When Duff and Phelps put their initial deadline in place for bidders for Rangers back in March, Celtic Quick News took the view that Craig Whyte was the only show in town and that any successful bid for the company’s assets would have to come from him or his proxy.
We didn’t know who his proxy would be then and we are still not sure – although we could have a pretty good guess.
Place the current SPL and SFA dramas aside for a moment. If a deal is done to allow a Rangers-Newco to apply to play football next season the new ‘owner’ will be a Craig Whyte appointment.
If this unfolds in the days to come, I fully expect the SFA will take a very long time to consider any Fit and Proper questions, and I expect the SPL board will vote 4-1 to allocate a share in the league to the Newco.
Celtic, united with their own fans, and fans of the Gang of 10 clubs stand in one corner. The boards of the Gang of 10 want Rangers-Newco money too much to object. Don’t even count on Newco being subject to the penalties discussed at yesterday’s meeting.
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Was also impressed with Lustig in first half of game against hearts and he too could adapt to that position on right.
I don’t think there is much to choose between the three of them in the advanced role but I think Matthews is the better defensive player.
I think this could be a great formation for us and has adaptability in that Victor can move up to join a 3 man midfield if needed and full backs can drop deeper.
Mort
THE EXILED TIM @ 14.59
Precisely.
With some decent football management they’d be nip and tuck with Celtic as usual, in their first season as a Newco with aid from Thompson Murray Norris et al.
That’s the sickening bit, of any SPL Newco for me.
greenjedi on 1 May, 2012 at 15:00 said:
Sixteen roads to Golgotha
I will not shell out over £600 to watch a league that is rigged and corrupt, in fact i will not shell out 1p to watch a league that is OFFICIALLY rigged and corrupt. What would be the point?
Celtic would better chucking it that play along. we could never ever complain about anything as we signed up for a corrupt league.
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Brilliant matey.
I would rather say they stay we pull out and void our games.
Let’s tell the world why we will not play in a corrupt set-up.
Celtic Football Club should tell the spl or sfa that we are not going to sign up to SKY, then we will see what happens,play hard ball with them.we in my opinion can manage quite well without sky .and as i said previous i am still renewing my season tkt/
oglach
Don’t think there is much difference in O’dea, Dan, Wilson or even loovens.
I think our best centre backs are Mulgrew, Rogne and Wanyama and with Fijout joining in Summer we should be ok in that dept with Wilson still there as cover.
I think Dan and Loovens will leave but if we were getting another centre back, I’d prefer one of a better standard that O’Dea but using Mulgrew as an example, he might come back stronger.
Mort
oglach on 1 May, 2012 at 15:09:
“Darren O’Dea
Irish young player of the year – Surely we must look to keep him. An Irish International on our books and we are looking to punt him. Must be a better option that Wilson or Dan ?”
O’Dea wants to leave and he is not part of the manager’s plans. Best for all if he can find a new club.
Good luck to the boy.
Great idea regarding the en masse cancellation of sky sports and Espn
I don’t think any action against our own club is the answer. It will be so counter productive and do THEIR work for them.
I think we should be looking more at what action can be taken against the SFA/SPL and how we can impact them.
So my question is would we as paying season ticket holders be able to sue the SFA/SPL for breach of contract as they are allowing Rankers to break SFA/SPL rules?
We woiuld obviously need to seek proper legal advice here (there might even be some online now) but surely we as fans, and fans of other clubs in the league, pay our hard earned based on the premise that all teams are treated the same and all teams abide by the rules set by the SFA/SPL. So using that premise then surely there should be some legal recourse if these rules are bent or broken.
I know that one legal action might not be that annoying to them but if 50,000+ individuals sued them then it could become more of a problem to them.
In legal fees alone for them it could cripple them.
Just a thought (call it barin storming if you like.. )!
HH
Bishop B
What is happening with regard to McCoists outrageous outburst the other day? Has he been called up yet before the SFA for bringing the game into disrepute and inciting violent conduct? It has all been a bit quiet in that regard.
p.s. I think we are also waiting on the repercussions for the sectarian singing from the Rangers v Kilmarnock game which is a wee while ago now.
Awe Naw
Apologies if not yourself who advocated the drastic action of resigning ( I am skipping back and forth between CQN and work)
I do not see a plan that will prevent what we expect.
The deed will be done to welcome NewCo and we are probably going to be the lone voice in the wilderness.
If I could think of a strategy that would prevent the NewCo stitch up , that did not harm us ,I would advocate it.
I feel that in the absence of a tangible target many of our support are left with self-immolation as a last resort.
The Onlooker
Hoping our managers response to the sfa’s charges is to refuse to subject himself to a biased organisation for judgement, letting them know he has no intention of accepting any punishment they issue.
