Tomorrow’s SPL meeting is something of a formality, albeit as dramatic as a formality can be. The main scheduled action of the week is underway at Hampden right now. We hear that after issuing threats to exclude 20 SFL clubs from future access to the top two divisions in Scottish football, SPL and SFA chief executives, Neil Doncaster and Stewart Regan, will face irate SFL chairmen.
In mitigation of the criticism coming his way, Mr Doncaster is offering your money, in perpetuity, to buy votes to allow Sevco to gain direct access to the First Division. If passed, they would probably enter the SPL next season, close to debt free, while Celtic carry peak debt of around £35m after playing by the rules and not qualifying for Champions League football during the last three seasons.
In short, if Mr Doncaster manages to persuade the SFL chairmen to back his plan, Sevco will become by far the strongest team in the SPL a year from now.
The plan has been rejected as wholly unacceptable by an impressive list of clubs with no association whatsoever with Celtic, many of whom exist hand-to-mouth and whose vote against will cost them considerable income.
Doncaster’s part in creating this shambles cannot be underestimated. He perpetuated the myth that “Rangers” should and would be in next season’s SPL, allowing people to invest in an undeliverable strategy, including Charles Green.
Mr Doncaster is an employee of the company Celtic are an equal-twelfth shareholder in. His actions are wholly incompatible with sporting meritocracy. As Celtic shareholders we call for his resignation and, if this is not forthcoming, demand he faces a confidence vote.
“Without fear or favour” was the promise from Stewart Regan when he told us he would apply the rules evenly as the Rangers saga unfolded. In advocating rules are torn up and replaced his words are laughable.
His assertion that the actions of Campbell Ogilvie over Rangers EBTs had been investigated and that Ogilvie was found to be without blame was misleading. It is our assertion that the actions of Mr Ogilvie were not investigated at all and that Mr Regan spoke to protect his ally, who remains in position despite being “heavily conflicted” according to Mr Regan, and the SFA being in desperate need of a strong and active president.
Mr Regan is now wholly compromised and must resign or also face a vote of confidence. Two years ago he joined a dysfunctional organisation. He had a great opportunity to make a name for himself as a successful troubleshooter. Instead he’s made matters worse!
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timbhoy in spain
my concern is they delay the start of the season to accomodate them.
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 4 July, 2012 at 10:44
Cheers
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 10:48 said:
67Heaven ..The Board are playing this ” Spot on..”
Yes they are.
Speak softly and carry a big stick.
We`re the stick.
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2010 Never Again
<:-))
If newhuns get into the SFL1 I’m going to boycott Knowsley Safari Park.
What’s so funny ’bout love peace and understanding?
hen1rik on 4 July, 2012 at 10:54 said:
Was that a question or a statement?
Philvis
I know the guy and I don’t just mean from posts on here, I got him and his bhoy tickets for Motherwell away towards the end of the season. I also know his brother.
This isn’t like you, my friend in Celtic, and you’re better than simply tossing around personal insults without due considerarion to facts and individual’s feelings.
Doncaster told Sky Sports News ahead of the meeting: “There may be a decision, there may not be.
“There was a good meeting yesterday with the Scottish Football League, in which the possibility of Rangers going into the second tier of Scottish football was discussed.
“And ultimately, if that option remains in play, that may be a reason to defer the vote today.”
Doncaster added: “It’s important clubs don’t close off any options.
“They have got the best interests of their own clubs to think about and also the best interests of the game as a whole.”
This guy is a stain on the floor of a cheap hotel room.
Have you noticed that, when all this reaches a critical stage, some Fholks on CQN get rather excited ………..SPL vote today ………..LOL
The vote will take place today………….ALL credibility will have been lost if they don’t have this vote today ……….and, if not, then it will be tht final, irrefutable, evidence that the whole system is corrupt and fecked….
Statement from Partick Thistle
Wednesday 4th July 2012
Arguably the most important meeting in the 122 year history of the Scottish Football League took place yesterday and was attended by a member of the PTFC Board.
As a Club we felt that it was important that we entered this meeting with an open mind, taking full cognisance of all the facts, the opinion of our fans and free from prejudice and speculation.
Unquestionably there are major financial consequences, for all Clubs in Scotland, should a newco Rangers club not take a place in next season’s SPL and there has been a proposal put in front of the SFL clubs that would allow Rangers direct entry into SFL1, contrary to the current league rules. On its own this proposal is clearly unacceptable, on a number of levels, and is something the Board of PTFC are not prepared to support.
A more fundamental review of the entire Scottish football league(s) setup is clearly required. However, we feel that it is not the responsibility for making a decision, that will have huge ramifications throughout the game in this country, to fall on any individual member, or collection of clubs of the Scottish Football League. This is not a problem of the SFL’s making and as a result it is not a decision which can be taken in isolation of the SPL clubs.
It is the opinion of Partick Thistle that the Scottish Football Association, the game’s governing body in Scotland, should now take ownership of this unprecedented situation.
Our view, shared by the majority of supporters, is that a radical overhaul of our game is required. We are more than happy to be involved in any such process, however feel that the driving force for change has to be our National Association.
Meantime we thank the Thistle supporters for their continued support and their many helpful and insightful observations in recent weeks. No matter what happens over the course of the next few weeks we would ask you to continue to support our Club through these difficult and challenging times.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 10:55 said
Fancy a schooner? :-)
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!..Truth and Justice HAS prevailed on 4 July, 2012 at 10:58
It’s like watching the fans who are watching a penalty about to be taken.
roy croppie on 4 July, 2012 at 10:55 said:
timbhoy in spain
my concern is they delay the start of the season to accomodate them.
