The word of the day is anosognosia, def. a deficit of self-awareness.
While discussing his Fit and Proper examination by the SFA, Dave King told the media that “If the level of detail that was applied to me was applied to Craig Whyte then he would never have taken over the club. The club would have had a chance.”
It was Dave King’s job to examine Craig Whyte’s Fit and Proper status, not the SFAs!!! Dave King was on the board which approved Whyte’s takeover. The SFA were not and should not have been involved in determining the suitability of Whyte’s appointment, which was the exclusive responsibility of the Rangers board.
The SFA subsequently sanctioned the club for failing to carry out its duty in this respect.
Let’s look at that quote again and allocate responsibility:
“If the level of detail that was applied to me was applied to Craig Whyte [by me, when it was my job to do so]then he would never have taken over the club. The club would have had a chance.”
There is no Fit and Proper test. Criteria are published to allow clubs to determine the suitability of appointments. Whyte did not meet the suitability required. If anyone on the Rangers board had taken the trouble to check Whyte’s credentials (which they had a fiduciary and SFA obligation to do so), and informed the SFA of their findings, Craig Whyte would have been stopped in his tracks.
A note to my friends in the media:
Guys, ignoring stuff like this is why people said you were compliant with Whyte, Green and Murray. Don’t come back a year from now and say you didn’t know.
Dave King is a gift. You know what he’s going to do, you know how this ends.
As most of you will know, RWE lost his son, Tony Conway, earlier this year to MND. 12 of Tony’s friends are walking 100km tomorrow and Sunday, from London to Brighton. If any CQN’ers are local, they’re looking for moral support more than money, so here’s the route they’re taking. They start on Twickenham Road at 9:40 tomorrow morning, hoping to reach Brighton around 7:00 on Sunday.
Tony appears to have inspired a lot of people, which is a none too shabby legacy.
It’s season ticket Deadline Day!!
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I still don’t see why Whyte would have failed a FPP test – his directors disqualification was spent 4 years prior to the acquisition of the rotting corpse and if the Markets allowed him to be a director, what grounds would the football authorities (or rather, the club) have in barring him?
The guidelines are so vague in this regard that (former) tax fraudsters, etc, are quite easily found fit and proper, so not having a pot to piddle in aside, what objective grounds would there have been for Craigy Bhoy to be barred 4 years ago?
The media also know this but again willfully ignore the undeniable fact that the only thing that could have prevented Whyte taking up his seat in the directors box was the distaste at having a repeated failure of a businessman – or successful asset-stripper, take your pick – climb the marble staircase.
Unfortunately for them, they’d already painted a Mona Lisa atop a sow’s lug of a canvas and therefore could not publicise such distaste (read warning).
SMSM are very happy to peddle this FPP myth, not so much out of helping Dave King via his PR team, but more to cover their own shortcomings – it’s an easy thing to blame someone already convicted in the court of public opinion rather than look in the mirror.
Oh and I disagree, “withholding money”,”damaging the club” is quite a bit more than go on go on and I think you know that.
Canamalar
When you’re asleep?
HH jamesgang
Of course I did, I smile a lot on here even at myself battering my head against the brick wall.
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon
11:22 on
22 May, 2015
Anyone else getting pop up ads from betting companies when opening a new article?
I’ve got the Ad Blocker extension running on Chrome and they are still getting through.
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I have the same problem
Sevco’s finances are the envy of world football…hahaha you ever heard such guff..living on loans month to month….money owed to the 3 bears unsecured..big Mikes owed £5m..was supposed to be sorted by yesterday..no revenue streams as big Mike owns them…Fatso and 5 others still being paid..GSL asking to waive their right to them being paid off..another £1.5m borrowed yesterday..eh why did they need that and GSL not weigh in…15 players out of contract and work needed on the stadium..King promised £50m….eh…£40m….eh £30m…eh…£20m…eh including a share issue…oh aye 4th in the second tier and not enough income to cover costs at home games.. But “our finances are the envy of world football”….he definitely is a GSL of the highest order…
Kikinthenakas
All these ifs and buts ,re some ST’s because of another club is ridiculous,look after our own fans first and with fairness.Wouldn’t happen anywhere else.
jamesgang
11:26 on 22 May, 2015
canamalar
From my perspective the ‘bullying’ to encourage renewal has been less aggressive or persistent than Mrs Doyle with a cup of tea…..
