Celtic’s pillage of Yorkshire’s young talent continued yesterday with the arrival of 20-year-old Dutch player Osaze Urhoghide from Sheffield Wednesday. Osaze is a central defender and arrives a few days after fellow Wednesday graduate, midfielder Liam Shaw.
Sheffield Wednesday are in turmoil. Their most recent published accounts, to June 2019, showed a trading loss of £17m on a turnover of £22.8m – horrendous, but an improvement on the previous year’s trading loss of £23.7m. They sold Hillsborough for £38m during season 2018-19, switched the accounts to a £19m profit, but they are now a club without a stadium-sized asset on the balance sheet.
Since then, a bad situation has gotten considerably worse. Despite being the biggest team in the Championship by some margin, the finished bottom of the table in May; at least one season of third tier football awaits.
In short, Osaze and Liam may read about Celtic’s supposed turmoil last season and kick into the Monty Python Four Yorkshiremen sketch:
“You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’ mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home Peter Lawwell would thrash us to sleep wi’ his belt.” I’m pretty sure that’s how I remember it.
Football is a zero sum game and where one giant club disintegrates, others see opportunity. Young players with talent and options will not stay.
Celtic were able to use the arbitrage permitted to them with not being bound by transfer rules between two FA member clubs. That money, perhaps in the region of £5m a piece for Shaw and Urhoghide, went on wage offers outbidding clubs from England. It’s a rerun of the Dembele deal from four years ago.
I have been saying for years the Championship is the most dysfunctional league in the world. It also causes Scottish Premiership clubs more trouble than any other. Where Wednesday have gone, others will follow. It is a morality tale in the making.
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SCULLYBHOY on 4TH JULY 2021 5:40 PM
Yes, there was an age of imperialism and it shaped the world we live in. Who knew?
You can celebrate it without restraint, you can condemn it without restraint, or you can accept that it happened and try to understand why it happened.
DENIABHOY on 4TH JULY 2021 11:44 AM
Old Tina Turner and Simply the Best on the radio just now.
*Was hame on the first of a few family health emergency’s and on my last day before flying back out on the Sunday morning got up tae go tae Saturday morning Mass, turned the radio on and it was the above noted song, ffs I thought is this an omen.
Went up tae St Kessogs and when the wee Father came tae the “peace be with you” part 2 gentlemen in front of me turned round tae shake my hand, Malky Mackay and Phil O’Donnell RIP, now that’s an omen I thought.
This was the day we ended the dreaded 10, they had been staying up at the Cameron House prior tae the game.
DELANEYS DUNKY on 4TH JULY 2021 4:28 PM
AT Of course he is a hun. Unfortunately there are a few huns who post regularly on CQN. JHB the most obvious one.
*absolutely Garry they are so obvious tae with their kid on Celtic/Irish monikers, just do the old Dionne war wick and “scroll on by” else you give them the fuel they desire.
BTW when you spoke tae John/MacJay in Chandlers did he mention why he came hame, no too many come back fae Oz, Canada aye is its only about 5 ½ hours and under a grand away.
SCULLYBHOY on 4TH JULY 2021 11:10 AM
https://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/comment/england-invented-football/
Another interesting slant on it – history – eh?
*although that first Liverpool side had a few former Vale of Leven and Renton players in it their first goal scorer and captain, who they signed from Third Lanark, was born in Jamestown.
TT
All John said was that his marriage had broke up, and him and his son wanted to start a new life in Glasgow. His son is studying here.
He really looked a picture of health, and was in great form in Chandlers. As Auldheid, BMCUW, BRTH & CCB will attest to.
I am still in shock at the sad news.
MARSPAPA on 4TH JULY 2021 12:17 AM
TONTINE TIM on 3RD JULY 2021 11:25 PM
Just heading off to bed…..Stayed at the Queen of the Loch Hotel.
*never been there as its pretty new but aware of it as its on the Old Luss Road my route tae Duck Bay Marina at one time, I do have family who dine there and rate it.
Boat trip was the hour long one (there is a 2 hour long one)
*possibly Sweeney’s down at Balloch Bridge, been there for years, the current family’s great grampa was working as a boat boy at a dock in Donegal when one of the managers of the Print and Dye work in the Vale of Leven invited him over tae work for him there and that’s how him and many of the Irish landed in the Vale. Good Tims tae boot.