Anyone else hearing this date of 11th of May for rangers deal to be done and Newco running out on Sunday 13th of May and they are in SPL next season by default.
UEFA will never stand for it.
HH
“Celtic, united with their own fans, and fans of the Gang of 10 clubs stand in one corner. The boards of the Gang of 10 want Rangers-Newco money too much to object.”
Paul, I’d be interested in knowing how you are so certain that this is the PLC’s position in relation to Zombie Rangers. It is pretty clear that, Doncaster was speaking on behalf of the SPL members last night on Shortbread – if he wasn’t, then dissenting members owe it to their supporters to make their position clear.
While I appreciate that you may be right in that Celtic are “keeping their powder dry”, they have, frankly, a bl**dy nerve asking fans to commit to next season while continuing their vow of silence.
Lawwell is a businessman first and foremost. Therefore, I believe when it is time to vote, sporting integrity will come a poor second to commercial gain and he is gambling that the Celtic support will renew their ST’s first, and by the time the vote on Newco comes along, the money will be in the bank. The support will be angry, but in 12 months when renewals come out again, that anger will have dissipated.
How sure are you, that what you are, seemingly, being told by those inside CP, is anything other than platitudes to keep the fans on board.
Lads look i apoligise if sometimes i come on a bit strong but i don’t mean to i just feel that cheating should be punished and if they won’t do anything about it then we must.
Our club could STOP this and all they have to do is make a statement and tell the world we will not compete in a corrupt league.
I’m passionate about this because this is our future and our kids future and we can’t allow this to happen.
They have cheated our club for years and it must be STOPPED.
The Onlooker
A newco being allowed back in the SPL (over which we have no control) harms us.
Resignation (over which we have total control)harms us!
I’d rather go out on our terms and not those of the bigots as we along with the rest of Scottish Football will die a painful death if it officiallysanctions cheating!
I truly believe McCoist has a good indication of what the future holds and is at the wind up with his comments both today and after the game.
Haven’t posted in ages, last time I did I said it was more important for me how our board reacted to Newco than where they finally ended up. Despite Paul’s assurances, it disturbs me that Celtic have said nothing. Momentum is building for Rangers and there does not seem to be anyone with any voice leading the opposition camp, step forward Celtic? Fans and fans poll’s are of no concern to the SPL / SFA we are noise level.
Someone (Celtic) needs to raise their heads above the parapet and call out for the correct actions. But will they? no chance…………
I was very much a believer in 3rd Division for them, however after Sunday there is a bit of me that say’s I could really live with hammering a crap Rangers 4 times a year for the foreseeable future?
Anyway, don’t think it will matter what anyone allows them to do, legal issues are so complex and elongated, can’t see how they could play anywhere next season.
Season ticket renewal forms completed and sitting in front of me, I’ve sat in the same seat for 28 Seasons (excluding Hampden) at this stage I have no idea if I will post them.
Greenjedi
If we have no team , what do we do at weekends?
I fear Mrs Onlooker has a list of DIY tasks lined up that I have successfully been dodging for years.
The Onlooker
B&Q CSC
Mort
Yeah – agree Matthews looked steadier. Still, Cha gets lots of crosses in (albeit not not very good ones, but he’s in it to win it). Somebody needs to make that position their own with a few stand-out performances.
Good point about Victor, although I thought he was better against Motherwell – could this be because Cha made himself more available as an out-ball?
I remember reading how O’Neill’s 3-5-2 got ditched when Mcleish sussed it with his 4-3-3 team – also didn’t work so well in European games. Whatever – these formations come and go. Think this one suited Celtic (and the shpae really does take you back to the MON days – sans Henrik, alas!)
The Onlooker
We need to wait.
Unfortunately it does look like D&P the SFA and the SPL have been painstakingly conniving.
It is presented to us as there is nothing we can do.
Once something concrete happens we sue all and sundry.
If we dont then Scottish football is not worthwhile supporting ESPECIALLY CELTIC PLC apart from not selling your shares.
HH
My dear,dear,dear,friend.. Allyhuntersgloves
Hiya,pal?
Don’t even think aboot it…
Jist Get those Forms and yer Money..in the Mail!
Fur..
This Celtic Team, is Gonna Be a Loata Fun tae Watch,
Next Season… and many mair tae come..
They are Jist Aboot ready tae Really Gell!
This is No the Time . tae Miss Oot.. oan Lapping up Seeing… The Shape of
CelticFc tae Come!
Kojo
yer pal.. who likes ye aloater.
Still, Laughin’
There’s a wee team down my way,formed and run by a staunch Irish Celt;the team has Celtic in its name and plays in hoops. So, should the scurrilous lot be allowed to waltz back in to the spl I know where I’ll be going to enjoy a bigot-free game. It all takes place in a local league and there will be plenty of Tims there,and the craic will be grand. Sounds good,eh?
