It was the morning after the night before, at Celtic Park, but the home team still collected three points against Motherwell. The champions did not get out of second gear, and surrendered possession for long period in the second half, but they got the job done without conceding a chance worthy of the name. You get the feeling this squad is pacing itself. You can only climb the mountain so many times.
Jonny Hayes won Man of the Match, largely for his balls into the box. The second goal came from a dangerous Hayes cross between defence and goalkeeper which that Motherwell defender, Richard Tait, felt obliged to intercept, turning the ball into his own net. Jonny sent in an equally good cross a few minutes later, but there were no takers on that occasion.
He was a few weeks shy of his 30th birthday when Brendan Rodgers singed him from Aberdeen: the exact opposite of a ‘Project’, but he is a solid player who did not look out of place in Rome on Thursday night. Cameos at Ibrox and in Rennes earlier this season further demonstrate the £1m spent taking him to Celtic was money well spent.
While Celtic have improved significantly since the early-season 2-5 win at Fir Park, so have Motherwell. I liked the way they knocked the ball around and it was noted to me that the thuggish element, which characterised much of their play in past seasons, was gone. I hope Steve Robinson is does not end up wasting his talent at Tynecastle.
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Yogi
Could you copy and paste that article?
Hot Smoked,
This is the best I can manage.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/armed-forces-charities-sit-on-reserves-of-275-million-5r9dgb0gt
Britain’s ten biggest military charities have combined assets of £1.4 billion and reserves of £275 million, prompting concerns that some may be “hoarding” cash.
An analysis by The Times has revealed that Britain’s 1,500 armed forces charities have a total worth in excess of £3.1 billion.
Questions have been raised about the amount of unrestricted reserves that some of the biggest charities have built up, as several admit they wish to reduce the amounts they hold.
Such reserves consist of cash that is not designated for a specific purpose or is restricted in how it can be used under the terms in which it was donated.
The Royal British Legion, the wealthiest military charity, began its annual poppy appeal last Thursday. Last year it recorded…
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The Royal British Legion, the wealthiest military charity, recorded a total income of £163.2 million last year. Where does all this money go?
Yes, the number of posts coming on to CQN may be declining, but if we had more posts from this guy…..
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 11TH NOVEMBER 2019 6:16 AM
Seriously who gives a monkeys about the opinion of an old slapper
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…then the chances are we would see the decline arrested. This guy is an expert at winding people up and knows how to get them posting, in fact some might say he’s a genius at it.
Can anyone tell me why there is a red and a white band on the sleeves of the new Scotland football strip – last time I looked there was no red on the saltire.
I’m sure the Scottish government will have something to say.
How many wore a poppy because they were afraid of others’ reactions?
It used to be a simple and dignified ceremony…not now. Too much point scoring nowadays.
My poppy is bigger than yours…big plastic ones on car radiators…and for goodness sake, the Monty Pythonesque one that was taken by the hand and walked in those big black clown boots to the centre-circle in the Tranmere Rovers game…
absurd, laughable…….where will it end.
(Harry Leslie Smith, a 92-year-old World War Two RAF veteran, has not worn a poppy since 2013 because he believes “the spirit of my generation has been hijacked” by latter-day politicians to “sell dubious wars” in Afghanistan and Iraq.)…from bbc
Gene – this is often explained away as the ‘Red’ from the lion in the lion rampant – so why don’t we have a nice red and gold strip?
Looks like another nod in the direction of the blue pound – late fifties early sixties you could hardly tell the difference between a Scotland strip and a Rankers rag, even had the red tops to the socks. They can’t help it.
Yogi from last page – my grandmother was refused support by the Haig fund post war – was told that as she was RC she should go to the church for help. My mother, as a child was present when this happened (in Greenock), this happened to all Catholic applicants at that place and time. I have discussed this and am fobbed off with the whitewash that this was a rogue bigot in one location – I’m not so sure.
Three of my Granny’s sons served in WW2, one was lost in the Arnhem campaign, the other two struggled for work on their return and suffered the discrimination we are all familiar with in the shipyards.
I remember them with love and respect. I don’t need a hijacked symbol – which was revived when Blair needed a bit of jingoism after his decision to go to war in Iraq 2003) – that was the origin of ‘wear it early, wear it big’ trend.
