When Duff and Phelps put their initial deadline in place for bidders for Rangers back in March, Celtic Quick News took the view that Craig Whyte was the only show in town and that any successful bid for the company’s assets would have to come from him or his proxy.
We didn’t know who his proxy would be then and we are still not sure – although we could have a pretty good guess.
Place the current SPL and SFA dramas aside for a moment. If a deal is done to allow a Rangers-Newco to apply to play football next season the new ‘owner’ will be a Craig Whyte appointment.
If this unfolds in the days to come, I fully expect the SFA will take a very long time to consider any Fit and Proper questions, and I expect the SPL board will vote 4-1 to allocate a share in the league to the Newco.
Celtic, united with their own fans, and fans of the Gang of 10 clubs stand in one corner. The boards of the Gang of 10 want Rangers-Newco money too much to object. Don’t even count on Newco being subject to the penalties discussed at yesterday’s meeting.
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Robert Tressel
If we Bhoycott away games, it will impact on our results, that’s guaranteed!
I don’t know what the answer is but I don’t want to see Celtics results suffer.
Hail Hail
Roccobhoy
Dontbrattbakkinanger on 1 May, 2012 at 17:25 said:
Hankray- you’re right, I have a completely irrational dislike of hoopslegend A Stokes,
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OMG – I thought it was just me!!!!
Roberttressel – If Celtic do nothing to fight all this then Celtic will lose a massive amount of its supporters. And by fight I mean more than a token vote against the newco nonsense.
The game is finished in Scotland – Rangers have killed it and the lies and cheating is being allowed. There is no point in propping it up and if Celtic do nothing they dont deserve our support.
benjybhoy mul on 1 May, 2012 at 19:59 said:
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Do you have a ‘Just giving’ account thingy?
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No I don’t – how do I go about getting one?
Chick Young is to journalism what Nick Griffin is to male modelling. ;-)
Robert T
We cannot argue illogically.
You or I may not miss the Rangers fixture but it is unarguably a popular fixture. Demand for tickets is high and, however distasteful their bile is, many of our fans are willing to go to Ibrox to provide support to our players in that atmosphere and to tolerate their bile at CP.
I acknowledge that we must do without the Rangers fixture for the sake of financial probity. It will be a sacrifice for many rather than a boon to have to do so but it must be done.
Rangers crimes are too great to be fooled by this “too big to fail” rhetoric.
On a day when the all-powerful Rupert has been publicly and embarrassingly upbraided, the Rangers are small fry and should suffer their fate.
The equation for me remains simple.
Pay back your debts and you can keep your ill gotten gains and re-join civilised society as a repentant thief.
Or foreclose and lose your history. Some new club may take your place and attract your supporters but, unless they pay your debts, they will not, and should not be Rangers.
And black burning shame on any who support the evil equation where they ditch their debts but keep their history.
I suspect that the Celtic board can openly say that they want Rangers to keep going. Kev n Chic should add that they also want them to pay their bills and a whole host of other things.
I get the impression that a lot of collars are geting felt in Scotland these days. The Spl did not allow big cuddly Rangers straight back in. As an earlier blogger said “a charm offensive” is now on and we wait to see who is going to stump up the money. Meanwhile Uriah Heep singlehandedly takes down ledgers and puts ledgers back up on the shelves as the HMRC hurtles towards a decision.
Good post Robert Tressell …….hear hear
having watched the first 15 minutes of the hearts motherwell game…
i reckon jose mourinho will be bricking it to face the claret and amber brazil next season if they get paired with the lanarkshire maestros…
tv deal? the wee teams should be thankful this keech isn’t on after the watershed.
Moonbeams WD. Kano \o/ Neil Celtic FC. We are the Champions. Ignore the WARTS. on 1 May, 2012 at 19:57 said:
Robert Tressell
Even if Dermott Desmond is complicit in the “Save The Hun” campaign?
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I am a Celtic supporter. I cannot see any logic in wanting to hurt Celtic as a way of responding to the cheating of others.
