCE” was the order of the day IF any Celtic fans were involved in any trouble ?
The Huns also fought with the Cops….is there any evidence of Celtic fans attacking the Cops ?
I would NOT be surprised if the Huns go on the rampage yet again before tonights Glasgow Cup Final….and also when the New Year game is played at Ibrox.
HUN SCUM….Thats why they are called ” THE ANIMALS” ! End of.
HH.
KINGLUBO re: Sympathy for the devil
That would make a good song.