Humiliate your rivals in the Cup Final by putting five goals past them and, if you don’t pay the piper, you pay the consequences. Winning trophies while running up debts you cannot afford to pay is not a viable strategy. The consequences, if you are fortunate enough to survive, has to be painful, otherwise football removes the moral hazard of failure, making Hearts recent experience more likely to happen to other clubs.
Hearts season at the bottom of the Scottish Premiership is the cost of pouring millions of pounds creditors will not receive onto the Hampden Park pitch to hit five goals past a Hibs team, who live within their means. Many other teams were denied progress in the cups, or higher prize money in the league, while the fantasists were building to their 5-1 glory.
Billy Brown’s nonsense about rescinding a punishment for a club who are still in administration is yet another fantasy, but it was fostered in 2012, by the notion that Scottish football can change insolvency rules on the hoof to accommodate a failed club. If you want to change insolvency rules, knock yourself out, but there is near-uniform agreement that you cannot change rules when a favoured club falls foul, in order to benefit them.
This notion that because the rules were not changed to help Newco Rangers into top flight football, Scotland’s reigning Third Division champions would be outraged, is hardly news. The 11 top flight clubs, most of whom appear to be enjoying a competitive ‘Best of the Rest’ league race, and a whole clutch of lower league clubs, would also be outraged if Hearts were advantaged.
In October 2011, when Rangers fate was privately acknowledged, Craig Whyte, Neil Doncaster and SPL chairman, Ralph Topping, discussed this rule change ruse. It should have been a 30 second conversation; declined when first proposed. Instead, Scottish football was put through the real trauma of a fantasy fear of Armageddon. Now everyone who can’t pay their bills think they have the same entitlement to campaign for a rule change – and why shouldn’t they, the tabloids told everyone that changing the rules on the hoof was acceptable.
Hearts fans know this. They are heading for relegation, those I have spoken to have accepted the situation. For them, it’s all about ensuring the club survives and sorting things out for the long term, SPFL results don’t even register. I don’t know any who want to see their club go cap in hand for rule changes, the way Whyte, then Green, did. It’s demeaning and lacks dignity.
This is turning into my favourite domestic season yet. All the ‘They’ve suffered enough’ merchants better get their strategies sorted for the next episode.
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Starry demands to know who are these people??
“Trouble broke out among the crowd during the match at Fir Park last month.
Three 14-year-olds, five 15-year-olds and six 16-year-olds, were reported to the procurator fiscal after a police operation in Lanarkshire.
Police said the males have also been referred to the Children’s Reporter.
The police operation took place during the weekend and it is understood all 14 teenagers are from the Motherwell area.
A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: “Fourteen people are the subject of a report to the Procurator Fiscal and have been referred to the Children’s Reporter in connection with alleged disorder following the Motherwell V Celtic match on Friday December 6 2013.”
Ten other people were reported to the procurator fiscal in connection with alleged disorder last month.”
The couldn’t be infiltrators could they?? I wonder if infiltrators get paid these days??
Tim Tanium
16:00 on 13 January, 2014
‘I also think they should trial it in Scotland first….just like the poll tax!’
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For those who prefer historical accuracy to popular myth it’s worth pointing out that the poll tax was introduced in Scotland earlier than in England at the request of the Scottish Tories who thought it would be to their electoral advantage.
Liberty Valance CSC
ABZMike
15:38 on 13 January, 2014
‘Saint Stivs – I think the tories would be delighted with a ‘Yes’ vote. It would ensure a tory government in England for a generation.’
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Is it not the case that there’s only been one Labour government that relied on Scottish MPs to swing the result?
TheBarcaMole
15:43 on
13 January, 2014
BobbyRussell 15:32 on 13 January, 2014
Kit
same happened to me. Was playing in Pollok some years ago and a fan shot me through the brain, whilst another stabbed me through the heart. Then my legs fell off and I turned blind. Didn`t stop me rattling in the winner in the dying seconds. You should have seen the look on their faces. I couldn`t. A mans game right enough………………….
