After they hatched their plan to blackmail Scottish Football League clubs into voting Newco into the First Division, Stewart Regan, Neil Doncaster and David Longmuir might have paused to wonder what reaction they would receive.
You better believe they didn’t anticipate the reaction today from Clyde and Raith Rovers. Rovers chairman, Turnbull Hutton, told BBC Scotland’s Jim Spence, “If we are at the stage of bending rules and accommodating, threatening and blackmailing, we want to give it up.”
“Bending rules… threatening… blackmailing…we want to give it up”.
Hutton went on to suggest heads should roll at the SFL, SFA and SPL. He’s the first from within the football establishment to call for sackings but he’ll not be the last.
An extensive statement by Clyde FC concluded, “The papers include a proposal to allow a Newco to enter the 1st Division. This is contrary to the rules of the SFL and nothing within the papers justifies this proposal.”
Regan, Doncaster and Longmuir will now be contemplating that their bully-boy tactics will fail. SLF clubs will vote against their recommendations and SPL clubs will not stop promotion from the lower leagues based on merit. It looks like abject failure of leadership.
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Hector Avocado –
If you have a smartphone I’d recommend downloading a free app – MyFitnessPal. It’s basically a programme that records your calorie intake (you can scan the barcode of virtually any food) and your calories burned (e.g. 20 minute walking, round of golf, etc). Worked for me – I hit the 13 stone mark over the last Festive Period and yesterday was 11st 4lbs Just in time to look out my Speedos – going on holiday next weekend.
……..ooops!………..Forgot Stoneface……….
Sumdy ask ‘im a question.
Any question.
UEFA and Platini made big mistake on the last day of this Euro tournament. They are the hosts of this final and let last european dictator Lukashenka sitting in the presidential lodge and watching Spain vs. Italy. Shame on UEFA.
We all know that British banks are in a mess. Badly run and lacking in any morals, they operate as a law unto themselves.
But even they won’t touch Charlie Green and Sevco.
Barcabhoy
It has seemed apparent for a while that either Doncaster is a self-interested cretin or that someone is using him as a puppet – either scenario seems unacceptable. However, I suppose that there is always the chance that his actions still represent the wishes of a majority of SPL chairmen who have been backed into a corner by their own fans.
I assume that it is only the SPL clubs who can get rid of him. If there is one area where I would like to see Celtic taking a lead it would be in calling out this clown and forcing a vote of confidence – at least then it might be a bit clearer as to how the land lies.
If Doncaster and his actions truly represent the wishes of a majority of SPL clubs then the game is well and truly broken beyond repair at the top level.
P.S. I am sure that as others have pointed out, it would be good if the ‘nuclear news’ found an outlet sooner rather than later.
Morning CQN
Let’s all laugh at the club formerly known as rangers(IA) ;-)
blantyretim you’ve got mail (be back in ten)
What a mess.
It needn’t have been. There are rules. The football authorities could have followed them, but they have not.
Tim……I think collectively what has been revealed already is suitably nuclear.
However the issue has been directed, diverted and obfuscated by a media more interested in self-preservation and collusion than the facts, (FACT.)
Collectively, the usual culprits have decided that no matter what the revelation, admission or development – the thing they know as ‘ranjurs’ will not be materially dealt with…….
Hence this long running pantomime of stand-in ‘patsy’s’ who are viliefied while the real villain in all this and the mind-set he fomented is facilitated in leaving the ‘dancefloor’ and making for the exit…………
Happy birthday to me. Blue skies over Algarve. Perfect present would be for my grandaughter to take her 1st steps, she is ready but being stubborn. Typical woman!
Hx2
Good morning CHAMPIONS HH.
MM
Happy birthday
Weefra. HH
bankiebhoy1:
I think the real villain, but not alone, was Sir (sic) David Murray.
…………….In any other known Universe what the huns have been found out for doing would have had them, named, shamed and boosted……….
In Scoddland however……………
Kitalba…………there is a lot of merit in what you say.
;)
happy birthday MM
Mick
replied…
BTW, ignore second part of email….(brain still in reverse)
When and how do the SFA deal with Rangers not paying their taxes since Whyte took over?
When and how do the SFA deal with Rangers taking the issue over punishment to the COS?
When and how do the SFA deal with Rangers and the dual contracts?
