The umbrella group, Fans Against Criminalisation, issued a statement yesterday (kindly published here by Joe O’Rourke on the Association site) which details a number of events in response to Saturday’s policing on Gallowgate, and the resulting response from the SNP government. Witnesses are invited to give evidence on Saturday (23rd March), with three protests planned next month.
To the relief of all, I’m sure, the statement also records that issues surrounding meetings two organisations had with the Club in November have been resolved.
Our Club and supporters groups are led by the kind of people you would trust with your most precious valuables, as many of us do. They each strive in new and innovative ways to herd cats in the right direction, with remarkable success. The tasks, carried out by hundreds of Celtic fans, of running buses, chasing tickets and navigating the impossible political challenges, is often thankless. I know a few who wonder why they bother.
They bother because they care. The office-bearers dedicate even more time looking after the common interests. There are more Celtic heroes than those who wear the hoops.
I hear Fifa president, Sepp Blatter, has appointed Jeffrey Webb, currently head of CONCACAF, as chief of a newly created Fifa body to fight racism in football. Mr Webb is a director of one of the largest banks in the Cayman Islands, known for its…. unique standards of propriety. Nice.
Quick word for Tommy in Glasgow…. brilliant!
From CQN Magazine:
Watt a goal. Celtic started this season’s European adventure against HJK Helsinki..”
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Bjmac
There are things that groups at a bit of an arms length can say that Celtic cannot because that makes it official club policy whether that policy has been fully developed amongst all parties or not.
Arms length groups whether on the ground ones like the CSA or CST or in the air ones on the Net allow matters to get aired and developed in a way that would not only get Celtic slaughterd but kill developments before they get off the ground.
That does not mean to say channels of communication cannot be improved or new ones developed but even if that happens there are always going to be reasons for Celtic to stay arms length. The trick is getting the balance right and in some cases letting the support know that they are being listened to and action where possible is taking place or why it cannot be.
Celtic clearly are working in a hostile environment in terms of how msm would portray us and maybe we should be more bullish in our approach but the message has to be we are all in this together, we just need to change the perception that there is anything else but one Celtic entity. Work needs to be done on that with Celtic listening and leading.
Gene’s a Bhoys name @12:54 “we can have the auld brigade for the over 50s and the real auld brigade for the over 70s”
Splitter!!
http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/stranraer/218475-stranraer-vice-chairman-no-precedent-for-rangers-in-my-clubs-promotion/ …
Chuckles being put in his place ,again.
Is the Hibs game definitely Saturday 6th April at 3pm?
Should we beat St Mirren & M’well drop points next week then we could clinch the league v Hibs. Would TV not dictate the game is moved?
Dont do Scotland but wee G S has gave me an interest.
We are preparing some updated media stats on CQN and I thought it may be of interest to some…
Figures for CQN Magazine as follows:
Audience re SPL Season 2012-13
March 2013 – issue 14 -115,742 views since Friday 15 March
February 2013 – issue 13 – 722,756 views
Dec12/Jan 13 – issue 12 – 1,119,129 views
November 2012 – issue 11 – 896,057 views
October 2012 – issue 10 – 762,410 views
September 2012 – issue 9 – 631,083 views
Updated figures are available to view at http://www.calameo.com – search for CQN Magazine.
Current edition can be viewed here:
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Figures for http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk
For 30 days up to Thursday 21 March 2013
Unique Visitors – 104,792
Visits – 602,437
Page Views – 2,213,006
Returning Visitors – 88.33%
New Visitors – 11.67%
Audience Location
UK 81.6%
USA 3.67%
Rep. of Ireland 2.92%
Rest of World – 11.81%
Mobile Use Including Tablets
No 332,368 visits – 53.52%
Yes 280,069 visits – 46.48%
Jimmc
I read a tweet earlier that appropriate form has been submitted.
This is about giving the authorities no excuse whatsoever to either wade in or justify the OB Bill because football supporters in protesting about it either break the OB law or any others.