Milaroccy Bay is five minutes by Balmaha.
*aye on the road tae Rowardennan and Ben Lomond.
The last night got a carry out supper from The Blue Lagoon Chippy.
*that’s newly opened it used tae be Palombos and before that Malloys, Pepis at the station is more rated for anyone planning tae go down tae Balloch.
Weather was fantastic.
*nae better place tae be if you get the weather, summer used tae be a Tuesday morning in May, slept in for it one year lol
Ps… In 1973/4 my mum was offered a choice of a new home in 2 new schemes she chose a semi-detached house in Hamilton the other was a brand new flat in ……….. Bonhill.
*Its known by locals as “up the hill”, it was originally planned for over spill and key workers. I worked up there in Redburn subbing tae Wimpey in 1972/73, across the road was Pappert where our first goal scorer was born.
“You can celebrate it without restraint, you can condemn it without restraint, or you can accept that it happened and try to understand why it happened.”
Perhaps a reasonable template for matters Celtic ( and otherwise ) on CQN.
TONTINE TIM-I had stayed at the same hotel the weekend before. I think you’re correct on the boat trip.We sat in the beer garden across from it,the Tullie Inn on the Saturday
DD-you just never know the day mate.
Glad to hear you and Ryan are doing well.
I hear there’s a hoot a brewing 🍻
TONTINE TIM
yip , Sweeneys are the tour operator for the cruises …i think the name of the boat was the Atlantis .
Ps …. you dont own the hotel in Greenock per chance …
Hot Smoked on 4th July 2021 6:42 pm
“You can celebrate it without restraint, you can condemn it without restraint, or you can accept that it happened and try to understand why it happened.”
Perhaps a reasonable template for matters Celtic ( and otherwise ) on CQN.
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Sadly, the impact of the Empire is still causing huge suffering and death in various countries around the world. Much as I am passionate about Celtic – it is only a game.
TONTINE TIM
It was the Astina we took the boat trip on .
The flat we were offered in Bonhill was amazing to me and my we brother…..glass entrance screen to a beautiful clean (no graffiti) close . flat with a terrific view and we were told we could make as much noise as the floors were concrete and the neighbours below wouldn’t hear a thing .
It was a slightly easier trip for my dads work from Hamilton to ‘ John Inshaws’ at Shettlestoun .
MARSPAPA-you will always be the Glasgow over spill 😉
By the way lads anyone know what age Macjay was
Delaneys Dunky on 4th July 2021 6:34PM
Clydebank is a poor, hard town for us all here.
It speaks volumes to me that Macjay1, a confirmed Tory to his bones knowing the sands were running down in his own hourglass, knew he and his son could relax for an afternoon, on the swally, in the company of local Celts and tourists. I trust you didn’t con the tourists into buying every round.
A local session I would have enjoyed joining.
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Considered opinion tends to the view the internet generally, social media interaction particularly, is too black & white. No grey is deemed acceptable any more.
Ineos Grenadiers rode up the last mountain today like huns. Providing a coal bag carry to the yellow jersey worn by an opposing team has to be the most despicable action imaginable. Hang your head in shame Brailsford.
FAIRHILL BHOY on 4TH JULY 2021 7:26 PM
MARSPAPA-you will always be the Glasgow over spill
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aye, never accepted anywhere 😥
https://youtu.be/-1X1THe0u7c
FB
Thanks mate. Just finished my 10 days self isolation. Ryan says having Covid has been like a mild flu with upset stomach.
I have had 3 negative tests in last 10 days.
All good 👍
Not renewing your season ticket due to the way you were treated last season by our board and the performance of the team/manager does not make you a hun or less of a supporter. Hierarchy CQN….
Sportske have tonight reported Hadjuk Split left Mario Vuskovic out of the starting XI against Greek opposition in a friendly on Sunday because the defender is ‘preparing for the transfer to Celtic’.
Sorry for the cut and paste, but I hope that it is true.
MARSPAPA-steak n kidney 😉
DD- 👍
Just read below from the DR , aye so tough at negotiating that no one buys him 😂
As Lille discovered last summer Ross Wilson and company can be tough negotiators and won’t settle for a penny less than what their players are worth.
BACK TO BASICS – GLASS HALF FULL on 4TH JULY 2021 5:12 PM
Afternoon all.