Jinkyredstar,
Very interesting. My father, God rest him, never mentioned the Catholic angle – although I’ve no doubt it happened – but always said that the officers had no problem getting help, even though they did not need it. Also as a result, father and his oldest brother became conscientious objectors and his brother served time in jail in Greenock. Jimmy Maxton, a Labour MP, spoke up for both at their trial and they were released. My family have never bought/worn a poppy.
JINKYREDSTAR on 11TH NOVEMBER 2019 3:27 PM
my grandmother suffered the same fate.she got a visit and because she had some butter on the table they said she had a stash of money .so no help . how many other families suffered like this.?????
i have often thought about finding out what happened to the oldest son in families that got no money.a life of crime i think just trying to survive.you can be sure it was in all the catholic districts of glasgow and beyond.
My father did Atlantic / Artic Convoys during World War 2 .
When people asked him what it was like he was prone to responding –
“#### that for a game of soldiers. ” .
He didn’t do poppies – but he did give this a twirl around November time –
https://youtu.be/THnu6VETCJE
GENE on 11TH NOVEMBER 2019 3:07 PM
Can anyone tell me why there is a red and a white band on the sleeves of the new Scotland football strip – last time I looked there was no red on the saltire.
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There is a red lion on the Scottish National Team badge and there has been a red trim occasionally on Scotland tops.
It’s an ugly top.
Yogi – interesting Greenock connection.
Favourite Uncle – I can’t confirm if they recurved no help but I did witness a lot of the ‘returned’ suffer broken employment, alcoholism, poor relationships and I’ll health – a lot of these where the ‘men’ whom I knew as a wee boy going to Parkhead in the early sixties.
Those who made it big – worked in the Shipyards as ‘reserved’ through the war – made a bucket for themselves and a future for the friends and family – staunch members of the golf and bowling clubs!
Yogi Hughes
Thanks very much.
J
SoT
What has been the response in Italia re Celtic`s victory and number of supporters? Anything?
I am thinking it might have been seen as an unimportant competition for lazio ( even though they apparently fielded a strong side).
My Special Occasion bottle of Royal Salute has just arrived. Don`t like the name much but the `bottle` really is classy.
My birthday is on the 14th of Decmber but I believe another , possible Special Occasion is the week before that.
HOT SMOKED,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
………………..if you don’t like it, let me know!
Philbhoy :-)))))
As the International Break is upon us, this small part of recorded history — made before The Great Lie was born– makes for a nice wee listen:
https://talksport.com/uncategorized/254985/keevins-latest-troubles-rangers-174248/
Cheerio for now.
All of Times article content on Charities hoarding cash.
Britain’s ten biggest military charities have combined assets of £1.4 billion and reserves of £275 million, prompting concerns that some may be “hoarding” cash.
An analysis by The Times has revealed that Britain’s 1,500 armed forces charities have a total worth in excess of £3.1 billion.
Questions have been raised about the amount of unrestricted reserves that some of the biggest charities have built up, as several admit they wish to reduce the amounts they hold.
Such reserves consist of cash that is not designated for a specific purpose or is restricted in how it can be used under the terms in which it was donated.
The Royal British Legion, the wealthiest military charity, began its annual poppy appeal last Thursday. Last year it recorded a total income of £163.2 million and expenditure from unrestricted funds of £136.7 million.
Its reserves totalled £70 million, about 40 per cent of its annual income and sufficient to fund its operations for six months. The charity said in its annual report that this was £30 million above its target of £40 million reserves and that it was looking to reduce it.
Others with significant reserves include the Royal Air Force Benevolent Fund, the fifth largest British military charity, which had an income of £22.5 million last year and expenditure of £25.6 million. At the end of the year it had £37.4 million in unrestricted reserves — 165 per cent of its income.
ABF The Soldiers’ Charity, the eighth largest military charity, recorded income of £17.7 million and expenditure of £22.9 million last year. It had £19.5 million in unrestricted reserves — 110 per cent of its income.
It is five years ago this week since Britain last had regular troops deployed on the ground overseas in a combat mission, which was the end of Operation Herrick in Afghanistan. During this period the total assets of the top ten military charities have increased by 27 per cent.