When and how do the SFA deal with Rangers paying ex-employees through EBT’s years after they have left(sic) the employment of Rangers?
That’ll do for just now.
Hi all
Could l ask anyone who is in contact with Bjmac today
Let him know that l will not make today, wee situation has arisen.
Mickthetic
I think the Lodge is not as powerful as it thought it was. But they are clinging to power like their very lives depended on it.
What is Campbell Ogilvie still doing in a job?
How many more times can Neil Doncaster get it woefully wrong before he gets his jotters?
Why has their been no public attempt to ‘impeach’ Ogilvie?
Who can sack Ogilvie?
Barcabhoy on 1 July, 2012 at 09:09 said:
Completely agree. Doncaster has to go. He has backed himself into a corner with his outright favouritism to Sevco5088fc now. Unfortunately I cant see him resign. Which leaves the only option for removal with the SPL’s The Remuneration and Appointments Committee which
‘Shall consider and make recommendations to the Board on the remuneration of Directors, the appointment of the Non-Executive Director and Chief Executive and shall undertake such further responsibilities as may be delegated, requested or specified in its terms of reference, all as determined by the Board.’
There in lies the rub though. The question that has to be asked is.
Did the SPL Board agree to this plan that Doncaster is behind?
If that is the case they should all be removed for being part of this outrageous plan. The problem though is if the Remuneration and Appointments Committee is made up of the same Directors who sit on the main SPL Board then I can’t see turkey’s voting for christmas.
The whole thing is a mess. Either Doncaster, Regan & Longmuir have all acted as an unholy trinity and have chosen to act as individuals or they have authority from their respective Board’s to come up with this Hail Mary of a plan.
The latter is my own personal belief.
So there in lies the crux of the problem of removing the unholy trinity. They have Board approval. To remove Doncaster (Regan & Longmuir) they have to remove themselves. I dont think it will happen unfortunately.
There may be a light at the end of tunnel though.
Article 71 (iii) to be precise, they should all be sacked using that one.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/mediaassets/doc/ARTICLES%20AS%20AT%2030%20MAY%202012%20%28CLEAN%29.pdf
HH
kitalba on 1 July, 2012 at 10:21 said:
So many questions, so few answers …… The silence is deafening …….. The only good thing to come out of all this is the expression of integrity from Scottish Football Fans ……. Stand up and take a bow…..
Good morning fellow Celts from dry windy North Hampshire
Out on the bike soon loop to Odiham-Alton-Farnham-Odiham 60km for my Global Corporate Challenge steps today that will push my team up a few places :)
Late lunch then Euro final with a wee glass of Chablis
When does servo go into admin ?…Scottish banks, press and currants black-balling them
No future …Byee mr Green …next?
HH
Can someone enlighten me, who the heck are the peewee clique? been seeing it in loads of posts reading back.
Sweet Jesus……the famous Glasgow Rangers in all their glory. Bomber addresses the masses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aFC8Qw7lVU&feature=player_embedded
The more it drags on then the only conclusion you can reach is that some combination of actual corruption and/or blackmail is at the root of not ‘doing the right thing’.
It’s absolutely dreadful that Henry McCleish is being dragged out the closet and being (mis?)quoted in support of saving the huns, despite the various body rule books and the wishes of the paying public. It’s beyond scandalous.
If there is a need for Celtic to go to war on this, then a vote of confidence in Doncaster is a pretty good place to start.
P.S. Despite what others may say, keep cancelling those sky sports subscriptions.
I see Alex Thomson is going after Ogilvie and ‘cronyism’ at the SFA; looking forward to the spotlight being turned fully on that lot.
Can the clubs sack him?
mickthetic on 1 July, 2012 at 10:25 said:
Hi all
Could l ask anyone who is in contact with Bjmac today
Let him know that l will not make today, wee situation has arisen.
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Sent him a txt mate
Hope all ok
HH
M
Campbell Ogilvie is pulling the strings at the SFA.
But someone (or rather some group) is pulling CO’s strings.
First step in getting to the root of the problem is to oust CO.
Can this be done by a vote of no confidence by a majority of the member clubs?
All SFL member clubs are meeting on Tuesday 3rd July.
All SPL clubs are meeting on Wenesday 4th July.
