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So what did you make of Dave King’s “compete with some of the bigger clubs, particularly Celtic” news conference?

He’s hoping to make a managerial appointment “within a week” which, despite the need to rebuild the squad, is a little ahead of where I expected him to be based on the feedback I know he received from those who were sounded out.

Punters and media seem convinced Warburton will be appointed.  I know nothing about the man, but I’ve assumed Stuart McCall would get the job due to all other candidates having a real job, or better prospects.  As McCall said in his TV interview following his Fir Park capitulation, he knows what is required and has experience at shopping for free transfers in the English lower leagues.  Anyone else is an unnecessary risk so I’m still inclined to think McCall will get it.

A 5% increase in season ticket costs is on the lower end of what I expected, but there’s a subtext with this one (there often is).  A key aim of whoever has been in charge at Ibrox over the last three years is to get season ticket prices back to the level they were when Ticketus “over-invested” (caveat over-investors).

Charles Green planned to do this from the off.  The script was to read: “I’ve saved your club.  Now I’m going to put a £50k p.a. pay cap on and I need you to buy 40,000 season tickets at full price, to ensure we glide up the leagues with ease and arrive in the SPL with money in the bank”.  The players and manager would have had a choice, show you’re here for the badge, not the money, or move on.

But, within a week, King and the Blue Knights wanted the assets off Green.  McCoist and others were mobilised into destabilising Charlie, who was forced to cut prices, over-promise and ultimately under-deliver.

If I was King yesterday, I’d have looked the camera in the eye and told fans “This is your time, your club needs every last one of you to step forward and pay £600 per ticket”.  I’m sure he wanted to do this, but he seemed riddled self-doubt, contrasting starkly with the effusive confidence he radiated before the last EGM.  It made me think of the Woody Allen line, “Confidence is what you have before you understand the problem”.

One thing I am sure of is, if he was about to splash the kind of cash he talked about while trying to remove the old board, he would have put his money on the table and asked fans to do the same.

The trade-off King referred to: the more money fans put in the less he (and other investors) need to put in, is not actually a trade-off at all.  In reality, the more money he puts in now, the more fans will buy season tickets; the less he invests, the less fans will spend.  Momentum, or the lack thereof, is at play.

This matter was King’s biggest failure.  Charles Green and the master, David Murray, knew how to use show-biz to put bums on seats at Ibrox.  Yesterday the stage was set for a bit of showmanship: “Here’s the colour of my money, now roll-up, roll-up, get your tickets before they’re all gone”.  Say it confidently, convince the thousands desperate to be convinced, and you give yourself the best chance of success.

My focus would have been different from King’s too.  Forget about catching Celtic, fans know this is a pipe dream.  What they want most of all is a solvent, top-flight, football team.  Don’t even reference football targets, instead, talk about filling the stadium, paying the bills, building a trading history good enough to earn proper facilities, and never again signing-off an unsustainable business plan.  The fans are Not.  All. Daft.  Educate them the value of living within your means and they would buy into the project.

Talk about catching Celtic with an unsustainable business plan is astonishing, after all these people have come through, simply astonishing.

I could never quite figure how, for years, Rangers directors knew HMRC were contesting their EBTs, knew a legal challenge lay ahead, but made no provisions whatsoever for that challenge.  Win or lose the case, they needed a plan to cope with each scenario.  It turned out they didn’t even have a plan to cope with a partial win.

King’s ‘someone will step in and pay if we over-invest’ outlook on life explains a lot.  It will be for others to judge his contribution to the lives of Rangers Football Clubs, as far as I’m concerned, it’s impossible to overestimate what he’s done to them.  You could say, it’s off the radar!

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  8. RobertTressell on

    Tory – Jesus said many many more things than the one line you quote.

     

     

    He spent his life with the marginalised and raged against the authorities that put those people there. His earliest followers, according to the new testament eschewed wealth and lived as equals. Masons eh?

     

     

    Are you Opus Dei by any chance?

  9. Marrakesh Express on

    2600 standing will do for starters. I think they’ll need to up it 10k by 2018 however . The demand will be big.