We have to be smart and behave.
gille_ruadh 12:54 on 21 March, 2013
“We all know that SNP have made an arse of this.”
For god sake, Stop your communist party propaganda gille. You’re just stopping short of your granda voted the green party story.
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kin you still sign up fur the auld brigade if you have yir ain teeth and dont wear trainers and a suit
HH
Gille Ruadh
I see one reference to the SNP on Paul’s intro.
It factually references that the SNP Government’s response to the deficiencies in the OB Bill, following the GB aborted march, was to defend their project even more strongly.
I think it is legitimate to criticise such stupidity. I suspect, from your comments, you agree with the criticisn.
However you then seem to find evidence of a stream of pro-Labour propaganda (as opposed to one anti SNP Bill comment) from Paul 67. A history, of which I am unaware as a long standing CQNr.
Your posting name seems relatively new to me. Did someone tell you that Paul was using CQN to spout pro-Labour propaganda or did you find evidence for this yourself that might convince me.
BTW- My Da voted Labour but there is no lecture in that, nor is there shame.
I’m certain that the response from any political party in Govt would have been identical.
Ole Sandaza comes from a long line of Sandaza’s
Winning Captains
Thanks, hugely encouraging.
gille_ruadh
Paul67 anti-SNP jibes do their best to ruin an otherwise amazing blog. Especially so as the jibes involved are of exactly the lazy kind of opinions that turn people off the msm and onto personal blogs like this one.
Gille_Ruadh
12:54 on 21 March, 2013
‘God sake Paul67! Drop the Labour propaganda for once!
We all know that SNP have made an arse of this but stop trying to peddle your Labour agenda by ysing the situation to score petty political points.’
The point is that the legislation, and the way it has been enforced, bears out what many of us feared and predicted about the SNP.
It’s not an aberration on their part, rather it is entirely in keeping with their history, tradition and outlook.
Setting Free the Bears
I’ve been a longstanding frequenter of CQN, I think Ive read every post from 2004. I’ve never registered to post until now.
I’ve just noticed a few comments here and there on various articles that I felt were more to do with the writers political alegences than the subject at hand.
The ‘My Da’ lecture comment is in reference to the stock answer a lot of Labour voters give as justification to their continued support of the party.
South Of Tunis @11:52 last thread they’re obviously not confident enough in their kitchen sink legislation to have it aired outside Scotland and arresting Juve fans would have done just that.
I remember the St Johnstone fans staging an impromptu march in Helsinki. The police gave them an escort and people cheered them on.
I’m sure, having followed the legal debate prior to enactment, that outside Scotland any conviction will be laughed out of court.
Alex Salmond and a large part of the Edinburgh legal and political establishment were so desperate to keep things in-house that they resorted to the most ludicrous arguments in order to stop the criminal appeal process crossing the border to the UK Supreme Court.
For all their bluster much of the Edinburgh legal establishment don’t fancy a straightener with the boys down south.
They also don’t want those London legals encroaching on their their wee fiefdom.
BTW a march along the Gallowgate would in no way affect the already crawling traffic before or after the game.
Ernie Lynch
I’m sorry, but thats crap. The SNP got this wrong because they failed to grasp the root of the problem. The mistook fool hardiness for courage and rushed through a bill not fit for purpose. They trusted the police an continue to do so naïvely but fail to see the Glasgow police in particular may have an agenda.
The anti-Catholic/SNP lines are old Labour mythology designed to scare a community out of changing its voting habits.
Impressive stats winning captains.
Well done everybody.
weeminger
Only one party thought fit to introduce legislation to define Offensive Behaviour, solely at or going to and from Football Matches.
The previous administration had a somewhat pious education programme to combat sectarianism. It did not seek to legislate in the subjective area of Offensiveness. The previous administration will have done many crass things but, in this instance, they showed wisdom and a praiseworthy wariness of being authoritarian, that the SNP did not display.