Go on, will you not, go on…….
Your comments were rather more Father Jack in tone. Again IMHO.
IfYouKnowYourFatherTedCSC
HH jamesgang
PS I am not nun. And I have never been a nun. So please don’t react badly towards me!
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Mrs Doyle comment:-)) lol
Bada..,
Apply the same logic to renewing season tickets, don’t let other clubs influence renewing your ST but you might have to give up your seat or pay more if another club are in the SPFL, double standards ?
canamalar
11:28 on 22 May, 2015
Theoriginalsadiesbhoy,
We’ll go back to my initial point, what you actually said was
“Withholding my money” that is not encouraging any one to do anything is it ?
What exactly do you mean by it ?
………..,…
Careless choice of words from me obviously. Just forget I mentioned your name in my post. You’ve obviously got the bit between your teeth on this one. I’ve made my decision.
dirtymac
11:30 on
22 May, 2015
I still don’t see why Whyte would have failed a FPP test – his directors disqualification was spent 4 years prior to the acquisition of the rotting corpse and if the Markets allowed him to be a director, what grounds would the football authorities (or rather, the club) have in barring him?
The guidelines are so vague in this regard that (former) tax fraudsters, etc, are quite easily found fit and proper, so not having a pot to piddle in aside, what objective grounds would there have been for Craigy Bhoy to be barred 4 years ago?
The media also know this but again willfully ignore the undeniable fact that the only thing that could have prevented Whyte taking up his seat in the directors box was the distaste at having a repeated failure of a businessman – or successful asset-stripper, take your pick – climb the marble staircase.
Unfortunately for them, they’d already painted a Mona Lisa atop a sow’s lug of a canvas and therefore could not publicise such distaste (read warning).
SMSM are very happy to peddle this FPP myth, not so much out of helping Dave King via his PR team, but more to cover their own shortcomings – it’s an easy thing to blame someone already convicted in the court of public opinion rather than look in the mirror.
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Totally agree. We have an expectation that the media are duty-bound to examine issues impartially and arrive at fair and rational conclusions. However, their motivation is to sell stuff which is why we will never get anything other than faux controversy in football.
expat_celt,
Not just me then – that’s reassuring n one way as I have ran scans on my laptop and found nothing
canamalar
11:30 on 22 May, 2015
Oh and I disagree, “withholding money”,”damaging the club” is quite a bit more than go on go on and I think you know that.
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I think it’s a valid argument put by one committed Tim to another. In the same way that I can see your point, I agree with it in some ways and concede events may prove you to be right.
I can’t say with absolute certainty. But that’s cos I’m Father Dougal’s less clever wee brother.
HH jamesgang
canamalar
11:39 on 22 May, 2015Bada..,Apply the same logic to renewing season tickets, don’t let other clubs influence renewing your ST but you might have to give up your seat or pay more if another club are in the SPFL, double standards ?
sell our ST’s in the normal manner,if Sevco come up,give them the same area as Aberdeen get,2,300 approx.Wouldn’t it be ironic ,after all the messing about of our own fans,if Sevco boycotted CP ,for whatever reason?
Theoriginalsadiesbhoy,
I respect your decision it just sticks in my craw the language being used, one season without season tickets will do one thing only, it will tell the board to change direction, it will neither damage or destroy the club, if anything it will make the club stronger because it will remind the board who they are responsible to.
I see the Sun is reporting that big Davy “had poured in another £1.5m to swell the coffers.”
Go on big Davy….you’re the man!!!!
Is this the first of April?
Melbourne Mick, from earlier……Ernie Hannigan RIP
He had quite a career and life going by his WIki page-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernie_Hannigan
King has to give a positive spin to the Rangers situation he has to get the huns to buy season tickets and shares in the club.If they get into the SPL next season he will fet his required season ticket sales but the huns have not been to keen on share issues in the past. I dont think the Rangers are as far behind us as they should be and I believe either complacency or complicity is the reason. H.H.
Canamalar
11:46 on
22 May, 2015
Theoriginalsadiesbhoy,
I respect your decision it just sticks in my craw the language being used, one season without season tickets will do one thing only, it will tell the board to change direction, it will neither damage or destroy the club, if anything it will make the club stronger because it will remind the board who they are responsible to.
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Do you expect ticket demand from Celtic fans to fall if the when the huns join the top league?
fet=get.