I have no idea if Dermot Desmond is in to saving them. He’s a Billionaire and I know if I met him I would be arguing with him – his wealth puts him off my Christmas card list – but he isn’t Celtic, I can’t hurt Celtic because of him either. He may ‘own’ more of Celtic PLC than the rest of us but he doesn’t ‘own’ Celtic – he doesn’t own the support, he doesn’t own what it means to us.
QUite simply he ain’t part of the equation. I cannot see how damaging Celtic helps. There seems no logic to it.
pintaguinness on 1 May, 2012 at 20:00 said:
Big Nan, fellow Fifer – I agree that Celtic cannot condone boycotts, but on demand from fans, can provide alternative entertainment at Celtic Park and enjoy additional revenue from it
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Would love to see it and would spend my cash to watch but can’t see this as being feasible either, as I said Celtic are part of the club that is the SPL and could not be seen to be doing anything to the detriment of their fellow members. Beamback from Killie while that club is dying from lack of revenue is not something that PL, DD, or NL could be a party to.
That is not to say that they wouldn’t love to see it happen in certain cirucmstances.
Big Nan and others
I am well prepared to believe that Chic and Hugh are wrong in their estimation of the views of PL and our Board.
However, I posed a different question to that.
I asked why PL would remain silent in the face of such blatant misrepresentation?
See if they are ‘the peepil’ how did they manage to get in such a mess?I’m beginning to think they’re not. ;-)
HAVEFUNLAUGHATAHUNcsc
setting free the bears on 1 May, 2012 at 20:03 said:
Robert T
We cannot argue illogically.
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Wisnae really an argument. I’m just asking who’d miss it? I wouldn’t. Yes there is a buzz but as I get older it’s more of an endurance.
I agree totally with the rest of your post. My question was just a bit of a distraction really.
And by the way, talking of logic, the Christians V the Lions used to be a big attraction – should we bring it back?????????
setting free the bears
PL is keeping his council for a reason, unknown as yet.
The media are just towing the party line, they are trying to convince themselfs as much as placating the hoards that everything will be hinky dory.
I must admit to having major doubst the last day or so, but when I stand back and look at things rationally, they are fecked.
The lack of a licence, which if I believe Auldheid won’t be forthcoming, the inevetable court cases that are just around the corner, and jst a couple of things that the panel said on snyde tonight, have made me realise I was wrong to think they will be back anytime soon.
As for PL and his silence, he knows what he is doing, he will talk when the time is right, and give it to them with both barrels, he knows the conquences otherwise.
NegAnon2 on 1 May, 2012 at 20:03 said:
Roberttressel – If Celtic do nothing to fight all this then Celtic will lose a massive amount of its supporters. And by fight I mean more than a token vote against the newco nonsense.
The game is finished in Scotland – Rangers have killed it and the lies and cheating is being allowed. There is no point in propping it up and if Celtic do nothing they dont deserve our support.
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Ok – so what should they do?
Celtic have every right not to be giving the nod to a new SPL club to replace rangers. We’ve, that’s you and me, WE’VE have allegedly been cheated out of MANY MILLIONS of pounds by the dying rangers. What are we suppose to say if that turns out to be the case – oh well, some you win? No chance. Justice is being ran roughshod over by the very people whose respectability it is to ensure that this should never happen.
whatever new football club emerges to take the place of a dead rangers, starting in Div 3 is GETTING OFF VERY VERY LIGHTLY if you ask me.
All together now…
You’re no’ rangers, you’re no’ rangers, you’re no rangers any more!
You’re no rangers any more… :)
Let’s get the flock out of here.
Eric
I have a hunch that much of what Doncaster is saying is kite-flying or coat-trailing if you prefer. He would like to get away with this if he could but he has more than Celtic or their fans to contend with.
The reaction of the Celtic board and the Celtic fans will be known when the problem we face becomes clearer.
The Celtic fans rose to the challenge in 1994 and won the day. I have no doubt that once our task is clear then we will do the same again.
RobertTressell on 1 May, 2012 at 19:44 said:
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You’re on the money.