Bobby, that must have been with the Boy’s Guild in Pollok then, as it sure sounds like a match report from St Robert’s v St Conval’s in the late 60′s/early 70′s…………
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
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TBM – I remember playing for St Convals against St Roberts! late 60s early 70s! HH
johann murdoch 16:57 on 13 January, 2014
TBM – I remember playing for St Convals against St Roberts! late 60s early 70s! HH………
johann murdoch – Conversely; I played for St. Robert’s against St Conval’s late 60′s/early 70′s…………
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
DontPatmadug
16:20 on
13 January, 2014
Saint Stivs
weeminger
If I thought giving her a day in her name would tip the balance in favour
of a Yes vote I could live with that.
We could always call it something else post independence :)
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Free of Thatcher Day ?
Jings….! Crivvens….! Help M’Bhoab….!
SHINPADS…Strictly For The Nancy-Boys
Right….? Right….!
The Green Berets – Provo Privvy, would Alec Salmond take offense ;-)
HH
Which one was that Ernie? Hail Hail Hebcelt
I never had shinpads till after I particular game up the Gibby, I was playing for summer league team, against the Sportbarn.
I used to think I looked gallus with my socks doon bare calfed modelled on Davy Provan.
Started on the left wing, and a team of Spammers on the side line starts giving me verbals.
Not being daft enough to say anthing back I just kept playing , well until their scabby mongrel staffie like dug starting chasing me. ripped my socks, managed to trip me up, and then started chewing on my boots.
Intimidation, players dont know their living nowadays.
Ernie any thoughts on the game yesterday or the team performance? Hail Hail Hebcelt
hebcelt
17:12 on 13 January, 2014
‘Ernie any thoughts on the game yesterday or the team performance? ‘
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Absolutely none at all.
If anything occurs to me you’ll be the first to know.
How’s things in the world of black pudding?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25687140.
Looks like this a goer.
Ernie you disappoint me not one thought at all. Re the world of Stornoway Black Pudding everything seems to be fine in fact some excess capacity. I’d be quite happy to offer you a sample if you like just get in touch. Hail Hail Hebcelt
Hebcelt,
Do you live in Stornoway?
Ernie – Maybe so, but take out the current 58 – 1 reverse by removing the Scottish seats, and it gets a whole lot easier for them. Labour success in the previous 3 elections could be attributed to the false boom… The rise in euro-scepticism could see the tory’s fair for the next few I think – Taking that -60 out of the equation would certainly help.
Jean-Claude Van Damme Lookin’ To Buy The Film Rights….
For ‘The Kitalba Story’….
Tri Rib yes Hail Hail Hebcelt
Thatcher Day.
I’ve heard it all now.
The only thing in Scotland commemorating Thatcher should be a statue in George Sq with a plaque which reads ‘Lest we forget’.
A fitting act in an Independent Scotland or otherwise.
No more FFin’ dignified silence:
“The only way to hurt our enemies is to make them financially suffer on a personal basis. Sue individual journalists for massive damages.”
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“what are graham wallace and the board doing about this.
tomorrow morning he should be on the phone to levy & mcrae organising a defamation case against [Spiers].
lets see how deep [Spiers’] pockets are, because I would love to see us suing him for say 1m pound in damages.
lets see how much of this p*sh he spouts when he gets an interdict of defamation”
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“generally as anglo saxon protestants we are sneered at ,laughed at, ignored and disempowered in todays Scotland.”
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“We are the people. We are immortal.”
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“I’ve also contacted the club via the official website and asked the club to ban this guy and also to contact the BBC and Speirs with threat of legal action for lying about us.”
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“Flood the BBC with complaints, get the club to ban him, issue a statement saying he apologises, admits he’s wrong, or we will seek legal advice as to whether he has intentionally slandered the club live on radio.”
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“We need to fight fire with water – bans when merited, a publicly-stated policy which is credible and opaque, which says we will no longer accept lies and propaganda – and an absolutely unremitting and unwavering committment to it in the teeth of, for example, the sort of snide and Goebels-like conduct we’ve seen from BBC Scotland.”
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” we should just sue the **** – defamation of the club.”
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“Defend, defend, defend. Complain, complain, complain.
Sitting back and feeling superior has led to us being attacked from every quarter for decades.
The results;
we got pumped to the bottom tier, not them
We have a political system that is entirely run by the Sellick minded, not the other way round
our publicly funded schools have a legal system where protestants cannot attain high office in certain parts of a publicly funded educational system, but not the other way round
The football authorities are run entirely by people who hate our club, not the other way round
Referees live in fear of making decisions against [Celtic] FC, not the other way round
The mhedia, and especially the sports department of the TV licence funded national BBC, is absolutely packed with Sellick minded or Rangers haters, not the other way round
We have sat on our collective a*ses for so long that we now have a thousand miles to battle back against their overwhelming positions or superiority in almost every walk of public life. However, even a journey of 1,000 miles starts with a single step.