I limit my criticism of the SNP to two areas only. One, the OB Bill as a piece of authoritarian, Petty Project, Legislation and two, for their small fringe who get caught up in the “sturm und drang” politics of defining national identity (and to be fair that small but vociferous group of SNP supporters is also an embarrassment to Alex Salmond).
Stuff yer fast tracking Stranraer Precedent
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Stranraer vice-chairman Iain Dougan does not believe his club have set a precedent for Rangers and the Scottish Football League to follow for promotion should league reconstruction go ahead.
The Stair Park side finished top of the third tier in 1993/94, the last season before the Scottish Football League expanded from three divisions to four.
Stranraer were then promoted to the second level, therefore moving up one division, with five clubs being relegated from above as part of plans agreed prior to the start of the campaign.
Under proposals to move to a 12-12-18 system, Rangers manager Ally McCoist claimed on Thursday that the Ibrox club would not be promoted and should instead be elevated to the second league of 12.
McCoist said: “I don’t think that is fair, especially when a precedent has been set. Stranraer won the bottom tier in 1994 and were promoted two divisions due to reconstruction.”
However Stranraer vice-chairman Iain Dougan disagrees his club’s example sets the standard for others to follow.
He told STV: “We don’t feel it is the same situation as [in 1993/94]. We were expanding the leagues from three to four divisions, this time we’re slimming the leagues. It is not the same scenario.
“I can see where their [Rangers] supporters are coming from and Mr Green has to do what is best for his football club.
“In theory [in a league of 18] they are not moving any quicker to the SPL, they will still be two years away.
“We are trying to change for the good of Scottish football and you are not going to please everyone.
“We discussed the matter as a board but leapfrogging us wouldn’t be the way forward.”
On Monday, Rangers chief executive Charles Green said he had the backing from the Blues.
He told Rangers’ official website: “There is already a precedent for this situation, established by the SFL at the end of the 1993-94 season when Stranraer, winners of the lowest of three divisions, were promoted to the new second tier on the basis they were champions of their division and merited promotion.
“Indeed, recently the chairman of Stranraer FC referred to the matter and supported the prospect of Rangers being promoted in the event of a 12-12-18 outcome.
“There has been no shortage of voices banging on about sporting integrity over the last year but sporting integrity must cut both ways. Should that be observed during reconstruction discussions then significant benefits would delivered, particularly to clubs in the middle tier who have yet to reap any financial benefit from Rangers playing in lower divisions.”
Three cheers for CQN.
Only members of one party voted for it.
A brilliant example of what I mean was a Radio 5 discussion round about 1996/1997 just about the time when Radio 5 became very lazy. This discussion re: Northern Ireland was an exception in that the audience came was a religious mix with panel members from the 32 counties. The discussion moved onto the economy and the panelist from the loyalist community declared “even if income tax was set at 1% I would have nothing to do with Ireland or Sinn Fein IRA” to which everyone in the audience did the audible equivalent of staring at their shoes. The point I’m making is that lazy opinions do the person making the opinion or their cause no favours.
Gille_Ruadh
13:12 on 21 March, 2013
‘The anti-Catholic/SNP lines are old Labour mythology designed to scare a community out of changing its voting habits.’
When your party finds a Catholic good enough to be included in your cabinet come back and tell us.
K33-the Hibs game is a cert to got moved for TV if we can win the league.Guys planning to book flights etc beware.
It is important that all members of the Auld Brigade think they are still 25.
Think the Auld Brigade should march from somewhere a bit closer to CP, maybe the Celtic Shop in the Car Park.
Count me in.
Paul67
Excellent article………from :
The resident, unrepentent HAPPY CLAPPER…!!!!!!!!
We are a VERY well run, globally respected, Club, and always have been……..and critcism of our Board by any of our supporters is totally unjustified ……we need to be ONE TEAM in the environment we find ourselves……..
The (brilliant) GB just need to ‘box clever’………….if I was 40 years younger I would be right in there amongst them …….and I would be the best singer./ dancer…….hahahahahahahahahaha
This came out 45 mins ago after Stranraer said there was no precedent obviously the internet moves too quickly for slothful Sally
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Rangers: Ally McCoist promotion call over league shake-up
Manager Ally McCoist believes Rangers should be promoted to the second tier, if the 12-12-18 league format is implemented.