Good evening. Reading back through Swiss Rambles tweets on cL distributions it looks like there is no overall increase in distributions to teams in the CL and a 10% decrease to the Europa. Not a substantial change given the amounts previously paid from Europa participation.
A quick look at the way the cash is distributed suggests that a single entrant from Scotland with a reasonable/realistic showing in the groups – a win and 2 draws makes less than £20m. That doesn’t include any ticket money, uplift in merchandise sales, possible contracted bonuses from sponsors etc, but also doesn’t include associated costs like manager and player bonuses and the costs of playing 3 home and 3 away games.
Very rough guesses based on 3 wins, a draw and a second place in Europa brings in around £6m in prize money. A difference of 13m approx. lower ticket sales but lower associated costs.
So the big uplift from CL participation – 30m often quoted, but as much as 40m suggested by some is a long way out.
If, as seems likely, we sell over 50k season tickets, missing out on the CL will not cause us serious financial distress. No house of cards, thanks to the support stepping up again. Bad luck Dave.
Going by the debts they outlined in their recent prospectus, their football debts, the money they owe to HMRC that’s been deferred due to covid, and the last few years accounts which have showed horrendous losses the same can’t be said for the currant buns.
Onil
True but renewing doesn’t make you a mug either.
It’s a personal choice.
Bedtime then
GuyFawkes
Since I was the host in Chandlers, I bought the first round for my guests. The tourists and BRTH, the only Bankie present.
I have lurked and posted on CQN for a long, long time but not as RD – Moniker change made a while ago as someone now posts with a moniker too close to my original.
The reason I have not posted on this site for so long is due to many of the mean spirited posts I see on my occasional “lurks” – Sid 1888 at 12.20 being a prime example.
In see regular appalling attacks on people I regard as Celtic heroes – including our host – from CQN “regulars’ so in a moment of weakness I responded today and the feedback was exactly what I expected.
Typically AT’s first reaction is – am I a hun?
DD reckons everyone is a Hun.
I’m not a Hun.
I could easily establish my Celtic credentials and indeed there are people posting today (and many more) who could verify this but I will resist the temptation as I can’t be arsed and I don’t need to justify myself to people who I do not believe are representative of mainstream Celtic supporters anyway.
BTW Sid 1888 wanted also to boycott STs but establishes his credentials today by telling us he is a ST holder.
Some of you guys need to get out more!
Hasta luego!
Looking forward to the new era. I expect nothing regarding Europe this Season as it is way too short a time period,
A mega jam&spoon for me, was this Tune.
I just watched the Age of Ange on the Tube this afternoon.
I hope it clicks quickly but we need to give the man Time and Dominic needs to back the guy with whatever he wants with regards to the staff he is working with and the best possible players we can get to the Club.
I think this guy, as Kojo would say, is a Brammer!!!
Ron dip-welcome.Are you a hun ?😜
Now here’s a tune
https://youtu.be/GUfHe4TdNIY
Happy 4th of July
HH
Delighted that Billy Gilmours mother was pig sick at him leaving her beloved team,never to return,as evidenced.
Not as delighted that she probably missed a right good soaking today fouling up the streets of Glasgow,with her brethren.
Some horrific pics of them in the Record.Good grief,are they females ?
Delaneys Dunky on 4th July 2021 8:39PM
All good, manners maketh the man.
With being scheme neighbour to Tiger, my first query to BRTH would have been, did you get a co-composer credit for The Untied Shoelaces Show theme tune back in the day? (saw a video recently of The Revillos singing to 5 year olds from it).
Although Lenny is having a go at Leigh in public, I reckon Lenny is trying to still get the best out of Leigh for Celtic.
I have it on very good authority that Billy Gilmour had 2 coaches in Ardrossan who are right good Tims.
Lenny is a Celtic Legend.
Leigh is a Legend as well, they worked together and if anyone knows how to push Leighs buttons it is Neil. Now if they were texting saying lets say this and that… I’d be worried.
Lenny is firing up Leigh as best he can from the outside.
Leigh Griffiths on it, is an asset.
BelmontBrian
Classic mate👍
DREW1967 on 4TH JULY 2021 9:37 PM
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Cheers
HH
Ron Dip
I only call huns, huns.
You really are a cracker. Liar.