With this mob that´s an entirely possible scenario.
There´s no depth they wont plummet to.
New particle toasted
miki67 on 4 July, 2012 at 10:49 said:
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 10:47 said:
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One of the best posts ever re. this ‘situation’.
HH!
share on F’book or Twitter
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2010 Never Again
Indeed! The Battered Bunnet has nailed them.
Wee Fergus himself couldn’t have done any better…hmm?
Ole PFAyr helps keep the streets of SHangri-La safe at night for honest citizens, which on balance is a good thing.
jock steins celtic
cheers
And we still haven’t had the main villan on the stage yet.
Like Brando in Apocalypse Now the main act, D Murray, will be in the wings until the final reel.
What time is the meeting at today ?
LINK TO IT
http://www.ptfc.co.uk/news/2012-2013/july_2012/statement_from_partick_thistle
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 10:59 said:
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 10:55 said
Fancy a schooner? :-)
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2010 Never Again
My shout my friend
Fin75 on 4 July, 2012 at 10:56 said:
hen1rik on 4 July, 2012 at 10:54 said:
Was that a question or a statement?
share on F’book or Twitter
Your the expert.
♫ Hector Avocado ♫ ♪ on 4 July, 2012 at 10:47 said:
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Yer on the outside looking in.
Enjoy the view.
Good statement from Particle Thistle:)
The national association should be able to lead the way but this IS the SFA we’re talking about….
HH
From BBC:
“Gillingham are ordered to leave their training ground after failing to pay bills.
Medway Council claim the League Two side owe more than £34,000 in unpaid utility bills and charges for using Beechings Cross.
Alan Jarratt, deputy leader of Medway Council, said: “The money owed is not a small figure, and it is public money provided by the taxpayer.””
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Would that paying bills and taxes by one Scottish team in particular woudl be treated in the same way as any other business…. Geez, I think RFCIL owed more than that to the photocopier company… We live in a different world, not a different country.
hen1rik on 4 July, 2012 at 11:01
Was that a “Your” or a “You are” or a “You’re”?
Like I previously stated I am not expert……perhaps you didn’t notice.
How very dare you miss one of my posts directed to you…..is it personal or sumfing?
Who does Neil Doncaster represent? The SPL. As such why is he commenting on any possible move for any new club into the SFL.
He states:
“The three viable options are effectively: bringing “newco” Rangers back into the SPL with a range of appropriate sanctions; putting Rangers into the second tier of Scottish football or Rangers going into the bottom of the pyramid into Division Three,”
For him as spokesman for the SPL, the only thing he should be concerned with is if they are permitted to purchase the share from Rangers to be admitted (note the language, it is admitted, not re-admitted!!!) to the SPL. Any other option is none of his concern.
As for the third option, well surely the option should be that a new club applies for membership of the SFL along with any other interested parties and that a decision is taken consistent with previous applications to accept ICT, Ross County, Elgin City, Peterhead, Gretna and Annan Athletic into the league. Rules should not be changed to accommodate any new entity.
“The third option, I was keen to stress yesterday, would inflict massive damage on the whole of the game in Scotland; and effectively punish 41 innocent clubs for the misdeeds of one.”
or in other words, any of these options would provide an advantage to one club over 41 innocent clubs. Again however, it is no concern of his what happens to non-SPL clubs and he should be aware of what his jurisdiction is and told politely to butt out of others affairs.
Mort
Our Board has played this very smart. Say nothing. The alternative would unify and galvanise them. Their disunity is their greatest weakness and risk. As for the SPL, what a disgusting, craven shower of shysters. Particularly Doncaster, who is a truly shameless crone. The logic of their machinations is that there’s one rule for them and another for everyone else. The cover for decades of preferential treatment has been blown and it’s now out in the open. Rangers are the establishment club and Scottish football is simply a vehicle for upholding Rangers’ superiority. We all just exist to serve them. If the fix for SPL or SFL 1 comes through I think we should boycott all of the responsible clubs. We should also look for an escape, any escape. I’d rather we played in the League of Ireland than continue in this dung heap.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on 4 July, 2012 at 11:01 said:
State of Origin about to start here.
Lots of shouting going on.
Life`s good.
Good to be a Tim or what.
DonsTalk @DonsTalk
Officials @AberdeenFC tell DonsTalk “Rest assured we are totally opposed to any ‘deferment’ and our stance remains the same.” #notonewco
Doncaster is dic(k)tating this Zimbabwe Election here,i.e keep voting folks til you get it right.
j77 on 4 July, 2012 at 11:00 said:
New particle toasted
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Aye….it’s The Bigg Hoose Son…
…ah’ll get ma straitjacket…
:-)
@marcmcardle1: Celtic Family, please do me a favour – RT this as far and as wide as possible! This has been said by Sky for weeks. http://t.co/NocyLul5
Nice one from Phil on twitter.
“Will the SPL seance be able to contact Rangers?”
Lol
Weefra HH
Fin75 on 4 July, 2012 at 11:04 said:
C’mon Uri give us your oops you’re predictions what will i score at golf today ?
greenjedi @10 34
” False advertising ,surely ? ”
Not necessarily .
First difficulty would relate to proving that the words of a club spokesperson could reasonably be assumed to be an act of advertising.
Second difficulty would relate to the consumer being able to prove that he /she bought the season ticket purely on the basis that event y was contractually obligated.
Mort – Absolutely right sir – Doncaster should mind his own business and get on with his responsibilities by listening to the already stated intention of 8 clubs in denying a newco entry to the SPL. The SFL can then get on and take whatever decision they see fit.
Hen1rik
You mean the weather held up? :))
Weefra HH
Mad Irish hun on Talksport, just disnae get it