The Charity Commission is not prescriptive about the best ratio of reserves to income, but it warns that a charity thought to have big reserves may provoke resentment if it seeks more funds.
Iain Overton, executive director of Action on Armed Violence, which seeks to reduce conflict worldwide, said: “Due to recent anniversaries of both world wars, there’s been a significant uptick in donations to military charities, at a time when the number of veterans is declining due to old age.
“The unique status of military charities in public means many are uncomfortable to scrutinise them. Without such scrutiny we could be sleepwalking into a major funding scandal of charities hoarding money.” The charity had an income last year of £156,635, expenditure of £193,666 and £43,315 in reserves — 28 per cent of its income.
Amid concern about homelessness among veterans, for which there is no official data, Mr Overton said there was a strong case for some larger charities to fund groups with niche focuses such as helping ex-troops off the streets.
Hugh Milroy, chief executive of the charity Veterans Aid, said: “I’m shocked and saddened when I see how much money is in charity reserves. I’m at a loss to understand why those with vast reserves seem to attract more money.” His charity had income last year of £2.3 million, expenditure of £1.8 million and general reserves of £915,770 — about 40 per cent of its income.
Nine of the top ten military charities have received grants, from £360,000 to £3,000,000, from fines on banks involved in the Libor-rigging scandal. Libor levies raised £970 million, most of which was given to military causes and the emergency services after 2012.
The vast majority of military charities provide important help for military personnel and veterans and often their families. This can include assistance to those who have suffered physical and mental trauma on the battlefield, initiatives to help veterans into housing, and providing elderly care and dementia nursing. Reserves are designed to help charities to survive instability and to ensure that the public are reassured about their future when thinking about donating. Some charities include property in their reserves.
The creation of the Office for Veterans’ Affairs means that some of this work may soon be done by the state. There were 2.5 million veterans in Britain 2016, of whom half are thought to be above 75, an MoD report said this year. The number of former personnel is expected to fall to 1.6 million by 2028.
The Royal British Legion said that its reserves were in line with most charities of its size. Charles Byrne, its director, said: “Our reserves policy is based on current risks to the charity and does change over time . . . We believe we can bring our reserves down and we have run a deficit budget for the past two years now in order to do so.”
ABF The Soldiers’ Charity said: “As a military benevolent fund [the charity] holds funds on behalf of the nation enabling us to provide support for many decades to come.”
The RAF Benevolent Fund said: “Our board of trustees has agreed a minimum of £30 million in free reserves is required to ensure we [can] look after those members of the RAF Family we support, whatever happens to the fund.”
Additional reporting: Victoria Elms, Miles Hunter
Lot’s of goings on this season, one thing thats slipped under the radar is how much of an upgrade Jullien has been on Boyata. Chris is a much better defender but also has a lot more fight and heart.
Ernie from earlier .
Ah , yes…Christmas/Xmas.
I remember as a new poster, being roundly berated on here for using the latter . I was quite taken aback , having been told that CQN was a site for more intelligent debate.
Flew out to Tenerife from Glasgow this morning. One passenger boarded the plane wearing a black baseball cap with a black hoodie over the top of it. “Ah! Someone wishing to remain incognito.”, thought SadiesBhoy. I give you Ryan Kent. He stood out like a sore thumb.
Years ago Nicky Campbell on Radio 5 Live breakfast show was interviewing an aged veteran on 11 Nov. He asked him if he would be attending the wreath laying ceremonies at Whitehall.
His reply was a bit unexpected, he preferred to remember his “chums who had died quietly, on my own , i don’t attend the cenotaph, it’s just politicians doing show business ”
Campbell couldn’t get him off the air quick enough.
The Onlooker
My dad fought in the war and actually got wounded but thankfully survived . He never bought a poppy because when I was young it was called the “Earl Haig Fund ” . My dad hated that man with a passion, said he was a butcher who sent his men out to get slaughtered and basically could nt care less . He also had no time for the ex soldiers who seemed to glorify war , marching with chest full of medals lapping up the plaudits . He loathed war , said it was horrible , disgusting etc etc . I know some will disagree with his opinion but he was a guy who was there and seen the horrors. As a kid I bought poppies at school at this time of the year ( by then they had dropped the Earl Haig bit ) . I remember it as a time to quietly reflect on innocent lives lost and hope that we would never again go down that path . Fast forward a couple of decades it has been hijacked to become a Rule Brittania hubris sort of thing . So it is not for me anymore . “Harry Lesley” courtesy of “weebobbycollins” earlier post summed it up brilliantly . If my dad was still alive Im sure Harry and my dad would get on well !