Lets see action!
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed:
Mate there are a lot more questions too; Lots more.
One in particular that annoys me is when are the authorities going to give a decision on punishment for Rangers fans singing proscribed songs at Kilmarnock, and other grounds?
All these issues and more are just buried by the latest scandal, but they are still all pertinent.
2010 Never Again
With salutations to The Battered Bunnet. Repost from yesterday. Respect!
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The Battered Bunnet on 30 June, 2012 at 17:34 said:
“Senior Hampden source tells #c4news cannot see how RFC were allowed to play last season at all. Doesn’t believe they met finance criteria…”
Alex Thomson’s tweets yesterday re ‘senior Hampden source’ casting doubt on Rangers’ eligibility to obtain a Club Licence last year were rather intriguing.
We have by now a clearer picture of the failure of governance at Rangers through the David Murray/ John McClelland/ Alastair Johnston/ Craig Whyte years, albeit we await further definitive details from the judgement of the Tax Tribunal. Essentially, over a period spanning 2 decades, the means that Rangers used to sustain its football operation utterly disregarded the requirements of both corporate governance and football regulation. While the scandal related solely to payments and procedures within Rangers, we could hope that it was contained internally.
However, the revelation that Rangers paid former manager Souness via EBT while he was manager at Blackburn Rovers confirmed for the first time that the scandal had become external. I understand that RangersTaxCase and Alex Thomson have further information on the extent of payments to Souness and also to Walter Smith, and look forward to the details being revealed, but it is now clear that the Rangers ‘toxin’ had leached out of the club by 2001.
The compelling question now is: How far did the toxin spread?
Was it contained within the ‘outer circle’ of former Rangers employees, however inexplicable such payments may appear? Or did it extend beyond that outer circle, and contaminate senior figures in the Game in Scotland. The contamination does not relate solely to payments from Rangers’ offshore trust, but more subtly perhaps, the behaviour of individuals in positions of influence.
We know that Rangers’ Executive Chairman John McClelland was an SPL Board member during the startling ramp up of EBT use from 2003 to 2005, and was himself a beneficiary of the scheme.
We know that Rangers’ Chief Executive Martin Bain was an SPL Board member 2008 to 2011, coinciding with the receipt by Rangers of the HMRC assessments on the EBT scheme, of which he was himself a beneficiary.
We know that current SFA President Campbell Ogilvie was simultaneously an SFA Director and Executive Director and Company Secretary of Rangers, and was a beneficiary of the scheme.
These parallel functions of course present a profound conflict of interest for each man, at once implementing a scam on the Game to disguise a fraud on the Revenue, while owing specific legal duties of care to the Game being scammed.
So far, so shabby.
Thomson’s tweets yesterday indicate a doubt on the part of a ‘senior Hampden source’ that Rangers were eligible to hold a Club Licence last season, thus disqualifying them from participating in European competition, and perhaps Scottish Football too. Is this doubt grounded in a retrospective review of the licence qualifying criteria given what has emerged recently? Or was there a ‘blind eye’ turned by the SFA’s Licensing Committee to information in the public domain at the time of the Licence application? In this respect the ‘Wee Tax Case’ represented a fundamental failure against at least one Licence criterion.
The proposals to the SFL clubs this week make it plain that should the SFA conclude the outstanding Disciplinary issues against Rangers with either suspension or expulsion of Rangers from the SFA (perhaps the only sanctions remaining available to the SFA following Lord Glennie’s Judicial Review) that the Game will face ‘financial meltdown’.
Concurrently, the SPL has adjudged Rangers to have a prima facie case to answer in respect of SPL rule breaches on player registration, the outcome of which will confirm that the club fielded ineligible players in upwards of 400 SPL matches. The only possible disciplinary outcome given such a sustained breach of SPL rules, corrupting the completion as it did from its inception in 1999 to 2011, is expulsion from the SPL.
As a consequence, the SFA, as the authority responsible for implementing FIFA’s Rules on the Registration of Players, will be required to act on these breaches of FIFA rules. Again, expulsion for what amounts to Championship fixing is inevitable.
Curiously, the SFL, this week asking its members to vote to admit the Sevco Rangers club into their top tier, has the same issue given that its League Cup competition featured dozens of ineligible Rangers players through the years, and further claims by Hugh Adam that its ‘Premier Division’ competition during the 1990s was similarly bent through the use of ‘off the books’ payments to players by Rangers.