Did anyone read the article in the Sun today re “Coisty’s” wages?
It’s hilarious!
Considering a number of named sources are pouring money in to swell the coffers surely,the wee fat insidious ginger orangeman’s wages are pin money.
Shurely?
jg,
I’d much rather be completely wrong, which is why I advocate one season being enough, a shot across the bow. Problem being, this season I expect Celtic park to be full of old firm supporters, exactly what the board hoped for, dilute the faithful, lost opportunity.
KIKINTHENAKAS
I beg to differ on your unwarranted assault on the shining bright blue knight,Mr King.
With particular reference to borrowing £1.5m yesterday.
Mr King personally pumped in £1.5m to his clumpany only yesterday.
It’s all here in a Daily Record headline. So it must be true.
‘I’ll invest more than £20million in Rangers says Dave King as he pumps £1.5m into club’
So,put that in yer pipe and smoke it…
I don’t expect there to be a rise in attendances when the zombies get into the SPFL.
There are far more complicated reasons why attendances have dropped. It’s not down to the Old Firm myth.
JAMESGANG
‘I can’t say with absolute certainty. But that’s cos I’m Father Dougal’s less clever wee brother.’
Aye,very funny. You still managed a Doctorate in breeziness.
Soonafter,you discovered spellcheck…
philbhoy-seems Sally was offered a severance deal last week which he refused,so the Lapdogs have been told to get after him.
BMCW
Thank you for your kind reply…unfortunately you are incorrect…according to the esteemed Mr Paul Murray yesterday’s loan/investment from working capital (ie pay the wages) was from the 3 bears..GSL will be putting further money/loan/investment later this week…
As for putting it my pipe n smoking it I think you are confusing me with Oldtim and DD
Respectfully :-)
Kikinthenakas
Philbhoy
11:50 on
22 May, 2015
Did anyone read the article in the Sun today re “Coisty’s” wages?
It’s hilarious!
Considering a number of named sources are pouring money in to swell the coffers surely,the wee fat insidious ginger orangeman’s wages are pin money.
Shurely?
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Leave it out – he does great work for SCIAF!
Or are you starting a fight..? ;-)))
timaloy29,
I expect a rise in numbers, there are plenty who support the old firm, you need to remember the meeja is still the biggest means of info out there, the interweb readership is tiny in comparison.
I would just like to go and support Celtic when I can, no matter who we are playing and no matter who else is playing in our league. No matter what country they are from. I just want to go and support my club when I can.
Noone complains when we play teams from countries who have a crap human rights records or whose teams are continually getting done for match fixing, for example.
Do you just want your Celtic to be perfect in every single way?
I was born and brought up to be a Celtic supporter and still am.
Thanks be to God!
phils up
http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/spoon-fed-stenographers-gratefully-dine-at-the-kings-table/
PHILBHOY
Geez ma paper back,you!
Y’alright,bud? I was worried about you the other night,looking for a fight.
Couldnae fight sleep.
Or mibbe that’s me. But I can fight my way to the bar. So that joooost works for me.
(Speaking of which…)
https://youtu.be/pnYYFsYQB6Y
Three minutes of Henrik to cleanse you from the shenanigans of sly Dave and the lazy laptop loyalists…
Up the Celts
HH
BMCUW
Someone in the office put the paper on my desk opened at that article. It really was hilarious and the hun press are pushing every word as fact.
All fine here thanks.
I’ll drop you an email after Tuesday.
It’s a pity you are not here this weekend, I fancy a bevvy session!
Take care and I’ll be in touch.
That’s to remind me to phone WEEFRATHETIM later….
PAUL67
Apologies.
Canalmar,
I am sure there are some folk who are like that.
But there are other issues that attract people to the pub. We still can’t get served alcohol during the game, any atmosphere is being suppressed by the cops, drink is relatively cheap in the pubs, the quality on the pitch is perceived as being poorer, the weather is miserable, people in Glasgow are still suffering a Tory government, rubbish kick-off times due to TV companies.
I could keep going.
Bobby, I liked the Fourth K! Fools Die was good also.
From american fiction writers I like Joseph Heller- Good As Gold was excellent, Something Happened, Catch 22 also. Kurt Vonnegut is my favourite this now.
“Put that in yer pipe n smoke it!”
That was something I did frequently in 1978/79 when I spent six months in Mexico.
Off oot!
For a smoke.
Nae pipe involved.
HH!!