As used to be said: it’s a microcosm,representative of the macrocosm.
Or: as above,so below.
The ‘system’ is a horrible greed filled bubble,worldwide. It’s wholly corrupt,from top to bottom. And the ordinary person stands no chance against the powers that be. We can only do our best in our own corners of the planet and think globally,but act locally.
!!Bada Bing!! on 1 May, 2012 at 19:24 said:
derbyshirebhoy-Livibhoy posted a good idea ,combined with your own,to cancel on the same day giving the same reason.HH
What I was thinking was that before cancellation we need to engage Sky re their contract intentions.
In the end it would be very difficult for all of us to switch off something that’s our passion but we’ll only know if we have influence if we can establish potential numbers and a cost to Sky if we did withdraw.
We keep hearing how Sky demand 4 Rangers Celtic matches and how the loss of Rangers will affect the contract.
What we don’t know is what Sky’s position would be given a Rangers Newco in the SFL as a scenario.
This would give us an opportunity to test that water. It may also serve to get a message back to such as Doncaster and the gang of 10 that integrity is a serious issue and that the loss of it may have a financial impact too.
What I’d like to suggest is that each person gives me enough details to show Sky that this is a serious concern for all involved and may well result in a serious loss of custom for them.
I’d like each person to give me say their account number (to establish for Sky that I’m not making it up) and the amount paid each month in total and for Sports so that I can assess the effect if only Sports were cancelled though some may want to take the option of cancelling altogether.
Big Nan.
Good point expertly executed.
MWD
Robert T
“And by the way, talking of logic, the Christians V the Lions used to be a big attraction – should we bring it back????????? ”
Well it would be an improvement on Motherwell v Hearts :-)
miki67 on 1 May, 2012 at 20:12 said:
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that’s about it buddy. my moments of gloom are always followed by getting up and getting on with it as best I can.
Keep the Faith
To any misguided Celtic supporter who proclaims that they would miss the Glasgow derby I wouls say that days like Sunday’s 3-0 victory and last seasons humbling of the H*ns are too often cancelled out by games at Ibrox and Hampden and even CP where legitimate Celtic goals/penalty claims are ruled out for obscure reasons and that our bitter rivals are awarded goals/offside decisions/penalty kicks for obscure reasons. Remember the instances of 9 Celts booked (McGeady for his first foul), 3 orderings off, NL sent to the stand and a ton of other injustices that have left us coming away from games fuming and with a bad taste in our mouths.
Glasgow derbies are set up for them to win. We win only by accident which generally involves Celtic having to perform excellently on the day.
Think how the record books should read trophy wise Rangers 54 titles should read about 47 and Celtic’s should read about 50. Now think of the resources they have had down through the years compared to the resources we have had to play with. Celtic are an astonishing club. Our record is absolutely wonderful. We punch above our weight. We don’t need to be held back by a club whom everyone acknowledges has broken the rules (cheated). They should be punished severely – termination of membership/ demotion to Division 3 whatever – but please see the real picture, Celtic do not need them and would thrive without them.
We need the other clubs to step up to the plate and do the right thing. It is their chance to seize the opportunity to improve and fill the void left by the infamous Glasgow Rangers. Their chance to be a healthy, non-toxic, competitive rival to Celtic.
setting free the bears on 1 May, 2012 at 20:14 said:
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LOL
BABASONICOS71 on 1 May, 2012 at 20:07 said:
Yup. Another myth exposed. They never were the people, just a bunch of imposters.
Rule No.1: Never over estimate the average hun.
The masons: Mafia for the mediocre. Now shown to be very true. :)))
Eric
Sftb et al on the day we should have been playing the Hun, let’s all go and watch the young uns play Barca young uns or Derry or similar, make it one of the biggest days on the football calendar.
I missed the game on Sunday don’t want to ever see us play them….. We don’t need them, in fact we need to lose them in order to grow, I hope ye understand my thoughts.
V
Jobo
just in from kids game down in Blantyre reading through the blog and I was going to say exact same thing.