Get complaining, get defending, get clever” [Spoiled it at the end there Sammy – it’s the other way round.]
hebcelt,
I was reading there it has a population of around 9,000.
A lot more than I would have thought.
How many Tims would there be?
Monaghan1900
17:31 on 13 January, 2014
These peepul quite clearly have sh!t for brains. No other explanation comes to mind.
M1900- A wee gem in there….. “We need to fight fire with water….” that reminds me Vic & Bob are back on tomorrow night..
“We need to fight fire with water – bans when merited, a publicly-stated policy which is credible and opaque,
Now, how fhunny is that?
Bump
GerryBhoy
17:39 on 13 January, 2014
Monaghan1900
17:31 on 13 January, 2014
These peepul quite clearly have sh!t for brains. No other explanation comes to mind.
Can someone tell me what’s upset the hordes his time? Talk of legal action about defamation? Must be something rediculous as usual.
We should be careful to avoid an interdict of defamation.
Monaghan1900
“We are the people. We are immortal.”
How can they lose!!
HighlanderCSC
cadizzy
14:12 on
13 January, 2014
You are correct about Allan McGraw. He was a goal machine for Morton in the sixties and they couldn’t do without him
and we went out and signed Paddy Turner fae the same team ???? although in all fairness tae the club as a Govanite he probably widnae have signed for us, he did sing for linfield though.
…. so much so, that he was cortisone’d up to the hilt on many occasions. Years ago, he was interviewed about it and said that if he had to have another operation on either leg, it would almost certainly mean amputation.
*allegedly the “greatest manager in the world” offered the same advice tae Frank McDougall prior tae a cup final, Frank hardly ewer played again after that and in fact couldn’t even return tae his trade as a scaffolder.
After leaving Morton, he played for Hibs…at left half
*and he ran across tae the jungle side at the start of a game and humphed the wee mhan……as my da would have said “hell scud him”.
starry plough forza oscar
16:46 on 13 January, 2014
The couldn’t be infiltrators could they?? I wonder if infiltrators get paid these days??#
I’ve actually had that same thought since the Dundee game last year. Also thought the same thing with regards to some hoax bombs & gun attacks on Police here in Norn Iron.
hendrix67
17:45 on
13 January, 2014
Can someone tell me what’s upset the hordes his time? Talk of legal action about defamation? Must be something rediculous as usual.
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Apparently Graham Spiers said they died on Radio Scotland the other day – Defamation! Sue him for millions!
The Token Tim
16:08 on
13 January, 2014
Bobby Russel @ 1532,
I did actually laugh out loud at that mate.
However a guy I used to play against regularly and knew fairly well, was actually shot in the head whilst playing a Sat amateur game, a few years ago in Paisley.
*at a reserve game at CP a few years back the deid team had a left back called eric morris who was struck by a slug fired fae the hun end of the stand…this was definitely a case of poor marksmanship as the player running alongside of him was Johnny Doyle…even the media admitted that.
BTW also played against St Convals in Linwood in the mid 60’s. My only memory is of a roundabout and a pub close tae the park.
Monaghan1900
17:54 on 13 January, 2014
Should that not be “mullions”? Fat Salary might enunciate it just so ;-))
Just imagine their wee bitter,ugly, contorted, hun coupons while they type such pure, unadulterated tripe.
Always gurning and complaining and blaming.
Difficult to fathom that such semi-literate and hateful diatribe is,in the year 2014 allowed to be spouted in a western European country.
They are still living in the dark ages.
Dry yer zombie eyes and take that chip off yer hun shoulders.
Boo fkn hoo.
16 roads,
I take it you don’t like the Huns..? Hahahaha
“We anglo sexin pwodastints…”
It begins with F and it ends in F ya idiotic clowns yiz.
GerryBhoy
17:56 on
13 January, 2014
“Mullions – absholootly” Heads as thick as mullions.
TCR – They crack me up mate.
It’s difficult to believe that such neanderthals exist in this day and age.
Their paranoia is incredible.