The scale of it all is breathtaking, and were the rules of the Game to be applied, Rangers FC would be expelled from each Governing body in turn, before we even consider the extraordinary breaches of faith and duties by co-serving Directors.
But according to the SFL/SFA/SPL circular to clubs, “Rangers Terminated or Suspended’ will cause “Financial Meltdown”.
To avoid this meltdown, it is proposed by the Executives of the combined SFL/SFA/SPL that the rules of the Game are not applied to Rangers, and that the clubs effectively rewrite the rule book to permit what remains of the club to compete at the top of the SFL.
In effect, according to the Governing Bodies, the Rules of the Game CANNOT be applied to Rangers or the Game’s finances will ‘meltdown’.
The corollary question this raises is: For how long have the Governing bodies been so unable to apply the Rules of the Game to Rangers? Is this a new epiphany, or a longer standing recognition?
When Rangers submitted their allegedly ineligible application for a Club Licence in 2011, did the SFA recognise that Rangers failing to participate in Europe would cause the club to fail, as it subsequently did? Were the Rules ignored to avoid ‘financial meltdown’ then?
How far did the toxin spread?
Did this recognition extend back to the period following the disintegration of Murray International, hitherto Rangers’ source of continuing funding? Was the season of ‘Honest Mistakes’ some absurd, dutiful reaction to the recognition that should Rangers fail, Scottish Football would melt down?
Was the ineligible status of so many of Rangers’ first team players noticed prior to the SPL’s Inquiry commencing on 5th March? Was it noticed in an Audit as part of the SFA’s Club Licensing process some years ago? Was it noticed by the recent SFA Chief Executive Gordon Smith, who as an Agent had represented players on Rangers’ books through his Directorship of Prostar Management and other Agencies?
Beyond the duplicity of Ogilvie, McClelland and Bain, were Rangers’ irregular practices known to others at the SFA and SPL, others who chose not to address the matter, thus further contaminated the Governing Bodies with the Rangers toxin?
It is heartening that the Liquidators of Rangers plc will be instructed to examine all of the circumstances surrounding the failure of Rangers as a corporate entity. Equally, perhaps the detail contained in the Tax Tribunal judgement will reveal further connections, hitherto unknown.
What is likely to remain hidden from view though, is the full extent to which key influencers at the Governing Bodies were aware of Rangers’ conduct and circumstances, and how this affected their behaviour and their decision making in applying the rules of the Game to that club.
What we can say with certainty now though is that the people holding office at the Governing Bodies are unable or unwilling to apply the Rules of the Game to Rangers, despite the breaches being fundamentally and profoundly corrupt. The SFA and SPL, despite having outstanding disciplinary cases against Rangers that will, in all other circumstances see the club expelled from the Game, are intent to delete the cases provided the SFL clubs accept the Sevco Rangers into the SFL’s top division.
The Rules of the Game cannot be applied to Rangers.
When the rules cannot be applied, the Game itself is broken, and we can say now with some certainty that the Rangers toxin has spread beyond the club, its former employees and Directors of the Governing Bodies, and contaminated the very Game itself. The Office Bearers of the SFA, whose FIFA mandate requires them to “protect and foster the Game” in Scotland, and “protect it from abuses”, have contrived to do the contrary, to the point where the Game is stricken.
It is for this reason that a thorough clear out of the Office Bearers in the Governing Bodies is now a prerequisite to the Game recovering from the poison inflicted upon it by Rangers. The dissolution of the Governing Bodies is perhaps appropriate.
Clear your desk Gentlemen, the bus to ignominy departs shortly.
i wonder what bombshell Alex Thomson is about to drop about cambell ogilvie??
Will the media air his views or simply sweep it away fom public view…
and will the powers in political office and the SFA simply put thier fingers in thier ears,close thier eyes and repeat….’ah canne hear ye ‘ah cannae see ye’ ‘ ah cannae hear ye’ ‘ ah cannae see ye’..AND I WONT TAKE MY SNOUT OUT THE TROUGH ……….AND I WONT REFRAIN FROM HELPING THE DARKSIDE
Mickthetic
I’ve just contacted him.