No renewal in yet
Maybe keeping G7x til last
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 1 May, 2012 at 20:14 said:
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Sums up why I wouldn’t miss it myself.
RobertTressell on 1 May, 2012 at 20:17 said:
TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on 1 May, 2012 at 20:14 said:
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Sums up why I wouldn’t miss it myself.
I used to wonder at my Da saying he hated the derby games. as I get older I realise why.
Robert – Celtic need to take a brave pill and state their position publicly – that Rangers have cheated and need punished and that Celtic will fight any move to allow a newco to reenter the SPL.
Celtic should also threaten the SPL and SFA with appealing to UEFA and then request that UEFA help Celtic leave the scottish set up as we believe the position is untenable.
Tell me Robert – why stay silent when we know their intentions? What good is silence?
Anyone would think that Celtic are supportive of letting the huns get off with it all.
Surely that cant be true?
That’s it from me chaps.
Have a good evening. Happy May Day to all.
If you are looking for some mind expansion google the history of May Day as a workers holiday. Interesting.
Vmhan supporting Lenny and his Lions on 1 May, 2012 at 20:16 said:
Correct. They are a major handicap to football in Scotland.
Eric
You dont need to damage Celtic if instead of buying ST and TV subscriptions and merchandise you buy shares with that money instead. In fact it will be an incredible investment. You will be investing in a franchise that does not even need to pay tax and living in an environment where it cannot fail. You will of course have to watch the games on an illegal feed but anyone chastising you for that while self same franchise avoids paying tax needs to go and have a long hard look at themselves.
HH
Agent Craig “Green and” Whyte!! on 1 May, 2012 at 19:32 said:
derbyshirebhoy on 1 May, 2012 at 19:21 said:
Count me in.
Already agreed with Livibhoy earlier about en masse cancellation on the 25th of May.
So I will go with what ever is agreed is the best idea.
Will have a talk with my brother and mates, I’m sure they will also be happy to do so whatever is decided.
Gary Neville bursts ma chop’s anyway ;)
What I was thinking was that before cancellation we need to engage Sky re their contract intentions.
In the end it would be very difficult for all of us to switch off something that’s our passion but we’ll only know if we have influence if we can establish potential numbers and a cost to Sky if we did withdraw.
We keep hearing how Sky demand 4 Rangers Celtic matches and how the loss of Rangers will affect the contract.
What we don’t know is what Sky’s position would be given a Rangers Newco in the SFL as a scenario.
This would give us an opportunity to test that water. It may also serve to get a message back to such as Doncaster and the gang of 10 that integrity is a serious issue and that the loss of it may have a financial impact too.
What I’d like to suggest is that each person gives me enough details to show Sky that this is a serious concern for all involved and may well result in a serious loss of custom for them.
I’d like each person to give me say their account number (to establish for Sky that I’m not making it up) and the amount paid each month in total and for Sports so that I can assess the effect if only Sports were cancelled though some may want to take the option of cancelling altogether.
The Exiled Tim
Your words are re-assuring. I cannot see why our Board would play along with this and make a nonsense of their previous prudence.
But, given that we are proscribed by football regulations from suing the SFA or UEFA for allowing this financial con to be perpetrated, we can only plead for our point of view to be heard.
I hope their silence means that UEFA have given favourable indications of their support for our line but I fear there is a great deal of steam being built up that will see two situations emerge:-
Either rangers newco will be parachuted into the SPL with their history preserved, as a special case.
Or Rangers will seek entry into the SFL at some level and will carry a permanent sense of injustice that others forced them to this end.
What did D.D tell his confidantes and good friends in the press Chick and Shug, the bastions of free speech and impartiality. Did they quote Mr Desmond or were they paraphrasing? Maybe they could be asked how did they come about this knowledge and what exactly was said?
I had desisted from watching the footage of the toilets being wrecked in the hun end on Sunday because I knew what it would contain.
Tonight I watched it.
Horrible, sickening, vile, repugnant, evil bastards. Please, please let their mothership die soon.
Neganon – before I go thanks for the reply. You make a good case. I’ll think about it.