     

    The old jungle held about 12k and what an experienced that was, especially on the big occasion. There will be many under 25 who’ve never stood at parkhead and will now want a piece of it.

     

    No doubt the weekly Bundesliga programme has been one of the drivers here.

  11. KevJungle on

    I LOVE the fact that, TonnyDonnelly67 has posted to say that things are going well in Vegas coz, I was worried about his non-posting for a couple of days – Hail Hail

     

     

    Btw…Tony…if ye bump into King Kojo tell him to get his ass back on here.

     

    Hail Hail

  12. BigMike on

    To any out there with doubts, this is a great time to support the Celtic we really have never had it so good. We are the Kingpins of Scotland now, lets keep it that way.

     

     

    God Bless the Celts!

  13. RobertTressell on

    Work time. Have a great day fholks.

     

     

    New away top being revealed today.

     

     

    Looking forward to the reviews. I’m still not sure about the new hoops. But then I’m getting too old to have a valid opinion.

     

     

    I’d have,them playing in flannel jerseys!

  15. KevJungle on

    Jobo

     

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    Yer right mhan….time to get out of the darkened room and embrace what could be a fantastic future – Hail Hail

  21. TBJ says Wee Oscar Knox is in heaven with the angels on

    Logged onto CQN and found much love and happiness

     

     

    What’s the chances of finding similar emotions on zombie media or FF

  22. KevJungle on

    Going away oot to spread the JOY that, Celtic FC…have taken the 1st steps to re-connect with the spirit of the Jungle….it’s gone full-cycle ye know – Hail Hail

     

     

    ……oot. YNWA and lot’s of LOVE.

  25. Hamiltontim on

    To stand or not to stand?

     

    Published on Wednesday 10th June, 2015 by Celtic Trust

     

     

    Good News re the introduction of Safe Standing aka Rail Seating.

     

     

    The Celtic Trust was delighted to hear today that, at long last Celtic had been given the go-ahead to introduce an area in which supporters can stand safely during domestic matches.We congratulate the Club on persisting with this initiative despite the many obstacles put in its way during the negotiations.

     

     

    The proposed system also called Rail seating will comply with UEFA regulations which require all spectators to be seated for European games as it incorporates a seat which can be used during those matches.

     

     

    This initiative was originally proposed by the Trust way back in 2010 when following a meeting at Celtic Park, during which Police raised objections to sections of the Celtic support standing during matches, our then chairperson, Jeanette Findlay, suggested that a feasibility study be carried out on the possibility of re- introducing a standing section at Celtic Park. At the Celtic AGM of 2011 the Trust tabled a resolution on the issue but we were happy to withdraw it as the Club had in fact done a lot of work on the issue and stated that they intended to press ahead with seeking the relevant agreements to allow implementation.

     

     

    It has taken from then until now to achieve this due to many objections and stalling tactics mainly from the police. It is to Celtic’s great credit that they refused to be deterred and continued to press their case. To aid them in this they engaged the services of Dr Steve Frostick an acknowledged expert in the area of public safety. He has worked in Germany where many Clubs have installed the same system proposed for Celtic Park and where fans have been standing safely and successfully for many years. The risk assessment which Dr Frostick carried out and on which he consulted a representative group of fans, established that the form of standing area proposed, is actually much safer that having supporters stand in what is designed to be a seated area.

     

     

    Standing is a choice, and there are those who will chose not to stand. If their seats happen to be in the part of the stadium which is to be given over to standing they will have to be re-located. We have been assured that this will be done sensitively and after consultation so although there will be some who will be inconvenienced the match day experience for all should be enhanced by a large section of the crowd standing and enthusiastically supporting the Hoops.

     

     

     

     

    The Celtic Trust seeks to be a voice for Celtic supporters and to propose and pursue issues of importance to the support. We are always pleased when we find common cause with the Club as on this occasion, and we look forward to watching our team play in the first stadium in Britain, to re-introduce an area where supporters can stand safely and cheer on the Bhoys.

  27. christorey on

    RobertTressell

     

     

     

     

    07:32 on

     

     

    10 June, 2015

     

     

     

     

    Tory – Jesus said many many more things than the one line you quote.