It could be so in a Rankers free Glasgow,which is what I assume anyone sane wishes for.
Rangers newco could play with 11 kids and know that they will never fall to lower than 6th in the league. That’s a nice comfort blanket for them and Sky will be pleased too.
No to newco.
No more cheating.
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Neil Lennon: ‘We hope to bring in 3 or 4 quality players. Some players will be leaving, about six, & they have been told.’ (PC)
And I’m sacking Sky after I see us lift the trophy. And I will not be renewing,no matter what. I resent givin’ them money for gobbery.
Next season Channel 67 is getting my dosh. They ask a lot less for a much more friendly commentary an’ all.
So the answer from the so called CQN Celtic supporters at getting back at the SPL/SFA/Diet-huns is to withold money from Celtic effectively destroying the club.
I bet the SPL/SFA/Diet-huns are up in arms at the thought of that.
You go to Celtic Park to watch Celtic. I don’t give a damn what shows up to play us.
bhoycott away games and Hampden by all means but destroying Celtic to make a point against people who have always wanted that?
ffs…
the glorious balance sheet on 1 May, 2012 at 14:54 said:
precisely that
A simple message that we will do all in our power to advance sporting integrity over the proposed financial irregularities supported by the spl.
We will advance this argument with all means at our disposal.
Or something along those lines, would put a lot of people’s minds at rest.
THE EXILED TIM @ 14.59
I posted on the last thread that if newhunco were given a 10pt punishment at the start of the league.
It would only take 4 ‘honest mistakes’ to give Celtic a 12pt punishment.
How hard would this corrupt league try to help newhunco win the league while starting with a 10pt penalty just so they could laugh at Celtic.
The answer to that question, we are seeing it just now.
These are very tough times for Celtic and not just the fan’s.
It was nice to see Calum Murray wasnt his usual pro rankers self on Sunday. But i was stunned that fartley stay on the park for his tackle on Izzi which was a carbon copy of Vics on whiticare and he got a straight red!!.
Kojo,
That’s what my head says to, get them posted. However as someone who paid hard cash (that I didn’t have to begin with) for 2 season tickets ever year, bought shares and suffered through 9 in a row (I can remember saying, that I didn’t think we would see Celtic win the league again in my lifetime – before Fergus came ) I can’t begin to accept that those years of cheating, triumphalism and arrogance will go unpunished, It’s not even the money, It’s the heartache and hurting I endured, for what, ? a bunch of cheats trying every dirty trick in the book to keep on top, and they walk back in? It’s the hurting bit I need to reconcile before I can buy another ticket.
AsonofDan
If we dont sell our shares we are acting no differently from our custodians
HH
Hugo …… Behave yourself ……!!!!
I cancelled sky sports a couple of months back, never had espn.
i’ll be surprised if the SPL don’t vote to let them have our champions league place since, as a startup business they could do with the cash, the way this debate is going.
i don’t understand why prospective orcs buyers don’t just buy up every other SPL club then every time rangers wind up 500 squillion quid in debt they just have a vote to let them back in.
actually, i should watch who hears suggestions like that… it’s not the daftest thing i’ve encountered in this despicable mess.
quick question for anyone who knows. is it “hypothetically” possible that as a result of their SFA sanctions appeal, brer hun could actually have their punishment increased?
NL: ‘We saw the greatest manager in the game having a spat with Roberto Mancini & people enjoyed it. It was Sr Alex showing passion.’ (PC)
NL: ‘If it was me, there’d be two pages in the papers, I’d be singled out & demonised. I don’t think I get a fair deal from the press.’ (PC)
We all know that when comes down to it we will all continueto support Celtic, ie continue to buy season tickets ect.
The thing that we could all do without any difficulty is cancell our subscriptions to Sky/ESPN. There are plenty of streaming sites out there and the quality is getting better all the time, it wouldn’t be to difficult for someone to start a dedicated Celtic steaming site so we could all watch the away games without paying Sky/ESPN.
One of my relations in NZ subscibes to Channel67 and it wouldn’t be hard for him to stream the games via sopcast eg.
Money is the only game in town and only by denying these cretins at the SPL/SFA money, will we make them take note of our concerns.
The thing about our tv deal that has always baffled me is why people in the media etc all spin it as being a great deal? It’s probably 1 of the worst contracts in Europe. Sky/ESPN contribute £16m for live coverage and BBC put in £4m for a highlights package where they show no more than 5min 30secs per game. Now if the highlights can be worth £4 how can you justify only getting a further £16 for all those live games? It just doesn’t make sense.
One other quick question, is Paul suggesting Bill Miller is Craigy Bhoys man? I’m confused……….