Rangers are closing in on the Third Division title and SPL clubs will vote on reconstruction on 15 April.
McCoist told Rangers TV that the club should earn promotion in the event of winning the title.
“Scottish football’s in a sorry state so we have to do what’s best for the benefit of the game,” McCoist said.
“Stranraer won the bottom tier in 1994 and were promoted two divisions due to reconstruction”
Eleven votes are required for a move to a structure of two top leagues of 12, which would split into three leagues of eight midway through the season.
McCoist expressed concern that Rangers may be in the league of 18 despite closing in on the Third Division title.
“In our eyes, if 12-12-18 is implemented and we are in the 18 then I don’t see us getting promotion,” he said.
“The argument would be that we would in the third tier but I don’t buy that because every other team in the league would be getting promotion with us.
“I don’t think that is fair – especially when a precedent has been set. Stranraer won the bottom tier in 1994 and were promoted two divisions due to reconstruction.
“All we have ever wanted is fairness and if the precedent has been set then we imagine that it should be applied again.”
McCoist believes promoting Rangers would benefit the game in Scotland.
“Dunfermline are clearly in trouble just now, Hearts have troubles too and we have obviously had our well-documented problems so we must do something that is mutually beneficial to Scottish football,” he added.
“If moving us into the second 12 means that there will be such a benefit then surely it has to happen
Ernie Lynch
When the number of Orange marches in Glasgow is less than the number in Belfast you can say that Labour have made progress in reducing anti-Catholic sentiment in Glasgow.
Auldheid,
What a level headed response and I do believe that those lines of communication are open and well used.
Glad to see Tommy in Glasgow got a thumbs up, anyway off to my namesake for a couple of weeks, the buds should be on the vine as I stroll through the village, no computers no tv or newspapers just a mobile phone that’s barely turned on, oh yes and Mrs T as well.
Bon Voyage.
HH
Gille Ruadh
“I’ve been a longstanding frequenter of CQN, I think Ive read every post from 2004. I’ve never registered to post until now.”
Welcome aboard! I hope you can comment on some football matters too in future.
“I’ve just noticed a few comments here and there on various articles that I felt were more to do with the writers political alegences than the subject at hand.”
There have been many such comments and I have probably made a few of them, myself. However you specifically accused Paul of posting pro Labour propaganda, not the other posters on here, who exercise their freedom of expression to make either pro-Labour, pro-SNP, pro-Tory (well philvis, anyway) and even pro BNP (Kojo & TSD). Apart from the comments restricted to this stupid bill, can you actually cite any specific anti-SNP comment from Paul. Up until your post, I had not realised that Paul was, if he indeed is, a Labour Party supporter, or a supporter of any party. He seems to have kept that quiet from some of his readers.
“The ‘My Da’ lecture comment is in reference to the stock answer a lot of Labour voters give as justification to their continued support of the party.”
Funnily enough, I have never heard a Labour Party supporter use that line. I have heard that comment many more times, used as a jibe and an apocryphal story, from the mouths of SNP protagonists attributing such views to Labour Party supporters. It is usually accompanied by, “they’d vote a monkey in with a red rosette”. I usually treat it as an example of intolerance expressed by someone who has failed to persuade another of the merits of their position.
K33- just checked Sevco v QP game live on Sunday 7th April (ESPN surprisingly), so hopefully we will still be on the Saturday albeit a lunchtime KO
googybhoy 5 pints and most of these guys think they’re sixteen.
My dad always voted for monkeys in red rosettes.
I would like to be a member of the Auld Brigade, on the basis of, well, I am auld.
Would like to do the march but will need someone tae push ma weelchair.
If that’s ok.
ntassoolla
13:30 on
21 March, 2013
googybhoy 5 pints and most of these guys think they’re sixteen.
…………
Just my type of club. Where do I sign up???