     

     

    He spent his life with the marginalised and raged against the authorities that put those people there. His earliest followers, according to the new testament eschewed wealth and lived as equals. Masons eh?

     

     

    Are you Opus Dei by any chance?

     

     

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    Nope. Wouldn’t have a bar of them, they are quasi masons.

     

     

    I know He said many things, and this is where most of the Proddy “Christians” whom Pope Leo XII called Heretics, get lost by quoting things out of context.

     

    Sure Jesus Christ hung about with all sorts, this was one of the first accusations by the Pharisees and Saducces in their early attempts to to “marginalise” him.

     

     

    Who helped him down from the cross and in whose new tomb was his body laid. Joseph of Arimathea, one of the richest jews in Jerusalem and a Pharisee, who saw the error of his ways.

     

     

    “Pope Francis” is a mason who mistakenly, I’m being kind here, thinks along with a big bunch of Cardinals and lots of Bishops that masonry can be compatible with Catholicism.

     

     

    Why have the 6 “Popes” since Vatican II gone against the 226 Popes before them and 2000 years of Tradition to change the Church?

     

     

    Because They are either under the influence of , or are Masons.

     

     

    That should give you some room for thought, plus the fact that John XXIII, Paul VI and the biggest one of all “Saint John Paul II” were all MSM darlings?

     

     

    All to be eclipsed by Jorgio Bergoglio.

     

     

    Viva cristo rey

  31. Parkheadcumsalford on

    HT,

     

     

    I wonder if the Celtic Trust will now encourage those who stand at the likes of Hampden (and effectively ruin the view of those of us who have to sit) to sit when they are obliged to do so.

  32. timbhoy2 on

    The restricted view around the stadium should have been sorted yrs ago.great views of the park .but and to think the income they are losing.

  33. Taurangabhoy on

    Oan yersel KevJ , good to see you sharing the love. Have a pure magic day. The new jungle , who’d have thunk. It will be something worth seeing with the GB in full swing.

  34. Hamiltontim on

    parkheadcumsalford

     

     

    I’m not sure that they would be in a position to suitably address that issue. Unfortunately, if individuals wish to stand in seated areas it would only be the authorities who could do something about it.

     

     

    You could contact them and ask?

  35. setting free the bears for Res. 12 & Oscar Knox on

    chris torey

     

     

     

    Opus Dei not right wing enough, eh?

     

     

    “Why have the 6 “Popes” since Vatican II gone against the 226 Popes before them and 2000 years of Tradition to change the Church?”

     

     

    Does that 226 include the Popes who ordered the murder of their predecessors (Segius III and Boniface VII)?

     

     

    Some traditions need to be changed.

     

     

    Aff oot to work

  36. jamesgang on

    kevjungle

     

     

    07:38 on 10 June, 2015

     

    I LOVE Pharrell for making me HAPPY – Hail Hail

     

     

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    Kevjungle

     

     

    I have this vision that you’ve been abducted, tied up and someone’s tickling your feet with a feather!

     

     

    And you’ve given me a brill idea. We need to do an homage to the Pharell video with Tims all over the world filming wee clips of ‘I’m Hoopy now….’

     

     

    Right, who is the techie whizz to do this?

     

    And can we get word to the guys in Las Vegas so they can film some clips while they’re out there…..

     

     

    HH jamesgang

  41. Parkheadcumsalford on

    HT,

     

     

    Thanks for the reply. In my experience, it isn’t just individuals who wish to stand. The last time I was at Hampden, a whole section at the front started standing as soon as the game began and forced everybody else to join them. Didn’t enhance the experience one iota. It certainly wasn’t anything like the Jungle, where I spent about 40 years. There you could at least try and move elsewhere.

  42. MickTT on

    Jorgio Bergoglio.

     

     

    I put two quid at 60/1 on him being the next Pope….

     

     

    Viva el Papa

     

     

    Seems to be doing not to bad just now, a lot of which we apparently don’t hear of in this country.

     

     

    Ayrshireis Green and White

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