Hope everything’s ok!
HH
Paul 67, Sanna, et al….. a wee suggestion, if we are printing new badges for the coming season can I put a request in for the following……
“Impeach McCrummoch”
…it has a nice ring to it…………..
………I think it would be a BIG seller.
:)
HH.
When all of this finally comes to a conclusion, and that might take a while, we will need a whole new governance structure in Scottish football. One that is carefully thought out, negotiated with clubs and fit for purpose. One that will allow our game to be governed fairly and transparently.
What is abundantly clear is that the current leaders of our game are not capable of delivering such a governance structure.
“…..GetyirHatsFlagsnscarves here……….
…..IMPEACH McCRUMMOCH……..getyitrhatsflagsn………”
What job is it that Doncaster and Regan offered Longmuir that made him change tack and sign up to this charade and why did he say yes¿
Might be worth tweeting for the twitterati.
HH
Foxy_1888 on 1 July, 2012 at 10:31 said:
”Sweet Jesus……the famous Glasgow Rangers in all their glory. Bomber addresses the masses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aFC8Qw7lVU&feature=player_embedded”
All that’s missing is a whispered voice-over by David Attenborough.
I say this …….we ALL ……
MUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AND I MEAN MUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TAKE 5 MINUTES FROM OUR DAY
AND E-MAIL OUR LOCAL MP’s ASKING FOR A FULL PUBLIC INVESTIGATION (NOT A SFA COORDINATED COVERUP) O EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED REGARDING THIS MESS.
WE THE PUBLIC SUBSIDISE SCOTTISH FOOTBALL AS A TAX PAYER….
WE HAVE ALREADY BE ‘DONE OVER’ BY RANGERS TO THE TUNE OF £MILLIONS…..
NOW THE HEADS OF OUR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION ARE TRYING DESPERATELY TO COVER UP THE BIGGER STORY….
WE THE PUBLIC WANT TO KNOW IF THERE HAS BEEN ANY CORRUPTION IN OUR GAME?
WHY DID RANGERS GET LICENCETO PARTICIPATE IN EUROPE…
WHY DID THEY GET A LICENCE TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR LEAGUE..
WHY IS THE EBT DEBACLE NOT IN PUBLC DOMAIN FOR ALL TO SEE…
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE AT THE SFA?
WHY IS CAMBELL OGILVIE NOT SUSPENDED OR SACKED?
AND YES ! …..I KNOW IM WTRITING IN BLOCK CAPITALS !!
WE NEED TO PULL TOGETHER AS 1 AND WORK TOGETHER!
WE REALLY MUST ! AS THEY ARE IGNORING US AND TRYING TO RID THE DIRTY DEED FROM THE BOOKS
“Many moons ago, on the eve of the Battle for Two Sisters on the Falklands Islands, our troop officer addressed us with the words than 10 Volunteers were better than 100 pressed men. Several hours later Two Sisters had fallen to the guns of 45 Commando Royal Marines despite seemingly impossible odds. It was a story that was reciprocated all over the Falklands that night as the Paras and Scots Guards also recorded famous victories against overwhelming odds. By the end of the campaign there were 5000 British troops on the islands. There were 17000 Argentine Prisoners of War.
Virtuous actions are indeed a consequence of righteous principals…
…Yes Craig Whyte did wrong. But as the Crown Office orders Strathclyde Police to undertake a criminal enquiry into the whole mess, the possibility now exists that Rangers will in fact be victims in all of this.”
From Rankers Media
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I have cut some of this article because it wouldn’t add any value to your life (IMO).
Just wanted to draw your attention to the glorification of war that these people indulge in, surprise, surprise! This is then followed up by the perpetrator is the victim argument which I hear violent men employ all the time in the context of domestic abuse.
They really are loathsome people and, again, like most perpetrators of domestic abuse, have little or no insight into their abusive behaviour.
I repeat, often daily in my job, unless there is acknowledgement of the past behaviour, it is highly likely there will be further abusive incidents, including with new victims.
I’ll be pleased if they have to start at the bottom of SFL3 but I’d rather we got away from the lotta them.
I’m fed up being abused by these thick ass bully boys and their cronies.
They cannae even spell ‘principle’, that’s how important principles are to them!
Have a good day!
HH