HOT SMOKED @ 4 41.
That –
Lazio got what they deserved.Erratic /inattentive/ a tactical mess/ defensively poor/ a comedy of errors at Celtic’s first goal/ /the Berisha ‘pass’for Celtic’s 2nd goal would be unacceptable at Under 17 level..Profligate.Celtic seemed fitter /stronger and much more motivated.A cameo of Lazio’s season to date.Up against a very good Goalie.Grump/Grump /Grump.Probably a blessing in disguise.Squad isn’t good enough for Serie A and Europe.Inzhaghi needs to stop the perpetual rotation.-some of the squad players simply aren’t good enough.
Haven’t seen much comment re the size of the Celtic support but did see a few digs at the alleged state of some of it.
As a Bankie Bhoy………I remember a sedate but significant community expression of sadness for the effects of War borne so brutally by my wee home town around the 11th Nov.
It was a far cry from a Large Plush Poppy waddling to the centre of some decrepit sporting arena.
The Onlooker
Watching, again, Peter Jackson’s “They Shall Not Grow Old” on BBC 2 last night that was the impression given by most of those who had participated in WWI, no glory involved. The hypocrisy then and now over this Imperial bloodbath has no known bounds, and no end in sight, bit like the war at the time. As for the Poppy, hijacked for their own political gain by Bombers Blair, Brown and Cameron , and exploited by Z level celebs and minor Royals. And as for football, exploited then and now, and assailed from all sides for continuing to play after war broke out, and in particular when the jingoism failed around 1915, and conscription introduced, organised around local Committees deciding which families should give more to the Cause. No prizes for guessing which class sacrificed the most. WWI, a malignant influence then and now. Remember yes, Glorify no.
Interesting : It is not well documentated but nevertheless it is true, in Scotland my religion made a disproportionate contrabution to the war effort.
As Celtic vividly pointed out yesterday, we remember the sacrifices made. We do not glorify war.
https://www.euppublishing.com/doi/abs/10.3366/jshs.2017.0201?journalCode=jshs
Getting the pot boiling in the lead up to the seasonal debate.
For me the word is CHRISTMAS ( I even have stickers for my cards saying ‘Put Christ Back into Christmas!’).
XMAS – I can just about tolerate from lazy posters (many of whom probably wear poppies) but
CRIMBO – gives me the raging boak! What an absurd abbreviation for a festival that should be about families getting together in the spirit of love and friendship!
I wouldn’t be surprised if, on the anniversary of their birth, these chanty wrasslers wished each other a Happy B-day!
Hail! Hail!
Terrymac
Big Jimmy, I REACTED to you’re disgusting posts towards Big Packy. no need for it. He is harmless. But youre put me downs were embarrassing. In another life you are a good person but to forward such disgusting attacks against another person is humiliating.
Against me? I couldn’t give a shit.
Right bhoys and ghirls, the emails appear to have dried up as nothing since 5pm. I’m feeling lonely. 3 more hours to cast your votes – cqnpoty@gmail.com
Apologies if this has already been posted. A good article in the Independent on why football has gotten it wrong over the poppy.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/poppy-armistice-day-2019-remembrance-a9198001.html
Phil, whatever your name is. You obviously have the protection of the moderators on here. I wonder why? I critisced Paul 67 for not standing up for RES !2. You went off your head.
I have never heard such disgusting comments on a blog in my life. Poor language. Personal abuse. Homophobic insults etc
The vast majority of the posters on this site are embarresed by you two.
JIMTHETIM53
I seem to remember a couple of personal attacks by you against this blog and PAUL67.
So what makes you any different?
JIMTHETIM53
Name 2?
Do you support Res !2 ?
JIMTHETIM53
Now run back to your friends and tell them you’ve sorted us out.
Oh and gies peace.
CANAMALAR will confirm my name and shares backed Resolution 12.